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vacuum
20th December 2016, 09:16 PM
Maybe there is hope after all?

There is good discussion in the article's comment section:
http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=2143


Trump’s Victory Is a Pivotal Turning Point in Human History (http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=2143)

Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 12:44 pm 63 Comments (http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=2143#comments)

Donald Trump’s victory in November was not only the most important election result of our lifetimes, but ranks as one of the most significant events in recorded history, on par with the French Revolution or the fall of the Berlin Wall. And I’ll tell you why.


Western society is super-saturated with leftist propaganda. Politically astute non-leftists see it everywhere and complain about it incessantly — because it is ubiquitous. In fact, most of our waking hours are spent noticing, commenting upon, getting outraged by and then futilely combatting the endless, relentless leftist slant to everything in modern culture.

Every news broadcast. Every movie. Every lesson in every classroom. Every social signifier in public. Every poll. Every TV show. Every tribal shibboleth. In ways large and small, overt and covert, subtle and blatant, the society around us is infused with progressive ideals and agendas, whether you realize it or not.

And it’s not just the entire preschool-through-PhD educational system, the entire media/entertainment complex, and most interpersonal environments; increasingly, under Obama especially, the federal government itself has become an inescapable agent of coercive progressive propaganda imposed on us with the full force of the state.
But what is the purpose of all this propaganda?

The Goal of Indoctrination

The culture-wide brainwash we witness with chagrin every day is not designed to ignite a violent overthrow of the American political structure — long experience has proven that violent revolutions simply don’t happen in middle-class first-world countries. We’re too comfortable as a nation for that strategy to ever work. Instead, the ultimate goal of all this brainwashing and social intimidation is to make the general population VOTE as the Left wants us to vote.

Many of the progressives fighting (and seemingly winning) the “culture wars” may not even realize the ultimate purpose of their activism — most naively think that the goal of altering America’s social mores is merely to alter America’s social mores, and nothing beyond that. What other objective could there be?

The answer, of course, is obvious: Political change. While it is possible, I suppose, for a thoroughly left-wing society to accept being forever ruled by a conservative government, such a state of affairs never endures for long in the real world. Indeed, one of the core values at the heart of leftism (aside from the touchy-feely cultural stuff) is that the machinery of the state exists for the very purpose of imposing by force progressive ideology on the populace. So the “culture wars” can never be fully won until leftists have a firm grip on political power.

And how do you get political power in America? You don’t have a bloody revolution. Violent revolutions can only ever succeed in what were called “peasant societies” — czarist Russia, impoverished rural China, etc., where there were large populations of oppressed peasants — but never in industrialized countries, as Marx had incorrectly assumed.

Instead, in the United States of America, you gain power incrementally by winning elections. And the way you win elections is by changing the hearts and minds (and thus the voting patterns) of the hoi polloi.

The term for this process, in Marxist theory, is cultural hegemony (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_hegemony), a phrase that was coined by communist philosopher Antonio Gramsci to describe how the political power-structure of a society is always determined by the cultural norms of that society. A conservative-minded populace will always vote for conservative-minded leaders, so the way to achieve communism in advanced nations, he argued, would be to first change the culture so that progressive ideals become dominant, and then people will simply vote themselves into communism without the need for a revolution.

And the way to change the culture, according to the theory, is to slowly infiltrate and then surreptitiously seize control of the “institutions” which shape cultural awareness — most importantly the mass media and the educational system. This process was strongly advocated by the influential leftist philosophers at the Frankfurt School (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School#Theoretical_work), and was eventually given the catchy name “the long march through the institutions” by ’60s radical Rudi Dutschke (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudi_Dutschke).

So, it’s no accident, nor did it simply happen naturally, that everything in society since the 1950s seems to have shifted wildly leftward toward political correctness; it is in fact a decades-long strategic plan to change the underlying nature of society to pave the way for an eventual socialist utopia. And while part of that plan is to deny it even exists (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School#Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theor y), in reality modern academia spends most of its time these days openly discussing and debating (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_theory#In_social_theory) how to best implement it.

The point behind Gramscianism and “stealth communism” (as I call it) is that the revolution in the United States should not and can not be a violent revolution, but instead a quiet revolution in which the populace imposes communism on itself willingly — what Bernie Sanders correctly dubs “democratic socialism” — that is to say, by electing socialist leaders democratically.

Which brings us to the main point: The entire purpose of 60 years of slanted media and slanted news and slanted education and social pressure and brainwashing and deception and indoctrination — all of it, everything we complain about every day, all day, for years and years and years — the purpose of all this is to get people to vote for the most left-wing candidate in each presidential election. The goal is to bring about a self-imposed silent revolution in America, a democratically elected socialist government voted in by low-information rubes unaware of what they’re doing.

