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singular_me
11th December 2016, 06:05 PM
one thing is certain: no monetary system can deal with FREE energy as there is no profits to make from it. And the same with any other harmless discoveries.
its a TED video, I am not fast to promote them unless they are clear and concise. If this is true, then again, the adage that truth can be explained simply is more than ever accurate
the real purpose of life is to Create
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghhgUmGBjX8
singular_me
11th December 2016, 07:01 PM
Morin: there is a lot of garbage out there
without vibrations, aka resonances, life cannot be
bible: in the beginning was the Word
for how long will humanity continue to resist the merging of science and spirituality?
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Gerard Morin: Understanding what Resonance is and what it can do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uwqnN596VM
madfranks
11th December 2016, 07:07 PM
If, and I do mean if, free energy is real and available to all, then yes it will become like the sand on the seashore or the pine needles littering the mountainside, and nobody will need to work to provide it, hence it will not be monetized. However, if "free energy" still requires antennas, wires, or other methods by which to transport it, then people will provide it, for a fee.
singular_me
11th December 2016, 07:13 PM
still, it is the end of profit$. that is exactly why free energy will never see the day (there is way too little profits to make), as soon as one wishes to put a price tag on it, even minimal, then the whole concept falls apart or worse, put in a drawer forever
the game is not money but control and money is a mean to achieve the latter
If, and I do mean if, free energy is real and available to all, then yes it will become like the sand on the seashore or the pine needles littering the mountainside, and nobody will need to work to provide it, hence it will not be monetized. However, if "free energy" still requires antennas, wires, or other methods by which to transport it, then people will provide it, for a fee.
crimethink
11th December 2016, 10:17 PM
If, and I do mean if, free energy is real and available to all, then yes it will become like the sand on the seashore or the pine needles littering the mountainside, and nobody will need to work to provide it, hence it will not be monetized. However, if "free energy" still requires antennas, wires, or other methods by which to transport it, then people will provide it, for a fee.
The TED presentation spoke of nanotech solar panels (and storage units) with no grid needed. Your windows and/or roof are the source, with highly-advanced batteries for when it's dark.
The only thing to cost would be the initial systems, and replacements.
But, yes, the sinful human nature will still seek to profitize something about it.
singular_me
12th December 2016, 05:23 AM
it is impossible to profit from free energy. sure the structure and technology to make it available has costs attached but then what? investors expect return and if told that it will take a lifetime or more to get their investment back, nobody will invest in it. Or only billionaires like bill gates but then their intentions are not peaceful, their mentality have not changed for millennia long.
as usual all discoveries have a dark and bright side.if solar nanocells are not programed to enter any living organism to start with, strictly assigned functions, risks are minimalistic. The problem is that we cannot trust scientists in this environment.
here in this video, that I am currently enjoying, about the mysteries of water, at 7:50mins, the scientist make a discovery using nanogold particles to kill cancer cells successfully. Because Gold and silver have medical properties, speculation is anti-humanity.
look at the living geometry on the table ;D
The Mystery of Water - What we know is a drop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN3PBFxV3Xw
Ares
12th December 2016, 05:37 AM
it is impossible to profit from free energy. sure the structure and technology to make it available has costs attached but then what? investors expect return and if told that it will take a lifetime or more to get their investment back, nobody will invest in it. Or only billionaires like bill gates but then their intentions are not peaceful, their mentality have not changed for millennia long.
Ummm no it is isn't. Like Madfranks just said if it requires a device to collect, store, or transport said "free energy" it will require someone with knowledge, skill, and craftsmanship to produce the device.
Nothing in this plane of existence is "Free" that includes energy. Sunlight is not "free" it takes the Sun billions of tons of hydrogen to produce that energy every second. It takes specialized solar cells to collect that energy and we're no where near the efficiency that is required to even come close to calling it "Free Energy."
You ever come across real free energy, feel free to pass it along.
singular_me
12th December 2016, 05:48 AM
yes everything can be free IF working out of passion. Doing what ones **loves**.
Now sure, discoveries have all their costs attached and called risks, but when the bankruptcy factor is removed from equation, that's a huge existential improvement.
money makes too many people hate their job, hunting money is no fun for 85% of people because money requires many useless eaters at the bottom of the pyramid. Money is causing the existence of this pyramid.
I simply beg to differ. Value being absolutely subjective, speculating on a God's given gift is a scourge.
