International Survey Reveals 85% Of The World Lives Under Political Corruption

[singular_me]

Dont think these estimates or stats are biased by much. Interestingly the West is still orange because of vanity, I assume.

This chart also clearly establishes that the IQ doesnt mean anything, look at black africa which obviously seems a lot more aware of corruption than well educated westerners. Funny.

this article was posted in another thread but now think it deserves a thread on its own. I think we must brace ourselves for a great upheaval before Trump's presidency ends

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International Survey Reveals 85% Of The World Lives Under Political Corruption
https://www.transparency.org/news/feature/corruption_perceptions_index_2016

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More countries declined than improved in this year's results, showing the urgent need for committed action to thwart corruption.

The lower-ranked countries in our index are plagued by untrustworthy and badly functioning public institutions like the police and judiciary. Even where anti-corruption laws are on the books, in practice they're often skirted or ignored. People frequently face situations of bribery and extortion, rely on basic services that have been undermined by the misappropriation of funds, and confront official indifference when seeking redress from authorities that are on the take.

[JohnQPublic]

Is the US reading pre or post Obama?

[woodman]

This map could be a map of gullibility instead of corruption. The US, England and Israel are some of the most corrupt places on earth but it is a hidden corruption that the masses at large are not privy to. The CIA and the Federal Reserve are two of the most corrupt, organized crime organizations on earth and yet the country they emanate from is shown as a beacon of integrity. What a joke. Not picking on you Goldie and yes, you are right; it would seem the darker peoples are less gullible than the lighter, as a whole.

Much of the corruption in the world at large is driven by the two aforementioned institutions, although I believe that in this case nature abhors a vacuum and if not the CIA and Federal Reserve, some other gangs would be doing this dirty work of enslaving this planet.

[Horn]

ignorance also = very clean

[singular_me]

Is the US reading pre or post Obama?

survey was done some time during the year 2016

[crimethink]

survey was done some time during the year 2016

Then the US should be crimson. Typically biased data from a leftist organization.

[Neuro]

There is a difference between a public official being corrupt, IOW making a decision due to a direct personal financial gain, something almost everyone would be aware of if it happens frequently. Or officials being, wittingly or unwittingly, being part of a conspiracy to defraud the population, which most of the population wouldn't be able to see, due to intricate deception.

In terms of corruption I would say Turkey is several magnitudes worse than Sweden or England (where I lived for 5 years) and unless you have actually lived in a country where corruption and bribery is rampant you really don't have an idea of the difference. In Sweden even the king has been fined for speeding!

I think the map is largely correct in terms of actual corruption according to the description I made in the beginning of this post.

[Norweger]

Norway is very good at buying good ratings in such surveys.

[Neuro]

Norway is very good at buying good ratings in such surveys.

Do you have any evidence that Norway bought their rating in any survey?

When was the last time you got off with a bribe?

Did you ever stay for any longer stretch of time in a Muslim majority country? If so, which one, and what was your impression on the level of corruption compared to Norway?

[singular_me]

Then the US should be crimson. Typically biased data from a leftist organization.

leftist or not, the west regards itself as the beacon of freedom, even the Alt-right would agree with that.

africans see kids and women raped every as a fact of life, here when you talk of pedophilia for example, people look the other way because it is a taboo subject. Because you think that africans do not know that west so-called humanitarian aid is corrupting their leaders? They are many african websites exposing this.

LEFTIST? That the think thank is leftist has no influence on the answers.

The west is awfully gullible, that is. They have fallen at the wheel regardless of their higher IQ.

we are getting close to 100% here, could happen any day if say 30% of westerners ever decide to take the red pill.

[Neuro]

I wonder how they got permission to do the survey in North Korea?

[singular_me]

I wonder how they got permission to do the survey in North Korea?

maybe they called asylum seekers, north koreans that have fled. Same with chinese, china is very repressive against people bashing the regime

[Neuro]

maybe they called asylum seekers, north koreans that have fled. Same with chinese, china is very repressive against people bashing the regime

No they didn't!

Actually. I checked it out transparency.org aren't particularly transparent on their sources at all. But apparently they didn't do any survey at all, instead they got their "data" from other (unknown) sources which should be a "reputable" agency/organization of some type.

http://files.transparency.org/content/download/2055/13232/file/CPI_2016_TechnicalMethodologyNote_EN.pdf

I wouldn't be surprised if the organizations they get their data from to a large extent base their assessment on transparency.org

The corruption perception index isn't based on the perception of people, at all!

