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singular_me
9th January 2017, 06:16 AM
following Nature is always best

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Family Thrives In The Arctic Circle By Building Cob House Inside A Solar Geodesic Dome
Posted on January 8, 2017

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‘This geodesic dome home was made from recycled building materials, is outfitted with solar panel technology, and enables its hosts to grow food year-round.

Few people can handle the frigid temperatures of winter, let alone contemplate what it must be like to live in the Arctic Circle. However, one Norwegian family has managed to not only survive, but thrive, up North, and has done so in sustainable fashion.

Inhabitat reports that the Hjertefølger family has been living on Sandhornøya island in Norway since 2013, and has done so by living in a three-story cob home called the Nature House. Constructed from sand, water, clay, and other organic materials, the structure took just three weeks to build and is surrounded by a functional and solar geodesic dome.’

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http://www.naturalblaze.com/2017/01/cob-house-solar-geodesic-dome.html


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The DOM (E) geodesic home can be easily transported, is powered by the sun, captures rainwater, and is made from environmentally-friendly materials. What more could one want
Read More: http://www.trueactivist.com/this-eco-friendly-foldable-dome-home-is-the-perfect-all-season-camper/

http://www.trueactivist.com/this-eco-friendly-foldable-dome-home-is-the-perfect-all-season-camper/


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Spectrism
9th January 2017, 01:32 PM
Calling BS on this.


This geodesic dome home was made from recycled building materials, is outfitted with solar panel technology, and enables its hosts to grow food year-round.

Those windows and frames are "recycled building materials", as much as any other manufactured item uses recycled materials. Nearly all steel structures have a large component of recycled scrap steel. It sounds impressive but it means nothing.

Those 5 solar panels are not enough to power the house on minimal operation. Growing veggies year round would require extra lights & heating. They would need a battery bank of at least 32 deep cycle 6 volt batteries and 8 times that number of panels. I guarantee you they are running off propane, oil or grid electric power. Notice the picture of the snow covered windows. Almost no solar power on days like that.... and the dead of winter with 4 hour days makes this complete bullshit.

ximmy
9th January 2017, 01:37 PM
1000 years of combined technologies working together...,

even so, repairs & maintenance requires modern world industries and some money.

singular_me
9th January 2017, 01:44 PM
Norway is a pretty sunny country, those people could have enough batteries to power their dome several weeks in a row. The article doesnt say this but that doesnt mean that they just have 5 or 6 batteries like the ones I had in NM in the house I was housitting. And yes, in dec and jan we were tight if we had 1 cloudy day. if living in Norway, I am sure such parameters are taken into consideration.

as for recycled materials, I will speak about in june after attending an earthship biotecture seminar and workshops offering direct participation in construction projects

if the dome can prevent freezing temps at night, yes lots of greens can be grown. And I am sure it can/does.

crimethink
9th January 2017, 03:20 PM
following Nature is always best

Solar panels & plastic (etc.) are not natural.

This is:

http://images.wisegeek.com/igloo-against-blue-sky.jpg

crimethink
9th January 2017, 03:24 PM
Calling BS on this.



Those windows and frames are "recycled building materials", as much as any other manufactured item uses recycled materials. Nearly all steel structures have a large component of recycled scrap steel. It sounds impressive but it means nothing.

Those 5 solar panels are not enough to power the house on minimal operation. Growing veggies year round would require extra lights & heating. They would need a battery bank of at least 32 deep cycle 6 volt batteries and 8 times that number of panels. I guarantee you they are running off propane, oil or grid electric power. Notice the picture of the snow covered windows. Almost no solar power on days like that.... and the dead of winter with 4 hour days makes this complete bullshit.

If one needs an example of cognitive dissonance, one merely need look at the typical "environmentalist."

"One with nature"...along with electricity, fossil fuels, glass, plastics...

You don't have to be Leonardo DiCrapio to be a laughable hypocrite.

Spectrism
10th January 2017, 07:46 AM
Norway is a pretty sunny country, those people could have enough batteries to power their dome several weeks in a row. The article doesnt say this but that doesnt mean that they just have 5 or 6 batteries like the ones I had in NM in the house I was housitting. And yes, in dec and jan we were tight if we had 1 cloudy day. if living in Norway, I am sure such parameters are taken into consideration.

as for recycled materials, I will speak about in june after attending an earthship biotecture seminar and workshops offering direct participation in construction projects

if the dome can prevent freezing temps at night, yes lots of greens can be grown. And I am sure it can/does.

Typical panels of the size shown will harness about 300W. In one hour of GOOD sunlight, that is 300W-hours. Inverter and battery losses eat about 1,000 W-hours per day.
I have 16 deep cycle batteries that are 6V, 400 Amp-hour storage set up for a 48V inverter. These are fed by 20- 300W panels. In the summer I can harness more than 20,000W-hours. In the winter, I don't even use this for at least 2 months because the risk of snow and too low of power will drain my batteries to damage levels. I learned the hard way that solar is not dependable ALL the time and winter is a definite problem. A good winter day will only give me about 4,000 W-hours. Snow and/or heavy clouds and I get nothing.

I am not in the arctic circle. When I have a total non-productive day, my power is drained. For me to become more independent using only solar, I would have to nearly double my capacity (for winter). Summer time I can produce plenty of power for my needs.

singular_me
10th January 2017, 09:25 AM
I am going to drop them a note and if they reply I will post here their reply... if getting one

if this norwegian experiment does well 8 months out of 12 and that the rest of the year, 4 months total, they need a generator or two, and even 3, it STILL is a success for the artic circle. Sorry...