Ummm no it is isn't. Like Madfranks just said if it requires a device to collect, store, or transport said "free energy" it will require someone with knowledge, skill, and craftsmanship to produce the device.
Nothing in this plane of existence is "Free" that includes energy. Sunlight is not "free" it takes the Sun billions of tons of hydrogen to produce that energy every second. It takes specialized solar cells to collect that energy and we're no where near the efficiency that is required to even come close to calling it "Free Energy."
You ever come across real free energy, feel free to pass it along.
Ares
12th December 2016, 06:07 AM
yes everything can be free IF working out of passion. Doing what ones **loves**.
What a complete load of bullshit. Lady you live in a delusion. There isn't any future on this planet where you are going to have that. How do you prohibit someones personal ambition to do or be more? What you advocate for is Communism, everyone working for the good of the whole. With almost 100 years of trial each and every experiment in it has lead to hundreds of millions of death, starvation, suffering and a perversion of this existence.
Now sure, discoveries have all their costs attached and called risks, but when the bankruptcy factor is removed from equation, that's a huge existential improvement.
Exactly how do you think you get those discoveries if someone isn't willing to take the risk needed to achieve them? Bankruptcy is part of it.
money makes too many people hate their job, hunting money is no fun for 85% of people because money requires many useless eaters at the bottom of the pyramid. Money is causing the existence of this pyramid.
Maybe you hate your job, but I truly enjoy mine. Money is a benefit, and is not why I am where I am. Whether I was here at my current job, or somewhere else that doesn't pay as well I would still be doing something in the Information Technology field. With all of your delusions, you have yet to answer even a simple question of why anyone with land, resources, and knowledge would provide for others out of "passion". Like I keep telling you, it's never going to happen. The only foreseeable way is mankind invents a machine that can materialize your food from the atomic level, even then the first buyers will pay a fortune because it will require years of research, trial and error and safety protocols to ensure that it creates food that is safe to eat.
It's not a bad dream to want to wish for that kind of existence, but lady you need to realize we are no where near that level of technological advancement. Nor is anyone willing to give up financial gain for their knowledge, skill, and ambition to work for society for "free".
I simply beg to differ. Value being absolutely subjective, speculating on a God's given gift is a scourge.
Beg all that you would like, just don't expect the rest of humanity to follow you into your delusions. Value is NOT subjective. Do you even produce anything? Get a plot of land, grow all the vegetables you can think of spend months cultivating, watering, tending and weeding them. At the end of the harvest just give it all away. Then tell me value is subjective. Anyone who says that has never produced anything in their god forsaken life.
madfranks
12th December 2016, 09:02 AM
yes everything can be free IF working out of passion. Doing what ones **loves**.
Once, a sewer line broke in the crawlspace under a building I was working on. It was a fairly large building with hundreds of occupants daily. The crawlspace had been filling with sewage for weeks, because this particular section of crawlspace was inaccessible so nobody could find out where the leak was. We literally had to cut a hole in the floor to open it up. We fixed the leak but all that sewage needed to be cleaned up. Because access was through a hole in the floor, the clean up crew had to muck out the crawlspace a bucket at a time. They spent over a week mucking out the sewage in tyvek suits and respirators, taking frequent breaks because you'd choke to death on the stench.
So, singular, in a system where these folks aren't getting paid for that work, how will you find someone who's so passionate about cleaning sewage out of a crawlspace that they'd do it for free?
Neuro
12th December 2016, 01:03 PM
The thing is that people don't really appreciate you for giving your service away for free or very little. They imediatelly in their minds starts downgrade what you offer, until in their minds is worth what they payed for it. I believe you owe it to yourself and your customer to make sure that in every transaction there is a FAIR EXCHANGE. What that means is of course negotiable from case to case.
Unfortunately over the last decades the influence of the nanny state has skewed many minds towards the "Shit for free"-mentality. Expecting to get fed and have there whims forfilled for nothing in return, only because they are valuable "human beings". And then naturally with that delusion comes the delusion that others should provide their work for free, for betterment of mankind, as long as they are fed and have some whims fulfilled by the state.
There is no sense of value among these people.
