Good things that happened or trends that started in 2016

[Dachsie]

I thought there might be value in thinking back over 2016 and pointing out some positive things that happened or some potentially positive trends that started.

Here is what I came up with. Hope you will chime in too.

1. The whole presidential election dog and pony show made many just totally give up on mainstream media and even to also rule out some of the top alternative media entities. The New York Times had to rent out 8 floors of their big building in NY City because people have just stopped buying that newspaper. Washington Post, purchased by Jeff Bezos, owner of Amazon.com, is also now increasingly being abandoned by paid subscribers. This abandonment of mainstream media seems like a very positive step to me, maybe indicating people are coming into reality and starting to use their critical thinking skills.

2. I think the "false flag" events of 2016 were recognized by more and more people as fake and crafted events. Seems false events of late are pulled off in a very sloppy way so as to just about be a big joke to make fun of. Accepting recent events as false crafted events makes more people look back further in our history of big events and see them now too as false events. People of good will have to individually decide how they will react to the knowledge that we have basically been lied to manipulated on every big event of at least the last century. People who choose not to go along with the system or the establishment will really be our only real hope and change.

3. We I think became aware of the old standard tricks and modus operandi of THEM or THEY who produce these false events. When you look at some of the "body doubles" or fake Hillary's, you see how fake people impersonating a real person has been around a long time. Ringo Starr even just admitted on the record that Paul McCartney died in a car accident in California in the late 1960s and was replaced by, I think, Billy Shears, who did a very good job of looking like Paul and performing well musically. This substituting a completely different person for another is a trick we now see they are perfectly capable of doing and is a trick they have been reasonably successful with. Again, this is good for the reason that we are coming closer to seeing through the fakery and coming closer to the truth.

4. I think many have now come to realize the "money men", that is, finances and banking and money manipulation and policies, really totally control our country and the world and have been responsible for forcing unjust wars on the world. Again more and more people are seeing the connection between the money men and wars and poverty and slavery. Maybe this will translate to more and more people simply not joining the armed forces and just refusing to fight in these unjust wars that kill and maim hundreds of thousands of innocent people. This awakening regarding money matters is causing more and more people of finding ways of dropping out of our corrupt Federal Reserve fiat money system.

5. I think more and more people are beginning to see the connection of Judaic operatives and neocons and the false left /right paradigm with pushing everyone into the one world death and slavery system for all, the New World Order. The more people see this connection, the more we come in to truth and that can only be a good thing.

I just want to say a big God bless us each and every one. May we each draw closer to the One Who is Truth and grow in peace and love.

Merry Christmas

[osoab]

The Ringo Starr thing is fake.

[Dogman]

I thought there might be value in thinking back over 2016 and pointing out some positive things that happened or some potentially positive trends that started.

Here is what I came up with. Hope you will chime in too.

1. The whole presidential election dog and pony show made many just totally give up on mainstream media and even to also rule out some of the top alternative media entities. The New York Times had to rent out 8 floors of their big building in NY City because people have just stopped buying that newspaper. Washington Post, purchased by Jeff Bezos, owner of Amazon.com, is also now increasingly being abandoned by paid subscribers. This abandonment of mainstream media seems like a very positive step to me, maybe indicating people are coming into reality and starting to use their critical thinking skills.

2. I think the "false flag" events of 2016 were recognized by more and more people as fake and crafted events. Seems false events of late are pulled off in a very sloppy way so as to just about be a big joke to make fun of. Accepting recent events as false crafted events makes more people look back further in our history of big events and see them now too as false events. People of good will have to individually decide how they will react to the knowledge that we have basically been lied to manipulated on every big event of at least the last century. People who choose not to go along with the system or the establishment will really be our only real hope and change.

3. We I think became aware of the old standard tricks and modus operandi of THEM or THEY who produce these false events. When you look at some of the "body doubles" or fake Hillary's, you see how fake people impersonating a real person has been around a long time. Ringo Starr even just admitted on the record that Paul McCartney died in a car accident in California in the late 1960s and was replaced by, I think, Billy Shears, who did a very good job of looking like Paul and performing well musically. This substituting a completely different person for another is a trick we now see they are perfectly capable of doing and is a trick they have been reasonably successful with. Again, this is good for the reason that we are coming closer to seeing through the fakery and coming closer to the truth.

4. I think many have now come to realize the "money men", that is, finances and banking and money manipulation and policies, really totally control our country and the world and have been responsible for forcing unjust wars on the world. Again more and more people are seeing the connection between the money men and wars and poverty and slavery. Maybe this will translate to more and more people simply not joining the armed forces and just refusing to fight in these unjust wars that kill and maim hundreds of thousands of innocent people. This awakening regarding money matters is causing more and more people of finding ways of dropping out of our corrupt Federal Reserve fiat money system.