Junk pseudo-science

[singular_me]

hey listen, even if they had done a real international survey, there is no guarantee that it wouldnt be kinda rigged either.

what counts is that the corruption color range IS indicative in terms of HUMAN PERCEPTION (regardless of where the data is coming from) and that westerners are far more gullible because brainwashed by leftism. For any countries that dont have any social programs, the harsh reality hits 24/7. Those people have no reason to sugarcoat anything.

but ok, I will make sure to double check in the future, thanks for pointing that out. Even if they didnt surveyed people directly, they did survey or analyzed other data, and to me it is acceptable

I wonder what how would have scored 3rd reich germany under their daily massive propaganda: pale yellow because 99% had food and a roof ???

Leftism skews all perceptions if one believes in it.



Actually. I checked it out transparency.org aren't particularly transparent on their sources at all. But apparently they didn't do any survey at all, instead they got their "data" from other (unknown) sources which should be a "reputable" agency/organization of some type.

http://files.transparency.org/content/download/2055/13232/file/CPI_2016_TechnicalMethodologyNote_EN.pdf

I wouldn't be surprised if the organizations they get their data from to a large extent base their assessment on transparency.org

The corruption perception index isn't based on the perception of people, at all!

Junk pseudo-science

[Neuro]

hey listen, even if they had done a real international survey, there is no guarantee that it wouldnt be kinda rigged either.

what counts is that the corruption color range IS indicative in terms of HUMAN PERCEPTION (regardless of where the data is coming from) and that westerners are far more gullible because brainwashed by leftism. For any countries that dont have any social programs, the harsh reality hits 24/7. Those people have no reason to sugarcoat anything.

but ok, I will make sure to double check in the future, thanks for pointing that out. Even if they didnt surveyed people directly, they did survey or analyzed other data, and to me it is acceptable

I wonder what how would have scored 3rd reich germany under their daily massive propaganda: pale yellow because 99% had food and a roof ???

Leftism skews all perceptions if one believes in it.

Well what can I say, it has been pointed out to you it isn't a survey on human perception, but you insist on calling it so. I think there is good scientific evidence to call you a bloody idiot now.

I have highlighted your most idiotic response. You really are incredibly clueless and gullible. How the fuck can other data than a survey of people's perception be acceptable when perception is what is supposedly monitored according to title? Especially when these other data sources are hidden...

[singular_me]

I stand by what I say, the color range IS accurate

I wish transparency international would mention the sources but I look at the end result.

Go just ask the pro-migrant germans and americans today, if they think merkel, obama and hillary are corrupt. LOL that the west is given a medium orange color in perfectly plausible.


me an idiot when I acknowledge your research. you need more than that, dear. So keep your insults coming and keep defending 3rd reich proganda

you are no reference to me. we are polar opposite anyway. Yesterday also you were incapable of adjusting your mind to a very different and objective premise.

reality is all about perception, but maybe that doesnt fit the scientific method. ;D what scientific method if leftism alter perceptions anyway. But based on your comment., alt-right is for sure a perception too.

I feel good, I am in the middle and objective. And regard this color chart as highly relevant. Dont like it? I dont care



Well what can I say, it has been pointed out to you it isn't a survey on human perception, but you insist on calling it so. I think there is good scientific evidence to call you a bloody idiot now.

I have highlighted your most idiotic response. You really are incredibly clueless and gullible. How the fuck can other data than a survey of people's perception be acceptable when perception is what is supposedly monitored according to title? Especially when these other data sources are hidden...

[Neuro]

I stand by what I say, the color range IS accurate

I wish transparency international would mention the sources butI look at the end result.

Go just ask the pro-migrant germans and americans today, if they think merkel, obama and hillary is corrupt. LOL

LOL it is correct because you are biased, not because it is proven. You stand by what you said just because you are a feebleminded idiot. Someone better than you, would change their opinion if their position was flawed, and learn something new. You are incapable of aknowledging mistakes.

The transparency.org asked someone, some organization secret what their perception was about corruption. Intentionally misleading us to believe this was a survey/poll in all different countries of the world.

They sure didn't ask the population of Germany or US what they thought, still you think it is valid...

