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crimethink
6th January 2017, 04:35 PM
So, he has just admitted that the Obama regime and the DNC Politburo are angry only because whomever did the hacking RELEASED THE TRUTH TO THE PUBLIC. Period.


https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/melanie-hunter/clapper-russians-didnt-alter-vote-count-presidential-election

Director of National Intelligence James Clapper admitted to the Senate Armed Services Committee on Thursday that the Russians did not alter vote counts in the U.S. election.

"They did not change any vote tallies or anything of that sort," Clapper said under questioning from Chairman John McCain (R.-Ariz.)

Clapper further implicitly conceded that whatever the Russians might have done in making Democratic National Committee emails available to the public, the outcome of the U.S. presidential election nonetheless reflected "the choices" of American voters.

"We had no way of gauging the impact that—certainly the intelligence community cannot gauge the impact--it [Russian cyber activities] had on the choices the electorate made," Clapper told McCain.

Later in the hearing, Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark) asked Clapper, “the intelligence community says, ‘It would be extremely difficult for someone – including a nation-state actor to alter actual ballot counts or election results by cyberattack or intrusion,’ and you say to that earlier today as well that we have no evidence that vote tallies were altered or manipulated in anyway?”

“That’s correct,” Clapper said.

midnight rambler
6th January 2017, 05:17 PM
You just know this irritated the shit out of McCain.

Joshua01
6th January 2017, 05:20 PM
You just know this irritated the shit out of McCain.
McCain will climb the gallows someday

crimethink
6th January 2017, 05:54 PM
McCain will climb the gallows someday

I'd be satisfied if he was treated like Admiral Stockdale - a real Prisoner of War - was, during the time McCainiac gained weight in captivity (by helping the enemy). A good beating or two every day for months would suffice.

McCain's claim to be a "POW" is nothing but stolen valor. A huge lie. You're not a POW when you collaborate willingly.

crimethink
6th January 2017, 05:55 PM
You just know this irritated the shit out of McCain.

Good.

Neuro
6th January 2017, 05:58 PM
Never again will the result of US elections be questioned. Trump voters were probably the most sceptical prior to this debacle. Now they have all testified to the integrity of the US elections...

Ares
6th January 2017, 06:04 PM
I'd be satisfied if he was treated like Admiral Stockdale - a real Prisoner of War - was, during the time McCainiac gained weight in captivity (by helping the enemy). A good beating or two every day for months would suffice.

McCain's claim to be a "POW" is nothing but stolen valor. A huge lie. You're not a POW when you collaborate willingly.

There's a reason his nickname was "Song bird" while he was a "POW".

Atocha
6th January 2017, 06:57 PM
I'd be satisfied if he was treated like Admiral Stockdale - a real Prisoner of War - was, during the time McCainiac gained weight in captivity (by helping the enemy). A good beating or two every day for months would suffice.

McCain's claim to be a "POW" is nothing but stolen valor. A huge lie. You're not a POW when you collaborate willingly.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Stockdale

Thanks Crimethink. I learn something new every day. I never knew...

Joshua01
6th January 2017, 07:30 PM
Never again will the result of US elections be questioned. Trump voters were probably the most sceptical prior to this debacle. Now they have all testified to the integrity of the US elections...
I disagree. I believe there was a lot of cheating at the polls, the cheaters didn't account for the backlash from 'unlikely voters'

vacuum
6th January 2017, 07:35 PM
Both the intelligence reports this far have been garbage. Zero evidence has been presented to the public.

If they aren't going to present evidence, I ask that they GTFO. Their 'opinions' don't mean shit to me.

Cebu_4_2
6th January 2017, 08:12 PM
Don't matter 15 more days...

crimethink
6th January 2017, 10:09 PM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Stockdale

Thanks Crimethink. I learn something new every day. I never knew...

I'm not sure how old you are, so it may be "before your time." I was 21 at the time, and Admiral Stockdale was Ross Perot's running mate in the 1992 Presidential race. Not a politician or other polished liar by any means, but he still shined during the debate.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1w3FgB0Ohc

crimethink
6th January 2017, 10:12 PM
Both the intelligence reports this far have been garbage. Zero evidence has been presented to the public.

If they aren't going to present evidence, I ask that they GTFO. Their 'opinions' don't mean shit to me.

"It's classified."

That's the standard horseshit spewed when someone in "intelligence" has no evidence to give.

Atocha
7th January 2017, 05:53 AM
I'm not sure how old you are, so it may be "before your time." I was 21 at the time, and Admiral Stockdale was Ross Perot's running mate in the 1992 Presidential race. Not a politician or other polished liar by any means, but he still shined during the debate.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1w3FgB0Ohc

Ok, young un, lol. In 1992, I was 33 years old. To tell the truth, I did not see his debate. In fact, I didn't really pay attention to politics as I was working excessive hours for my then Family.