5. I think more and more people are beginning to see the connection of Judaic operatives and neocons and the false left /right paradigm with pushing everyone into the one world death and slavery system for all, the New World Order. The more people see this connection, the more we come in to truth and that can only be a good thing.

I just want to say a big God bless us each and every one. May we each draw closer to the One Who is Truth and grow in peace and love.

Merry Christmas

6. That it has been proven on this forum, that the world is not flat, nor round.

It really is a cube or maybe better said cubish in shape !

;D

[Glass]

I think the human race has reached the point in it's history where it is being enticed to eat from the tree of knowledge. Taking into account that it is the snake and the helpers of the snake that is doing the enticing and that the tree of knowledge may not be what they say it is.

For the more literal of us here, the choice between feeding on lies or truth, on living by lies or truth and that the tree the apple came from may or may not the be the tree of knowledge.

[Joshua01]

Earth's history is full of extinct civilizations we know nothing about. Something tells me Mother Earth seen this shit many times before. This time it's our turn

[Twisted Titan]

This election has been a godsend on innumerable levels

The most apparent is the biblical quote" He who is not with me is against me"


You can see everybody for pretty much what they are... the left always claimed peace and tolerance. That is until they didn't get what they were expecting and then the mask came off and the violence has been non stop and they have no desire to compromise with anything or anyone diametrically opposed to their sanctimonious views.

It is nice to know the truth about people

[singular_me]

the only thing that the snake didnt say is that eating the fruit from the three of Knowledge comes Responsibility and respect for Creation. And there is a good reason as why the snake is hiding in It. This metaphor is very powerful because with Knowledge comes the end of all false perceptions, which are manipulated by the snake of course. The Three and the snake form a duality as the snake inspires the fear of Knowledge. Fundamentalism comes to mind here.

However, I believe that the snake has several meanings, depending on the culture. The snake may also represent the DNA spiral and the electric flows along the spine, hence the medical Caduceus (wings representing Hermes). This interpretation may be extended to anything that spirals: fibonacci sequence.

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And what is your take about the snake and the Three?


World leaders do not care of how many will die in the next plunder/war/economic invasion. Wanna save the world, it starts right there.


I think the human race has reached the point in it's history where it is being enticed to eat from the tree of knowledge. Taking into account that it is the snake and the helpers of the snake that is doing the enticing and that the tree of knowledge may not be what they say it is.

For the more literal of us here, the choice between feeding on lies or truth, on living by lies or truth and that the tree the apple came from may or may not the be the tree of knowledge.

[Ares]

the only thing that the snake didnt say is that eating the fruit from the three of Knowledge comes Responsibility and respect for Creation. And there is a good reason as why the snake is hiding in It. This metaphor is very powerful because with Knowledge comes the end of all false perceptions, which are manipulated by the snake of course. The Three and the snake form a duality as the snake must inspire the fear of Knowledge. Fundamentalism comes to mind here.

However, I believe that the snake has several meanings, depending on culture. The snake may also represent the DNA spiral and the electric flows along the spine, hence the medical Caduceus (wings representing Hermes). This interpretation may be extended to anything that spirals: fibonacci sequence.

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And what is your take about the snake and the Three?


World leaders do not care of how many will die in the next plunder/war/economic invasion. Wanna save the world, it starts right there.

Speaking of false perceptions, care to let us all in how the world will be fed by those with the land, knowledge, and skill to produce said food without a medium of exchange?

[osoab]

Speaking of false perceptions, care to let us all in how the world will be fed by those with the land, knowledge, and skill to produce said food without a medium of exchange?

Hordes don't need a medium of exchange.

[singular_me]

well I am guessing your stance is in favor of universal income then. Because that is all what we'll get, unless living in the outskirts with mad max.

HOW will you resolve the massive job losses around the corner due to robotics and automation??

the false perception is to think one can milk the system to no end. That is why ^they^ are winning. Materialism itself is a deception to start with. Darwin is a scam, man has the dominion over nature to allow him to precisely escape what is called natural selection, which works well for animals.

Passion: to do what one only is interested in (as long as it does not harm others) and thrive for is the only way to go.

I trust the human nature in a non-coercive and money-free society will find a way out -- and you believe that humans can only respond to the pavlov incentive of money and power.... turn on your TV and see the damages.

The premise that man owns earth/land is also generated by darwinian monetarism. Govs love it. They can use it as a tool to scare off masses with threats of invasions and economic turmoil... hello catch 22, here we go again.

Materialism causes false perceptions and is at the core of all human issues.

your question makes me think of the question of what would happen if all drugs were legalized. Same with money, addiction to money has dire consequences. Now playing out there.


