Scientists turn hydrogen into a metal

[Ares]

A team of scientists say they have successfully turned hydrogen into a metal, potentially confirming a prediction made 80 years ago.

In 1935, scientists predicted that the element hydrogen could become a metal if subjected to enough pressure. Teams have been attempting to confirm the prediction ever since, but have not been able to construct a vise capable of squeezing the element enough without breaking the equipment.

But a team of scientists at Harvard University published a paper this week in the peer-reviewed journal Science saying they managed to squeeze hydrogen in a diamond vise to the point that the element became reflective, a key property of metals.

The study is not merely a parlor trick. Metallic hydrogen is thought to be a superconductor, meaning it could conduct electricity without any resistance. Electricity traveling through normal circuits loses energy to resistance overtime, often in the form of heat. This is why it is harder to send electrical currents (say, through the electricity grid) over long distances than short ones. But a current traveling through a superconducting material loses nearly zero energy.

Superconductive metals are used to make the magnets for devices such as hospital MRI machines and particle accelerators such as CERN. The trouble with many superconductors is that the materials now used need to be cooled to extremely low temperatures in order to work, which is expensive.

It is also possible that metallic hydrogen material may be "metastable," according to Science Magazine. This means that, once formed, it may retain its metallic properties even at normal temperatures and pressure levels, like diamonds. If so, it could conduct electricity at nearly 100 percent efficiency in normal conditions. Again, this could dramatically reduce the costs of transferring electrical currents, meaning more powerful and efficient electric motors, and a far more efficient electrical grid.

Scientists have been searching for such a material almost as long as they have known about superconductivity.

Of course, the study has its critics. Eugene Gregoryanz, a physicist at the University of Edinburgh, told Science Magazine he sees a several problems with the experiment's procedures.

"The word garbage cannot really describe it," said Gregoryanz, of the experiment.

The video below, from Harvard, discusses the discovery in detail:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qitm5fteL0

Link to video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qitm5fteL0

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/27/scientists-turned-hydrogen-into-a-metal.html

[Jerrylynnb]

I don't believe this.

Do you ever get the feeling that you are being fed fairy tales as if they are true?

They used liquid hydrogen in the J2 rocket engines of the Apollo 2nd and 3rd stages - there was NO CHANCE of any crystallization as that would have been catastrophic. Liquid hydrogen, no matter how much heat you withdrew, would NOT crystallize - that had already been determined.

I wonder how much of what is being spewed forth in today's world is pure bunk - I suspect this is just that. Maybe they subjected liquid hydrogen to sufficient pressure (beyond any normal person's imagination), and got the resulting "plasma" to exhibit some properties that are sometimes associated with metals (as measured by highly sophisticated instruments, easily nudged out of calibration), and they jump up and down like monkey's thinking they got a breakthrough.

Wait until they lay something out on the table for ordinary blokes to see - don't hold your breath. Hydrogen can be liquefied, but NOT crystallized - that is long established empirical physics.

[crimethink]

I don't believe this.

"Getting published" is a key aspect to retaining and advancing one's career in academia, and to securing continued funding for one's research. Doesn't matter if the publication piece is in-credible (not credible) or even retarded, you have to get your name out there. And since "peer review" is just a euphemism for circle-jerk among "scientists," it's not hard to get minimal support for almost any ideas.

Is this bullshit? Probably. Time will tell. It does remind me of "black light power" and similar garbage. But then, Scotty's "transparent aluminum" eventually became science fact (see aluminum oxynitride).

[vacuum]

Wow, this is incredible. They say its been stable in their lab since October.

The sample is only 1.5 microns by 10 microns, so pretty tiny.

They had to put liquid hydrogen under extreme pressure between two diamonds to turn it into metal - about 70 million psi.

[mamboni]

Wow, this is incredible. They say its been stable in their lab since October.

The sample is only 1.5 microns by 10 microns, so pretty tiny.

They had to put liquid hydrogen under extreme pressure between two diamonds to turn it into metal - about 70 million psi.

1.5 microns by 10 microns? LOL

[Neuro]

Wow, this is incredible. They say its been stable in their lab since October.

The sample is only 1.5 microns by 10 microns, so pretty tiny.