[singular_me]

when I see how easy it is to stir up the leftist pot, yes western sheeple do see their own country much less corrupt than any other one.

Germans under the 3rd reich would have shown the same characteristics.

Me biased for saying this? Right!



LOL it is correct because you are biased, not because it is proven. You stand by what you said just because you are a feebleminded idiot. Someone better than you, would change their opinion if their position was flawed, and learn something new. You are incapable of aknowledging mistakes.

The transparency.org asked someone, some organization secret what their perception was about corruption. Intentionally misleading us to believe this was a survey/poll in all different countries of the world.

They sure didn't ask the population of Germany or US what they thought, still you think it is valid...

[Neuro]

when I see how easy it is to stir up the leftist pot, yes western sheeple do see their own country much less corrupt than any other one.

Germans under the 3rd reich would have shown the same characteristics.

Me biased for saying this? Right!

That's what you say based on this piece of junk science. The results as far as we know isn't based on a single survey of what people actually think.

Did you ever go to Africa in adult age, to check on the level of corruption there? Or are you happy only to assess the world from your computer searching to find "research" that confirms your bias?

[singular_me]

you have no case because I agree with the color range used by this org. And many would. Even without this "survey" I can see it by myself that 87% isnt far fetched at all. I read every day about people' s resentment taking place all over the world, from latin america to asia. Thank God, I have such websites to keep myself updated!

And that westerners are a lot more gullible than africans. But you hate this fact. Blacks may be not able to explain it in educated terms but they LIVE it directly, in the streets, 24/7. Go back a few posts, and read what I especially say about countries that do not have leftist programs experience with corruption directly.

Because you surely go to africa in person, right. I'd like to see that. ;D or maybe did I miss that thread of yours with countless pix about your trip there ?

regardless of the fact that transparency international doesnt offer any sources, it still is completely believable. Sorry. That is how I see it.

But thanks for exposing their lack of verifiable sources


That's what you say based on this piece of junk science. The results as far as we know isn't based on a single survey of what people actually think.

Did you ever go to Africa in adult age, to check on the level of corruption there? Or are you happy only to assess the world from your computer searching to find "research" that confirms your bias?

[Neuro]

you have no case because I agree with the color range used by this org. And many would.
Fucking unbelievable, you really do live in a egocentric universe, where your own personal bias is raised to unnegotiable truth. And the thing is you have no practical experience, you have only lived in western societies. In adulthood I have spent about 3 months in Egypt, during three visits, one visit to Marocco (one week). I have spent about 9 months in India (5 visits). 2 weeks in Sri Lanka (1 visit). 1 week in Nepal (1 visit) Three months in China (2 visits), out of which I spent about 3 weeks in Tibet. Three months in Pakistan (4 visits). 4 months in Thailand (4 visits) One month in Iran (3 visits). 3 weeks in Vietnam (1 visit), 10 days in Laos (1 visit), 1 week in Syria (1 visit), 2 weeks in Jordan (2 visits). 2 weeks in Malaysia (2 visits). 1 week in Indonesia (1 visit). This is my experience of the developing world. Most of these visits happened between '91-95. After this I lived in UK, where I studied chiropractic a Master of Science degree. I got married to my wife, who is Turkish in 99, upon which I took a year off, with the idea to travel around in India on the cheap, we came to Pakistan, and we realized my wife was pregnant, so we went to Sweden instead. Went back and continued my education in 2000 after my daughter was born. Went to Sweden after graduation in 2001. Started my own practice after a bit more than a year working for other chiropractors. Son was born 2003. We got a bit bored in Sweden, so we decided to move to Turkey in January 2007. Started from scratch there, after two years I was earning enough to support my family, comfortably... 2013 we saw the increasing corruption and concentration of power in Turkey, so we decided to move back to Sweden. I am still coming and going to Turkey, as I have a really successful practice there, so far so good. So about 10 years in Turkey.

If you want to know anything more about the above you can ask me, but I get that you already understand more about the countries I have experienced in the third world.

[Horn]

Geez, what a migrant....

[woodman]

I read every day about people' s resentment taking place all over the world, from latin america to asia. Thank God, I have such websites to keep myself updated!

I would be interested to read candid threads by third worlders. Can you suggest sites to peruse?

[Neuro]

Geez, what a migrant....

I know what I am talking about...

[Horn]

I know what I am talking about...

Well I hope so, wouldn't want the group to be thinking for you...