Speaking of false perceptions, care to let us all in how the world will be fed by those with the land, knowledge, and skill to produce said food without a medium of exchange?

[Ares]

well I am guessing your stance is in favor of universal income then. Because that is all what we'll get, unless living in the outskirts with mad max.

I am not, as there is no such thing as a "universal income". Why not call it what it is? Universal theft by the state to provide for those who do not or will not provide for themselves.


HOW will you resolve the massive job losses around the corner due to robotics and automation??

No clue, and I know robotics is going to replace a lot of jobs that unskilled labor used to do.. But I'm definitely not calling for some fantasy of giving away the production to those who do not produce. You stifle innovation, ambition, and self improvement if you just give to those who are unskilled and not adaptive to the new reality. Life is tough, and nothing in life is free. Human nature if it has everything it wants or needs is laziness. Look no further than Africa. An entire continent of laziness with little to no ambition for self improvement.


the false perception is to think one can milk the system to no end. That is why ^they^ are winning. Materialism itself is a deception to start with. Darwin is a scam, man has the dominion over nature to allow him to precisely escape what is called natural selection, which works well for animals.

The false perception is to think anyone is going to work for free or provide their labor, knowledge, skill or talents for free. That in and of itself goes against human nature.


Passion: to do what one only is interested in (as long as it does not harm others) and thrive for is the only way to go.

Getting paid to perform your passion is even better. Getting paid well is an added bonus. Performing your passion for free while you receive no benefit, recognition or even food is akin to slavery.


I trust the human nature in a non-coercive and money-free society will find a way out -- and you believe that humans can only respond to the pavlov incentive of money and power.... turn on your TV and see the damages.

And I do not, as human nature has a long history of trying to get such a fantasy to work, and it always ends in absolute failure. Human nature and individuality. If we were a collective it could theoretically work, but since we are all individuals with different wants, needs and ambitions such a system will never work.


The premise that man owns earth/land is also generated by darwinian monetarism. Govs love it. They can use it as a tool to scare off masses with threats of invasions and economic turmoil... so we have a catch 22 here. Here we go again.

Without land ownership, you're nothing more than a slave.


Materialism causes false perceptions and at the core of all human issues.

Materialism has its faults, and many people are blinded and owned by the things that they buy to fill some form of self worth. But your not even bothering to look at the problem. Is it materialism that drives this behavior or the lack of freedom that drives materialism?

[cheka.]

the main theme of what changed was that more white people pulled their heads out of their asses. this white awakening begat several things:

- nigs chimp out

- mexicans chimp out

- nyc media goes batshit crazy trying to stem the tide - and loses even more credibility for their failed efforts

- ron paul's frbny/monetary system reality continued its steady growth pace

the one new thing i would say is the talk and consideration of import tariff -- THAT is a big deal. until 2016 it was in the same camp as holocaust denial -- shouted down by every nyc pawn and brainwashed tard. tariff has gained millions of supporters....and it is EXACTLY what the US needs. the system that was in place before the duals made their big move 100 years ago -

[singular_me]

give it a rest... wait for the automation and robotics take over THEN we talk again

You are missing the point: in a money-free society, there is NO centralization, no central government. Voluntarism must take over. Or we just get much or the same, even worse, regardless of the premise if the latter doesnt leave out centralization.

You are a statist. And there lies the flaw in your reasoning. Resource based economies can only be positive without centralization.

Nobody will ever get rich if behaving ethically and morally from something Nature gives away for FREE. Monetizing knowledge is what causes social classes, and provides slaves for the top. Nature will forever remain an UNbeatable a zero-sum game. Obeying the laws of Nature is all we can do. Nobody will ever profit from the Gift of Life, and this is where the NWO gets us at every street corner. The NWO operates on the metaphysical level and spiritual vampirism.

33 degree mason francis bacon tells us the TRUTH right there: to command nature, one must first obey Her. Masons command Nature because they know they capitalize on a flaw, which is materialism.

so the centralized future of money will go along with a PM driven mad max economy or universal income.

The problem that you have, like many others, is that your mindset is frozen when conceiving that massive joblessness waves that will change the way we regard money in a big way. There wont be any jobs and they will never come back. The more knowledge the less materialism. Those trends are exponential and immutable laws.

free markets have never existed because they cannot exist but on paper. As soon as money enters the game, it twists the minds to no end. Hoarding is the big obstacle because it is what causes collusion... the flaw is inherent.

You want a government and I do not... we cannot agree, the premises are opposite.


