Norweger. Let's discuss YOUR religion.

[Hitch]

Islam.

You asked me to create a topic, and so it is created.

I'll ask, in simple terms, for you to show me in the Qu'ran...where my beliefs..Christianity, stand. Does your religion, call for a violent end and how do you personally feel about that.

Furthermore, your prophet, Mohammad, calls for death to all Christians.

Where do you stand on these issues.

I know you can lie to us and still be saved, but....if you can be honest with us. Perhaps we can all benefit from it.

[Twisted Titan]

Back in the 80 the imams authority was absolute the standard Muslim had no choice but to take what was said as gospel truth. To question them was death

That is why someone like salmon rushdie (the satanic verses), had a fatwa, placed on him

But thanks to the Internet the entire hadiths, is online and the individual can research things for himself

and with that ability to research , one can ask questions and when ask logical questions about Islam

The entire religion falls flat on its face

[Twisted Titan]

Here is a fun one I have with Muslims all the time.

You are Muslim right?
You follow the sunna right?
The prophet is the best pattern of conduct right?
You read the Koran as much as possible right?

Good.

where is your copy of the Turat, (Torah) the Ingeel (Gospel) the Zabul (Psalms) to go along with your koran?

You don't have one?
The bible was corrupted?

So how is that possible when you claim the words of Allah cannot be corrupted or altered ?
Either Islam is false or Your God is a Liar because mere men have changed the supposed unchangeable.


I get No answer or the go straight to cussing me out.

[woodman]

Here is a fun one I have with Muslims all the time.

You are Muslim right?
You follow the sunna right?
The prophet is the best pattern of conduct right?
You read the Koran as much as possible right?

Good.

where is your copy of the Turat, (Torah) the Ingeel (Gospel) the Zabul (Psalms) to go along with your koran?

You don't have one?
The bible was corrupted?

So how is that possible when you claim the words of Allah cannot be corrupted or altered.


No answer or the go straight to cussing me out

Glad to see someone is giving them some shit. Around the Detroit area there are loads of them. They are quite bold and getting bolder. I can see strife and warfare in our future. We need to push back against these fuckers and let them know they are not welcome. We know what they are about and they intend to subjugate us. Are we just going to let it happen? What is the wisest course of action for our descendants? I'd love to preach love and tolerance but all it will get us is slavery to these inbred fucks. They will quickly outbreed us and coupled with the immigration it bodes our demise. I will be dead by the time it happens but my children will not. I fear for their future.

[Twisted Titan]

I will be dead by the time it happens but my children will not. I fear for their future.







The answer is simple:

Praise The Lord but pass me the ammunition.

Islam spread across the aribian penisula by the tip of the sword
But It will be slain by hot lead.

[woodman]

I will be dead by the time it happens but my children will not. I fear for their future.
The answer is simple:

Praise The Lord but pass me the ammunition.

Islam spread by the tip of the sword
It will be slain by hot lead

I'm with ya. It is time to man up. All of us. The time to deal with this threat is right now. What do we do? How do we act? Our leaders, church leaders included are interested in destroying us. It is obvious to us what the future will bring, based on the past. Why on earth do people think it will be any different this time? I am not a Christian and I've said before that I have suffered abuse as a child because I did not believe as those around me. At the same time I will side with the Christians because they are my friends and family and at least they don't try to force me as an adult to worship as they do. In other words Christian society affords me a measure of freedom and this will not be the case for our children under Islam. What are we to do? Not only is our way of life threatened but our very existence as a race. We will be wiped out. This is naked genocide but no one will call it that. Am I somehow wrong?

I am close to the point where I am so sick of worrying about this and trying to wake people up that I will soon just shut up and ignore it. I will pretend it does not exist and spend the rest of my days simply living my life.

[Ares]

Hot lead is the ONLY thing these inbred retards understand. They brutalize themselves, honor killings, someone stole their camel from a camel beauty pageant and mated with it, someone drew their pedophile "prophet", the answer is always the same. Death, stoning, torture, beheading etc.

These retards are not anything but predictable in their reactions to "offenses."

Take Norweger for example, he'll never discuss his religion.

https://pics.onsizzle.com/to-save-confusion-stop-pdf-islam-adobe-this-is-a-2647378.png

[7th trump]

Glad to see someone is giving them some shit. Around the Detroit area there are loads of them. They are quite bold and getting bolder. I can see strife and warfare in our future. We need to push back against these fuckers and let them know they are not welcome. We know what they are about and they intend to subjugate us. Are we just going to let it happen? What is the wisest course of action for our descendants? I'd love to preach love and tolerance but all it will get us is slavery to these inbred fucks. They will quickly outbreed us and coupled with the immigration it bodes our demise. I will be dead by the time it happens but my children will not. I fear for their future.

And some douche bags on this site continually bitch and moan about my behavior of how I treat stupidity with a stern attitude.
Fuck the little pussy's......may a Muslim slice his liberal throat wide open.......I have no remorse for fools
And yes you will see in our life time a battle with the muslims in this country.
Shoot the women and children of muslims .....they are vipers too

[Jewboo]

...Our leaders, church leaders included are interested in destroying us... What are we to do? Not only is our way of life threatened but our very existence as a race. We will be wiped out. This is naked genocide but no one will call it that. Am I somehow wrong?



http://cdn.quotesgram.com/img/48/84/1380528611-Love_20Your_20Enemies.jpg https://www.jihadwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Pope-kissing-feet.jpg

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[Horn]

I'm just not sure why anyone would want to discuss details of Islam with a Norwegian.

I mean, i understand the desire to (I Think?) I have a hard time finding a Muslim anywhere to talk to or even speaks English.

Not that I have been looking to discuss religion with religious people.

Its kinda dumb, cold and pointless anyway in most cases to even attempt the discussion.

[crimethink]

I'm with ya. It is time to man up. All of us. The time to deal with this threat is right now. What do we do? How do we act? Our leaders, church leaders included are interested in destroying us. It is obvious to us what the future will bring, based on the past. Why on earth do people think it will be any different this time? I am not a Christian and I've said before that I have suffered abuse as a child because I did not believe as those around me. At the same time I will side with the Christians because they are my friends and family and at least they don't try to force me as an adult to worship as they do. In other words Christian society affords me a measure of freedom and this will not be the case for our children under Islam. What are we to do? Not only is our way of life threatened but our very existence as a race. We will be wiped out. This is naked genocide but no one will call it that. Am I somehow wrong?

I am close to the point where I am so sick of worrying about this and trying to wake people up that I will soon just shut up and ignore it. I will pretend it does not exist and spend the rest of my days simply living my life.

My faith in Christ has helped me come to terms with the fact we have lost the temporal war against the enemies of the Image of God.

All of this was foretold nearly two millennia ago. The rise of a world empire, the repeat of the grave degeneracy of Noah's world, even the race-mixing and destruction of culture.

There is now only one Hope, one Warrior who can deliver the world from the vast and increasing evil in this world.