They had to put liquid hydrogen under extreme pressure between two diamonds to turn it into metal - about 70 million psi.

They believe they see reflections in it... ;D


Of course, the study has its critics. Eugene Gregoryanz, a physicist at the University of Edinburgh, told Science Magazine he sees a several problems with the experiment's procedures.

"The word garbage cannot really describe it," said Gregoryanz, of the experiment

[singular_me]

all matter is compressed Light

element table by walter russell, which also explains the resonance/harmonics of matter.


http://www.occultphysics.com/images/Table-of-Elements-2.jpg

[Glass]

Thank you, I've been looking for that.


I think I meant superfluid helium.

1 primer:

Another primer:

Neither is the story I saw recently.. Last 2 months. Will see if I can track it down.


Interesting times.

I had a question for you about something which I think is vibration related. I'm not 100% on what the element concerned is but I think the correct term is Hard Hydrogen or something along those lines. Have you heard of it? I saw a story on it but I can't recall if it was CERN related or some other activity. My thinking is... and I've heard others suppose that the composition of space is actually liquid and might be something like this hard hydrogen.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?65285-Harmonics-animal-magnetism-and-messmerism&highlight=mesmerism

[Neuro]

Thank you, I've been looking for that.





http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?65285-Harmonics-animal-magnetism-and-messmerism&highlight=mesmerism

You were probably thinking of the metallic THC cloud at the end of the universe as we know it.

[Neuro]

all matter is compressed Light

Wrong, all light is dilute matter. Or if you prefer "all matter is compressed dilute matter". On the other side "all light is dilute compressed light" QED

[Spectrism]

1.5 microns by 10 microns? LOL
Wait til they come back and admit a grain of sand somehow got into the compression and all they had left was the contamination. Good luck making a super conductor magnet with that.

[singular_me]

I dont care about your pro-mainstream mindset. The DNA of all matter is encrypted in LIGHT.

You do not like it because it is metaphysics I dont give a damn. Walter Russel's genius is out there and proves that all mainstream sciences is wrong

Light is the starting point of everything. In your example it goes otherwise. There is no egg-chicken dilemma. But at least you are starting to stretch it a little bit. Good

Maybe in 5 years from now, you will join Water Russell's train of thought

Light is everyting


Wrong, all light is dilute matter. Or if you prefer "all matter is compressed dilute matter". On the other side "all light is dilute compressed light" QED

[Neuro]

I dont care about your pro-mainstream mindset. The DNA of all matter is encrypted in LIGHT.

You do not like it because it is metaphysics I dont give a damn. Walter Russel's genius is out there and proves that all mainstream sciences is wrong

Light is the starting point of everything. In your example it goes otherwise. There is no egg-chicken dilemma. But at least you are starting to stretch it a little bit. Good

Maybe in 5 years from now, you will join Water Russell's train of thought

Light is everyting
Scream on moron, a bit louder and it may become true! ;D Walter Russel didn't prove anything, nothing, nada. LOL

[singular_me]

Scream on moron, a bit louder and it may become true! ;D Walter Russel didn't prove anything, nothing, nada. LOL

You do not like it because it is metaphysics I dont give a damn. You'd rather die than recognize metaphysics. You have proven that many times.

how light waves connect all dots: harmonics aka resonance and matter. Even Pythagoras agreed with that. More than 2000 years ago. Keep refuting the facts. LOL .

WALTER RUSSEL 'S TABLE OF ELEMENTS
http://www.occultphysics.com/images/Table-of-Elements-2.jpg

[Neuro]

You do not like it because it is metaphysics I dont give a damn. You'd rather die than recognize metaphysics. You have proven that many times.

how light waves connect all dots: harmonics aka resonance and matter. Even Pythagoras agreed with that. More than 2000 years ago. Keep refuting the facts. LOL .

WALTER RUSSEL 'S TABLE OF ELEMENTS
http://www.occultphysics.com/images/Table-of-Elements-2.jpg

What fact? That he made a table? ;D

I think I see "Moron" in that table, together with many other non-existent substances.

[Ares]

I don't believe this.

Do you ever get the feeling that you are being fed fairy tales as if they are true?