EDIT
As long as people do not understand that materialism is the enemy of freedom, nothing will change. It can only make people fearful of losing what they have (they identify themselves to their possessions which eventually will have to be left behind) and this is why they do not really care when told that we dump 225 trillion metric tons of plastic in the oceans early or that almost 7million africans died for coltan which is needed for any electromic devices, or that organ trafficking skyrockets... they canNOT care because if they ever did, we'd have a market crash tomorrow. But the crash is coming. All this because monetarism makes people shortsighted and keep them in a state of **fear**

There is nothing to fear but our own limited materialistic perceptions, how many times Jesus tells us this in the bible ???

as a matter of fact, now it is rather blatant that we cannot save the planet without losing everything, that a giant crash must and will occur. That is where evil lurks... either we get it or not.

Truth destroys and Lie self-destructs... only a thin grey line separates both. Those who drafted the bibical revelation, the rapture, were geniuses... same effects, two interpretations. Wait and see now.




I am not, as there is no such thing as a "universal income". Why not call it what it is? Universal theft by the state to provide for those who do not or will not provide for themselves.


Materialism has its faults, and many people are blinded and owned by the things that they buy to fill some form of self worth. But your not even bothering to look at the problem. Is it materialism that drives this behavior or the lack of freedom that drives materialism?

[Ares]

give it a rest... wait for the automation and robotics take over THEN we talk again

Lady I work at one of the companies that is driving Artificial Intelligence and robotics. I see it first hand and know what is coming.


You are missing the point: in a money-free society, there is NO centralization, no central government. Voluntarism must take over. Or we just get much or the same, even worse, regardless of the premise if the latter doesnt leave out centralization.

No, you are projecting and it is you that is missing the point. There is no society without a medium of exchange. There will NEVER be voluntarism because there are jobs that need to be done and machines at this point in time absolutely cannot do them because it requires complex decisions. If you can't even convince a board of a few hundred on the merits of voluntarism how exactly do you think this fantasy is going to play out in civilization as a whole? Still can't see the picture for what it is can you? Or does it stand in stark contrast to the bullshit you're preaching?


You are a statist. And there lies the flaw in your reasoning. Resource based economies can only be positive without centralization.

LMAO Yeah I'm a statist :rolleyes: Ask anyone here who has had to debate me on statism. You are ignorant of me and my views as well as ignorant in what you preach as it flies in the face of that remarkably difficult obstacle called REALITY. You should visit it sometime, and and come to grips with your delusion.


Nobody will ever get rich if behaving ethically and morally from something Nature gives away for FREE. Monetizing knowledge is what causes social classes, and provides slaves for the top. Nature will forever remain an UNbeatable a zero-sum game. Obeying the laws of Nature is all we can do. Nobody will ever profit from the Gift of Life, and this is where the NWO gets us at every street corner. The NWO operates on the metaphysical level and spiritual vampirism.

Now you're just off in a tangent spewing bullshit. Humans monetize everything nature provides. The minerals you use to post this shit in this blog was mined out of various sources across the planet, collected, refined, processed and built to provide a medium for you to preach this nonsense. Are you going to mine, refine, and produce a laptop, cellphone etc for free? How the fuck do you expect somebody else too? Lady have you even ever been in a mine? Who the hell is going to volunteer to go down miles underneath the earth in sometimes scorching heat and humidity? You honestly expect someone to VOLUNTEER to put their life in danger? Are you fucking kidding me? You're lost in your own fantasy.


33 degree mason francis bacon tells us the TRUTH right there: to command nature, one must first obey Her. Masons command Nature because they know they capitalize on a flaw, which is materialism.

And I asked you again, which like everything else you talk around the answer and never answer the question directly. Is it materialism that is the problem, or the lack of freedom that causes materialism?


so the centralized future of money will go along with a PM driven mad max economy or universal income.

And who exactly is this centralized entity that will ensure a "universal income"? You're hilarious, calling me a statist, yet calling for a centralized society that distributes a "universal income". You're spewing so much bullshit here, I have to wear waders just to wade through all of the bullshit in your posts. You are a classical projectionist, calling me a statist yet in the same post calling for the creation of a centralized entity to promote and distribute a "universal income". You're so full of shit.


The problem that you have, like many others, is that your mindset is frozen when conceiving that massive joblessness waves that will change the way we regard money in a big way. There wont be any jobs and they will never come back. The more knowledge the less materialism. Those trends are exponential and immutable laws.

The problem that you have is you live in a fucking fantasy world of your own making. I have asked you REPEATEDLY with not a single answer. Why would someone VOLUNTEER their knowledge, time, skills, and land to grow food to provide for society. You have NEVER answered that one question that provides the very foundation of your fantasy. Like I said earlier, if you can't even convince a handful of people on a board of a couple hundred, how exactly are you ever going to transform billions of Individuals to take part in this lunacy?


free markets have never existed because they cannot exist but on paper. As soon as money enters the game, it twists the minds to no end. Hoarding is the big obstacle because it is what causes collusion... the flaw is inherent.