And it has looked ever since Obama’s ascendancy in 2008 that this long-term strategy had reached a tipping point of success from which there was no return — no conservative could ever win another presidential election. With each passing year, the population was getting younger, more radical, more brainwashed, etc. (Midterm/off-year elections are a somewhat different story, as regional conservative outposts could still elect local representatives — but on a national scale, they were greatly outnumbered by burgeoning young generations of leftists.)

The results of these decades of indoctrination was plainly visible in the college students of today, who are all so left-wing by default that they consider standard Marxism too old-fashioned and conservative. Taking this into consideration, and remembering that the adults of today were the radical students of the recent past, it had seemed that these decades of indoctrination had been resoundingly successful, and that the U.S. electorate had swung wildly to the left, never to swing back, just as the Gramscian brainwashers had been planning and implementing for the last 50 or more years.

Ooops

And then November 8, 2016 happened, and BOOM: It was all revealed to be a lie. Not only did the indoctrination fail, but the general impression that the relentless indoctrination had always been successful was itself a gigantic meta-deception.

All the chatter and statistics and talk show “experts” proclaiming that America had forever swung Democratic? ALL LIES.

All the slanted polls, which were intended to convince everyone that Hillary was inevitable? ALL LIES.

The derision of Trump as a ludicrous fringe candidate and his supporters as wild-eyed extremists? ALL LIES.

And it’s not just that they were all lies — they were lies that had no effect. Somehow, without anyone noticing, a majority of the American populace had evolved a new immunity to progressive disinformation. [vacuum comment: is the new immunity the internet? meme magic?]

It doesn’t even matter what Trump’s actual political beliefs are or what his policies will be. All that matters is that he was the media’s Designated Enemy and yet he won.

This election didn’t merely expose the failure of six months of campaigning by the Democratic Party. This election exposed the failure of SIX DECADES of leftist propaganda to have any cumulative effect at all.

And the earthquake extends deep into the future as well. Thanks to Trump’s history-shattering victory, we now know that the Gramscian model and the Frankfurt School model don’t work. Every single thing the Left has done since the 1950s has been catastrophically wrongheaded and misconceived. It has all backfired. Which means that going into future, when they will (as they surely will) continue their failed strategy on autopilot, it will all be for naught. Why? Because these techniques only work if the victims don’t know they’re being propagandized. Yet the public in recent years has become much more sophisticated. Now we do know. And we can never un-know, once our eyes have been opened.

The Left has to now go back to the drawing board and come up with an entirely new playbook. And once they do, it will surely take decades to implement.

But the best part? The Left doesn’t understand any of this, and they won’t reformulate their playbook. They will stick to the same failed script, as we have already seen just in the last few weeks since the election. Years from now, and likely even decades from now, the Left will still be trying their stealth (and not-so-stealth) propaganda/indoctrination/bullying efforts, and they will continue to fail.

That’s why Trump’s victory is so historically significant: It is a major paradigm shift in the arc of history that completely destroys the leftists’ long-term game plan, past, present and future. To such an extent that now we’re playing an entirely new game with entirely new rules. But the left refuses to acknowledge this, and they will continue to play the old game. So they will lose. And lose. And lose. And lose. Over and over and over again until they too see the futility of the entire leftist worldview.

Joshua01
20th December 2016, 09:30 PM
Maybe yes...maybe no. A lot can happen between now and Jan 20th 2017

Twisted Titan
21st December 2016, 08:26 AM
Trump was THE ULTIMATE black swan


He was a Democrat that ran as Republican but carried the agenda of the Independents.

cheka.
21st December 2016, 08:37 AM
trump is a nazi

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/12/trump_is_undermining_the_things_you_take_for_grant ed_in_government_and_public.html

Most troubling is way that Trump is shaping the White House to undermine American pluralism and advance a vision of ethno-nationalist government. Lost in the Trump-stoked controversies of the past month is the fact that he has installed a West Wing team with deep ties to an international movement of white nationalists.

The New York Times reports that Michael Flynn, Trump’s incoming national security adviser, recently met with the leader of Austria’s far-right Freedom Party, Heinz-Christian Strache. The Freedom Party, founded in 1956 by former members of the Nazi Party, has signed a cooperation agreement with United Russia, the party of Russian President Vladimir Putin. All of this is in line with Putin as a lodestar for a movement of white nationalists, right-wing populists, and outright Nazis. “Mr. Putin,” writes the Times in a recent story, “is widely revered as a kind of white knight: a symbol of strength, racial purity and traditional Christian values in a world under threat from Islam, immigrants and rootless cosmopolitan elites.”

