We were just trying to follow the Bible

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Genuine non-materialistic and revolutionary bible followers going through hardship

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‘A couple is charging that social workers took their newborn the day after he was born because of their alternative lifestyle and religious beliefs.

“They said our view was dangerous,” Christian Holm said of social workers for the Cleburne County, Ala., Department of Human Resources (DHR). “We were just trying to follow the Bible as close as we could and speak for Jesus.”

Holm and his wife, Danielle, have no house and live off the grid. They gave away their possessions and decided to enjoy life by hiking and camping out. When the two wanted to see the country, they put their car in storage and walked from Alabama to New Hampshire and back.’....

Police and social workers took the baby and did not tell the couple where they could find it, The Star reported.

“They took the baby, said, ‘He’s ours and this is the court date. Be there.’” Danielle told the newspaper.

Two months later the baby still had not been returned and the Holms were still waiting for their day in court. A hearing in the case had been scheduled for Dec. 20, but it was cancelled after Judge Melody Walker recused herself, The Star reported.

The Holms have attracted a group of supporters in Anniston who picketed the courthouse after the hearing was cancelled. Supporters have organized under the tagline “#freebabyholm.”

Newborn Seized After Parents Refuse Social Security Number“ You can see when you talk to them directly that they are very loving and caring people,” Jonathan Payton, a friend and supporter of the Holms, told The Star. “That’s what really hit home.”

Christine Holm posted on Facebook Jan. 15 that the couple is getting a single two-hour visit a week with the baby......

Read more: Newborn Seized After ‘Off-Grid’ Parents Refuse Social Security Number
http://www.offthegridnews.com/current-events/newborn-seized-after-off-grid-parents-refuse-social-security-number/

[crimethink]

Alabama's CPS is at least honest in name: Department of Human Resources. That's all we are to them. Resources to be used, abused, and discarded at will.

I'm sure their refusal to apply for a Social Security Number is the primary reason for this.

This is an example of why I vowed never to work for CPS.

More: http://www.annistonstar.com/news/cleburne/spiritual-couple-say-their-infant-was-taken-away-by-dhr/article_6813e4c4-9102-11e6-b7fe-5f0eab03b7e5.html

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how bad will it exactly get?
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‘In one of the more absurd acts of fascist behavior imaginable, students at Kellogg Community College in Battle Creek, Michigan were actually arrested for handing out copies of the United States Constitution without first asking the administrators for permission to do so. Unsurprisingly, the students were members of the Young Americans for Liberty chapter of their college, which has a history of standing up for individual liberty and free speech.

Unfortunately, the powers that be at the school don’t think nearly as highly about the United States Constitution as the Young Americans for Liberty and did everything in their power to have the students arrested for promoting free speech without first asking for their permission — which violates a solicitation policy in effect at Kellogg Community College.’

http://naturalnews.com/2017-01-28-students-arrested-for-handing-out-copies-of-the-constitution.html

[cheka.]

"Newborn Seized After Parents Refuse Social Security Number"

sounds like these people know something. wonder about the dozens of vaccs too - did they try to stop nyc.dc from pumping the stuff into their kid?

[cheka.]

this story needs to go viral {--->){--->){--->)

http://medicalkidnap.com/2016/11/03/newborn-baby-kidnapped-from-alabama-hospital-after-parents-decline-birth-certificate-and-ssn/

Newborn Baby Kidnapped from Alabama Hospital After Parents Decline Birth Certificate and SSN

Baby Given Shots Despite Parents’ Denial of Consent

Supporters have learned that “merely an hour after taking their baby,” vaccines were ordered at the Anniston Regional Medical Center for vaccines. This is despite the fact that Danielle and Christian Holm declined all vaccinations and “even signed a waiver form to deny consent of vaccination.”

The parents were reportedly heartbroken when they obtained paperwork showing the order for the shots that they had refused. Danielle has 3 bachelors degrees, including one in biology and another in psychology. She has researched vaccines and the Vitamin K shot in depth. She understands the physical risks of vaccination as well as the psychological impact of pain on the newborn. For these reasons, she and her husband made the decision to decline the injections.

Alabama law does not mandate either vaccinations or Vitamin K for newborns, so the parents are within their legal rights to refuse.

Judge Issues Gag Order, Family Friend Contacts Health Impact News

Shortly after the story was reported, District Judge Melody Walker of the Cleburne County Circuit Court issued a gag order on the couple, forbidding them to speak about their case.

Since that time, Health Impact News was contacted by a close family friend who talked to us about the couple and their story. The source, who asked not to be named, made it clear that the information that she gave us was from conversations which occurred before the gag order was placed on Danielle and Christian Holm.