They used liquid hydrogen in the J2 rocket engines of the Apollo 2nd and 3rd stages - there was NO CHANCE of any crystallization as that would have been catastrophic. Liquid hydrogen, no matter how much heat you withdrew, would NOT crystallize - that had already been determined.

I wonder how much of what is being spewed forth in today's world is pure bunk - I suspect this is just that. Maybe they subjected liquid hydrogen to sufficient pressure (beyond any normal person's imagination), and got the resulting "plasma" to exhibit some properties that are sometimes associated with metals (as measured by highly sophisticated instruments, easily nudged out of calibration), and they jump up and down like monkey's thinking they got a breakthrough.

Wait until they lay something out on the table for ordinary blokes to see - don't hold your breath. Hydrogen can be liquefied, but NOT crystallized - that is long established empirical physics.

The core of Jupiter and Saturn is thought to be metallic hydrogen... If they are able to prove this and others are able to replicate it. It could be ground breaking depending on the metals strength, durability and conductivity..

[Spectrism]

The core of Jupiter and Saturn is thought to be metallic hydrogen... If they are able to prove this and others are able to replicate it. It could be ground breaking depending on the metals strength, durability and conductivity..


I have a good metaphysical source that tells me and singularly silly, that the core of Jupiter is a super compressed basketball and the core and the core of Saturn is a pingpong ball. The core of earth is not yet known because it is too far away, but we are assembling a team to pick up the trail of Arnie Saknussen and they will venture to the center of earth this year.

[Ares]

I have a good metaphysical source that tells me and singularly silly, that the core of Jupiter is a super compressed basketball and the core and the core of Saturn is a pingpong ball. The core of earth is not yet known because it is too far away.


The core of Jupiter and Saturn is thought to be metallic hydrogen.

I used the word THOUGHT for a reason.

Due to Earthquakes, they're pretty confident that the core of Earth is liquid Iron. Due to the amount of hydrogen found in the atmosphere in Jupiter and Saturn it was theorized that their cores are metallic hydrogen. Due to the enormous pressure of their atmospheres and immense size.

[Spectrism]

The core of Jupiter and Saturn is thought to be metallic hydrogen.


I used the word THOUGHT for a reason.

Due to Earthquakes, they're pretty confident that the core of Earth is liquid Iron. Due to the amount of hydrogen found in the atmosphere in Jupiter and Saturn it was theorized that their cores are metallic hydrogen. Due to the enormous pressure of their atmospheres and immense size.

"Is thought" is a passive voice. In writing, this is to be avoided, or better written: A good writer will avoid using the passive voice. In the passive, we must then ask: is thought by whom? If this is not answered during the passive voice style, the reader is left guessing who or what the subject is.

But my jest was not for grammar. It was for the stupidity of people claiming to know the inside of another planet. Look at this dumbass article and see how many stupid things you can find.

https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2011/09aug_juno3
August 9, 2011
August 5th, NASA's Juno spacecraft blasted off on a 5-year voyage to a freakish world: planet Jupiter.

Jupiter has a long list of oddities. For one thing, it's enormous, containing 70% of our solar system's planetary material, yet it is not like the rocky world beneath our feet. Jupiter is so gassy, it seems more like a star. Jupiter’s atmosphere brews hurricanes twice as wide as Earth itself, monsters that generate 400 mph winds and lightning 100 times brighter than terrestrial bolts. The giant planet also emits a brand of radiation lethal to unprotected humans.
Jupiter's strangest feature, however, may be a 25,000 mile deep soup of exotic fluid sloshing around its interior. It's called liquid metallic hydrogen.
"Here on Earth, hydrogen is a colorless, transparent gas," says Juno principal investigator Scott Bolton. "But in the core of Jupiter, hydrogen transforms into something bizarre." [i thought you said MAY BE]
Jupiter is 90% hydrogen1[how would you know that when you have no clue what is under the surface?], with 10% helium and a sprinkle of all the other elements. In the gas giant’s outer layers, hydrogen is a gas just like on Earth. As you go deeper, intense atmospheric pressure gradually turns the gas into a dense fluid.2 Eventually the pressure becomes so great that it squeezes the electrons out of the hydrogen atoms and the fluid starts to conduct like a metal.
What’s this fluid like?
"Liquid metallic hydrogen has low viscosity, like water, and it's a good electrical and thermal conductor," says Caltech's David Stevenson, an expert in planet formation, evolution, and structure. "Like a mirror, it reflects light, so if you were immersed in it [here's hoping you never are], you wouldn't be able to see anything."


