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7th trump
1st January 2017, 09:00 PM
https://youtu.be/3O8Jt0Ccizc

Thought this was very very interesting. SingularMe this will go along with some of the stuff you post and answer a lot you dont know. Maybe even clear up some of your confusion.

Note the pine cone and the pattern you see in this magnetic 3d viewer.

Horn
1st January 2017, 11:20 PM
tagged for inspection

vacuum
1st January 2017, 11:38 PM
Pretty interesting video, thanks.

Neuro
2nd January 2017, 01:54 AM
Yes, very interesting!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1nv0KlbHDM&feature=share

Neuro
2nd January 2017, 02:41 AM
I must say there is an attractiveness to his repulsive arrogance.

Unified theory of everything explained in less than 15 minutes?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KooPsEE7E-Q&feature=share

osoab
2nd January 2017, 03:15 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O8Jt0Ccizc

Thought this was very very interesting. SingularMe this will go along with some of the stuff you post and answer a lot you dont know. Maybe even clear up some of your confusion.

Note the pine cone and the pattern you see in this magnetic 3d viewer.

Nothing in that proves ball earth. Neat vid though.

Bigjon
2nd January 2017, 05:15 AM
I have to wonder about his magical theory 1/phi to exp neg 3.

Seems basic math tell me that x to exp neg 3 equals 1/x cubed and 1/ over 1/ over x cubed equals x cubed.

mystery to me, what the hell is he smoking?

PHI must be a vector quantity?

palani
2nd January 2017, 06:16 AM
In all of my college courses I never had a professor with that many tats (or any tats at all for that matter). Divine revelation frequently comes to those who smoke dope.

vacuum
2nd January 2017, 06:42 AM
Seems basic math tell me that x to exp neg 3 equals 1/x cubed and 1/ over 1/ over x cubed equals x cubed.

You are correct, I wonder why he writes it that way as well.

There could be valid reasons, maybe its to show the structure of something that would otherwise not be apparent.

vacuum
2nd January 2017, 06:56 AM
This guy's videos has some striking similarities to The Primer Fields videos.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EPlyiW-xGI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NogyJ0k8Kw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpI6ikj1G-s

Neuro
2nd January 2017, 07:08 AM
I have to wonder about his magical theory 1/phi to exp neg 3.

Seems basic math tell me that x to exp neg 3 equals 1/x cubed and 1/ over 1/ over x cubed equals x cubed.

mystery to me, what the hell is he smoking?

PHI must be a vector quantity?

It would be correct if it is (1/Phi)exp-3 that would be equal to Phi exp3=~4.17 . However 1/Phi exp-3=~0.853

vacuum
2nd January 2017, 07:15 AM
Wolframalpha says they're the same:

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=1%2F%28golden+ratio%29^-3 (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=1%2F%28golden+ratio%29^-3)

Interestingly its also equivalent to 2+sqrt(5).

Neuro
2nd January 2017, 07:22 AM
Wolframalpha says they're the same:

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=1%2F%28golden+ratio%29^-3 (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=1%2F%28golden+ratio%29^-3)

It's because your input is incorrect, Phi-3 isn't equal to 1/Phi3, just like square root of x (or x-2) isn't equal to 1/x2.

Bigjon
2nd January 2017, 07:24 AM
It would be correct if it is (1/Phi)exp-3 that would be equal to Phi exp3=~4.17 . However 1/Phi exp-3=~0.853

You lost me,bro.

If it's just a number any old x will do. absent some sort of vector or compound number it still reduces to x cubed.

Neuro
2nd January 2017, 07:28 AM
You lost me,bro.

If it's just a number any old x will do. absent some sort of vector or compound number it still reduces to x cubed.

Do you agree with this statement?


square root of x (or x-2) isn't equal to 1/x2.

Bigjon
2nd January 2017, 07:48 AM
Do you agree with this statement?

square root of x equals x exp 1/2;

x exp -2 equals 1/x exp 2 or 1/x squared

vacuum
2nd January 2017, 07:49 AM
sqrt(x) = x^(1/2)

x^-2 = 1/x^2


Roots are fractional exponents. Inverses are negative exponents.

Neuro
2nd January 2017, 07:54 AM
square root of x equals x exp i/2;

x exp -2 equals 1/x exp 2 or 1/x squared

Damn yes, sorry! [P]:X!! Brainghost... )0(
I'll retire to the smoking room now gentlemen!

vacuum
2nd January 2017, 08:04 AM
Very interesting device you can buy if you want to view these magnetic fields:
http://www.ferrocell.us/buy%20complete%20systems.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ygw-t7ncJU

Horn
2nd January 2017, 04:23 PM
ok I agree.

