Wow - Bolton questions if Russian hacks were ‘false flag’

[Ares]

John Bolton, the former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations who has been floated for a possible role in Donald Trump’s State Department, questioned reports of Russian interference in the U.S. presidential election.

“It is not at all clear to me, just viewing this from the outside, that this hacking into the DNC and the RNC was not a false flag operation,” he told Fox News’ Eric Shawn on Sunday.

When pressed about his use of the phrase “false flag” and whether he was accusing an entity in the U.S. of involvement, Bolton said, “We just don’t know.”

“But I believe that intelligence has been politicized in the Obama administration to a very significant degree.”

The Washington Post reported Friday that the CIA concluded Russia intervened in the election to help Trump win the presidency.

Various people have been identified who helped the Russian government leak hacked documents from Democratic sources, including the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman, to WikiLeaks, according to the report.

Trump assailed Democrats over the issue on Sunday, saying it was ridiculous to think Russia interfered in the election to help him get elected, even as a bipartisan group of senators called for an investigation.

But, “if you think the Russians did this, then why did they leave fingerprints?” that led the CIA to its conclusion, Bolton questioned.

“We would want to know who else might want to influence the election and why they would leave fingerprints that point to the Russians. That’s why I say until we know more about how the intelligence community came to this conclusion we don’t know whether it is Russian inspired or a false flag."

http://thehill.com/homenews/309897-bolton-questions-if-russian-hacks-were-false-flag

[Joshua01]

I have a pretty good guess but I'm not one of those educated informed politicians so what do I know?

[Cebu_4_2]

I like this guy, he don't really know and he says the same instead of an oppinion.

Give it to the MSM or the obama team and they have instant answers.

[Horn]

The actual corruption uncovered by those hacks however will Not be investi/prosecuted by the Senate on either side bipartisan or otherwise.

How convenient that is for Bolton Trump or anyone in the media to passover.

Well due to it being normal operating corruption procedure...

[Joshua01]

The actual corruption uncovered by those hacks however will Not be investi/prosecuted by the Senate on either side bipartisan or otherwise.

How convenient that is for Bolton Trump or anyone in the media to passover.
Because....Russians!

[Horn]

Because....Russians!

Sure its despicable for the Russians to hack your campaign, its OK for the campaign to hack itself though.

Murder only matters so long as its not the wrong person doing it.

[EE_]

Every news station is throwing these serious accusations around like fact, yet I've not heard the head of the CIA make a public statement confirming anything.

2. Why has Russia not been asked if their investigation into the matter has found anything in their defense?
I'm pretty sure they have a diplomat that speaks on Russia's behalf. This is a serious accusation that if proven true, requires retaliation.

3. Or is this whole matter a big bunch of bullshit for public consumption, to further paint Russia as our enemy.
Very suspicious the two biggest RINO's in the republican party, 'Insane' McCain and Lindsey 'Adolf Hitler' Graham, jumped in with the liberal Jews, like Chuck 'the hook nosed rat' Schumer, to push for the investigation.

[Twisted Titan]

I like this guy, he don't really know and he says the same instead of an oppinion.

Give it to the MSM or the obama team and they have instant answers.


Bolton is a major,major and I mean MAJOR @$$HOLE.

he has no compunction about starting a war because he knows two things.

I dont have to phyically fight it
No matter how many die it was worth it.


Not a shred of compassion,pause or cooth is to be found with him.


I wish trump wouldnt have anything to do with him because he just that bad and he doesnt give a flying eff who he offends

[EE_]

Bolton is a major,major and I mean MAJOR @$$HOLE.

he has no compunction about starting a war because he knows two things.

I dont have to phyically fight it
No matter how many die it was worth it.


Not a shred of compassion,pause or cooth is to be found with him.


I wish trump wouldnt have anything to do with him because he just that bad and he doesnt give a flying eff who he offends

I'm hopeful Trump picks Rex Tillerson. With so many complaining, he must be the right guy for the job.

[JohnQPublic]

This is his rationale:

Georgia election officials accuses DHS of hacking state computer system (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/9/georgia-election-officials-accuses-dhs-hacking-sta/)


Georgia’s top election official this week accused the U.S. Department of Homeland Security of trying to hack a computer network containing the state’s voter registration database.Brian Kemp, Georgia’s secretary of state, demanded information about the alleged intrusion attempt in a letter sent Thursday to Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson.
“On Nov. 15, an IP address associated with the Department of Homeland Security made an unsuccessful attempt to penetrate the Georgia Secretary of State’s firewall. I am writing you to ask whether DHS was aware of this attempt and, if so, why DHS was attempting to breach our firewall,” Mr. Kemp wrote (https://www.cyberscoop.com/georgia-hack-dhs-brian-kemp-jeh-johnson/).

“At no time has my office agreed to or permitted DHS to conduct penetration testing or security scans of our network,” he added. “Moreover, your department has not contacted my office since this unsuccessful incident to alert us of any security event that would require testing or scanning of our network. This is especially odd and concerning since I serve on the Election Cyber Security Working Group that your office created.”