She communicated that the Holms want to cooperate with DHR to do everything that they can to get their baby back. They are heartbroken, and they are scared. The source is concerned that the couple may have unwittingly stumbled into a great deal of corruption, and their baby could be an innocent victim of some sort of trafficking ring.

The source close to the family reports that Danielle and Christian sensed that the hospital staff got a bit nervous when the parents declined a birth certificate and social security number for their baby.

There were 2 reasons for their declining the documents. Christian and Danielle felt that the naming of their baby is a spiritual experience. They wanted to wait to decide on a name for their baby until they first had time to bond with and get to know their baby to see what name would be the most appropriate. They also believed that the decision as to whether or not to have a social security number was one that should be left up to the child to make when he is older.

Because they sensed that the hospital staff was uncomfortable with their philosophy, which is rooted in their spiritual beliefs, the family friend states that Christian pro-actively decided to approach the hospital social worker “on his own terms,” to ensure that there were no issues and that they would be in compliance with applicable laws.

Instead of answering, the social worker reportedly left to seek more information. A short time later, she returned to their room with an intern from DHR, the Department of Human Resources, Alabama’s Child Protective Services. The DHR representative reportedly questioned the couple about their religious beliefs. The Holms reportedly stated that they wanted to “live as close to nature as possible, just like their native American ancestors.”

When Christian asked, “What is the most simple way we can live without being harassed?” the DHR worker reportedly told him she had never been asked that before, and that she would consult her supervisor.

Baby Snatched from Mother’s Nursing Breast

The family friend explained that Christian has a house in his name, but it is currently tied up in a family trust. Despite their journey of walking through nature, camping wherever they found themselves, the couple has been in process of trying to move into the house, but there have been complications, causing those plans to fall through. The friend reported that Christian had hoped to discuss this with the social worker, but he did not get the opportunity, because the hospital social worker and the DHR intern returned to the hospital room with 4 police officers, a detective from the sheriff’s department, and a hospital security guard.

After Christian was escorted to another room, Danielle was shocked when the sheriff’s detective allegedly reached down and pulled the baby literally off of his mother’s breast where he was latched on.

As she cried out, asking, “Why?” and telling them she has done nothing wrong, the detective told her that they had reason to believe that they were not who they said they were. He reportedly told her that the baby was now in state custody.

New Mother Denied Basic Care After Baby Seized

In another disturbing similarity between the Holms’ story and others of mothers whose newborn babies are taken from them at the hospital, basic medical care was reportedly withheld from Danielle after her baby was seized by DHR. She was given no discharge instructions. There was no counsel or handout given about what signs of infection to watch for or how to care for her stitches, even though she was a first-time mother.

Ordinarily, all patients checking out of hospitals are escorted out in a wheelchair. Not so with many mothers whose babies are taken from them by the state. Despite their pain and grief, they are singled out to walk out of the hospital on their own strength.

Orders Given to Put Baby on Formula Against the Wish of Parents

The family member reports that Danielle is still pumping her milk for her baby, even though the Anniston Star reports that the Holms have no idea whether or not their baby is receiving the breastmilk, and that there were orders given at the hospital for the baby to be given formula.

This is especially hard for mothers to deal with who know the myriad of benefits of breastfeeding and the multitude of health risks that formula-feeding carries. Feeding their baby his mother’s own milk in the natural way that God designed was a very important value to Danielle and Christian Holm, according to their friend, and knowing that their baby is being fed formula from the hands of a stranger is yet another tragic aspect of their baby’s kidnapping.

How You Can Help the Holms

Call Alabama Governor Robert Bentley’s office at 334-242-7100. He may also be contacted here. He is also on Facebook.

Senator Gerald Dial is the Senator for Cleburne County. He may be reached at 334-242-7874, or contacted here.

Representative Richard Lindsay represents their district. He may be reached at 334-242-7713, or contacted here.

According to the Alabama Family Rights Association, ALFRA:

Alabama has a nine-member task force created to examine the work of the Alabama Department of Human Resources (DHR). If you have issues or concerns about DHR services, your best plan of action is to contact the following legislators/lawmakers and committee members:

Connie Rowe, State Representative, has replaced Mac McCutcheon as the Task Force Chair / 334-242-7600/ email here.

Chris England, State Representative / 334-242-7703 / 205-535-4859 / email here.

Greg Reed, State Senator / 334-242-7894 / he is on Facebook.

The complete list of committee Members can be found here: Executive Order Number 11

[Joshua01]

Somebody is getting their pants sued off
this story needs to go viral {--->){--->){--->)

http://medicalkidnap.com/2016/11/03/newborn-baby-kidnapped-from-alabama-hospital-after-parents-decline-birth-certificate-and-ssn/

Newborn Baby Kidnapped from Alabama Hospital After Parents Decline Birth Certificate and SSN

Baby Given Shots Despite Parents’ Denial of Consent

Supporters have learned that “merely an hour after taking their baby,” vaccines were ordered at the Anniston Regional Medical Center for vaccines. This is despite the fact that Danielle and Christian Holm declined all vaccinations and “even signed a waiver form to deny consent of vaccination.”