I have accepted that our race, and the entire world, prefers destruction, and is literally Hell-Bent on making that happen. It attacks, even kills anyone who speaks the Truth.

I pray that maybe you can share in that peace and hope one day.

[crimethink]

Hot lead is the ONLY thing these inbred retards understand.

Everyone here must read Jean Raspail's The Camp of the Saints.

He is a brilliant writer and fully attuned to reality, at least as best as he could be in 1973. He saw all this. Had he been heeded, a lot of the horrors could have been avoided. But now we're past what even he projected (consider the vote of the Swiss yesterday).

Who is going to deploy this hot lead against the subhumans? Trump? "Israel"? Oscar Yeager?

Raspail teaches us that a few kamikazes making a last stand will be not only ineffectual, but targeted by those they try to save.

The only sane strategy is to try to hold out, hang on, until the promised Savior arrives. Avoid the cities, disconnect from unnecessary Mystery Babylon interfaces, keep to oneself, and rely on - and share with - only those whom you can trust with your life.

[Joshua01]

There is now only one Hope, one Warrior who can deliver the world from the vast and increasing evil in this world.

Who might that be?

[crimethink]

There is now only one Hope, one Warrior who can deliver the world from the vast and increasing evil in this world.

Who might that be?

You already know the answer, but you choose to place your hope in humans who have and will continue to lie to you.

[Joshua01]

So you're saying its Trump right? :)
You already know the answer, but you choose to place your hope in humans who have and will continue to lie to you.

[woodman]

http://cdn.quotesgram.com/img/48/84/1380528611-Love_20Your_20Enemies.jpg https://www.jihadwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Pope-kissing-feet.jpg

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:rolleyes:















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There exists within Christianity a paradox of structural belief. When a paradox is encountered it is often an indicator of a failure of reasoning, a contradiction. I am not trying to denigrate any one's religion, merely pointing this out. It is true that Christianity calls for one to 'turn the other cheeck', in other words allow violence to be done even unto death and enslavement without fighting back. If one allows such enslavement, then those enslaved and any ensuing generations are like as not to be raised as Muslims and accept the tenets of Islam. Doesn't this mean that these innocents will be relegated to eternal death and not accepted into heaven to partake in eternal life? Acceptance of Jesus as a personal savior is the only way to eternal life, at least according to the Christians I have talked to. So you see, the eventual death of Christianity is baked into the cake along with the eternal damnation of the descendants unless one is determined to fight back against violence with violence, which the teaching of Christ disallows. Have I gotten the wrong idea here? There is an irony to this.

It is the same type of irony I see when looking at the women's lib movement. The very act of supporting the things women's lib advocates, insures that the population of the 'tolerant' society will fall prey to the numbers game that the Muslims are so obviously playing and insures the absolute slavery of these very same women or at least their female descendants.

[Horn]

God does not require any "strategy" to win thru Christianity, woodman.

Its already the case that if he were the biggest loser on the face of the universe, he still would have won because it were his plan of fate to have himself there. :)

[Jewboo]

There exists within Christianity a paradox of structural belief. When a paradox is encountered it is often an indicator of a failure of reasoning, a contradiction. I am not trying to denigrate any one's religion, merely pointing this out. It is true that Christianity calls for one to 'turn the other cheek', in other words allow violence to be done even unto death and enslavement without fighting back. If one allows such enslavement, then those enslaved and any ensuing generations are like as not to be raised as Muslims and accept the tenets of Islam. Doesn't this mean that these innocents will be relegated to eternal death and not accepted into heaven to partake in eternal life? Acceptance of Jesus as a personal savior is the only way to eternal life, at least according to the Christians I have talked to. So you see, the eventual death of Christianity is baked into the cake along with the eternal damnation of the descendants unless one is determined tofight back against violence with violence, which the teaching of Christ disallows. Have I gotten the wrong idea here? There is an irony to this.

It is the same type of irony I see when looking at the women's lib movement. The very act of supporting the things women's lib advocates, insures that the population of the 'tolerant' society will fall prey to the numbers game that the Muslims are so obviously playing and insures the absolute slavery of these very same women or at least their female descendants.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/05/01/article-1382515-03DAA0880000044D-934_468x478.jpg http://www.ruthlessreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/passionofchristqi4.jpg

Exactly. This is MASOCHISM (https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/masochist) invented by jews. Carry their cross then let (((them))) nail you to it? Love (((them))) as they rob and kill you? Turn the other cheek so (((they))) can strike you again?

This is not a paradox. This is insanity.
















https://media.tenor.co/images/948cdd3b70c9e970ca3a5bd94592dec8/raw
You must love me as I rob you blind goyim. Jesus says so.

[singular_me]

all religious doctrines are predictive programing... and I have to agree with book

self-responsibility does not require (pagan) blood sacrifice, but throughout the age the majority has always been ready to die for whatever religion. It was and still is meant to happen that way.

I urge christians to let go the bible and investigate early christianity which is not pro-pagan rituals. The bible has done a lot more harm than good.

Revering blood driven religions is insane and led us on the edge of the abyss. They may engulf us all. Religions must ALL be let go because they all are into the **cult of the virgin**, responsible for pedophilia since ever.


Christianity without Crucifixion in the Early Church
By Nick Gier
, Professor Emeritus, University of Idaho (ngier@uidaho.edu)
The first known crucifix was made by a Saxon artist who carved a lifesize dead Jesus from oak. Called the Gero Crucifix it was produced in AD 965-70
http://www.tomandrodna.com/Nick_Gier/Paradise.pdf





Exactly. This is MASOCHISM (https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/masochist) invented by jews. Carry their cross then let (((them))) nail you to it? Love (((them))) as they rob and kill you? Turn the other cheek so (((they))) can strike you again?

This is not a paradox. This is insanity.



https://media.tenor.co/images/948cdd3b70c9e970ca3a5bd94592dec8/raw
You must love me as I rob you blind goyim. Jesus says so.

[crimethink]

There exists within Christianity a paradox of structural belief. When a paradox is encountered it is often an indicator of a failure of reasoning, a contradiction. I am not trying to denigrate any one's religion, merely pointing this out. It is true that Christianity calls for one to 'turn the other cheeck', in other words allow violence to be done even unto death and enslavement without fighting back. If one allows such enslavement, then those enslaved and any ensuing generations are like as not to be raised as Muslims and accept the tenets of Islam. Doesn't this mean that these innocents will be relegated to eternal death and not accepted into heaven to partake in eternal life? Acceptance of Jesus as a personal savior is the only way to eternal life, at least according to the Christians I have talked to. So you see, the eventual death of Christianity is baked into the cake along with the eternal damnation of the descendants unless one is determined to fight back against violence with violence, which the teaching of Christ disallows. Have I gotten the wrong idea here? There is an irony to this.

The problem is not with Christianity, but with the interpretation thereof.

If Christ allegedly eschewed all violence, then His "work" in the temple, whipping the crap out of moneychangers, was hypocrisy. I assert this is not the case.