Without a medium of exchange to exchange value from different skills, knowledge and products you do not have a society. Where is innovation, ambition, and self improvement in your fantasy? Because history has shown us that when man kind has all that it needs, ambition and innovation cease. History has proven your bullshit fantasy a failure again and again and again no matter who tries it. Individuality is a funny thing, it stands in stark contrast with the collective. AS IT SHOULD. When a society demands voluntarism you are nothing more than a slave to society. You promote slavery, as long as society is dictating the rules. You're just too much of a coward to call it slavery. Without individual ambition, and innovation taken into context, those who are smarter than you, more ambitious than you will be miserable. But as long as you the happy dullards are content that's a small price to pay right?


You want a government and I do not... we cannot agree, the premises are opposite.

You're so full of shit, you just called for the creation of an entity to promote and distribute a "universal income" That's called a government. You're too much of a coward to call it what it is. A government with a populous of slaves. That is EXACTLY what you called for.



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As long as people do not understand that materialism is the enemy of freedom, nothing will change. It can only make people fearful of losing what they have (they identify themselves to their possessions which eventually will have to be left behind) and this is why they do not really care when told that we dump 225 trillion metric tons of plastic in the oceans early or that almost 7million africans died for coltan which is needed for any electromic devices, or that organ trafficking skyrockets... they canNOT care because if they ever did, we'd have a market crash tomorrow. But the crash is coming. All this because monetarism makes people shortsighted and keep them in a state of **fear**

Says the individual who has nothing and I believe is jealous and envious of those around her who has made different decision to acquire wealth. So now you equate all wealth as bad, since your poor decisions netted you little to nothing in personal assets. Monetarism has existed in one form or another since the beginning of time. You might as well come to grips that not you or anyone is going to change that. Stop buying and spreading the bullshit of fantasy. You need to learn to live in that place the rest of us see and live everyday called reality.


There is nothing to fear but our own limited materialistic perceptions, how many times Jesus tells us this in the bible ???

as a matter of fact, now it is rather blatant that we cannot save the planet without losing everything, that a giant crash must and will occur. That is where evil lurks... either we get it or not.

Truth destroys and Lie self-destructs... only a thin grey line separates both. Those who drafted the bibical revelation, the rapture, were geniuses... same effects, two interpretations. Wait and see now.

We've been "waiting and seeing" for over 2,000 years. Yet time and society still marches on proving you all that preach the end times as fools. Watch and see.

[Twisted Titan]

The problem that you have, like many others, is that your mindset is frozen when conceiving that massive joblessness waves that will change the way we regard money in a big way. There wont be any jobs and they will never come back. The more knowledge the less materialism. Those trends are exponential and immutable laws.


The problem that you have is you live in a fucking fantasy world of your own making. I have asked you REPEATEDLY with not a single answer. Why would someone VOLUNTEER their knowledge, time, skills, and land to grow food to provide for society. You have NEVER answered that one question that provides the very foundation of your fantasy. Like I said earlier, if you can't even convince a handful of people on a board of a couple hundred, how exactly are you ever going to transform billions of Individuals to take part in this lunacy?




I remember a good while ago she decided to pack up and live in the socialist paradise of a commune of sorts........ she posted a few pictures of hereself doing doing various chores on the land...she was lauded by forum members of being a free spirit and living the truth of her dreams.

Then something happened...

Their was significant problems in the commune of brotherly love and it was prudent that free spirit moved on to the next great adventure of her life in pursuit of the divine feminine using Geo-mancy and full integration with the flower of life

[cheka.]

socialism looks great on paper....but fatal flaw - it TOTALLY ignores human nature. the ignorant college kidz still fall for same trite diatribe pushed by their commie profs, so it has that going for it

also gets support from adult losers -- who advocate for their own benefit - take from joe wage slave and give my fat lazy ass free food

[Twisted Titan]

socialism looks great on paper....but fatal flaw - it TOTALLY ignores human nature. the ignorant college kidz still fall for same trite diatribe pushed by their commie profs



I feel for the kids........... they are just babies ..... they cant argue the finer points of things
Couple this with the fact that professors have dam near dictatorial powers and love to shoot bolts of lighting from their mighty pen from behind their Ivory throne

The truth is.you are better off going to trade school , rather than a 4 year...in less then 16 months on average you will have a skill that will put food on the table in a vital industry

[Ares]

socialism looks great on paper....but fatal flaw - it TOTALLY ignores human nature. the ignorant college kidz still fall for same trite diatribe pushed by their commie profs



I feel for the kids........... they are just babies ..... they cant argue the finer points of things
Couple this with the fact that professors have dam near dictatorial powers and love to shoot bolts of lighting from their mighty pen from behind their Ivory throne

The truth is.you are better off going to trade school , rather than a 4 year...in less then 16 months on average you will have a skill that will put food on the table in a vital industry

It also ignores ambition, and individuality. Maybe some people desire and require some form of virtual collective to function. But for strong willed, independent individuals such a system as akin to slavery and will ALWAYS be viewed as slavery.