The parents were reportedly heartbroken when they obtained paperwork showing the order for the shots that they had refused. Danielle has 3 bachelors degrees, including one in biology and another in psychology. She has researched vaccines and the Vitamin K shot in depth. She understands the physical risks of vaccination as well as the psychological impact of pain on the newborn. For these reasons, she and her husband made the decision to decline the injections.

Alabama law does not mandate either vaccinations or Vitamin K for newborns, so the parents are within their legal rights to refuse.

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District Judge Melody Walker of the Cleburne County Circuit Court issued a gag order on the couple, forbidding them to speak about their case.

Fucking wow! On what grounds?

These black-robed whores need to be "dealt" with.

[madfranks]

A couple is charging that social workers took their newborn the day after he was born...

Two months later the baby still had not been returnedI'm really sorry to say this but with the baby being taken the day after he was born and not returned for two months, irreparable damage has already been done to the little one. The first days/weeks of life are critical for the baby to bond with his mother. This is a really tragic story, and my heart breaks for the couple.

[midnight rambler]

You think fascists give a fuck? Anyone who thinks so doesn't understand Satan worshipers and their religion (the 'man is god' crowd).


I'm really sorry to say this but with the baby being taken the day after he was born and not returned for two months, irreparable damage has already been done to the little one. The first days/weeks of life are critical for the baby to bond with his mother. This is a really tragic story, and my heart breaks for the couple.

[madfranks]

You think fascists give a fuck? Anyone who thinks so doesn't understand Satan worshipers and their religion (the 'man is god' crowd).

No, I don't think they do. But sadly most Americans truly believe that CPS is a positive organization doing good.

[crimethink]

But sadly most Americans truly believe that CPS is a positive organization doing good.

About 90% of "liberals," but only 50% of reality-based folks - the latter are just innocently ignorant of the facts.

One of the huge problems with CPS is that employees are not required to have personally experienced birthing and raising a child. Sorry, Sarah Social Worker, your "university education" doesn't cut it.

[singular_me]

I think this fits right here. I am posting these articles because I support anybody acting against any monopoly, regardless of their beliefs

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Homeschool dad sues federal government for kidnapping his seven children… medical tyranny run amok
31 January 2017 GMT
‘If ever there was a more pertinent threat to individual liberty and the God-given freedom of parents to care for their children how they best see fit, it is the entity known as “Child Protective Services” (CPS), which all across the country has ripped apart the lives of thousands of families. But an Arkansas family that was victimized by the shady and thoroughly corrupt CPS agency in their home state could soon see justice if a landmark lawsuit they recently filed is successful.

A little over two years ago, Hal Stanley and his wife Michelle learned the hard way about how CPS views parents who defy the U.S. Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA) pharmaceutical mandate for treating sick children. When the couple was found to be harboring a dietary supplement known as miracle mineral solution, or MMS, in their home — MMS is not FDA-approved — armed law enforcement and CPS officials raided the home and kidnapped seven of the family’s home-schooled children.’

Arkansas wasting millions in taxpayer dollars trying to defend its tyranny against the Stanleys

It is almost unfathomable to believe that such a scenario can even occur in the “land of the free,” but it happens all the time. In this case, the Stanleys did absolutely nothing other than raise their children mostly off the grid and mind their own business — which often makes one a target in a country like the U.S. that demands total compliance with pharmaceutical, vaccine, and other mandates. (RELATED: Visit Resist.news for daily updates on resisting government tyranny.)

While the Stanleys’ lawsuit stands a real chance at success, it is an uphill battle because the state of Arkansas refuses to relent or admit that it violated the law and committed egregious acts against this innocent family. The state has endless millions to apparently waste on trying to defend itself in court, but the Stanleys’ funds are limited.

This Christian family has been through so much trying to escape the clutches of an out-of-control government apparatus that is shamelessly eager to persecute anyone who veers too far from the fold of politically-correct living and beliefs. They need our help to fight the state and win this victory, which is why they have set up a fundraising page called “But We See Jesus” to see justice served.

“We are seeking redress because we are entitled under the law,” the family’s attorney, Joe Churchwell, wrote in a recent letter. “We will be seeking injunctive relief to force the government to recognize the Bill of Rights.”

more
http://naturalnews.com/2017-01-30-homeschool-dad-sues-federal-government-for-kidnapping-his-7-children-medical-tyranny-run-amok.html