Indeed, Mr. Kemp was appointed by the nonpartisan National Association of Secretaries of State earlier this year to serve as an adviser for a DHS working group tasked with helping states manage cyber risks to their election and voting systems prior to the Nov. 8 election.
Despite holding that role, however, Georgia was one of only two states in the country that refused assistance offered by DHS in the run-up to last month’s race, Cyberscoop reported (https://www.cyberscoop.com/georgia-hack-dhs-brian-kemp-jeh-johnson/), notwithstanding heightened concerns from coast to coast at the time over the possibility of the contest being sidelined by a cyberattack...
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Wow! Spy vs. Spy in the US is now out in the open. The internal strife within establishment circles is exposed for all to see. Amazing times.

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[Ares]

Bolton is a major,major and I mean MAJOR @$$HOLE.

he has no compunction about starting a war because he knows two things.

I dont have to phyically fight it
No matter how many die it was worth it.


Not a shred of compassion,pause or cooth is to be found with him.


I wish trump wouldnt have anything to do with him because he just that bad and he doesnt give a flying eff who he offends

I know he's a major asshole. But to have him elude to it being a false flag on MSM news is kind of eye opening. Even for him, a guy who loves war to say we don't know for sure if it was the Russians is a huge step. Maybe he's getting wiser in his older age? I doubt it, but anything is possible.

[Twisted Titan]

Bolton will Never ever EVER see the error of his ways.

But i guess Bolton can be characterized as a useful idiot.

I mean look who he is barking at.

People that most of us here loathe with a passion.



I wont lie i throughly enjoy bolton taking his wrecking ball to the lefts straw grabbing.

Never thought i would see it in my lifetime

[Neuro]

Bolton will Never ever EVER see the error of his ways.

But i guess Bolton can be characterized as a useful idiot.

I mean look who he is barking at.

People that most of us here loathe with a passion.



I wont lie i throughly enjoy bolton taking his wrecking ball to the lefts straw grabbing.

Never thought i would see it in my lifetime
I just think he is trying to look sweet to Trumps voting base. He knows that most people consider him more neocon than Dick Cheney, so he just tries to start off looking better. Don't expect a follow through. He has the moral fiber, compassion and the empathy of Darth Vader.

[EE_]

I know he's a major asshole. But to have him elude to it being a false flag on MSM news is kind of eye opening. Even for him, a guy who loves war to say we don't know for sure if it was the Russians is a huge step. Maybe he's getting wiser in his older age? I doubt it, but anything is possible.

I thought the same thing when I heard him use the term 'false flag'. That's a term usually left to conspiracy theorist. So when someone like Bolton is acknowledging false flags are being done by governments, doesn't that lead people to think other, or many false flag events are taking place on a regular basis...and by the US government too?

[Joshua01]

I thought the same thing when I heard him use the term 'false flag'. That's a term usually left to conspiracy theorist. So when someone like Bolton is acknowledging false flags are being done by governments, doesn't that lead people to think other, or many false flag events are taking place on a regular basis...and by the US government too?
False flags aren't just for tin hats any more

[Neuro]

I thought the same thing when I heard him use the term 'false flag'. That's a term usually left to conspiracy theorist. So when someone like Bolton is acknowledging false flags are being done by governments, doesn't that lead people to think other, or many false flag events are taking place on a regular basis...and by the US government too?
He might want to lead us down the path of these hacks which will lead us to [drumroll], the RUSSIANS! This will ridicule all false flag theories, and start a war with Russia. Mission accomplished.

[crimethink]

Bolton has a purpose in painting the "hacking" lie as a false flag.

And that purpose is not for America's best interests...but "Israel's."

Bolton, like Netanyahu, has one guiding principle: is it good for "Israel."

We know that Putin is surrounded by Jews, just like Trump. Perhaps the new goal is a joint US-Russian expedition in the Middle East...for "Israel."

[Horn]

That would be shockingly degrading to the past democratic regime, though something to consider with everything put up for jumpball recently.

The plug is getting pulled on many recent agendas without banker's prints on them.

Many persons and states were heavily vested in them. Banks could probably weather easily with agendas removal, not so sure the states can?

[Neuro]

Bolton has a purpose in painting the "hacking" lie as a false flag.

And that purpose is not for America's best interests...but "Israel's."

Bolton, like Netanyahu, has one guiding principle: is it good for "Israel."