It is only now that I am older that I actually try to learn some history and stay up with current events. I actually hated history in high school. I do not like the MSM. I look at this forum and Drudge for 90 percent of my news.

That's why I like this forum. Persons like you and others here have a good grasp on things.

I do remember Ross Perot going off on George Bush, then Bush was elected president. I don't know what happened there's

I also remember Kennedy being assassinated. I was 4 years old, in day care, in Dallas watching Romper Room when the news broke in.

I also remember watching a Curtis Mathis black and white TV when they were pulling lottery numbers. I did not know what the deal was until everyone started crying. It was then when I learned it was numbers for boys to go to Viet Nam and the tears were for the boy next door. He didn't make it.

Enough of an old dog and his memories.

Cebu_4_2
7th January 2017, 09:11 AM
I do remember Ross Perot going off on George Bush, then Bush was elected president. I don't know what happened there's

I believe Perots daughter was going to be married and her life was threatened, that's when Perot dropped out.

monty
7th January 2017, 01:34 PM
Alex Jones says Obama and his porch monkey Jeh Johnson's DHS will overturn Trump's election.


http://youtu.be/orwKEhTPPx8

https://youtu.be/orwKEhTPPx8

Neuro
7th January 2017, 02:15 PM
Alex Jones says Obama and his porch monkey Jeh Johnson's DHS will overturn Trump's election.


http://youtu.be/orwKEhTPPx8

https://youtu.be/orwKEhTPPx8

It seems farfetched at this point that they would declare the elections illegal. But maybe they expect new elections shortly?...

However AJ has been hyperbole prone before...

crimethink
7th January 2017, 02:37 PM
Alex Jones says Obama and his porch monkey Jeh Johnson's DHS will overturn Trump's election.


http://youtu.be/orwKEhTPPx8

https://youtu.be/orwKEhTPPx8

Jonestown is getting more and more insane.

There isn't a fucking thing these Niggerboys can do. Trump's Electoral College vote is final. Only Congress itself can overturn the election - they chose not to - and the Marines will be removing the Nigger if he tries anything to prevent President Trump. At Noon on January 20th, Donald John Trump becomes the President. The Nigger has zero authority at High Noon that day.

In other words, shut the fuck up, Jones.

crimethink
7th January 2017, 02:38 PM
It seems farfetched at this point that they would declare the elections illegal. But maybe they expect new elections shortly?...

However AJ has been hyperbole prone before...

Hyperbole is not a strong enough word for Jonestown.

Deliberate disinformation. Outright lies. Those work much better.

Neuro
7th January 2017, 02:48 PM
Hyperbole is not a strong enough word for Jonestown.

Deliberate disinformation. Outright lies. Those work much better.

Come on his coolaid isn't to bad tasting... ;D

monty
7th January 2017, 03:17 PM
It seems farfetched at this point that they would declare the elections illegal. But maybe they expect new elections shortly?...

However AJ has been hyperbole prone before...

It amazes me how he can broadcast such horseshit.

crimethink
7th January 2017, 03:27 PM
It amazes me how he can broadcast such horseshit.

He is an entertainer, and his audience enjoys it. It makes them feel like "insiders." I hate to say it, but Jonestown has a few cult-members even here at GSUS.

monty
12th January 2017, 05:16 AM
This piece from the English language paper The Moscow Times claims Russian contact with Trump's Campaign. It does not address any hacking. Dated Nov. 10, 2016

https://themoscowtimes.com/news/foreign-ministry-confirms-contact-with-trumps-campaign-team-56080

Russian Foreign Ministry Confirms Contact With Trump's Campaign


Nov 10, 2016 — 13:43
Update: Nov. 10 2016 — 12:33





https://themoscowtimes.com/static/uploads/publications/2016/11/10/7214aed843394afbb29691d4b56d2f8d.jpg
AP/Evan Vucci


Russia's Foreign Ministry confirmed that it had contact with U.S. President-elect Donald Trump's campaign team prior to Tuesday's election.
Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov told journalists on Thursday that his ministry had such contacts during the campaign and would continue to maintain them afterward. When asked if Russia would try to intensify those contacts, Ryabkov said that it would depend on the situation and issues Russia faces.



Read about how Russians greeted Trump's victory (https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/inside-moscows-pro-trump-election-night-bash-56065)

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov expressed his hopes for better U.S.-Russia relations in a press conference following a meeting in Benin.

"We certainly hope that the relations between Russia and the United States, which are now experiencing a very, very unfavorable period, will improve and become normal, that meets the interests of our peoples and the interests of the entire international community," Lavrov said.

Read our analysis

monty
13th January 2017, 10:08 AM
An excerpt of a C-Span video of the Jan. 5 Armed Sevices Comittee hearing on foreign cyber threats to US
Comey "the FBI didn't do forensic". About 1 3/4 hour


http://youtu.be/dRX9F1Fit9A

https://youtu.be/dRX9F1Fit9A