Christ commanded His disciples to carry weapons, even to the point of foregoing an important garment (Luke 22:36). Also note that when Peter pulled his sword out to defend Christ, he was not told to "throw the instrument of Satan away," but to "put it back in its place." Christ had to die, and, He taught Peter a lesson that one who is eager to engage someone with violence will end up on the receiving end of same violence.

Turning the other cheek is a commandment for one's personal enemies, especially important in a time when a verbal insult could lead to a fatal blood feud. It does not mean watching one's wife be raped, and standing there, "I must look the other way because my preacher said that's what Jesus wants me to do." Likewise with "do good to those who hate you." woodman, you and I had an especially nasty "interaction" sometime back, and, I could have persisted in being angry at you and send evil thoughts your way. Instead, I reached out to you in the recent past. That is the teaching of Christ.

Christianity has many apparent contradictions. Christ made clear that the faith has many hidden truths, correctly interpretable only by His genuine disciples. Christ also said we must approach Him as a child, with total trust. I have chosen to do that, and routinely things that "made no sense" become clear. I don't possess "absolute truth," except in the sense of having the Absolute Truth in the person of Christ. But things have been, and continue to be, revealed to me.

Most of the "Christianity" one sees in the world, especially in this almost unprecedentedly evil era, is a thin veneer of what it really is, a style thereof, with little to no substance. A brand name even. A Jesus™ brand commodity. Go to "church" one day per week, and screw everyone the other six days. Preach about holiness and commitment to God's principles, and then screw the church secretary after the sermon.

When one approaches Christ with earnest desire, what one experiences is unexplainable, unimaginable prior to doing so. Historically, and as the Bible teaches, only a minority do this.

[crimethink]

This is MASOCHISM invented by jews....This is not a paradox. This is insanity.

As you know, historically, Christianity was the socio-political glue that enabled Europe to stand against Islamic satanists. Would the Odinist Vikings have stood against Islam? Hell no! They collected blonde slaves and sold them to the devils! Charles Martel and King Jan III Sobieski, two of the greatest of Europeans, and Christian leaders.

Yes, the perversion of Christianity you refer to was invented by Jews.

However, real Christianity is the most "anti-Semitic" of ideologies in the history of the world. The Jews rightly attribute National Socialism's "anti-Semitism" and even "the Holocaust™" to Christian Germanic thought, especially from Martin Luther.

The Bible promises the Jews (and all other anti-Christs) a real holocaust, in the Lake of Fire.

Claiming that true Christianity "serves the Jews" is - ironically - doing that very thing, serving the Jews, who have always been Hell-bent on erasing the work of the Messiah.

[woodman]

The problem is not with Christianity, but with the interpretation thereof.

If Christ allegedly eschewed all violence, then His "work" in the temple, whipping the crap out of moneychangers, was hypocrisy. I assert this is not the case.

Christ commanded His disciples to carry weapons, even to the point of foregoing an important garment (Luke 22:36). Also note that when Peter pulled his sword out to defend Christ, he was not told to "throw the instrument of Satan away," but to "put it back in its place." Christ had to die, and, He taught Peter a lesson that one who is eager to engage someone with violence will end up on the receiving end of same violence.

Turning the other cheek is a commandment for one's personal enemies, especially important in a time when a verbal insult could lead to a fatal blood feud. It does not mean watching one's wife be raped, and standing there, "I must look the other way because my preacher said that's what Jesus wants me to do." Likewise with "do good to those who hate you." woodman, you and I had an especially nasty "interaction" sometime back, and, I could have persisted in being angry at you and send evil thoughts your way. Instead, I reached out to you in the recent past. That is the teaching of Christ.

Christianity has many apparent contradictions. Christ made clear that the faith has many hidden truths, correctly interpretable only by His genuine disciples. Christ also said we must approach Him as a child, with total trust. I have chosen to do that, and routinely things that "made no sense" become clear. I don't possess "absolute truth," except in the sense of having the Absolute Truth in the person of Christ. But things have been, and continue to be, revealed to me.

Most of the "Christianity" one sees in the world, especially in this almost unprecedentedly evil era, is a thin veneer of what it really is, a style thereof, with little to no substance. A brand name even. A Jesus™ brand commodity. Go to "church" one day per week, and screw everyone the other six days. Preach about holiness and commitment to God's principles, and then screw the church secretary after the sermon.

When one approaches Christ with earnest desire, what one experiences is unexplainable, unimaginable prior to doing so. Historically, and as the Bible teaches, only a minority do this.

Good explanation, thank you. I think that Christ would want his children to remain free and fight like tigers to insure that their race and civilization should not perish. I know that horrible things have been done in the name of Christianity but this can be said doubly for Islam and triple for Judaism. Yes, the Prince of Peace went APESHIT on the money changers and I believe we should afford them no less.

[horseshoe3]

Woodman, I'd also like to point out that if your theory were correct, Christianity would have died out shortly after the ascension. At that time, the total number of Christians was in the low triple digits, both the Jews and the Romans wanted them gone. They were too small in number to resist even if they wanted to. They had to go underground.

But the funny thing is that throughout history, the Church has survived and even flourished during times of persecution. In the entire history of the US, we (Christians) have had it pretty easy. It's just beginning to get a little difficult. The numbers will surely plummet, but the intensity of the remnant will increase as it always has in difficult times.

[Jewboo]

... and I have to agree with book



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[woodman]

Woodman, I'd also like to point out that if your theory were correct, Christianity would have died out shortly after the ascension. At that time, the total number of Christians was in the low triple digits, both the Jews and the Romans wanted them gone. They were too small in number to resist even if they wanted to. They had to go underground.

But the funny thing is that throughout history, the Church has survived and even flourished during times of persecution. In the entire history of the US, we (Christians) have had it pretty easy. It's just beginning to get a little difficult. The numbers will surely plummet, but the intensity of the remnant will increase as it always has in difficult times.

I am just thinking out loud and looking for answers. I don't believe we have been under the same pressures before as a race that we are now. I get what you are saying but I still believe I have a valid point about the passivity of Christianity and the internal corruption (look at the new pope) that we are seeing. Mass media has been extremely effective and we are seeing a type of society wide brainwashing that I don't think has been effected before the modern age. I personally don't give a rat's ass about Christianity itself. It can go to hell. I don't believe that religion and god are connected. Religion is simply a belief system. God is beyond belief. God is love. We are stuck here in the temporal world unless we are mystics and sages. Then we are beyond this struggle.

I am concerned with personal freedom and the survival of my people and my family. Just how, pray tell me, will the turn the other cheek tenet of Christianity keep our people safe from the genocide that will surely come in ever more frequency and amplitude? Christians better pick up the sword and become men once again. The time to act is now, not when we are a bunch of cornered refugees who willfully abandoned our own territory.

This is also a numbers game. If our women will not have many children, then we will surely die out. The time to reverse this is now. I don't think it will be reversed. It is depressing.