And no-one *loves** cleaning out sewage, most would in fact prefer to pay well for it to be cleaned out, instead of living in the stench or doing it yourself. That is just the reality!
singular_me
12th December 2016, 01:40 PM
whatever you think guys, go convince investors that they will get back their investment after their death, sense of value, but value is subjective and we can see this with automation taking over... best of luck resolving that, because it is exactly why people will ALWAYS find a way to go into debts. The bankers' shabby secret, as usual the top uses the inertia of the bottom feeders (useless eaters) to propel itself. The middle class has been a fiction for 5000 years.
so nothing will change until people learn to do what they LOVE doing. it has NOTHING to do with socialism, if you dont grasp that, then we'll never have free energy. thats precisely why the depopulation agenda is in place. Beside the top 1%, who is going to get rich now? Where is the $$ incentive in all that, when the plan is to kill off 50-80% of population???
No monetary system can match the generosity of Nature. And that is an immutable law. Going against it will forever proven self-defeating. Nobody will profit from Her. Let alone the cosmos. ;D
free market theory is a fantasy. LOVE doing what you do and it benefits the greater good instead.
money make ppl short sighted, look at the so called invention of plastic, today we dump 275 million metric tons of it in the oceans yearly... the US wastes 160BN worth of food yearly and I could go on and on (i am making a doc about it) ... thanks to the bottom feeders... WHERE ARE THE FREAKIN' PROFITS ???
that is why we cannot take down the NWO, because we do not change the premises. Everything is corrupted and inverted because of that. Beside the top 1% in the know and abusing this inertia, and because the problem just grows exponentially while remaining unaddressed, people only harm themselves trying to do good
when money is out of the equation and people follow their passions, creative chaos takes over. as long as people chase money (most doing what they hate) destructive chaos will continue.
the universe was created out of Love and we must mirror that... what jesus meant.
madfranks
12th December 2016, 02:10 PM
You didn't answer my question. I gave you a real world example of a job that nobody wants to do, and asked you who would do it out of "passion" or "love" of work, and you dodged it.
Ares
12th December 2016, 02:23 PM
whatever you think guys, go convince investors that they will get back their investment after their death, sense of value, but value is subjective and we can see this with automation taking over... best of luck resolving that, because it is exactly why people will ALWAYS find a way to go into debts. The bankers' shabby secret, as usual the top uses the inertia of the bottom feeders (useless eaters) to propel itself. The middle class has been a fiction for 5000 years.
No, bankers are exploiting the reality which you seem to not be able to contemplate or even touch upon, that it doesn't matter what someone LOVES doing, they aren't going to do it for free. Machines can do a lot of things, but who fixes the machines? Even machines can't do things for free as they require energy. Solid state batteries have a price, higher density energy cells have a price. Where the hell do you come up with this garbage and do you honestly believe that people are just going to work for free?
so nothing will change until people learn to do what they LOVE doing. it has NOTHING to do with socialism, if you dont grasp that, then we'll never have free energy. thats precisely why the depopulation agenda is in place. Beside the top 1%, who is going to get rich now? Where is the $$ incentive in all that, when the plan is to kill off 50-80% of population???
Straight up BULLSHIT Nothing is going to change until people can either be self sufficient or live within their means. Or get a decentralized resource based currency. What you are preaching is ABSOLUTELY COMMUNISM. Doing what one loves for the betterment of the whole. Individualism, self determination and ambition be DAMNED in your utopia. Your failure to even recognize that is really not mine or anyone else's problem but YOURS.
No monetary system can match the generosity of Nature. And that is an immutable law. Going against it will forever proven self-defeating. Nobody will profit from Her. Let alone the cosmos. ;D
:rolleyes: Tell that to the people who have no idea how to grow food that mother earth will provide for their needs if they can just eek out sustenance for 3-4 months while their food grows. Lets not forget that they'll have to contribute to their neighbors because it's good for society. :rolleyes:
free market theory is a fantasy. LOVE doing what you do and it benefits the greater good.
No what you are preaching and haven't even provided a SIMPLE explanation of how this can be accomplished is pure fucking fantasy. You live in a dream world of your own making. It only exist in your head. You can't manifest a single aspect of this dream or even tell anyone outside of your mind how this would work other than someone will "LOVE" doing it. Hell I absolutely love what I do, but there isn't a snowballs chance in hell I'd do it for free.
money make ppl short sighted, look at the so called invention of plastic, today we dump 275 million metric tons of it in the oceans yearly... the US wastes 160BN worth of food yearly and I could go on and on, ... thanks to the bottom feeders... WHERE ARE THE PROFITS ???