We know that Putin is surrounded by Jews, just like Trump. Perhaps the new goal is a joint US-Russian expedition in the Middle East...for "Israel."
Good thinking out of the box. Throw everyone under the bus. Iran and Saudi fight each other to death directly and US-Russia bomb the shit out of the rest together. ''Tis necessary for "GREATER ISRAEL"

https://www.darkmoon.me/uploads/The-Promised-Land.jpg

[Neuro]

Good thinking out of the box. Throw everyone under the bus. Iran and Saudi fight each other to death directly and US-Russia bomb the shit out of the rest together. ''Tis necessary for "GREATER ISRAEL"

https://www.darkmoon.me/uploads/The-Promised-Land.jpg

According to this map. Turkey would probably get the North-Eastern part of Syria, and North Iraq. Turkish army has already occupied parts of it. Displaced Turks from Middle East would be resettled there, And become Neo-Ottomania. Iran would get Eastern Iraq, and become Neo-Persia and shiites and alivies will be resettled there... what is remaining of Saudi-Arabia and Yemen will become Arabia. And Sunni Arabs will be resettled there. And then the rest will be the land of milk and honey for the Jews.

Shalom Israel!
From the Swejish group Army of Lovers;
https://vimeo.com/73149624

https://vimeo.com/73149624

Perhaps Trumps "I'll be Great for Israel" is supposed to be read "I'll be for Greater Israel".

[crimethink]

Good thinking out of the box. Throw everyone under the bus. Iran and Saudi fight each other to death directly and US-Russia bomb the shit out of the rest together. ''Tis necessary for "GREATER ISRAEL"

https://www.darkmoon.me/uploads/The-Promised-Land.jpg

Consider:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJeoMh22vcw

[monty]

Second ambassador comes forward

http://conservativetribune.com/ambassador-comes-forward/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=ConservativeTribune&utm_content=2016-12-12&utm_campaign=manualpost


2nd Amb. Comes Forward… EXPLODES CIA Election Claims… Says He Knows Where Info Came From… Not Russia

The liberal media have (http://conservativetribune.com/russian-hacking-claim-priebus/) been playing up a report by the Central Intelligence Agency that hackers aligned with the Russian government had allegedly provided Julian Assange with the hacked emails (http://conservativetribune.com/hillarys-wicked-plan-for-guns/) his website WikiLeaks published during the fall, but a former British ambassador to Uzbekistan is going public again to blow the story out of the water.


“As [WikiLeaks founder] Julian Assange has made crystal clear, the leaks did not come from the Russians,” former Ambassador Craig Murray wrote on his blog (https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2016/12/cias-absence-conviction/) Monday morning, adding that he had direct access to the original source. “As I have explained countless times, they are not hacks, they are insider leaks — there is a major difference between the two …


“Now both Julian Assange and I have stated definitively the leak does not come from Russia. Do we credibly have access? Yes, very obviously. Very, very few people can be said to definitely have access to the source of the leak. The people saying it is not Russia are those who do have access.”


Moreover, where the hacks originated had no real bearing on what they had revealed, which was that both the Democrat Party and failed Democrat presidential nominee (http://conservativetribune.com/sanders-drops-comey-bombshell/) Hillary Clinton were corrupt.


“(I)f Hillary Clinton had not connived with the DNC to fix the primary schedule to disadvantage Bernie … had not received advance notice of live debate questions to use against Bernie … had not accepted massive donations to the Clinton Foundation and family members in return for foreign policy influence … had not failed to distance herself from some very weird and troubling people (http://conservativetribune.com/podesta-connected-to-occult/),” then perhaps she would have won, Murray added.


It felt as if the lightning-speed spread of this unconfirmed Russian hacker conspiracy among liberal media outlets was therefore nothing more than an attempt by liberal Democrats and their media sycophants to deflect blame for Clinton’s epic loss.



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Murray’s post was the second time in two days that a former ambassador had cast doubt on the theory.


Speaking Sunday on CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-bolton-claims-of-russian-hacking-could-be-false-flag-operation/), John Bolton, former U.S. ambassador to the United States, said the conspiracy theory might even be a potential “false flag.”


“It is not at all clear to me, just viewing this from the outside, that this hacking into the DNC and the RNC computers was not a false flag operation,” he said, implying that the Obama administration was working in tandem with the liberal media to mislead the public to distract them from other things.
As for Assange and officials in Russia, both have reportedly denied allegations they they conspired to interfere with the 2016 presidential election.


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“The Kremlin has rejected the hacking accusations, while the WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has previously said the DNC leaks were not linked to Russia,” The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/10/cia-concludes-russia-interfered-to-help-trump-win-election-report?CMP=share_btn_tw) reported Sunday.


And Murray, who has been vocal before (http://conservativetribune.com/entity-behind-wikileaks-hacks/)about the claim of Russian involvement, minced no words about where he placed the blame for the latest spin on the election.


“It is terrible that the prime conduit for this paranoid nonsense is a once great newspaper, the Washington Post, which far from investigating executive power, now is a sounding board for totally evidence free anonymous source briefing of utter bullshit from the executive, he wrote


Please share this story on Facebook and Twitter and let us know what you think about former Ambassadors Craig Murray and John Bolton both dismissing claims that Russian hackers interfered with the presidential election!

[Neuro]

This just in...

‘West has been blaming Russia for everything, now there’s backlash’ – Gorbachev
https://www.rt.com/news/370155-gorbachev-interview-ap-russia/

The spring-melt just started it seems.

Let's redraw the map of the Middle East!