[Twisted Titan]

The only sane strategy is to try to hold out, hang on, until the promised Savior arrives. Avoid the cities, disconnect from unnecessary Mystery Babylon interfaces, keep to oneself, and rely on - and share with - only those whom you can trust with your life.



Well The Bible tells us that only a mere remnant are going to be saved and that is only because Yahweh swore a oath by His own name to our forefathers And to pull that off He will literally have to shorten The days because the delusion will be so strong even the very elect will be fooled for a short time.

Think about the implications of that.

If He doesn't shorten the Time ALL WILL BE LOST

I don't got any dam time to be jacking around with the Buddha , gia, great spirit and especially a Sabetian Moon GoD

[monty]

Former muslim woman says "they're here to kill you"


http://youtu.be/58w884vRrl0

https://youtu.be/58w884vRrl0

[Hillbilly]

Its funny the biggest loosers and complainers always seem to be the most religious.

[Norweger]

http://i63.tinypic.com/2irom69.png

[crimethink]

http://i63.tinypic.com/2irom69.png

That "quote" is sourced from Soviet Agent "Werther" aka Martin Bormann.

But, if Hitler really did say that - which is unlikely as he was well-aware of Islam as a race-mixing ideology - then Theodor Morell's drugs had done serious damage to his brain by that time.



http://smoloko.com/wp-content/uploads/HitlerChristianityMeme3-1.jpg

http://www.unbowedatheist.com/images/adolf_hitler-Chrisitan-morality.jpg

http://i.quoteaddicts.com/media/quotes/95/4730544-hitler-christianity-quotes.jpg

http://smoloko.com/wp-content/uploads/AdolfHitlerChristianQuote.jpg

[Norweger]

Well, you share your admiration for Charles Martel with the jews and their zionist lackeys thats for sure.

[crimethink]

Well, you share your admiration for Charles Martel with the jews and their zionist lackeys thats for sure.

At this point, I don't care any longer what the Jews, Jew tools, or anyone else do to Mooslims. Islam is a menace, and must be eradicated. Anyone who claims they truly love God and are interested in peace can convert to Christianity.

God knows there is no truth in you Mohammedan devils.

[Norweger]

So tell me, how would you go about destroying the fastest growing religion in the world?

[Twisted Titan]

By going to the people of the lost nations with The simple message of The Good News:

As told in Revelation 3:20-21



Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.......

He that have a ear let him hear......


The only thing that can stop a lie (even the fastest growing one) is The Truth.

[Hitch]

So tell me, how would you go about destroying the fastest growing religion in the world?

The only reason Islam is the fastest growing religion is because they are hellbent on destroying other religions and taking over the world.

All the other religions are too "peaceful" to try and stop it from happening. Personally, I believe the second coming of Jesus may be on the way, and everything will get sorted out. Those who harm and oppress others under Islam will be sent to hell to meet their prophet Muhammed.

[singular_me]

hellbent or not... western sponsoring of puppets like the Shah and Khomeini DID help a lot "islamic martyrdom'

The CIA, Khomeini, & Secrets of the Islamic Revolution ...(go to utube)

[crimethink]

So tell me, how would you go about destroying the fastest growing religion in the world?

A nuclear strike on Mecca would be the first step. Quarantine and deportation of people like you the second. Extermination for any Mooslims who violently resist being deported to Arabia.

[crimethink]

By going to the people of the lost nations with The simple message of The Good News:

As told in Revelation 3:20-21



Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.......

He that have a ear let him hear......


The only thing that can stop a lie (even the fastest growing one) is The Truth.

Nearly all Mooslims know about the Gospel, but choose to believe the lie that "Isa" (their "Jesus") is inferior to their Pedophile Muhammad. "Allah has no son." I John 2:22-23...applies to both Jews and Mooslims.

[crimethink]

The only reason Islam is the fastest growing religion is because they are hellbent on destroying other religions and taking over the world.

All the other religions are too "peaceful" to try and stop it from happening. Personally, I believe the second coming of Jesus may be on the way, and everything will get sorted out. Those who harm and oppress others under Islam will be sent to hell to meet their prophet Muhammed.

Indeed, disease spreads if remedies are not applied.

In this case, Islam is a cancer, and radiation therapy is desperately needed.

[Norweger]

A nuclear strike on Mecca would be the first step. Quarantine and deportation of people like you the second. Extermination for any Mooslims who violently resist being deported to Arabia.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6CuDWBxyBc

[Hillbilly]

My messiah can beat up your messiah ha ha! If you all only knew how infantile and crazy you looked to Atheists.

[7th trump]

The only reason Islam is the fastest growing religion is because they are hellbent on destroying other religions and taking over the world.

All the other religions are too "peaceful" to try and stop it from happening. Personally, I believe the second coming of Jesus may be on the way, and everything will get sorted out. Those who harm and oppress others under Islam will be sent to hell to meet their prophet Muhammed.

The two reasons why islam is fast growing is:

1. Its sponsored on the international level.
2. The correlation between islams treatment (slaves, sex slaves and murder) of nonbelievers is equal to the mentality of "gibsmedats".
We all know the "gibsmedats" want it all for nothing. They are racist, lazy and basically uneducated and islam fits like a glove for them to justify their committed inequities. Islam appeals to the gibsmedats to continue their selfish entitled ways.
Expect islam to grow faster in poor populated area's than Christianity which instructs you to pull yourself straight up by both booth straps out of self destruction mud...........something many do not wish to even think about.
They lie to themselves before they'll take a short glance at the truth!

[7th trump]

My messiah can beat up your messiah ha ha! If you all only knew how infantile and crazy you looked to Atheists.

Funny...I've never met a straight up moral trust worthy atheist. They tend to hang around shitty liberals and take their advice.
They are usually supported by public aid of christian nations.

[crimethink]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6CuDWBxyBc

Let the show begin! That's my point: if Allah is really a god, let him defend Mecca supernaturally, when the MIRV shrieks in at hypersonic speed. If he is not able to defend Mecca, the lie that is Islam is revealed for all to see.

Will Moon god Allah protect his holy vagina?

https://frankwmcarr.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/kaaba-stone.jpg

[crimethink]

My messiah can beat up your messiah ha ha! If you all only knew how infantile and crazy you looked to Atheists.

Atheism, like liberalism, is a serious mental disorder. Atheism should really be called autotheism, a particularly pathological form of narcissism.

[TroyOz]

My messiah can beat up your messiah ha ha! If you all only knew how infantile and crazy you looked to Atheists.

If you only knew how weak you look with those skinny arms and puffed out wings. :)

[Hillbilly]

Atheists take responsibility for themselves. Believing everything is ruled by an in invisible creater is mental illness. Most of the greatest minds in history were athiest.

[crimethink]

Atheists take responsibility for themselves. Believing everything is ruled by an in invisible creater is mental illness. Most of the greatest minds in history were athiest.