Free Market capitalism for all it's faults still has the best road map for harnessing individuality, ambition and self-improvement as it provides a profit motive for doing so.

[aeondaze]

I've been saying for years now this poster glaring delusions are dangerous and possibly deliberate misinformation from her "pyramids are tens of thousands of years old" to "sacred geometry and the electrical universe" sillyness, finally now do we some definative movement against these absurdities!

[singular_me]

yes I know it pisses ^^many^^ people off when saying that nature is a zero-sum game and that trying to override her rules is futile. Then the NWO is here to stay

nope what I am telling you about is this knowledge that allows to manipulate the masses and herd society

and yes, I absolutely believe that humans do not need the incentive of money to work... the carrot and the stick. I have told you this several times, yet you keep saying that I do not answer your question straightly. I REJECT the darwinism mode for humans as a major deception.

And this is not just my opinion... there are plenty of links on the internet talking of the paradigm shift coming because eventually jobs will not, NEVER, come back

RIP money or electronic universal income and PMs for the underground economy and mad max lifestyle

and yes, I am of the opinion that monetarism is the power tool of the state. So anybody supporting monetarism is supporting the state. 5000 years of much of the same, yet you claim it can be used differently. I just beg to differ. And I do not care if this makes you even more upset and say that I am full off $%#@

You do not understand the metaphysics of the NWO nor that of Nature. When I heard of all this the very first time, I said: um-um interesting, yeah it makes sense now... while you cannot make sense of it. But I am not alone and more people are joining the rank of voluntarism - and faster than you think.

Monetarism will never resolve the impasse the world is fast approaching. I'd suggest "the revolution of the mind" by james corbett and "the construct" by neil cramer on youtube. Both really expand the thinking and explain why all paradigm end in full crunch collapse, tearing apart societies in their wake because most people are unable to imagine the end of the paradigm, which of course plays out in favor of the death cult because they know that profits are a deadly fantasy.

Enough of this catch 22 which can only capitalize on destruction.





And I asked you again, which like everything else you talk around the answer and never answer the question directly. Is it materialism that is the problem, or the lack of freedom that causes materialism?

The problem that you have is you live in a fucking fantasy world of your own making. I have asked you REPEATEDLY with not a single answer. Why would someone VOLUNTEER their knowledge, time, skills, and land to grow food to provide for society. You have NEVER answered that one question that provides the very foundation of your fantasy. Like I said earlier, if you can't even convince a handful of people on a board of a couple hundred, how exactly are you ever going to transform billions of Individuals to take part in this lunacy?


And I asked you again, which like everything else you talk around the answer and never answer the question directly. Is it materialism that is the problem, or the lack of freedom that causes materialism?


Without a medium of exchange to exchange value from different skills, knowledge and products you do not have a society. Where is innovation, ambition, and self improvement in your fantasy? Because history has shown us that when man kind has all that it needs, ambition and innovation cease. History has proven your bullshit fantasy a failure again and again and again no matter who tries it. Individuality is a funny thing, it stands in stark contrast with the collective. AS IT SHOULD. When a society demands voluntarism you are nothing more than a slave to society. You promote slavery, as long as society is dictating the rules. You're just too much of a coward to call it slavery. Without individual ambition, and innovation taken into context, those who are smarter than you, more ambitious than you will be miserable. But as long as you the happy dullards are content that's a small price to pay right?

We've been "waiting and seeing" for over 2,000 years. Yet time and society still marches on proving you all that preach the end times as fools. Watch and see.

[Ares]

yes I know it pissed many people off when saying that nature is a zero sum game and that trying to override her rules is futile.

not grasping that, like I said, then the NWO is here to stay

No, not pissed off at all. Just surprised anyone can really be that short sighted and ignorant.

But believe whatever you want if it helps you maintain your delusions of a volunteer society that will NEVER manifest.

[singular_me]

indeed electric universe revolutionizing physics... Pi and phi found all over in nature are silliness... and that today we are STILL incapable to build a copycat of the great pyramid, with all the technology that we have, another silliness ;D

do you still believe that the vaccines are harmless?

when I read you, I hate to think that way, but maybe humans deserve what is happening...


I've been saying for years now this poster glaring delusions are dangerous and possibly deliberate misinformation from her "pyramids are tens of thousands of years old" to "sacred geometry and the electrical universe" sillyness, finally now do we some definative movement against these absurdities!