Says the bottom feeder who hasn't produced a single thing in her life, let alone a single answer to any of the questions that have been posed.
that is why we cannot take down the NWO because we do not change the premises. Everything is corrupted and inverted because of that. Beside the top 1% in the know and abusing this inertia, people only harm themselves trying to do good because the problem just grows exponentially and remains unaddressed.
No it's idiotic drivel that has been preached by people like you. Hippie communes failed lady. The reason they failed is because of individuality. If human beings and human society were of a collective mind then your utopia could exist. But your world view can't account for some shit bag who wants to be lazy and takes more than they provide to society. Once you have more takers than producers society collapses. It doesn't matter if it's Free market, socialism, communism etc. You have to have everyone working for the betterment of the whole. In your collectivist world view, what do you do with the physically and mentally handicapped? Do you just feed them into a wood chipper feet first to provide nutrients for the world garden, or do you provide for their well being even though they cannot provide for society? How does the world provide for people such as those? How about the blacks in Africa who have been taught to garden for the past 40 years but stop doing it once the white men leave? How does your fantasy account for laziness and unaccountability?
Free market isn't perfect, but it sure beats the hell out of the fantasy bullshit you're preaching. At least those who do not produce starve and cannot provide offspring to continue sucking society dry.
when money is out of the equation and people follow their passions, creative chaos takes over. as long as people chase money (most doing what they hate) destructive chaos will continue.
TOTAL FUCKING BULLSHIT Money is an object, it's immaterial and is an exchange for providing a value, skill, knowledge or product. You're failure to even recognize that is why you live in a fucking dream world.
Ares
12th December 2016, 02:23 PM
You didn't answer my question. I gave you a real world example of a job that nobody wants to do, and asked you who would do it out of "passion" or "love" of work, and you dodged it.
She can't answer it. It's a total fantasy world she lives in.
singular_me
12th December 2016, 03:08 PM
madfranks, robots will end up doing this, not everything is bad with robotics and automation, as long as robots are A.I-cloud restricted. How many people love to work in plastic factories do you think?
Mark Passio How Collective Reality Is Constructed
if you think money is a piece of paper, you are under mind control
if you think that it is intrinsic, you are too under mind control
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQmGilXfv6M&t=471s
You didn't answer my question. I gave you a real world example of a job that nobody wants to do, and asked you who would do it out of "passion" or "love" of work, and you dodged it.
EE_
12th December 2016, 06:19 PM
She can't answer it. It's a total fantasy world she lives in.
She might be right a hundred years from now in a post apocalyptic world. Maybe she's just ahead of her time?
Ares
12th December 2016, 06:25 PM
She might be right a hundred years from now in a post apocalyptic world. Maybe she's just ahead of her time?
Nope, who is going to work for free? That's the question that has been asked and no answer ever provided. Like Madfranks example, who is going to clean up sewage because they "love" to do it?
EE_
12th December 2016, 06:35 PM
Nope, who is going to work for free? That's the question that has been asked and no answer ever provided. Like Madfranks example, who is going to clean up sewage because they "love" to do it?
Mike Rowe will
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JRvTIKXWDk
Ares
12th December 2016, 06:57 PM
Mike Rowe will
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JRvTIKXWDk
Ha!!!
He's being paid. ;)
Glass
12th December 2016, 08:05 PM
Tesla proved that electrical power can be transmitted through the atmosphere without wires. Radios and televisions, cell phones confirm this fact everyday.
The issue is control. The restriction of power distribution to a wired system creates control. Access can be controlled via connectivity and metering.
Don't have a connection? Can't get power.
Don''t settle your metering account (bill)? Dis-connected. See previous point.
I don't think power stations are "generating" power at all. I think they are merely sucking it up and compressing it down into the wired distribution system where access to it it can be controlled and metered.
Ares
12th December 2016, 08:13 PM
Tesla proved that electrical power can be transmitted through the atmosphere without wires. Radios and televisions, cell phones confirm this fact everyday.
The issue is control. The restriction of power distribution to a wired system creates control. Access can be controlled via connectivity and metering.
Don't have a connection? Can't get power.
Don''t settle your metering account (bill)? Dis-connected. See previous point.
I don't think power stations are "generating" power at all. I think they are merely sucking it up and compressing it down into the wired distribution system where access to it it can be controlled and metered.
I take it you've never taken a tour of a power generating facility? I've been in coal, and nuclear power plants. The turbines they use are absolutely massive for power generation. The power substations are step down / step up sub stations depending on where they are at in distance from the generating facility.