I guess if you consider Marx, Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin, and Mao to be "the greatest minds in history," then, sure. :rolleyes:

All the truly great scientists have believed in God.

As a man who has devoted his whole life to the most clear headed science, to the study of matter, I can tell you as a result of my research about atoms this much: There is no matter as such. All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind. This mind is the matrix of all matter.

-- Max Planck, “Das Wesen der Materie” (The Nature of Matter), speech at Florence, Italy, 1944 (from Archiv zur Geschichte der Max-Planck-Gesellschaft, Abt. Va, Rep. 11 Planck, Nr. 1797)

[Neuro]

So tell me, how would you go about destroying the fastest growing religion in the world?

It's very easy to become one, impossible to leave (death penalty on leaving the religion of 'peace'). Most are of course not converted to Islam today, unnecessary, since faithful Muslim shitskins have 6-10 children each, and due to Western practice medicine most survive childhood in combination with Cultural Marxism which makes sure all shitskins have good coverage of it.

I think best and quickest way of defeating Islam today, would be if the Chinese colonialized the Middle East. The West could celebrate the handover with the greatest firework show of the earth, the nuking of Mecca, and deportation of all Muslims to Arabia, as already suggested.

[Norweger]

It's very easy to become one, impossible to leave (death penalty on leaving the religion of 'peace'). Most are of course not converted to Islam today, unnecessary, since faithful Muslim shitskins have 6-10 children each, and due to Western practice medicine most survive childhood in combination with Cultural Marxism which makes sure all shitskins have good coverage of it.

I think best and quickest way of defeating Islam today, would be if the Chinese colonialized the Middle East. The West could celebrate the handover with the greatest firework show of the earth, the nuking of Mecca, and deportation of all Muslims to Arabia, as already suggested.

There are no consequences if you leave the religion in the west.. seems you are a bit obsessed with punishment for leaving and that you think that this is something that artifically inflates the numbers? Western medicine LOL.

[woodman]

There are no consequences if you leave the religion in the west.. seems you are a bit obsessed with punishment for leaving and that you think that this is something that artifically inflates the numbers? Western medicine LOL.

Western medicine is very adept at keeping children alive through to the reproductive stage of adulthood. It is very good at making them complacent idiots also. It is very good at milking out any productive activity by demanding money for pretending to combat disease which it in fact creates. It is an excellent question to ask, why has the west so willingly inflated the population of muslims worldwide, who will ultimately turn the earth into a gooey mass of mindless, low intellect, zombified humanity, drowning in its own secretions? The answer: Islam is the means by which they mean to defeat the only real enemy these Satanists ever had, that is Western Civilization. The parasite has used us against ourselves. "By way of deceit, so shall we wage war."

[Norweger]

Western medicine is very adept at keeping children alive through to the reproductive stage of adulthood. It is very good at making them complacent idiots also. It is very good at milking out any productive activity by demanding money for pretending to combat disease which it in fact creates. It is an excellent question to ask, why has the west so willingly inflated the population of muslims worldwide, who will ultimately turn the earth into a gooey mass of mindless, low intellect, zombified humanity, drowning in its own secretions? The answer: Islam is the means by which they mean to defeat the only real enemy these Satanists ever had, that is Western Civilization. The parasite has used us against ourselves. "By way of deceit, so shall we wage war."

Inflated the numbers of muslims worldwide.. you mean like how the USA has bombed things such as factories that create powdered milk for babies and that sort? Hindering trade with certain nations etc through the UN etc. That is your idea of inflating the numbers? Seems to me like America, the lapdog for jewry has done anything in its power to destroy muslim countries and thus hindering growth.

Ah yes, the idiotic claim that the jews created their own enemy.. it's as stupid as the saying that jews funded the savior of Europe.

[Norweger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1G0-kXMlWY

America "helping" muslims woodman style.

[Hitch]

Seems to me like America, the lapdog for jewry has done anything in its power to destroy muslim countries and thus hindering growth.


Name one Muslim country that's peaceful. You can't, because Islam is not only a religion, but a political structure based up destruction and violence.

[woodman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1G0-kXMlWY

America "helping" muslims woodman style.

Attacking the messenger boy. I have always expressed my disgust at the Jew SA attacking foreign nations for Israel. You failed to address the points I made in my post. It is all going according to plan and you are a willing dupe just like all the idiots fanning the flames of war in the States.

Millions, perhaps billions will die violent deaths because of the idiocy of Muslim immigration. We are being set up like tin cans to be knocked down. Just who profits off the mayhem? Those who have made an art of pitting rivals against each other.

[Hillbilly]

They greatest scientists have faked being religious in order to keep from being mudered by the bible believers. Remember the Inquisition?

[crimethink]

They greatest scientists have faked being religious in order to keep from being mudered by the bible believers. Remember the Inquisition?

The Inquisition? Is that where tens of millions of Christian people, including thousands upon thousands of scientists, were murdered by atheistic Marxism?

Oh, wait, you meant the ultra-hyped era where Catholic extremists killed less than one percent of the people atheistic Marxism killed.

Great scientists like Newton made clear their belief in and dependence upon Yahweh Almighty. Newton didn't just "go with the flow." He believed. Most other classic scientists were likewise. Even those who died, like Bruno, placed their faith in God.

[Neuro]

There are no consequences if you leave the religion in the west.. seems you are a bit obsessed with punishment for leaving and that you think that this is something that artifically inflates the numbers? Western medicine LOL.

What does the Koran state about leaving Islam? The fact that this isn't enforced in the west were Muslims is in a minority is besides the point.

Yes, western medicine, like antibiotics for infections that can turn deadly, nutrition, importance of a hygienic environment and hygiene in surgery, insulin for diabetes, stabilizing a patient in emergency care, blood transfusions, reducing fatal blood clots after surgeries and broken bones. These have reduced child mortality from more than 50% to less than a percent. You can add to that modern plumbing, refrigeration and central heating, combustion technology as part of hygiene. Which of these things had any significant input from Muslims?

[crimethink]

What does the Koran state about leaving Islam? The fact that this isn't enforced in the west were Muslims is in a minority is besides the point.

Yes, western medicine, like antibiotics for infections that can turn deadly, nutrition, importance of a hygienic environment and hygiene in surgery, insulin for diabetes, stabilizing a patient in emergency care, blood transfusions, reducing fatal blood clots after surgeries and broken bones. These have reduced child mortality from more than 50% to less than a percent. You can add to that modern plumbing, refrigeration and central heating, combustion technology as part of hygiene. Which of these things had any significant input from Muslims?

Islam has contributing nothing - absolutely nothing - to humanity. Mooslims like to conflate Arab contributions to humanity with "Islamic" contributions, but the fact of the matter is, the Arab contributions were in spite of Islam - and this is demonstrated by the fact the Arab world went into stagnated ignorance. Even today, places like Dubai are the product of infidel engineering. Watch some of the construction documentaries, for things like the Burj Khalifa. German, Dutch, British, and other European engineers and technicians.