Here on Earth, liquid metallic hydrogen has been made in shock wave experiments, but since it doesn't stay in that form it has only been made in tiny quantities for very short periods of time. If researchers are right, Jupiter's core may be filled with oceans of the stuff. [another definite MAY BE]
There's so much LMH inside Jupiter that it transforms the planet into an enormous generator. [But that is a definite statement of "fact". May be is not a fact.] "A deep layer of liquid metallic hydrogen and Jupiter's rapid rotation (about 10 hours) create a magnetic field 450 million miles long -- the biggest entity in the solar system," says Bolton. Jupiter's magnetosphere can produce up to 10 million amps of electric current, with auroras that light up Jupiter’s poles more brightly than any other planet.
Although scientists are fairly sure that liquid metallic hydrogen exists inside Jupiter, they don't know exactly how the big planet's interior is structured. For instance, where does the hydrogen turn into a conductor? Does Jupiter have a core of heavy elements inside?


Juno's mission is to answer those key questions.
"By mapping Jupiter's magnetic field, gravity field, and atmospheric composition, Juno will tell us a great deal about the make-up of Jupiter's interior."
It's important to understand this behemoth because it wielded a lot of influence in the solar system's formation. After the sun took shape out of the solar nebula, Jupiter formed from the majority of leftover material. The state and composition of the material remaining just after the sun formed are preserved in Jupiter.
"It holds the heirloom recipe that made our solar system's first planets," says Bolton. "And we want it."
With last Friday's launch, "Jupiter becomes our lab, Juno our instrument, to unlock the secrets of gas giants," he says. And what Juno discovers could be very freakish, indeed.

[Joshua01]

More NASA bullshit

[Ares]

"Is thought" is a passive voice. In writing, this is to be avoided, or better written: A good writer will avoid using the passive voice. In the passive, we must then ask: is thought by whom? If this is not answered during the passive voice style, the reader is left guessing who or what the subject is.

But my jest was not for grammar. It was for the stupidity of people claiming to know the inside of another planet. Look at this dumbass article and see how many stupid things you can find.

https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2011/09aug_juno3
August 9, 2011
August 5th, NASA's Juno spacecraft blasted off on a 5-year voyage to a freakish world: planet Jupiter.

Jupiter has a long list of oddities. For one thing, it's enormous, containing 70% of our solar system's planetary material, yet it is not like the rocky world beneath our feet. Jupiter is so gassy, it seems more like a star. Jupiter’s atmosphere brews hurricanes twice as wide as Earth itself, monsters that generate 400 mph winds and lightning 100 times brighter than terrestrial bolts. The giant planet also emits a brand of radiation lethal to unprotected humans.
Jupiter's strangest feature, however, may be a 25,000 mile deep soup of exotic fluid sloshing around its interior. It's called liquid metallic hydrogen.
"Here on Earth, hydrogen is a colorless, transparent gas," says Juno principal investigator Scott Bolton. "But in the core of Jupiter, hydrogen transforms into something bizarre." [i thought you said MAY BE]
Jupiter is 90% hydrogen1[how would you know that when you have no clue what is under the surface?], with 10% helium and a sprinkle of all the other elements. In the gas giant’s outer layers, hydrogen is a gas just like on Earth. As you go deeper, intense atmospheric pressure gradually turns the gas into a dense fluid.2 Eventually the pressure becomes so great that it squeezes the electrons out of the hydrogen atoms and the fluid starts to conduct like a metal.
What’s this fluid like?
"Liquid metallic hydrogen has low viscosity, like water, and it's a good electrical and thermal conductor," says Caltech's David Stevenson, an expert in planet formation, evolution, and structure. "Like a mirror, it reflects light, so if you were immersed in it [here's hoping you never are], you wouldn't be able to see anything."