Trump’s chief strategist, Stephen Bannon, holds something close to this worldview: that the white Western world is caught in a civilizational war with Islam and that in this fight, Putin’s Russia is a potential ally to the United States, not an opponent. “I’m not justifying Vladimir Putin and the kleptocracy that he represents,” said Bannon in a 2014 speech. “However, we the Judeo-Christian West really have to look at what he’s talking about as far as traditionalism goes.” He continued: “I really believe that in this current environment, where you’re facing a potential new caliphate that is very aggressive. ... I think we have to deal with first things first.”

Empowering these views—giving state authority to a movement centered on white nationalism—is a direct assault on multiracial democracy and represents a dangerous subversion of a political prohibition on open racism that has sustained American tolerance, as imperfect as it is, for the last generation.

Which is to say that, at minimum, what we have in President Donald Trump is a White House with open and unprecedented conflicts of interest, to say nothing of an economic team with deep ties to the finance industry, that’s poised to shape policy in a way that would enrich Trump and his heirs. To that, add advisers with tangible and ideological ties to a global movement set in opposition to American pluralism and liberal democracy.

Trump is set to undermine much of what Americans take for granted in their government and in their public life. And this matters. Not just because of what it looks like but because—in breaching the norms of governance—Trump threatens the very basis of American democracy. Our system only works when its participants adhere to standards that exist beyond the letter of the law—when they reject practices and ways of politics that don’t break the rules but violate those standards.

Trump is president, in part, because one institution—the Electoral College—didn’t reject those practices. The irony is that, if Trump continues on this path of flouting long-standing norms, then the rock on which the Electoral College rests, the American democratic tradition, will start to fracture. Trump needed the habits and institutions of our liberal democracy to become president. He doesn’t much need them anymore.

more at link..

Santa
21st December 2016, 09:15 AM
A whole lot of hyperbole and wishful thinking going on in the op article.

midnight rambler
21st December 2016, 09:36 AM
Final tally Trump won by 3 million votes outside Jew York and Mexifornicate.

monty
21st December 2016, 10:06 AM
Final tally Trump won by 3 million votes outside Jew York and Mexifornicate.


I suspect if there was an honest count of the Soros controlled electronic ballots in Nevada the number is higher. I think Harry Reid and George Soros won Nevada for Hillary.

Neuro
21st December 2016, 10:07 AM
trump is a nazi

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/12/trump_is_undermining_the_things_you_take_for_grant ed_in_government_and_public.html

Most troubling is way that Trump is shaping the White House to undermine American pluralism and advance a vision of ethno-nationalist government. Lost in the Trump-stoked controversies of the past month is the fact that he has installed a West Wing team with deep ties to an international movement of white nationalists.

The New York Times reports that Michael Flynn, Trump’s incoming national security adviser, recently met with the leader of Austria’s far-right Freedom Party, Heinz-Christian Strache. The Freedom Party, founded in 1956 by former members of the Nazi Party, has signed a cooperation agreement with United Russia, the party of Russian President Vladimir Putin. All of this is in line with Putin as a lodestar for a movement of white nationalists, right-wing populists, and outright Nazis. “Mr. Putin,” writes the Times in a recent story, “is widely revered as a kind of white knight: a symbol of strength, racial purity and traditional Christian values in a world under threat from Islam, immigrants and rootless cosmopolitan elites.”

Trump’s chief strategist, Stephen Bannon, holds something close to this worldview: that the white Western world is caught in a civilizational war with Islam and that in this fight, Putin’s Russia is a potential ally to the United States, not an opponent. “I’m not justifying Vladimir Putin and the kleptocracy that he represents,” said Bannon in a 2014 speech. “However, we the Judeo-Christian West really have to look at what he’s talking about as far as traditionalism goes.” He continued: “I really believe that in this current environment, where you’re facing a potential new caliphate that is very aggressive. ... I think we have to deal with first things first.”

Empowering these views—giving state authority to a movement centered on white nationalism—is a direct assault on multiracial democracy and represents a dangerous subversion of a political prohibition on open racism that has sustained American tolerance, as imperfect as it is, for the last generation.

Which is to say that, at minimum, what we have in President Donald Trump is a White House with open and unprecedented conflicts of interest, to say nothing of an economic team with deep ties to the finance industry, that’s poised to shape policy in a way that would enrich Trump and his heirs. To that, add advisers with tangible and ideological ties to a global movement set in opposition to American pluralism and liberal democracy.

