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palani
23rd January 2017, 08:10 AM
Not that I am sympathetic with the defendants (although they are still innocent until their due process has gone its' course) but doesn't it seem like some rather selective cases bring up this issue?

"while the Bible is very important, it is not a law book in a court of law"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2017/01/23/father-son-duo-accused-of-rape-wants-only-law-book-that-truly-matters-at-trial-the-bible/?utm_term=.f49dfd214737


A father and son accused of raping a teenage girl over a three-year period and keeping her shackled in a basement have made it clear that they don’t have faith in the law or in the people who practice it.

When they face an Ohio jury as they defend themselves against criminal charges that carry long prison sentences, they will rely on one book: The Bible.

Timothy Ciboro and his son, Esten Ciboro, both of Toledo, are each charged with multiple counts of rape. The trial is scheduled to start this week, months after the girl, who is Timothy Ciboro’s stepdaughter, managed to unshackle herself and escape while her alleged abusers were gone, authorities said.

During a hearing Friday, the Ciboros made the unusual request of having access to the Bible, which they plan to cite as they defend themselves in front of a jury. The Bible, Esten Ciboro told a judge, is “the only law book that truly matters,” the Toledo Blade reported.

“There’s a great deal of strategy in Scripture and I use those strategies in everything I do,” Esten Ciboro told the judge, according to the Toledo Blade’s coverage of the hearing. “It’s a vital part of everything I do.”

Timothy Ciboro said he and his son intend to “use God’s holy word to ask questions, questions that we believe are absolutely vital to our case,” the paper reported.

[She beat her son with a hanger — and said Indiana’s religious freedom law gave her the right]

Lucas County Common Pleas Judge Linda Jennings has decided to allow the two to bring their Bible during the trial, but she told them that they can’t use the book to question witnesses.

“It’s the court’s opinion that while the Bible is very important, it is not a law book in a court of law,” Jennings said, according to the Toledo Blade.

The Ciboros are accused of sexually assaulting the girl over a period of three years, from 2012 to 2015. They are each charged with three counts of rape, endangering children and kidnapping. Timothy Ciboro, who faces two additional rape counts, is also accused of sexually assaulting the girl’s younger sibling during the same time period, the Toledo Blade reported.

In my opinion let 'em bring the bible into the court and when they are found guilty of any principle apply biblical punishment. I doubt if they would like the result.

Glass
25th January 2017, 12:34 AM
Courts used to apply laws that were according to the bible. Those applications were phased out as biblically styled laws were repealed and became unavailable to the courts. The reason being that certain groups wanted to perpetrate the acts without the biblical punishments coming back at them. Capital punishment comes to mind. 20 years hard labor for sodomy is another. Blasphemy could be another. Worship of demons.

brosil
25th January 2017, 05:44 AM
That first one is near me. It's not a good situation and I don't see them winning in court. They're fortunate that we have courts and prisons or it would be the rope for them.

Neuro
25th January 2017, 06:42 AM
That first one is near me. It's not a good situation and I don't see them winning in court. They're fortunate that we have courts and prisons or it would be the rope for them.

Good for them, bad for the world and especially their victims. At one point, especially with these types of heinous crimes we should judge the criminal not being human, and just kill them quickly as you'ld do with a dog that starts attacking children. The insanity argument that many of them gets off the hook with is terrible, and even when it is proven beyond reasonable doubt that they are guilty and condemned to death, the process of carrying out the execution almost always takes way more than 10 years, at incredible costs to society.