Here on Earth, liquid metallic hydrogen has been made in shock wave experiments, but since it doesn't stay in that form it has only been made in tiny quantities for very short periods of time. If researchers are right, Jupiter's core may be filled with oceans of the stuff. [another definite MAY BE]
There's so much LMH inside Jupiter that it transforms the planet into an enormous generator. [But that is a definite statement of "fact". May be is not a fact.] "A deep layer of liquid metallic hydrogen and Jupiter's rapid rotation (about 10 hours) create a magnetic field 450 million miles long -- the biggest entity in the solar system," says Bolton. Jupiter's magnetosphere can produce up to 10 million amps of electric current, with auroras that light up Jupiter’s poles more brightly than any other planet.
Although scientists are fairly sure that liquid metallic hydrogen exists inside Jupiter, they don't know exactly how the big planet's interior is structured. For instance, where does the hydrogen turn into a conductor? Does Jupiter have a core of heavy elements inside?


Juno's mission is to answer those key questions.
"By mapping Jupiter's magnetic field, gravity field, and atmospheric composition, Juno will tell us a great deal about the make-up of Jupiter's interior."
It's important to understand this behemoth because it wielded a lot of influence in the solar system's formation. After the sun took shape out of the solar nebula, Jupiter formed from the majority of leftover material. The state and composition of the material remaining just after the sun formed are preserved in Jupiter.
"It holds the heirloom recipe that made our solar system's first planets," says Bolton. "And we want it."
With last Friday's launch, "Jupiter becomes our lab, Juno our instrument, to unlock the secrets of gas giants," he says. And what Juno discovers could be very freakish, indeed.

Right, which is all theory until it can be explored and observed.

[JohnQPublic]

I used the word THOUGHT for a reason.

Due to Earthquakes, they're pretty confident that the core of Earth is liquid Iron. ...

Actually, they theorize that due to the high pressures at the core, the liquid has re-solidified. I do no know what is so unbelievable about the possibility of a solid state of hydrogen. Most elements (maybe all, not sure) can exist as solid, liquid or gas depending on temperature and pressure, and once solid gaining a crystalline form is possible.

8817


Hydrogen state vs. T and P. I am not sure which if any might be the crystalline form they claim to have discovered- ortho-rhombic is a crystal form for instance; hexagonal also sounds like a crystal form and is at pretty high pressures, and once you get there, it can tolerate higher temperatures (as long as you maintain the pressure).
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[crimethink]

all matter is compressed Light


Light is photons.

Matter is energy solidified. Not photonic.

Not quite the same as you paint it.





element table by walter russell, which also explains the resonance/harmonics of matter.

http://www.occultphysics.com/images/Table-of-Elements-2.jpg

Bullshit pseudo-physics.

Where is the key element, Hopium, on the table?

[JohnQPublic]

Actually, they theorize that due to the high pressures at the core, the liquid has re-solidified. I do no know what is so unbelievable about the possibility of a solid state of hydrogen. Most elements (maybe all, not sure) can exist as solid, liquid or gas depending on temperature and pressure, and once solid gaining a crystalline form is possible.

8817


Hydrogen state vs. T and P. I am not sure which if any might be the crystalline form they claim to have discovered- ortho-rhombic is a crystal form for instance; hexagonal also sounds like a crystal form and is at pretty high pressures, and once you get there, it can tolerate higher temperatures (as long as you maintain the pressure).
8818

Her is a liquid-solid phase diagram for iron (earth's core and mantle).

8819

[JohnQPublic]

This is interesting (earth's core):
(http://www.spring8.or.jp/en/news_publications/press_release/2010/101015/)
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[JohnQPublic]

Here is how they got solid metalluc hydrogen (possibly)- the used Pathway I.

https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1610/1610.01634.pdf

8821

[singular_me]

Light is photons.

Matter is energy solidified. Not photonic.

Not quite the same as you paint it.





Bullshit pseudo-physics.

Where is the key element, Hopium, on the table?


here we go again... Light is the source of everything, it is even written in the bible, so you want me to expose AGAIN all me metaphysics in the bible? The same metaphysics that you are bashing here ???