The tatooed lunatic has explained magnetism better than any physics book has.

Where barefoot hairy armpit mother nature takes us from here is unknown.

7th trump
2nd January 2017, 04:35 PM
ok I agree.

The tatooed lunatic has explained magnetism better than any physics book has.

Where barefoot hairy armpit mother nature takes us from here is unknown.

I dont like tats either but as far as a lunatic? I dont think hes a lunatic but someone very positive and well educated in the field of magnetism....hes firm in what he understands and knows.
On a side note...this guy just broke through a scientific barrier of huge proportion. He just changed science and unlocked the secrets of nature.
If you're intelligent enough to understand what he knows...theres nothing he or you cant do or accomplish.

He just blew past Nicola Tesla just from understanding magnitism...which is gravity...which is electricity.

I wonder how long his youtube channel will last before his research is hidden from public view like Tesla's work?
Anyone know a good program that allows you to record those video's?

Horn
2nd January 2017, 04:45 PM
He called himself a tatooed lunatic.

Even if he visited some electric universe forums he would most likely be shunned away for his monopole magnetism rants.

It will still take a long time for any revelation to sink in.

Bigjon
2nd January 2017, 06:43 PM
I dont like tats either but as far as a lunatic? I dont think hes a lunatic but someone very positive and well educated in the field of magnetism....hes firm in what he understands and knows.
On a side note...this guy just broke through a scientific barrier of huge proportion. He just changed science and unlocked the secrets of nature.
If you're intelligent enough to understand what he knows...theres nothing he or you cant do or accomplish.

He just blew past Nicola Tesla just from understanding magnitism...which is gravity...which is electricity.

I wonder how long his youtube channel will last before his research is hidden from public view like Tesla's work?
Anyone know a good program that allows you to record those video's?

Making claims and proving a thesis are two different things.

He claims gravity is a part of electromagnatism, but has he proven this?

7th trump
2nd January 2017, 07:05 PM
Making claims and proving a thesis are two different things.

He claims gravity is a part of electromagnatism, but has he proven this?

He has quite a few other video's where he does prove certain aspects of magnetism.

I do believe gravity is just an attribute of magnetism but at a higher voltage. And magnetism is used to make electricity and electricity is used to make magnetism.
The earth with its poles and equator is really nothing more than a magnet.

The surface of the earth is shaped by the magnetic flux between the poles

palani
2nd January 2017, 07:23 PM
and magnetism is used to make electricity and electricity is used to make magnetism.

if you can't fix it with a hammer,you've got an electrical problem

vacuum
2nd January 2017, 09:33 PM
Anyone know a good program that allows you to record those video's?

Use this website. Just paste the link to the youtube video into it.

http://keepvid.com/

Santa
2nd January 2017, 10:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNKtI7S3BTM

Horn
2nd January 2017, 11:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNKtI7S3BTM

and the guy's just a photographer, must've been 7ths post here...

Neuro
3rd January 2017, 12:01 AM
He has quite a few other video's where he does prove certain aspects of magnetism.

I do believe gravity is just an attribute of magnetism but at a higher voltage. And magnetism is used to make electricity and electricity is used to make magnetism.
The earth with its poles and equator is really nothing more than a magnet.

The surface of the earth is shaped by the magnetic flux between the poles
Where are the gravity "magnetic" poles? You get pretty much an equal gravity magnetic pull no matter where on earth you are, not so with magnetic magnetism...

7th trump
3rd January 2017, 03:14 AM
Where are the gravity "magnetic" poles? You get pretty much an equal gravity magnetic pull no matter where on earth you are, not so with magnetic magnetism...
Then how does a compass work "if" gravity magnetic lines are equal?
In the northern hemisphere the needle points to north, in the south it points to the south. On or at the (true middle) "equator" it doesnt point north or south.
If you look at a magnet and cut it in half it will always have a point in the middle where north and south poles blend together. And you can slice the magnet any number of times and it will always have a north, south and neutral middle in every piece no matter how big or thin.

Earth has the same properties....its nothing but a magnet.