[singular_me]

one thing TT: centralization IS socialism/fascism, and it is what we have had for millennia...

decentralization + money free cannot be socialism. Money is the tool for centralization. Money makes collusion unpreventable. Why fighting something one cannot win?



socialism looks great on paper....but fatal flaw - it TOTALLY ignores human nature. the ignorant college kidz still fall for same trite diatribe pushed by their commie profs



I feel for the kids........... they are just babies ..... they cant argue the finer points of things
Couple this with the fact that professors have dam near dictatorial powers and love to shoot bolts of lighting from their mighty pen from behind their Ivory throne

The truth is.you are better off going to trade school , rather than a 4 year...in less then 16 months on average you will have a skill that will put food on the table in a vital industry

[singular_me]

please ares, do you really think that the world can produce enough wealth to clean up the deadly planetary pollution now?

My guess is that such an action would swallow up all the corporate profits and beyond -- if done ethically without causing another massive credit induction?

well that was for sure shortsighted to embrace "the sky is the limit" mantra when referring to profits for decades long



No, not pissed off at all. Just surprised anyone can really be that short sighted and ignorant.

But believe whatever you want if it helps you maintain your delusions of a volunteer society that will NEVER manifest.

[Ares]

please ares, do you really think that the world can produce enough wealth to clean up the deadly planetary pollution now?

Nope, and volunterism hippie bullshit isn't going to clean it up either. You're fooling yourself if you believe otherwise. Stop getting mad when others aren't consuming the bullshit you're trying to feed.


My guess is that such an action would swallow up all the corporate profits and beyond -- if done ethically without causing another massive credit induction?

Instead of bitching and moaning and being completely batshit crazy and delusional, how about you INNOVATE a machine or process to do just that? My guess is you do not have the intelligence, skill, talent, or fortitude to do it and just like the other lazy parasites rely on others to do the work FOR YOU. Which is why you buy into such a fantasy.


well that was for sure shortsighted to embrace "the sky is the limit" mantra when referring to profits for decades long

Says the person who was asked to leave a commune... LOL

[cheka.]

sing - the planet is safe. why are you so worried about the humans? they are evil and deserve to die. with or without them the earth is safe. earth will take a rock and and generate all new life (again). right?

it will be cool to have dinos roaming the land again....and think about the trillions of barrels of oil they will produce for the next humans

time for a reset. help reset the earth -- ask for the plastic bags at the grocery store and push that ford festiva up to 70 mph on the highway

[singular_me]

I am not mad... you are.

Voluntarism didnt cause the giant mess we are in that's for sure but following the money.

ohh yeah, thats the talmudists and the masons, well they only are part of the equation as they harvest the nasty effects of a deception/lie embedded in a monetary premise to start with that makes people believe that they are what they possess and which herds masses easily.

I am not saying that voluntarism is going to fix everything but it is the best ever system for any society.

I cant even answer all your paragraphs because you and I fundamentally diverge on:
1) BIOLOGY: darwin, the theory of the fittest is the most deadly farce, agenda 21 proves it.
2) SOCIOLOGY/PHILOSOPHY: there is no soft version of statism, all lead to the same result, the hijacking of humanity.
3) METAPHYSICS the purpose of life is to understand the act of creation and preparing oneself to reunite with the Creator at death.
4) ECONOMICS: problems and conflicts will forever remain way more profitable (and that alone makes the case against money), also mainly why the ecosystem of the planet is getting worse by the day and the world is bankrupt. Money is antagonist to #1, 2, and 3

so yeah, plz continue to label what I say BS. I am telling things how they are and talking of immutable principles that have been described hundreds years ago and which should be taught in elementary schools.

I am not bitching just planting data to challenge everything that the educational system has led to believe. All we think we know is wrong, so again, WHY supporting the same harmful concepts?

The carrot and the stick have done enough damages.

EDIT:
I have a dozen pro-PMs analyses (6-10p each) online and when I happen to reread them, I am shaking my head in disbelieve for having supported austrian economics for 15 years. I made a complete U-turn when learning about the Forces in the universe we cannot alter and which monetarism tricks us into thinking that we actually can. Monetarism cannot bend those Laws because metaphysics rules everything. Life is spiritual in essence. If this is not grasped, voluntarism will never see the day.

Observing the state of the planet and any PMs bugs waiting to get rich on the mother of all the cataclysms (profiting on despair), is very discombobulating to say the least. Because it is the same mindset that led us to the precipice.

one advice: anybody profiting from the crash has to be ready to help anybody voluntarily... Nature's zero-sum game will be accurate -- more than ever. And this holds true for everybody, even those unable to buy PMs. But darwin has brainwashed so many that riots and marshall law is more than likely.