There is no such thing as free energy it has to come from somewhere. Energy is never created nor destroyed, conservation of energy 101.
crimethink
12th December 2016, 08:18 PM
I don't think power stations are "generating" power at all. I think they are merely sucking it up and compressing it down into the wired distribution system where access to it it can be controlled and metered.
If this is true, why don't you make your own?
Glass
12th December 2016, 08:30 PM
If this is true, why don't you make your own?
because I live in a box of controlled information and knowledge. Just take a step back and contemplate it for a moment.
Ares says what the rule is but doesn't consider what the rule might mean. "Energy is never created nor destroyed". This is why I think the term "generating electricity" is misleading. I don't think they generate electricity. Maybe it's a current differential that they are generating to enable the compression and forcing of electricity down into the containment and measurement/metering system. We would call that flow or potential.
cheka.
12th December 2016, 08:39 PM
I don't think power stations are "generating" power at all. I think they are merely sucking it up and compressing it down into the wired distribution system where access to it it can be controlled and metered.
that's the basics. convert one energy to another, no magic
singular_me
12th December 2016, 08:47 PM
any concepts requiring to burn whatever fuel are killing earth (and us by same token), now think of all the profits it made, that some became filthy rich... yeah absolutely cynical. When lots of profits are involved investors flock in. Medical cannabis penny stocks have made many happy but now the whole scheme has strengthened the surveillance state and big players like bill gates are taking over. Profits ??? I could go on and on...
Not to mention: Amazing earthquake video animation shows total stupidity of building nuclear power plants near known fault lines
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSeO_tHNn-I
Ever heard of solo-luminescence, sound creating light and thus heat? Yes a structure is needed to support any concept, but if after that the costs are absolutely minimalistic, again, good luck finding investors, unless one is willing to cheat the consumers and resort to obsolescence.
Nature is the only model to follow, and this means very little profits, or close to none at all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFl76cGkXXI
now this said, the OP presentation seems very credible but lets bet that the military is more interested in.
JUST IN CASE YOU MISSED IT:
There’s nothing they need, a world-consuming epidemic of collective madness
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?93938-The-Gift-Of-Death-(There%92s-nothing-they-need)
Ares
13th December 2016, 06:02 AM
because I live in a box of controlled information and knowledge. Just take a step back and contemplate it for a moment.
Ares says what the rule is but doesn't consider what the rule might mean. "Energy is never created nor destroyed". This is why I think the term "generating electricity" is misleading. I don't think they generate electricity. Maybe it's a current differential that they are generating to enable the compression and forcing of electricity down into the containment and measurement/metering system. We would call that flow or potential.
Even in school we were able to generate electricity with a small motor and some magnets. Granted it was only a few watts of power, but you have to consider the input. Spinning a crank by hand gets tiring so its obviously not sustainable that way. But I can tell you as soon as the crank stopped spinning the generator was no longer generating electricity. We were not doing any DC to AC conversion so it was a straight DC generator, put the tester probes on the positive negative nodes and flat line 0. Turn the crank and depending on speed would generate the electricity as expected. That type of power generation has been known since the late 19th century. None of this is new, granted we could be more creative in our ways to generate said electricity, but it still boils back down the basic laws of conservation of energy and thermodynamics. Converting one form of energy to another. The only question in the generating process is how efficient that process can be made.
monty
13th December 2016, 07:57 AM
because I live in a box of controlled information and knowledge. Just take a step back and contemplate it for a moment.
Ares says what the rule is but doesn't consider what the rule might mean. "Energy is never created nor destroyed". This is why I think the term "generating electricity" is misleading. I don't think they generate electricity. Maybe it's a current differential that they are generating to enable the compression and forcing of electricity down into the containment and measurement/metering system. We would call that flow or potential.
In more simple terms, mechanical energy, wind, heat, water pressure due to gravity or some other form of energy driving the generator/alternator is converted to electricty
Neuro
13th December 2016, 08:06 AM
that's the basics. convert one energy to another, no magic
Exactly. There is no free energy created anywhere. It is converted from mass (nuclear, solar), chemical (wood, coal, diesel), momentum/potential (wind/hydroelectric), and by generators it is converted to electricity, which then is transformed into
High voltage AC current, so that it can be transported over long distance with minimal loss to resistance in low resistance copper wire (sure it is possible to transport energy via radiation or magnetic induction in air, but with huge losses to the universe, metering the usage can probably be achieved, but it would be extremely expensive and ineffective, and probably be very unhealthy to life to have us surrounded by that radiation and magnetic fields). Then at the end user the high voltage is transformed down to 220-230 V or 110-115V for use in household appliances that creates light radiation, mechanical work, sound waves, heating/refrigeration.