Neuro
3rd January 2017, 04:23 AM
Then how does a compass work "if" gravity magnetic lines are equal?
In the northern hemisphere the needle points to north, in the south it points to the south. On or at the (true middle) "equator" it doesnt point north or south.
If you look at a magnet and cut it in half it will always have a point in the middle where north and south poles blend together. And you can slice the magnet any number of times and it will always have a north, south and neutral middle in every piece no matter how big or thin.

Earth has the same properties....its nothing but a magnet.

Are you pulled to the North Pole?

7th trump
3rd January 2017, 05:06 AM
Are you pulled to the North Pole?

Nope but metallic objects are.
However you are pulled to the center of the magnet (earth).

Neuro
3rd January 2017, 06:18 AM
Nope but metallic objects are.
However you are pulled to the center of the magnet (earth).
Gravity magnet has no poles?

monty
3rd January 2017, 07:02 AM
Gravity magnet has no poles?

Do you know of any metalic objects other than ferrous metals that are magnetic? I don't think gravity and magnetism are the same. Gravity pulls equally on non magnetic objects as it does on magnetic objects.

Neuro
3rd January 2017, 07:15 AM
Do you know of any metalic objects other than ferrous metals that are magnetic? I don't think gravity and magnetism are the same. Gravity pulls equally on non magnetic objects as it does on magnetic objects.

Yes I know that.

Further the Moon and Mars have gravity pull that is equivalent to their mass despite not having any magnetic fields, so it is obviously two different forces. However since we don't have any current understanding what creates gravity attraction (in relation to mass), one should at least entertain an electromagnetic origin of gravity fields.

Electricity and magnetism is characterized by polarity, where are the polar opposites of gravity sources? One appears to be center of mass (in this case center of Earth), where is the other pole?

Horn
3rd January 2017, 07:58 AM
Gravity magnet has no poles?

center and extents poles are traceable.

interior/exterior

there is relativity, imo. just not proven.

monty
3rd January 2017, 08:26 AM
Yes I know that.

Further the Moon and Mars have gravity pull that is equivalent to their mass despite not having any magnetic fields, so it is obviously two different forces. However since we don't have any current understanding what creates gravity attraction (in relation to mass), one should at least entertain an electromagnetic origin of gravity fields.

Electricity and magnetism is characterized by polarity, where are the polar opposites of gravity sources? One appears to be center of mass (in this case center of Earth), where is the other pole?


Actually I meant to direct that question to 7thTrump.

monty
3rd January 2017, 08:29 AM
Nope but metallic objects are.
However you are pulled to the center of the magnet (earth).

Other than iron what other metalic objects are magnetic?

palani
3rd January 2017, 08:50 AM
All matter is particles created from collapsed waves of pure energy.

All matter has gravity.

All matter has mass.

No energy has mass.

No energy has gravity.

Horn
3rd January 2017, 09:03 AM
all matter is magnetic.

Bigjon
3rd January 2017, 11:46 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TXlMTVjYxA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TXlMTVjYxA

Published on May 25, 2014
This show explains how electricity and magnetism work together to produce the force of Gravity and in so doing reveals the underlying science behind Newton's equation that he tried in vain to uncover; the reason why Gravity is proportional to the masses of two attracting objects, why it grows weaker in proportion to the square of the distance between them, the nature of the mysterious 'Gravitational Constant'--that continues to perplex researchers to this day--and why all objects accelerate to Earth at 32 feet per second.

It explains why the atom is comprised of 8 orbital shells and why the shells fill with electrons the way that they do.

It explains how permanent magnetism works at atomic level, the nature of so-called 'dark matter', the reason why spiral galaxies are spiral shaped, why the centre of the Earth is red-hot, and how the Earth's magnetic field is generated.

It explains how to generate gravity waves to produce unlimited quantities of free energy, and antigravity waves, to produce unlimited supplies of free hydrogen to power cars of the future. And it explains how antigravity waves can be used to cause the molecular disintegration of matter (phasor weapons).

It explains how the 28-day spinning Sun regulates fertility in females, how it determines human behaviour and personality (Astrology) and how it causes global-warming-and-global-cooling.
Maurice Cotterell returns to the beginning of 'time' to explain how the Universe began and reveals the first ever pictures of God, and Jesus, decoded from the treasures of ancient sun-worshipping civilizations.