[Alex Drone]

The only reason Islam is the fastest growing religion is because they are hellbent on destroying other religions and taking over the world.

All the other religions are too "peaceful" to try and stop it from happening. Personally, I believe the second coming of Jesus may be on the way, and everything will get sorted out. Those who harm and oppress others under Islam will be sent to hell to meet their prophet Muhammed.

Hitch, let me ask you something. How do you know and where do you get YOUR information from?

As a person who's traveled to 40 countries including Israel and every country that surrounds Israel, I learned when to be ignorant and when not to be. Below is some pictures I've taken a few years back. You want to guess where?

https://prisonplanets.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/zdb1_4182b.jpg
https://prisonplanets.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/zdb1_0919b.jpg
https://prisonplanets.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/zzp1120534.jpg
https://prisonplanets.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/zp1120409b.jpg
https://prisonplanets.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/zdb1_0814b.jpg

[Hillbilly]

Does not matter how many were killed. Great minds throughout the ages have always had to humor the religious zealots in power in order to prevent being murdered.

[Hitch]

Hitch, let me ask you something. How do you know and where do you get YOUR information from?

As a person who's traveled to 40 countries including Israel and every country that surrounds Israel, I learned when to be ignorant and when not to be.

I get some of my information from here, and it sounds like you have a lot to share on the subject from your personal experience. Hope you contribute more.

I'm seeking information. I don't know for sure, but am trying my best to learn the truth. However the more I learn, the more it seems Islam wants to take over the world...

If I'm wrong, and I hope I can be shown that I am...let me know. Norweger won't even reply to me and my honest questions, maybe you will.

[Dogman]

I get some of my information from here, and it sounds like you have a lot to share on the subject from your personal experience. Hope you contribute more.

I'm seeking information. However the more I learn, the more it seems Islam wants to take over the world...

If I'm wrong, and I hope I can be shown that I am...let me know.

Seeking truths is never bad thing

But searching for truth on this forum is not recommended

But I think you already know that

Call me, someday

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[Hitch]

Seeking truths is never bad thing

But searching for truth on this forum is not recommended



I'm at that point where I'm starting to think I'll never know the truth. Trump bans the media claiming they are fake, so I guess he wants us to put our blind trust in him...but is he telling the truth?

Every website has an agenda, some blatant, some hidden. They all post news that promotes that.

It's a fact, that people seek out news to further their belief system. They find news to re-enforce that..

So, when a member of a forum such as this, mentions they've been to 40 countries, has untold amazing experiences, probably good and bad, on a free to the public forum...yeah, I'm going to listen to what he has to say.

[Dogman]

I'm at that point where I'm starting to think I'll never know the truth. Trump bans the media claiming they are fake, so I guess he wants us to put our blind trust in him...but is he telling the truth?

Every website has an agenda, some blatant, some hidden. They all post news that promotes that.

It's a fact, that people seek out news to further their belief system. They find news to re-enforce that..

So, when a member of a forum such as this, mentions they've been to 40 countries, has untold amazing experiences, probably good and bad, on a free to the public forum...yeah, I'm going to listen to what he has to say.

There is no line, other than good vs bad,

Most people are good, there is hope

Fixing to crash, call me someday

In between be the best that you can be!

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[Alex Drone]

Hitch, I can't blame you or anybody. The disinformation is so pervasive and the media so extremely one-sided that the only way of knowing actual reality is to experience it yourself by going there. You could also browse through some travel guides such as by Bradt or Lonely Planet and read what the authors have to say. This much more accurately reflects reality than through most media outlets.

If you want to know the where the photos came from, check out my blog post: http://wp.me/p4L3Cy-xT

[Spectrism]

I'm at that point where I'm starting to think I'll never know the truth. Trump bans the media claiming they are fake, so I guess he wants us to put our blind trust in him...but is he telling the truth?

Every website has an agenda, some blatant, some hidden. They all post news that promotes that.

It's a fact, that people seek out news to further their belief system. They find news to re-enforce that..

So, when a member of a forum such as this, mentions they've been to 40 countries, has untold amazing experiences, probably good and bad, on a free to the public forum...yeah, I'm going to listen to what he has to say.

Trump doesn't ban media. Where do you get your information? The standard news media is corrupt and we have known it for decades. Under the Obama administration it got to a fever pitch of outright lying- fake news. Yeah, the liars should be banned. Trump has stopped feeding the liars and uses the more truth-speaking and accurate outlets for his communications.

As for traveling 40 countries- since when does that make you anything but a traveler? How wold you even think that makes someone a valuable reference? You know who travels many countries? Rich people, news reporters, politicians, retired people, tourists. It does not make them smart or honest. It makes them travelers.



Hitch, I can't blame you or anybody. The disinformation is so pervasive and the media so extremely one-sided that the only way of knowing actual reality is to experience it yourself by going there. You could also browse through some travel guides such as by Bradt or Lonely Planet and read what the authors have to say. This much more accurately reflects reality than through most media outlets.

If you want to know the where the photos came from, check out my blog post: http://wp.me/p4L3Cy-xT

Yeah, I checked out your blog. I honed in on this piece of work-
https://prisonplanets.wordpress.com/2016/09/26/the-creation-of-christianity-and-the-battle-against-the-jews/#more-1484

the dribble you post here says all I need to hear:


The Creation of Jesus and the 2000 Year Battle Against the Jews by Alex Gore

The Jews and Gentiles have been at war with each other for a very long time and I believe that Christianity came about as a way of dealing with the Jews. This is my conclusion after studying some of the Christian and Jewish scriptures. Josesph Atwill’s Caesar’s Messiah convinced me even further. Atwill illustrates that the New Testament Gospels actually parallels the military campaigns of Rome’s Titus Flavius, from Galilee to Jerusalem.


There is no evidence that a historical Jesus ever existed. Nothing in ancient writings from the time Christ supposedly existed ever mentioned a Messiah-like figure. The Jews, whom normally keep meticulous records of events and genealogies, do not mention a Christ-like figure stirring up commotions, berating the Jews, and being crucified, let alone one performing miracles such as walking on water and healing the blind. The only records of Jesus came about decades after Jesus supposedly lived and are from authors whom were among the most responsible for the creation of Christianity. The New Testament was written in Greek, not in Hebrew or Aramaic. Greek was the written language of the Romans at the time. Judea was part of the Roman empire.
The Old Testament and New Testament are diametrically opposed to one another. The Old Testament, which is mainly based on the Hebrew Bible or Tanakh, is written for the Jews while the New Testament is written against the Jews. A passage in Luke 20:22-25 even discusses Jesus sanctioning the payment of taxes to the Romans, which is something the Jews abhor.

and on....



You are a blasted fool.

[Hitch]

Trump doesn't ban media. Where do you get your information?

Here's one article from the washington post. Trump bans CNN, New York Times, and others from White House briefing. He didn't ban all the media, but just a few ones...but it's a start. Basically, Trump decides which media gets to attend his briefings. That is a very dangerous slippery slope for a President to do.