Nothing is never fully provable through experience because the UNknown will forever drive the Known. Every time we open a door, several other ones are behind the latter. Meaning that questions marks will never disappear. So Metaphysics is the only way to bind everything. And that very metaphysics is in the bible and other sacred texts. That you like it or not

The tragic destiny of science is to think it can dismiss metaphysics and it makes religious dogmas very happy. The two have been separated for centuries and peace depends on their merging. But since this knowledge has been out there for millennia, hey have a cup of Hopium tea for me.

Dont project on me your UNwilligness to look into it.

[singular_me]

BOLD: living geometry again.

Two years or so ago, I had a thread about the earth core being a crystal.

one of the articles I posted back then
(wrong article will post it tomorrow if I can find it_

crystals have very specific metaphysical property by the way, which some would call new age BS.



posted by JQP: Hydrogen state vs. T and P. I am not sure which if any might be the crystalline form they claim to have discovered- ortho-rhombic is a crystal form for instance; hexagonal also sounds like a crystal form and is at pretty high pressures, and once you get there, it can tolerate higher temperatures (as long as you maintain the pressure).

[crimethink]

Light is the source of everything, it is even written in the bible


No it isn't, and no, it does not.

In Genesis, Yahweh creates the light with energy - vibration - of His Word.

In John, the Word - sound, vibration, energy - is before, not "the light."




so you want me to expose AGAIN all me metaphysics in the bible?


The only thing you expose with nearly every post is your stupidity.




The same metaphysics that you are bashing here ???


You make an ass-umption here. Do not pretend to know more about quantum physics or metaphysics than I do.

Reality-based metaphysics describe physics not yet understood. However, what you put forth are pet-theories of your guru, Russell, having varying degrees of relationship to the facts.

You fail to recognize that metaphysics, just like physics, has a continuum of theories and explanations, some of which are demonstrably accurate, and others patently false.




The tragic destiny of science is to think it can dismiss metaphysics and it makes religious dogmas very happy. The two have been separated for centuries and peace depends on their merging. But since this knowledge has been out there for millennia, hey have a cup of Hopium tea for me.

Dont project on me your UNwilligness to look into it.

Don't project your strawman onto me, and then demolish it, claiming "victory" over what I supposedly believe.

You think you understand what you spout, but you really don't. You are someone living within the social "sciences" realm, trying to apply the same rules used there to hard science. It doesn't work. And you don't realize it.

[crimethink]

crystals have very specific metaphysical property by the way, which some would call new age BS.

I may very well have the largest mineral collection of anyone here at GSUS. I have studied the scientific and metaphysical properties of minerals ("rocks") for 16+ years.

Among the mineral metaphysics authors I've encountered, only Michael Gienger comes close to being scientific about his claims. And he still falls short. Most of the "metaphysical properties" he claims exist are pure belief based. But what's most troubling is that his claims for "crystal healing" are routinely at odds with the claims of other mineral metaphysics authors, such as the kook Judy Hall, or bat-shit loony "Melody."

Crystal healing is pure faith-based. Period. That said, I do love my quartz, and holding a beautiful piece is every bit as magical as holding a GAE.

[vacuum]

"Is thought" is a passive voice. In writing, this is to be avoided, or better written: A good writer will avoid using the passive voice.

Scientists are trained to write with a passive voice, it is considered the proper way to write science.

The idea is that the focus is totally on the experiment, not the person or people conducting the experiment.

[singular_me]

what I have said numerous times on here you are just parroting.

But this vibration is the VIBRATION OF LIGHT. Its wavelength. Light being dual, a wave and particle and both shape matter.

Light possesses 7 properties, vibration is ONE of them, in the bible they made it simple for people like you ;D. The bible keeps the 7 principles of Light separated, so people cannot connect the dots , and this why religions fragment people's mind more than anything else. My book on emotions invites to the metaphysical reconciliation of Thought with the 7 Principles. Is a Cognitive Unification theory. ;D To have more peace in the world, the thinking must align itself to the 7 Laws.

7 is a sacred Number, the Number of God. And here is WHY!! God created the world in 6 days and rested the 7th.