In 1989 engineer and scientist Maurice Cotterell found a way of calculating the duration of long-term magnetic reversals on the Sun. Using this knowledge he was able to break the codes of ancient sun-worshipping civilizations, first the Mayas of Central America, those of Tutankhamun of Egypt, and the Viracochas' of South America, before cracking the codes of the Terracotta Warriors of China and the European Celts.

http://www.jamesswagger.com/ Interview by James Swagger with Guest Maurice Cotterell @ Capricorn Radio. James has also appeared on a number of Radio shows including Coast to Coast AM and Red Ice Radio.


Cotterell - How Gravity Works pdf (http://www.free-energy-info.com/Cotterell.pdf)
http://www.keelynet.com/images1/gravitycott.pngWonderful paper that will really get you thinking. Offers explanations for many science mysteries, worth your time! - JWDHow the discoveries were made - Scientists cannot understand why the positive protons in the centre of atoms simply do not spring apart - their positive charges repelling each other. In 1935 a researcher named Yukawa suggested that another substance or particle must exist to 'glue' the protons together in the nucleus, a kind of atomic 'velcro'.
But an objector to Yukawa pointed out that if indeed that were the case then there would have to be two types of velcro - a velvet-side and a hook-side (so to speak).
But another researcher pointed out that protons covered in the velvet-side would not stick to other protons covered with the hook-side. So another researcher suggested that there must be three types of velcro.
But then another researcher pointed out that for such a scheme to work there would have to be three types of each of the three types. Thus, the crazy field of Particle Physics was born.
In the decades that followed Particle Phyics were granted billions of dollars to find out what made the atom stable. Since then they have been searching for more than 300 imaginary sub-atomic particles. The Concise (Oxford) Science Dictionary comments; "...the whole elaborate theory is circumstantial...none of the smaller particles have ever been identified in experiments...the theory does not claim to have been verified."
Cotterell shows that none of the particles actually exist and, more importantly, that none are necessary. To explain why the atom does not spring apart he returns to firm ground and to the the pioneering work of Ernest Rutherford and James Chadwick of the 1930s and shows that by simply changing the perceived shape of the electron and the neutron the gravitational mechanism is exposed, explaining away the mysteries of the atom and many of the cosmos.
From the video; This show explains how electricity and magnetism work together to produce the force of Gravity and in so doing reveals the underlying science behind Newton's equation that he tried in vain to uncover; the reason why Gravity is proportional to the masses of two attracting objects, why it grows weaker in proportion to the square of the distance between them, the nature of the mysterious 'Gravitational Constant'--that continues to perplex researchers to this day--and why all objects accelerate to Earth at 32 feet per second.
It explains why the atom is comprised of 8 orbital shells and why the shells fill with electrons the way that they do. It explains how permanent magnetism works at atomic level, the nature of so-called 'dark matter', the reason why spiral galaxies are spiral shaped, why the centre of the Earth is red-hot, and how the Earth's magnetic field is generated.
It explains how to generate gravity waves to produce unlimited quantities of free energy, and antigravity waves, to produce unlimited supplies of free hydrogen to power cars of the future. And it explains how antigravity waves can be used to cause the molecular disintegration of matter (phasor weapons).
It explains how the 28-day spinning Sun regulates fertility in females, how it determines human behaviour and personality (Astrology) and how it causes global-warming-and-global-cooling. Maurice Cotterell returns to the beginning of 'time' to explain how the Universe began and reveals the first ever pictures of God, and Jesus, decoded from the treasures of ancient sun-worshipping civilizations.
In 1989 engineer and scientist Maurice Cotterell found a way of calculating the duration of long-term magnetic reversals on the Sun. Using this knowledge he was able to break the codes of ancient sun-worshipping civilizations, first the Mayas of Central America, those of Tutankhamun of Egypt, and the Viracochas' of South America, before cracking the codes of the Terracotta Warriors of China and the European Celts. - Cotterell - How Gravity Works pdf (http://www.keelynet.com/news/123116g.html)

palani
3rd January 2017, 01:44 PM
all matter is magnetic.
Aluminum is matter.

Aluminum is not magnetic.

Horn
3rd January 2017, 02:47 PM
Aluminum is matter.

Aluminum is not magnetic.

All matter is magnetic.

palani
3rd January 2017, 03:40 PM
All matter is magnetic.

Of course if you insist I must agree.

Hopefully you agree with me that in the same manner all music is country/western and all acting is marilyn monroe. All autos are Chevrolet and all ice cream is Ben & Jerry. Oh, and everything irrational is 7th_trump.