As another member said, by 2025 there will be only one news source. TNN, the Trump News Network. Trump hasn't earned my trust yet, I don't believe everything he says is true, and we need all sources of news media to find the truth.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/cnn-new-york-times-other-media-barred-from-white-house-briefing/2017/02/24/4c22f542-fad5-11e6-be05-1a3817ac21a5_story.html?utm_term=.18922cdb5b64

[monty]

Here's one article from the washington post. Trump bans CNN, New York Times, and others from White House briefing. He didn't ban all the media, but just a few ones...but it's a start. Basically, Trump decides which media gets to attend his briefings. That is a very dangerous slippery slope for a President to do.

As another member said, by 2025 there will be only one news source. TNN, the Trump News Network. Trump hasn't earned my trust yet, I don't believe everything he says is true, and we need all sources of news media to find the truth.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/cnn-new-york-times-other-media-barred-from-white-house-briefing/2017/02/24/4c22f542-fad5-11e6-be05-1a3817ac21a5_story.html?utm_term=.18922cdb5b64

Trump banned them from attending the Whitehouse press breifings because they don't truthfully report what is told to them.

He has not banned them from printing whatever lies they desire. Remember nowadays propaganda is legal.

[Hitch]

Trump banned them from attending the Whitehouse press breifings because they don't truthfully report what is told to them.

He has not banned them from printing whatever lies they desire. Remember nowadays propaganda is legal.

I know that's why he did it, if it stops there, maybe the media will become more truthful. It does set the stage for governmental censorship of the media though. That's the part I don't like, and the question must be asked, where does it stop? Is the only media going to be allowed, must be approved by Trump?

[Dogman]

I know that's why he did it, if it stops there, maybe the media will become more truthful. It does set the stage for governmental censorship of the media though. That's the part I don't like, and the question must be asked, where does it stop? Is the only media going to be allowed, must be approved by Trump? Slippery slopes indeed.

Trump hates to have his own words used against him, most press are honest but all do have a political slant or bias as everyone walking and talking on this mud ball we call home.

Most times he opens his mouth, if you want truth , do not heed what he says.

Sorta like many on this forum post and call truth, to them it is but in reality pure crap.

[monty]

I know that's why he did it, if it stops there, maybe the media will become more truthful. It does set the stage for governmental censorship of the media though. That's the part I don't like, and the question must be asked, where does it stop? Is the only media going to be allowed, must be approved by Trump?


That is a possibility, but the courts have have fiercly defended freedom of the press. I don't think the courts would allow government censorship to prevail. If somone blatanty misrepresents what you are saying and doing I belive you have a right to bar them from entering you briefings. But barring them from printing the news is an entirely different matter.

[Hitch]

If somone blatanty misrepresents what you are saying and doing I belive you have a right to bar them from entering you briefings. But barring them from printing the news is an entirely different matter.

This is a very good point, well said. In CA, you can imagine I'm pestered with a lot of anti-Trump folks. A lot of them think he's the next dictator who will censor the media, so I'll use your point to counter what they say.

[Alex Drone]

Yeah, I checked out your blog. I honed in on this piece of work-
https://prisonplanets.wordpress.com/2016/09/26/the-creation-of-christianity-and-the-battle-against-the-jews/#more-1484

the dribble you post here says all I need to hear:

You are a blasted fool.

I'm glad you took the time to read some of my posts. I still stand by much of what I said. If you want to argue about specific points I would be happy to do that. PM me if you want.

As for the countries I traveled to, yes I am an avid traveler and backpacker. So what is your point? I am not a reporter or journalist. I just wanted to share some of my experiences.

[Spectrism]

I know that's why he did it, if it stops there, maybe the media will become more truthful. It does set the stage for governmental censorship of the media though. That's the part I don't like, and the question must be asked, where does it stop? Is the only media going to be allowed, must be approved by Trump?

Government censorship???? You just lived through 8 years of an illegal alien pretend president whereby ALL the news media sanctioned him in without investigation. And you got no clue that the news media was owned by globalist controllers?

But now we have a president that is cutting through the lies and demanding truth in the news - and suddenly you are worried about censorship? Are you a bloody fool?

[Spectrism]

I'm glad you took the time to read some of my posts. I still stand by much of what I said. If you want to argue about specific points I would be happy to do that. PM me if you want.

As for the countries I traveled to, yes I am an avid traveler and backpacker. So what is your point? I am not a reporter or journalist. I just wanted to share some of my experiences.

My point was that you were just another vocal opinion. You had no facts. And you vocalized what is largely false. Do I want to discuss or debate with you? What would be the purpose? You have already invested enough opinion into your lack of facts and arguing opinions is pointless.

[Spectrism]

Slippery slopes indeed.

Trump hates to have his own words used against him, most press are honest but all do have a political slant or bias as everyone walking and talking on this mud ball we call home.

Most times he opens his mouth, if you want truth , do not heed what he says.

Sorta like many on this forum post and call truth, to them it is but in reality pure crap.

Most press are honest? Since when? I have watched them become worse and worse since the 1960s. And watching news reels of the 1950s I saw they were already infested then too. But in the last 8 years they have become entrenched and endorsed by the anti-American, ant-christian, anti-white forces.

Show me one thing Trump said in the last 2 months... or 6 months.... that was not true.

[Alex Drone]

My point was that you were just another vocal opinion. You had no facts. And you vocalized what is largely false. Do I want to discuss or debate with you? What would be the purpose? You have already invested enough opinion into your lack of facts and arguing opinions is pointless.
Why are you so hostile on this board? Again, if you want to argue about my points just send me a PM.

I guess you're offended by that article. I'm just trying to relay info that I've gathered from various sources. Like I said if I'm wrong, I would like your argument on specific points.

[Neuro]

Hitch, I can't blame you or anybody. The disinformation is so pervasive and the media so extremely one-sided that the only way of knowing actual reality is to experience it yourself by going there. You could also browse through some travel guides such as by Bradt or Lonely Planet and read what the authors have to say. This much more accurately reflects reality than through most media outlets.

If you want to know the where the photos came from, check out my blog post: http://wp.me/p4L3Cy-xT
Cool I was in Syria for a couple of weeks in 1992. Population pretty much doubled between then and 2011 when you were there. The impression I got of Syria then was a country, that was fairly liberal from an Islamic perspective, but some local people informed me that there were indeed 7 secret services, and the walls had ears. Of course back then it was the father Hafez Assad who was the ruler, and my general impression is that he was way more tight fisted than his son, which I think is the closest the Middle East has had to a western secular political leader, or at least the image westerners have of a western leader.

The Western Media portrayal of him like a brutal butcher, came like a shock to me when they started reporting on the war in 2011. The same happened in Turkey, the leader of Turkey, Erdogan, had nothing but praise for him until 2011, when suddenly everything was completely turned around 180°.

