Bad Twitter day: Spicer tweets ‘his password,’ Trump caught using Gmail for POTUS

[JohnQPublic]

Bad Twitter day: Spicer tweets ‘his password,’ Trump caught using Gmail for POTUS (https://www.rt.com/viral/375209-spicer-tweet-delete/)

President Donald Trump and his press secretary, Sean Spicer, came under fire over Twitter after it was revealed the new administration was using Gmail for official accounts. Spicer was also trolled online after seemingly tweeting his pass codes, twice...

[crimethink]

The information was obtained via a Federal offense: falsely requesting the passwords of another user, which revealed the email address the reset would be sent to.

[Horn]

In other news Trump/Spicer think placing a 20% import Tax on mexican products will somehow get mexico to pay for the wall...


Trump calls for 20% import tax from Mexico to pay for border wall

Mexico will pay for the wall "one way or another," White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer said during the Thursday briefing. He announced plans to impose a 20 percent border tax on Mexican imports into the US.

Ildefonso Guajardo, Mexico's economy minister, said Thursday that US consumers would be left paying for the effects of the tax in the form of higher prices.


https://www.rt.com/usa/375218-trump-tax-mexico-wall/?utm_source=spotim&utm_medium=spotim_recirculation&spotim_referrer=recirculation

this bulb is dimmer than even i had imagined, and they wonder why the world is outpacing the U.S.

[Cebu_4_2]

In other news Trump/Spicer think placing a 20% import Tax on mexican products will somehow get mexico to pay for the wall...



https://www.rt.com/usa/375218-trump-tax-mexico-wall/?utm_source=spotim&utm_medium=spotim_recirculation&spotim_referrer=recirculation

this bulb is dimmer than even i had imagined, and they wonder why the world is outpacing the U.S.


Has a lot to do with bringing companies back. With a 20% tariff it will probably be cheaper to make on the USi side.

[Horn]

Has a lot to do with bringing companies back. With a 20% tariff it will probably be cheaper to make on the USi side.

Not sure about logistics cost, a wild guess is a Mexican gets around $1k month compared to $4k a month U.S.

any logistics get thrown out the window as negligible at that point, 20%tariff is just another tax insult to U.S. citizens carrying the bill for the wall, the money should come from draining the swamp.

[Neuro]

Not sure about logistics cost, a wild guess is a Mexican gets around $1k month compared to $4k a month U.S.

any logistics get thrown out the window as negligible at that point, 20%tariff is just another tax insult to U.S. citizens carrying the bill for the wall, the money should come from draining the swamp.

The main difference is in the salary of the manual labourer, which in most products crossing borders nowadays is a minor part of production cost (it is not a coincidence the 8 richest people of the world are worth more than the 50% poorest). US citizens will if nothing else get work building the wall, unless Trump decides to keep it below budget and before schedule by hiring illegals... ;D

[Neuro]

The main difference is in the salary of the manual labourer, which in most products crossing borders nowadays is a minor part of production cost (it is not a coincidence the 8 richest people of the world are worth more than the 50% poorest).

I got these numbers on manual labour costs on building a car in the US...

http://www.autonews.com/article/20151120/OEM01/151129988/gm-contract-may-yield-flat-per-vehicle-labor-costs-even-with-hourly
Labor costs per vehicle at GM will drop to $2,350 in 2019 from $2,374 in 2014, while Ford’s will rise almost $200 a vehicle to $2,401 and FCA’s jump to $2,500 from $1,771, she said. Hourly labor costs rise from $57 to $60 at Ford, from $55 to $60 at GM and from $47 to $56 at FCA, Dziczek said.

I saw somewhere else that the average price of a new car in the US is around $32k so labour costs are way less than 10% of retail. With a 20% tariff on import there is no way a car manufacturer would earn money by continuing to produce in Mexico for the US market, in fact it would make a lot of sense to move production from Mexico to US. I would imagine there is similar calculations for manufacturers of refrigerators and color TV's.

Now getting US congress to agree with this logic is an entirely different issue...

[Horn]

US citizens will if nothing else get work building the wall, unless Trump decides to keep it below budget and before schedule by hiring illegals... ;D

This could be the angle used to quell the "anti-racist gang" and why he is proceeding so fast upon building the wall. The news reports from wall construction will reveal a large percentage of Legal US/Mexicans finding work at the wall.

Small infrastructure booths along the wall with English courses towards U.S. citizenship (price inclusive "free lunch") will also be provided.

Honestly I thought draining the swamp were a better first move, I guess he is soo industrious he can multitask better than anyone?

[Carl]

In other news Trump/Spicer think placing a 20% import Tax on mexican products will somehow get mexico to pay for the wall...

this bulb is dimmer than even i had imagined, and they wonder why the world is outpacing the U.S.