7th trump
3rd January 2017, 04:29 PM
Of course if you insist I must agree.

Hopefully you agree with me that in the same manner all music is country/western and all acting is marilyn monroe. All autos are Chevrolet and all ice cream is Ben & Jerry. Oh, and everything irrational is 7th_trump.

sure but just maybe high voltage has something to do with gravity. magnets dont have lightningbolts coming from them.
the earth is a magnet but unlike little hand held magnets earth has internal electricity. And magnets dojt have a core like the earth.

Horn
3rd January 2017, 04:47 PM
Of course if you insist I must agree.

Hopefully you agree with me that in the same manner all music is country/western and all acting is marilyn monroe. All autos are Chevrolet and all ice cream is Ben & Jerry. Oh, and everything irrational is 7th_trump.

All matter is magnetic.

None of those other things matter.

palani
3rd January 2017, 04:56 PM
the earth is a magnet

A huge part of the earth is above the Curie point.

palani
3rd January 2017, 04:57 PM
None of those other things matter.
The universe began when no matter looked into the mirror and saw my reflection.

7th trump
3rd January 2017, 08:25 PM
A huge part of the earth is above the Curie point.

Nobody has ever measured the temp deeper than 7.5 miles down........356 degree F. You have roughly 1992.5 miles to the center to go.
I dont think a few 1000 degrees matters when the magnet is earth itself.

And theres no scientific evidence it gets much hotter than 356F.
If you ask me I beleive the heat is from the magnetism of earth.

vacuum
3rd January 2017, 08:43 PM
I've been following the work of Myron Evans for a number of years, and I personally think he's got it figured out.

Very few have heard of him because almost no one understands the math, not because the theory is complicated, but that its just advanced math that only math graduates would know.

Basically all he did was extend general relativity to include torsion of space, in addition to curvature. The torsion represents electromagnetism.

Using equations derived from this, they can accurately predict the movement of galaxies without the need for dark matter or dark energy.

His website is here: http://aias.us/

If you want some nice summarized material, check out these:
http://aias.us/documents/miscellaneous/ECE-popular-en.pdf
http://aias.us/documents/miscellaneous/ECE-Eng-Model.pdf

There are many more documents here:
http://aias.us/index.php?goto=showPageByTitle&pageTitle=Publications

edit: oops, meant to put this in the other thread

Bigjon
3rd January 2017, 11:23 PM
The link and story I posted above is not something I believe.

The fact that the guy is trying to incorporate "dark matter" and the "big bang" is enough to put me off.
These are fudge factors that the quacks who call themselves scientists need to keep getting a paycheck from "our" phony corporation that calls itself our government.

The thing about his work that I do agree with is that he points out how the establishment is not interested in any solution that puts them out of a job. That is no one wants to find the cure for cancer, real mechanism for gravity, anything that upsets the applecart called science.

palani
4th January 2017, 02:03 AM
Nobody has ever measured the temp deeper than 7.5 miles down........356 degree F.

Gee ... if rock melts at 356 degrees then I might try to melt some in my oven today.

http://study.com/cimages/multimages/16/lavaflow.jpg

'Course this image is likely photo shopped. Have you actually ever SEEN rock that flows in rivers? So don't take this as evidence of anything significant.

7th trump
4th January 2017, 03:21 AM
Gee ... if rock melts at 356 degrees then I might try to melt some in my oven today.

http://study.com/cimages/multimages/16/lavaflow.jpg

'Course this image is likely photo shopped. Have you actually ever SEEN rock that flows in rivers? So don't take this as evidence of anything significant.

Good point, but the fact remains nobody has drilled more than 7.5 miles down having a 356 degree temp.
At the same time the question you cant get over is the earth is a magnet even at lava temperatures if rock is melted from pressure as the scientists claim.
I dont think the temp of earth is a result of pressure...I think the high temps are a result of magnetism.

Neuro
4th January 2017, 06:43 AM
Good point, but the fact remains nobody has drilled more than 7.5 miles down having a 356 degree temp.
At the same time the question you cant get over is the earth is a magnet even at lava temperatures if rock is melted from pressure as the scientists claim.
I dont think the temp of earth is a result of pressure...I think the high temps are a result of magnetism.
Unbelievable, you said "Good point" to Palani. However certainly it is a possibility that variations in suns magnetic field creates induction in Earths iron core, and it heats up, another proposed explanation is that the core of earth is made up of Uranium and the radioactive decay creates the heat...