Nope, and volunterism hippie bullshit isn't going to clean it up either. You're fooling yourself if you believe otherwise. Stop getting mad when others aren't consuming the bullshit you're trying to feed.



Instead of bitching and moaning and being completely batshit crazy and delusional, how about you INNOVATE a machine or process to do just that? My guess is you do not have the intelligence, skill, talent, or fortitude to do it and just like the other lazy parasites rely on others to do the work FOR YOU. Which is why you buy into such a fantasy.



Says the person who was asked to leave a commune... LOL

[Ares]

I am not mad... you are.

LOL I'm over here laughing at you. How can I be mad?


Voluntarism didnt cause the giant mess we are in that's for sure but following the money.

That's because Voluntarism doesn't exist lady. That's like saying the Easter Bunny didn't cause the mess we are in. :rolleyes:
No sense of logic in any of your bullshit posts. Just one happy finger pointing rant after another.


ohh yeah, thats the talmudists and the masons, well they only are part of the equation as they harvest the nasty effects of a deception/lie embedded in a monetary premise to start with that makes people believe that they are what they possess and which herds masses easily.

:rolleyes:

Blah blah blah, all money bad because I made bad decisions in life, blah blah blah if I can't have any neither should you and should all volunteer to provide for society (aka me and other lazy poor decision making people).


I am not saying that voluntarism is going to fix everything but it is the best ever system for any society.

It's never going to fix anything, because no one in their right mind is going to volunteer to do dirty dangerous and sometimes disgusting work because they WANT too. That for some reason hasn't clicked with you. Are you just dense or are you really this short sighted?


I cant even answer all your paragraphs because you and I fundamentally diverge on:
1) BIOLOGY: darwin, the theory of the fittest is the most deadly farce, agenda 21 proves it.
2) SOCIOLOGY/PHILOSOPHY: there is no soft version of statism, all lead to the same result, the hijacking of humanity.
3) METAPHYSICS the purpose of life is to understand the act of creation and preparing oneself to reunite with the Creator at death.
4) ECONOMICS: problems and conflicts will forever remain way more profitable (and that alone makes the case against money), also mainly why the ecosystem of the planet is getting worse by the day and the world is bankrupt. Money is antagonist to #1, 2, and 3

Bullshit, you haven't answered a SINGLE question that has been asked of you on how this fantasy will play out. You still have NEVER even answered how a farmer who has the land, knowledge, and skill to grow food for society and will volunteer all of that for free. How exactly do you see that working in your fantasy? Since you couldn't or wouldn't answer any of the previous questions what makes you think I'm going to believe any of the bullshit excuses you just put forward now? Lady you are a con artist, and a lazy one at that.


so yeah, plz continue to label what I say BS. I am telling things how they are and talking of immutable principles that have been described hundreds years ago and which should be taught in elementary schools.

I will, because all you preach is bullshit. Human nature is much more diverse and cannot and will not be restrained by some bullshit fantasy that doesn't and will never work outside of your own head. You have yet to answer how anyone with ambition will succeed in a society that deems them "volunteers" i.e. SLAVES. You promote slavery, like I said previously you're just too much of a coward to label it correctly.


I am not bitching just planting data to challenge everything that the educational system has led to believe. All we think we know is wrong, so again, WHY supporting the same harmful concepts?

You are bitching, because you bring it up time and again and believe that somehow "voluntarism" is going to magically fix it, yet have no idea how you'll ever implement voluntarism, let alone how it's actually going to clean up the planet. :rolleyes:


The carrot and the stick have done enough damages.

LOL and you say you're promoting something different. HA HA HA Come folks, volunteer for my fantasy and we'll help provide for each other. Innovation, ambition? well fuck you that has no place in my society.

You're a lost cause, lost in your own delusions.

[Twisted Titan]

and yes, I absolutely believe that humans do not need the incentive of money to work... the carrot and the stick. I have told you this several times, yet you keep saying that I do not answer your question straightly. I REJECT the darwinism mode for humans as a major deception.



You can reject it all you like.....


You are also free to reject that flapping your arms doesn't mean you can fly.

But You can Test The Truth Of That (Cause its What We Are All After right? ) Atop The Roof Of The Nearest Building And See How That Works Out For You.

[Neuro]

indeed electric universe revolutionizing physics... Pi and phi found all over in nature are silliness... and that today we are STILL incapable to build a copycat of the great pyramid, with all the technology that we have, another silliness ;D

What do we need a "copycat of the great pyramid" for? They seem rather large and clumsy... oh yeah the extraterrestrials needed them for navigation or sumthin... ;D

[singular_me]

fantastic, the more think this way the more peace becomes achievable.


I REJECT the darwinism mode for humans as a major deception.

[Neuro]

fantastic, the more think this way the more peace becomes achievable.

And you can FLY Goldie!