The revenue from the import tariff will be their contribution. They pay the tariff first, then they mark up to cover. And people are left free to buy or not buy at the marked up price.

See how it works?

The U.S. isn't being "outpaced" by anyone, the U.S. been lied to and stolen from by a globalist cabal preaching the anti-economics of "free trade", like we owe the world our standard of living and must accept theirs in return.

[JohnQPublic]

I am a strong supporter of bringing manufacturing back to the US, or at the very least not using tax policy to encourage exporting manufacturing. Personally, I would rather have less cheap shit I don't really need from China or wherever and more Americans working.

[Horn]

Hourly labor costs rise from $57 to $60 at Ford, from $55 to $60 at GM and from $47 to $56 at FCA, Dziczek said.

Those must be U.S. hourly costs and Mexican total costs.

Fact remains in this economy nobody is going to hedge the bet to move all that existing manuf. capacity out of Mexico at 20% percent tariff. Sticker price will recede to accommodate, and financing add 10%. Along with all sorts of creative means to ensure a finished product is snapped together on the otherside. 1/2 a car be worth 0$

Its a fools game I see played out here in C.R. on a daily basis. Special trade deals setup between privateers and .gov that blow with the wind and highest bribe.

[Horn]

I am a strong supporter of bringing manufacturing back to the US, or at the very least not using tax policy to encourage exporting manufacturing. Personally, I would rather have less cheap shit I don't really need from China or wherever and more Americans working.

Smokey Bear says only you can buy American, any tariff deal from your governor will have the net effect of keeping you from manufacturing.

Cause a tariff is where the governor will draw his gains from, it will be insured to provide him for eternity.

[Neuro]

Those must be U.S. hourly costs and Mexican total costs.

Fact remains in this economy nobody is going to hedge the bet to move all that existing manuf. capacity out of Mexico at 20% percent tariff. Sticker price will recede to accommodate, and financing add 10%. Along with all sorts of creative means to ensure a finished product is snapped together on the otherside. 1/2 a car be worth 0$

Its a fools game I see played out here in C.R. on a daily basis. Special trade deals setup between privateers and .gov that blow with the wind and highest bribe.

The fact is that the manufacturing was taken to Mexico for a much less percentage saving of total m-f-ing cost, now you assume that it won't be moved back because there is a possibility to cheat on product value. You don't think a buyer would seek alternative financing, if they get a better deal from the bank vs the retailer?

[Horn]

The fact is that the manufacturing was taken to Mexico for a much less percentage saving of total m-f-ing cost, now you assume that it won't be moved back because there is a possibility to cheat on product value. You don't think a buyer would seek alternative financing, if they get a better deal from the bank vs the retailer?

I assume it wont be moved back, cause that is where Trump wants to draw gains to build a wall from among other items. The bank is onboard with it as a guaranteed future source of income.

Well that and the fact that $1k manual labor is Not stoppable vs. $4k manual labor once transgressed.

Special tariff imo do nobody well, is another half assed banker approach. If you really wanted to create manufacturing in the U.S. you would ban imports all together.

But then you would fall into the Hitler trap. Fact is U.S. should expand into new cuttin edge products, not try and latch onto what was already lost.

[Neuro]

I assume it wont be moved back, cause that is where Trump wants to draw gains to build a wall from among other items. The bank is onboard with it as a guaranteed future source of income.

Well that and the fact that $1k manual labor is Not stoppable vs. $4k manual labor once transgressed.

Special tariff imo do nobody well, is another half assed banker approach. If you really wanted to create manufacturing in the U.S. you would ban imports all together.

But then you would fall into the Hitler trap. Fact is U.S. should expand into new cuttin edge products, not try and latch onto what was already lost.
It was lost on the altar of free trade religion, the one every mainstream economist has sworn on being the only way the last 30 years. However it isn't really fair competition when central banks are manipulating their currencies at will to make their country more competitive, or in the case of US, less competitive. The US has essentially been able to maintain an extremely strong dollar, by the money managers buying congress critters, whose main purpose is to direct the armed forces to attack countries who think of rejecting USD for their produce (mainly oil), apart from defending Israel, against those same tin pot dictatorships. Without this arm wringing the astronomical trade deficit would make the USD worthless very soon.

No I don't think the 20% tariff will happen, at this point it is just a negotiation point.

Just heard that Trump is 100% behind NATO. And Putin may be an asshole even if he liked him earlier...

[Horn]

Freetrade were a hoax cooked up to get years of specifically directed R&D industry (vested by FED holders) to the globe. Once acted upon held as hostage and under constant manuf. rotation through the far east a latin america to create the central banking system we have today. Mexican Indians were saved for final dining as they're closest to home.

Never free trade, always fixed the world ate it hook line and sinker.

They certainly are not about to allow that system become a free one Now, cause they own it.