Just got back from BOL, where I have a small solar panel, generating electricity to charge a motorcycle battery (chemical potential energy), which when dark powers the led lights in the house. In the forrest I went and picked up fallen branches and pieces of wood (chemical potential), which I feed the stove, that makes the house warm. I don't need to pay anything for this energy, but it isn't free, the solar panel and battery and wiring and LED lights required a $150 investment, and my work to install it. The stove costed money too probably around $300, and I payed my handyman to transport and install it, and I have to work to feed it with wood.
I do think you need to consider converting your own energy at your location, with sources found locally if you truly wants to be independent, but it will not be free, but if you are smart, using latest available technology, the investment can be small, and the work required to keep you comfortable and the cost to keep it running will not be too great.
Cebu_4_2
13th December 2016, 04:18 PM
Exactly. There is no free energy created anywhere.
Disagree... Lots of vids on this. Albeit not huge power with little antennas and wires but it holds possibilities on a larger scale.
http://youtu.be/YMO0qvzDMqE
https://youtu.be/YMO0qvzDMqE
WTF is up with V-bull? Y M O 0 qvzDMqE
Ares
13th December 2016, 05:25 PM
Disagree... Lots of vids on this. Albeit not huge power with little antennas and wires but it holds possibilities on a larger scale.
http://youtu.be/YMO0qvzDMqE
https://youtu.be/YMO0qvzDMqE
WTF is up with V-bull? Y M O 0 qvzDMqE
This is NOT free energy. This is a guy tapping into the Global Atmospheric Electrical Circuit which is powered by the Earth itself, or more generally the Sun which powers the Earth's climate.
Thunderstorms generate an electrical potential difference between the earth's surface and the ionosphere, mainly by means of lightning. Because of this, the ionosphere is positively charged relative to the earth. Consequently, there is always a small current transporting charged particles between the ionosphere and the surface. Since air is a good insulator, this current is carried by a small number of ions present in the atmosphere (generated mainly by cosmic rays in the upper atmosphere, and by radioactivity near the surface).
The voltages involved are significant. At sea level, the typical potential gradient in fair weather is 120 V/m. Nonetheless, since the conductivity of air is limited, the associated currents are also limited. A typical value is 1800 A over the entire planet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_atmospheric_electrical_circuit
Cebu_4_2
13th December 2016, 05:39 PM
This is NOT free energy. This is a guy tapping into the Global Atmospheric Electrical Circuit which is powered by the Earth itself, or more generally the Sun which powers the Earth's climate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_atmospheric_electrical_circuit
Dude, really, how can you say this is not free energy? Because we have to pay the sun or solar system? I will have to disagree with you on this because to me this is free energy as far as I can see. Small but substantial.
Ares
13th December 2016, 05:47 PM
Dude, really, how can you say this is not free energy? Because we have to pay the sun or solar system? I will have to disagree with you on this because to me this is free energy as far as I can see. Small but substantial.
In the literal since of the word, its not Free Energy. The energy is not being created, it's being harvested from the Atmosphere which was generated by Earth's climate. How is that Free Energy? Because you don't have to pay for it being generated?
Microsoft is using submersible Data centers (https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/microsoft-built-a-super-efficient-underwater-data-center) in the pacific and is powering them by the oceans current. That's not free energy either, the heat that is generated by the servers is returned back into the ocean.
Again not free energy, just harvesting energy that is already present.
Cebu_4_2
13th December 2016, 06:10 PM
In the literal since of the word, its not Free Energy. The energy is not being created, it's being harvested from the Atmosphere which was generated by Earth's climate. How is that Free Energy? Because you don't have to pay for it being generated?
Microsoft is using submersible Data centers (https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/microsoft-built-a-super-efficient-underwater-data-center) in the pacific and is powering them by the oceans current. That's not free energy either, the heat that is generated by the servers is returned back into the ocean.
Again not free energy, just harvesting energy that is already present.
All bullshit...
You are absolutely correct on your views... That sucks for me.
It's still "free" energy tho. Kinda like wind or ocean.