... and LIGHT obeys LIVING GEOMETRY, which is why sacred numbers are all over in sacred texts.

nope you still do not get it, sorry

Hence everything is LIGHT, and jesus says numerous times in the bible that God is Light.

as long as you dont understand that you can't possibly understand metaphysics. Nor be ready for the merging of sciences and spirituality. Scientism and dogmatic religions are two sides of the same coin. They both prevent the unification of Thought and Research. Precisely why all our scientific findings are causing more problems than actually resolving them, mainly because scientists and sociologists' minds are not aligned with the Laws.

I dont care of what you think because it is the VERY WAVELENGTH the NWO operates on to twist everything.


No it isn't, and no, it does not.

In Genesis, Yahweh creates the light with energy - vibration - of His Word.

In John, the Word - sound, vibration, energy - is before, not "the light."

.

[crimethink]

what I have said numerous times on here you are just parroting.


You really think highly of yourself...so highly that I suspect a delusional disorder.

Next, you'll be telling us you "taught" us the Sun rises in the east.




as long as you dont understand that you can't possibly understand metaphysics.

What is so sad is that you are so wrapped up in your pretension of "knowledge" that you fail to realize it is you are benighted.

[singular_me]

you do not like what I am saying... I dont care, simple.



You really think highly of yourself...so highly that I suspect a delusional disorder.

Next, you'll be telling us you "taught" us the Sun rises in the east.



What is so sad is that you are so wrapped up in your pretension of "knowledge" that you fail to realize it is you are benighted.

[Neuro]

I may very well have the largest mineral collection of anyone here at GSUS. I have studied the scientific and metaphysical properties of minerals ("rocks") for 16+ years.

Among the mineral metaphysics authors I've encountered, only Michael Gienger comes close to being scientific about his claims. And he still falls short. Most of the "metaphysical properties" he claims exist are pure belief based. But what's most troubling is that his claims for "crystal healing" are routinely at odds with the claims of other mineral metaphysics authors, such as the kook Judy Hall, or bat-shit loony "Melody."

Crystal healing is pure faith-based. Period. That said, I do love my quartz, and holding a beautiful piece is every bit as magical as holding a GAE.
I doubt your superior study and expertise into the metaphysics of crystals would somehow make her back off. Probably not. She has no respect for others hard and ardeous study of a subject. It is enough for here to have seen a video of Krishnamurti or some other religious authority she is biased towards to reject even a lifetime of study and experience, with the words, you can not understand this because you have demonstrated time and again you are not interested in metaphysics (meaning you have a different interest or more often a different belief than her).

I guess she is a child of her time, in that if she believes things are in a certain way, THEY ACTUALLY ARE SO, no matter what amount of reason and physical laws her belief contradicts, even if you by reason can show that her belief in A is contradicted by her belief in B.

I am very interested in metaphysics. I believe in a creator, in souls, and I am sure there are energies in rocks and minerals that affect us, but my conclusion is that anyone who claims to understand how this is connected is full of shit. And those that do usually has very little understanding of the actual physical reality. I see the beauty of God in his physical creation, and my purpose in life is really to try and understand as much of it as possible, that is how I honor God...

Those making themselves the interpretators of the metaphysical reality are usually nothing but spiritual frauds. And I think we have a duty to constantly expose them for what they are, because they are in essence leading people astray away from God.

God gave us five senses and a brain to discover and understand the miracle and beauty of his creation, honor God by using them. Don't let Goldie and her likes put you down, by their insistance that your viewpoint is worthless because you didn't listen to [insert whatever you tube video of spiritual indoctrination here], or because falsely claiming you don't have an interest in the subject. She is a deceiver.

[crimethink]

you do not like what I am saying


Most people don't like bullshit...myself included.




... I dont care, simple.

We know.

You prefer to live in your own fantastic world, where "facts" are whatever you want them to be.

[JohnQPublic]

Folks, we really do not know exactly what light is. We get to a certain point theoretically, and it all falls apart. One reason we do not know exactly what light is is because of the way it travels through space, and we do not know what space is. Supposedly the best theory we have is that it is a component of spacetime, which itself is a mathematical attempt at a description of space and time. Aether theory, while at least being physical in nature is still pretty vague. We do not yet understand the How of gravity or inertia- the basic building blocks of understanding cosmology and space. I would tend to be careful, at least from a scientific perspective about being to absolute about what something "is" (What is "is" :) ).