Trump is set to undermine much of what Americans take for granted in their government and in their public life. And this matters. Not just because of what it looks like but because—in breaching the norms of governance—Trump threatens the very basis of American democracy. Our system only works when its participants adhere to standards that exist beyond the letter of the law—when they reject practices and ways of politics that don’t break the rules but violate those standards.

Trump is president, in part, because one institution—the Electoral College—didn’t reject those practices. The irony is that, if Trump continues on this path of flouting long-standing norms, then the rock on which the Electoral College rests, the American democratic tradition, will start to fracture. Trump needed the habits and institutions of our liberal democracy to become president. He doesn’t much need them anymore.

more at link..

Trump ain't even close to being a Nazi (the mythological murderer of Jews in late 30's and early 40's, according to Zionist imposed lore), not even the Germanic National Socialist, who correctly identified the Jew as the biggest obstacle to freedom, prosperity, beauty and truth.

midnight rambler
21st December 2016, 12:29 PM
So what's wrong with being a white nationalist??

Neuro
21st December 2016, 12:59 PM
So what's wrong with being a white nationalist??

Ask Aids Skrillex...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0diJNybk0Mw&feature=share

;D

midnight rambler
21st December 2016, 01:58 PM
I'd give him the choice, hog food or dog food, which shall it be?

"Bloody head good, healed head bad." --J.R. 'Bob' Dobbs


Ask Aids Skrillex...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0diJNybk0Mw&feature=share

;D

Twisted Titan
21st December 2016, 02:59 PM
So what's wrong with being a white nationalist??


Do you have a article so I can site that as a source for my arguments with liberal snow flakes?

Twisted Titan
21st December 2016, 03:01 PM
Final tally Trump won by 3 million votes outside Jew York and Mexifornicate.


Join Date




Do you have a article so I can site that as a source for my arguments with liberal snow flakes?

crimethink
21st December 2016, 03:15 PM
Trump was THE ULTIMATE black swan

A Black Swan is an unknown and unforeseen variable.

Trump was neither unknown nor unforeseen. Recall that Bill Clinton personally suggested to him to run.

You continue to accept on faith the concept he is actually in opposition to the System, despite the fact he has selected numerous System elements for his administration.

I do not understand how people can refuse to understand the concept of controlled "opposition."

Carl
21st December 2016, 03:17 PM
Trump was THE ULTIMATE black swan

He was a Democrat that ran as Republican but carried the agenda of the Independents.

He ran as an American, and won as such.....

Twisted Titan
21st December 2016, 04:28 PM
A Black Swan is an unknown and unforeseen variable.

Trump was neither unknown nor unforeseen. Recall that Bill Clinton personally suggested to him to run.

You continue to accept on faith the concept he is actually in opposition to the System, despite the fact he has ."

And some for some odd reason you are bewildered by the fact this man does not want to get killed on live TV

There has to be some give and take.

I know trump cast himself as the polar opposite of everything in Washington but now that he is there he has got to find a way to work out his agenda and he has to work with people that absolutely horrible.

You may not like that but that is closer to the truth of the situation

Twisted Titan
21st December 2016, 04:35 PM
I should h have been more clear.

The Trump Victory was the ultimate black swan.

Cause there wasn't a single source that saw him coming out on top.
even He didn't believe it because he said he booked a small room and he would have gave a quick concession speech and left
And us on this board who know elections are rigged was sure it was going to go down like uncle Stalin says they do

Neuro
21st December 2016, 05:05 PM
I should h have been more clear.

The Trump Victory was the ultimate black swan.

Cause there wasn't a single source that saw him coming out on top.
even He didn't believe it because he said he booked a small room and he would have gave a quick concession speech and left
And us on this board who know elections are rigged was sure it was going to go down like uncle Stalin says they do
I thought he was going to win actually, first of all he had a superior public support. Second Hillary were becoming an increasing liability to TPTB. If it had been unrigged election, probably the margin would have been somewhere between 10-20% in Trumps advantage. Very few actually like Hillary, a few support her because they are disillusioned and think she'll represent their interests. And most who actually voted for her did it because they were afraid of the big bad pussygrabbing rayciss Trump. She could get about 40% from that in total, the rest was Trump and then the libertarians and greens (got 3-4% in total).

They could as well have given it to Hill, but as I said she became to much of a liability to them, so they preferred to give it to Trump, but I think the original idea he would be the shoe in for Killy. That's why Billy encouraged him to run when they spoke previous summer.