Will it stop becuase you refuse to use it?
Ares
13th December 2016, 06:20 PM
All bullshit...
You are absolutely correct on your views... That sucks for me.
It's still "free" energy tho. Kinda like wind or ocean.
Will it stop becuase you refuse to use it?
Nope not free, ;) just more efficient means to acquire it. Which we are advancing technologically being able to do. It takes time.
I'm still waiting for Thorium Molten Salt Reactors to be created, they are extremely efficient and not an environmental hazard as it produces nuclear waste that is rendered safe by radioactive decay in about 30 years, compared to 300+ years for standard nuclear waste.
cheka.
13th December 2016, 06:43 PM
why the assumption that converting energy results in ANY 'loss'? seems to me it is still in the loop, just not where you would like it to be. so energy 'lost' to atm isn't really lost, it adds to warming, which adds to energy capture by ocean life and land plants/animals
this concept flies in the face of the pigmen's manufactured claims that we are running out of energy.....skype claims to date (decades and decades of being wrong) have been discredited. more skype lies for manipulation...thus a cartel existing at the exact time skype screaming peak oil. f==ing moronic that a cartel and a scarce resource downtrend are alive at the same time. shows us how gullible the goy are
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globalist warming, peak oil, peak water, bitchez
like singualar claims -- it's all in the vibrator
crimethink
13th December 2016, 07:49 PM
I'm still waiting for Thorium Molten Salt Reactors to be created
Enjoy: http://thmsr.nl/#/
singular_me
13th December 2016, 07:59 PM
anything that is perpetual such as tides, electricity, wind, etc can be called free energy. Humans have just to come up with a system that is compatible. Good post cebu
and money stands in the way, the quest for profits kills any free energy concept.
fossil oil is killing the planet in the meantime
All bullshit...
You are absolutely correct on your views... That sucks for me.
It's still "free" energy tho. Kinda like wind or ocean.
Will it stop becuase you refuse to use it?
Ares
13th December 2016, 08:25 PM
anything that is perpetual such as tides, electricity, wind, etc can be called free energy. Humans have just to come up with a system that is compatible. Good post cebu
:rolleyes:
No it's not Free Energy. Why do you people continue to call it Free Energy when it's easily provable that the energy that Cebu posted is not Free Energy and is already part of an existing system? Have any of you even thought about the repercussions of taking the energy that is intended to be grounded by Earth? What other system relies upon this energy and what affects will be felt if humanity starts harvesting it on a massive scale? I'm talking hundreds of millions of megawatts per year to power human civilization. What kind of hardware and storage systems will have to be invented to capture and store this energy?
and money stands in the way, the quest for profits kills any free energy concept.
And you have YET to say how anyone is going to invent the system that will capture this "free energy" :rolleyes: store this energy, transport this energy, mine the minerals for the equipment to store, transport and utilize this energy, mass produce the products needed for this energy all for free.
Stop preaching your bullshit, no one is buying it but you.
fossil oil is killing the planet in the meantime
Then come up with a solution, because all I see from you is bitching and complaining of current problems but not offering a single solution other than some bullshit fantasy that doesn't exist anywhere near reality..
cheka.
13th December 2016, 09:00 PM
anything that is perpetual such as tides, electricity, wind, etc can be called free energy. Humans have just to come up with a system that is compatible. Good post cebu
and money stands in the way, the quest for profits kills any free energy concept.
fossil oil is killing the planet in the meantime
FOSSIL OIL? you can't be serious
Neuro
13th December 2016, 10:15 PM
FOSSIL OIL? you can't be serious
She is a victim of "mainstream" "science"...
;D
singular_me
14th December 2016, 04:25 AM
well, thanks for reminding me that fossil oil is a deception, doesnt come from dinosaurs but I stand by what I said
OIL industry is destroying the planet for the sake of $$, and any other quest for profits will get us much of the same.
FOSSIL OIL? you can't be serious
Ares
14th December 2016, 07:02 AM
well, thanks for reminding me that fossil oil is a deception, doesnt come from dinosaurs but I stand by what I said
OIL industry is destroying the planet for the sake of $$, and any other quest for profits will get us much of the same.
So much bullshit you need waders to walk through it all.
The oil industry is not destroying the planet for the sake of money. They are extracting oil for a profit because society demands it. Instead of bitching and complaining do something about it. Invent another source of cheap, reliable source of energy.
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