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CT strikes again... ;D

of course he has no ideas of what following with nature really means. And that there are houses made with recycled materials out there that REALLY work. Such as this one. One can stretch the meaning of working with nature quite much but to me it merely means: THE LESS POLLUTING and MOST EFFICIENT.

I am shaking my head in disbelief every time when thinking of the genius that invented plastic then of the 275 trillion metric tons of plastic waste we dump into the oceans each year. The absolute proof that the IQ doesnt mean anything.


http://earthship.com/


go to link and click on the images to enlarge http://earthship.com/blogs/earthship-designs/global-model-earthship/


On the desert mesa of New Mexico, miles from the nearest town of Taos (pop. 5,700), Star-Wars-like shelters rise from the earth, half-buried and covered in adobe. Called “Earthships” - brainchild of architect Mike Reynolds in the 1970s- they’re nearly completely self-sufficient homes: no electrical grid, no water lines, no sewer.

The Greater World Earthship Community, about 70 passive solar homes built from earth and trash on 633 acres, had a rough start; they were shut down as an illegal subdivision in 1997 and it took them 7 years to come to compliance. Though today, the county fully cooperates with Reynolds and his Earthship Biotecture operation to turn trash (tires, cans, glass bottles) into shelters and has even given them 2 acres to experiment with housing in anyway they like (they also provide their recycling).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efI77fzBgvg

Neuro
10th January 2017, 09:56 AM
Typical panels of the size shown will harness about 300W. In one hour of GOOD sunlight, that is 300W-hours. Inverter and battery losses eat about 1,000 W-hours per day.
I have 16 deep cycle batteries that are 6V, 400 Amp-hour storage set up for a 48V inverter. These are fed by 20- 300W panels. In the summer I can harness more than 20,000W-hours. In the winter, I don't even use this for at least 2 months because the risk of snow and too low of power will drain my batteries to damage levels. I learned the hard way that solar is not dependable ALL the time and winter is a definite problem. A good winter day will only give me about 4,000 W-hours. Snow and/or heavy clouds and I get nothing.

I am not in the arctic circle. When I have a total non-productive day, my power is drained. For me to become more independent using only solar, I would have to nearly double my capacity (for winter). Summer time I can produce plenty of power for my needs.

Why do you need so much electric? Do you heat water with it. Hairdryers? Washing machines, electric clothes drying cabinets? There should be many things you can do to reduce your electric requirements... and to really be able to weather a SHTF event, you should do it

Being above polar circle you wouldn't generate anything most days at least 1 month before and 1 month after midwinter. Sure you could power a few led lights and a couple of laptops/tablets/smartphones in the house for a long time with a big battery bank. I would imagine they use firewood for heating and cooking in the winter. Maybe do the laundry at the company they work at in the winter (actually you may not need to do that much laundry in the winter, as you use thin wool long johns and a thin layer wool shirt closest to the body, and the rest you don't need to wash much at all. Wool should be hand washed at low temp water.

crimethink
10th January 2017, 10:19 AM
CT strikes again...

of course he has no ideas of what following with nature really means.


When you live in a mud and grass hat - or an igloo - let me know.



One can stretch the meaning of working with nature quite much but to me it merely means: THE LESS POLLUTING and MOST EFFICIENT.


You "redefine" terms to fit your ideology.





I am shaking my head in disbelief every time when thinking of the genius that invented plastic then of the 275 trillion metric tons of plastic waste we dump into the oceans each year.


I don't dump shit in the ocean. Don't speak for me.

As for plastic, I suggest you immediately stop using and dispose of all plastic in your home. That includes your computer.




The absolute proof that the IQ doesnt mean anything.


While you're not smart enough to invent a polymer, and your kind are not smart enough to discard it properly, the folks who invented such things - which you love, as is proven by your insistence on using it - are not the stupid ones.

singular_me
10th January 2017, 10:26 AM
give me a break darling.... working with nature doesnt mean living in a igloo , otherwise I would be posting about igloos ;D

also dumping such an amount of plastic waste into the ocean will affect us all at some point... and we'll be all responsible for not speaking much sooner against this $%#@ genius invention, wanna bet?




When you live in a mud and grass hat - or an igloo - let me know.




You "redefine" terms to fit your ideology.





I don't dump shit in the ocean. Don't speak for me.

As for plastic, I suggest you immediately stop using and dispose of all plastic in your home. That includes your computer.




While you're not smart enough to invent a polymer, and your kind are not smart enough to discard it properly, the folks who invented such things - which you love, as is proven by your insistence on using it - are not the stupid ones.

Spectrism
10th January 2017, 10:56 AM
Why do you need so much electric? Do you heat water with it. Hairdryers? Washing machines, electric clothes drying cabinets? There should be many things you can do to reduce your electric requirements... and to really be able to weather a SHTF event, you should do it

Being above polar circle you wouldn't generate anything most days at least 1 month before and 1 month after midwinter. Sure you could power a few led lights and a couple of laptops/tablets/smartphones in the house for a long time with a big battery bank. I would imagine they use firewood for heating and cooking in the winter. Maybe do the laundry at the company they work at in the winter (actually you may not need to do that much laundry in the winter, as you use thin wool long johns and a thin layer wool shirt closest to the body, and the rest you don't need to wash much at all. Wool should be hand washed at low temp water.

In a SHTF scenario, I won't need many of the things I now have operating. Degraded mode will mean less power draw. What the solar power does is provide the ability to run the well pump & furnace in the winter. Lights could be added. In the summer it powers 2 refrig/ freezers and 2 full freezers, pool pump, dehumidifier, well pump, power tools. I don't sell power to the grid. It is totally separate from grid. When the grid goes down, I will press my system to its limits. Not sure where that is right now, but I suspect it is close to 28kw-hrs per day for much of summer months ( months).