I really have little hope for Trump, still he would probably be better than Clinton even if he doesn't do anything he promised!

cheka.
21st December 2016, 05:15 PM
I thought he was going to win actually, first of all he had a superior public support. Second Hillary were becoming an increasing liability to TPTB. If it had been unrigged election, probably the margin would have been somewhere between 10-20% in Trumps advantage. Very few actually like Hillary, a few support her because they are disillusioned and think she'll represent their interests. And most who actually voted for her did it because they were afraid of the big bad pussygrabbing rayciss Trump. She could get about 40% from that in total, the rest was Trump and then the libertarians and greens (got 3-4% in total).

They could as well have given it to Hill, but as I said she became to much of a liability to them, so they preferred to give it to Trump, but I think the original idea he would be the shoe in for Killy. That's why Billy encouraged him to run when they spoke previous summer.

I really have little hope for Trump, still he would probably be better than Clinton even if he doesn't do anything he promised!

i went on record with friends and family that trump would win. they were shocked when it happened...and asked me how the hell could i know that

here is what had me convinced: the polls, that were close, only showed LIKELY VOTERS. likely voters are voters that had voted in 3 or 4 of the last prez elections. i thought trump would draw out the people that the polls ignored -- the UN-likely voter......and he did

crimethink
21st December 2016, 07:39 PM
And some for some odd reason you are bewildered by the fact this man does not want to get killed on live TV

There has to be some give and take.

I know trump cast himself as the polar opposite of everything in Washington but now that he is there he has got to find a way to work out his agenda and he has to work with people that absolutely horrible.

You may not like that but that is closer to the truth of the situation

Your perception of him as a "benevolent insider" is pure faith.

Will he do some things that might be beneficial to most of us? Sure. Will the master flight plan change? Nope.

There is much give and take with Trump. He gave many promises, and now he takes most of them back.

crimethink
21st December 2016, 07:42 PM
I should h have been more clear.

The Trump Victory was the ultimate black swan.

Cause there wasn't a single source that saw him coming out on top.
even He didn't believe it because he said he booked a small room and he would have gave a quick concession speech and left
And us on this board who know elections are rigged was sure it was going to go down like uncle Stalin says they do

My contention is that Trump was merely the antithesis to the Clinton thesis. Hence, he is no Black Swan. (((They))) won no matter which of them "won."

The Jewsmedia made Trump, despite the appearance that they were "out to get him."

Had they wanted to actually defeat him, he would have received no coverage whatsoever. At all. "Negative," included. And they sure wouldn't have covered the scandals that utterly destroyed the Clinton Machine's credibility with Sanders supporters.

The "negative" coverage was not only allowed, but part of the design, to give Trump "credibility" as an "outsider," which no sane man believes he is or ever has been or ever will be.

crimethink
21st December 2016, 07:44 PM
I really have little hope for Trump, still he would probably be better than Clinton even if he doesn't do anything he promised!

I didn't have hope for beneficial change, but I merely wanted Her Majesty defeated because I'm so sick of seeing her and everything (evil) she stands for.

crimethink
21st December 2016, 07:46 PM
i went on record with friends and family that trump would win. they were shocked when it happened...and asked me how the hell could i know that

here is what had me convinced: the polls, that were close, only showed LIKELY VOTERS. likely voters are voters that had voted in 3 or 4 of the last prez elections. i thought trump would draw out the people that the polls ignored -- the UN-likely voter......and he did

The non-regular voters for Trump were important, but more important were the disillusioned Sanders supporters who refused to vote for the Clinton Machine which truly fucked over their candidate.

Had the Clinton Machine's machinations against Sanders not been revealed, we would be facing the hag as President-elect instead.

Joshua01
21st December 2016, 08:42 PM
The non-regular voters for Trump were important, but more important were the disillusioned Sanders supporters who refused to vote for the Clinton Machine which truly fucked over their candidate.

Had the Clinton Machine's machinations against Sanders not been revealed, we would be facing the hag as President-elect instead.


Hey Fred, nice to see you back on your meds. :) Some good posts here!

Twisted Titan
22nd December 2016, 03:18 AM
I didn't have hope for beneficial change, but I merely wanted Her Majesty defeated because I'm so sick of seeing her and everything (evil) she stands for.

I agree one thousand Kabillion. Percent

goldleaf
22nd December 2016, 04:31 AM
TPTB know the common people are getting fed up. All they had to do was select Bernie as Hills V.P. to guarantee victory. Trump could very well be the one step back in their 2 steps forward, one step back, way of doing things.