[Neuro]

What does the Koran state about leaving Islam? The fact that this isn't enforced in the west were Muslims is in a minority is besides the point.

Yes, western medicine, like antibiotics for infections that can turn deadly, nutrition, importance of a hygienic environment and hygiene in surgery, insulin for diabetes, stabilizing a patient in emergency care, blood transfusions, reducing fatal blood clots after surgeries and broken bones. These have reduced child mortality from more than 50% to less than a percent. You can add to that modern plumbing, refrigeration and central heating, combustion technology as part of hygiene. Which of these things had any significant input from Muslims?

Norweger, you have been fooled into supporting something if it reaches its end goal will mean the end of civilized living on earth. And which right now is the primary tool of the Jews destroying the white race on earth. Primarily by outbreeding white people at their expense. It really is no coincidence that Soros fomented the Arab Spring, which led to civil wars aided by Soros puppets Obama/Clinton, pushing in millions of Arab and other Muslim refugees into Europe aided by Soros open society humanitarian orgs and fagpuppet Francis guilt ridding Catholics to be "Christian", and the cultural Marxism that have taken over previous Northern European Protestant societies following Germany's defeat in WWII.

This is the onslaught of white society we currently are under, if really is the end game!

[crimethink]

Does not matter how many were killed. Great minds throughout the ages have always had to humor the religious zealots in power in order to prevent being murdered.

Anyone who doubts or disputes that a creative force was required to create the order from chaos we see in the Universe is not a "great mind."

It takes far more faith to believe in "random chance" becoming our reality, than believing in a creative force simply making it.

Paul was right. There is no excuse. You can doubt Yahweh or Christ, but you cannot rationally doubt a creative force/intelligence behind all that is.

And, again, as for the numbers of folks killed, atheists hold the world records for that. Even if the mythical Six Million™ were true, Stalin, Mao, and Lenin exceed it.

[crimethink]

I'm at that point where I'm starting to think I'll never know the truth. Trump bans the media claiming they are fake, so I guess he wants us to put our blind trust in him...but is he telling the truth?

Every website has an agenda, some blatant, some hidden. They all post news that promotes that.

It's a fact, that people seek out news to further their belief system. They find news to re-enforce that..

So, when a member of a forum such as this, mentions they've been to 40 countries, has untold amazing experiences, probably good and bad, on a free to the public forum...yeah, I'm going to listen to what he has to say.

Trump has not "banned" a single organ of the controlled, anti-American media. They continue to do their "work" 24/7/365 against America and Western Civilization. He has, however, rightly labeled them as "fake news."

To establish the Truth, one must discern motives of messengers, the rationality of what is presented, and whether what is claimed generally "makes sense." With all due respect to Alex Drone, he is a self-proclaimed "expert," and, as such, is not, ipso facto, a messenger of "truth." You can't just accept what anyone - including myself - has to say, if it doesn't fit with what one knows (or should know).

Is a land and culture like Syria maligned in the controlled media? Yes! Is, therefore, Islam a "religion of peace?"? Hell no!

Discernment, my friend.

[crimethink]

Yeah, I checked out your blog. I honed in on this piece of work-
https://prisonplanets.wordpress.com/2016/09/26/the-creation-of-christianity-and-the-battle-against-the-jews/#more-1484

the dribble you post here says all I need to hear:

The Creation of Jesus and the 2000 Year Battle Against the Jews

by Alex Gore

The Jews and Gentiles have been at war with each other for a very long time and I believe that Christianity came about as a way of dealing with the Jews. This is my conclusion after studying some of the Christian and Jewish scriptures. Josesph Atwill’s Caesar’s Messiah convinced me even further. Atwill illustrates that the New Testament Gospels actually parallels the military campaigns of Rome’s Titus Flavius, from Galilee to Jerusalem.

There is no evidence that a historical Jesus ever existed. Nothing in ancient writings from the time Christ supposedly existed ever mentioned a Messiah-like figure. The Jews, whom normally keep meticulous records of events and genealogies, do not mention a Christ-like figure stirring up commotions, berating the Jews, and being crucified, let alone one performing miracles such as walking on water and healing the blind. The only records of Jesus came about decades after Jesus supposedly lived and are from authors whom were among the most responsible for the creation of Christianity. The New Testament was written in Greek, not in Hebrew or Aramaic. Greek was the written language of the Romans at the time. Judea was part of the Roman empire.

The Old Testament and New Testament are diametrically opposed to one another. The Old Testament, which is mainly based on the Hebrew Bible or Tanakh, is written for the Jews while the New Testament is written against the Jews. A passage in Luke 20:22-25 even discusses Jesus sanctioning the payment of taxes to the Romans, which is something the Jews abhor.

and on....

You are a blasted fool.

Wow, just wow.

"No evidence that a historical Jesus ever existed."

Only someone with a malevolent agenda could seriously write that.

Thanks for digging this revelation up.

Clearly, Alex Drone is a product of the very culture-management (Cultural Bolshevist) forces he claims to be against.

[crimethink]

Here's one article from the washington post. Trump bans CNN, New York Times, and others from White House briefing. He didn't ban all the media, but just a few ones...but it's a start. Basically, Trump decides which media gets to attend his briefings. That is a very dangerous slippery slope for a President to do.

Uh, no.

The corporate media have no "right" to attend White House press conferences. Obviously, there is limited space there, say, a few dozen seats, and not everyone gets an invite. I, for one, am glad to see real media, what Counterfeit News Network would call "fake news" media, attending these conferences in their stead.

And, until the conferences are not broadcast live for the American people to watch, there is absolutely no rational way one can argue Trump's trying to "control the media" (i.e., information). A live stream actually cuts out those who have been "controlling" what we see for decades.

[crimethink]

most press are honest

Of all the statements this guy has made on this forum, this one here is the clearest evidence he is on heavy drugs and/or suffers from advanced psychosis.

[Hitch]

Government censorship???? You just lived through 8 years of an illegal alien pretend president whereby ALL the news media sanctioned him in without investigation. And you got no clue that the news media was owned by globalist controllers?

But now we have a president that is cutting through the lies and demanding truth in the news - and suddenly you are worried about censorship? Are you a bloody fool?

I do see your point, but I still think we need to be vigilante. What you are suggesting, is to blindly follow Trump. As happy as I am he got elected, he's stirring the pot for sure, I think it could get out of hand. We could be replacing one type of censorship, for another.

Do you think that he might be just telling you what you want to hear? But, doing something different.

As I've said before, he hasn't earned my trust yet. But, he's our President, and I believe the best candidate available given the options.

[Hitch]

Trump has not "banned" a single organ of the controlled, anti-American media. They continue to do their "work" 24/7/365 against America and Western Civilization. He has, however, rightly labeled them as "fake news."

Right, and those news networks are taking a credibility hit (which affects their profits), furthermore puts them in a precarious position.

That position, is to either support Trump, or get punished financially.

CT, it's all about the money. If it's popular to bash Trump, they will for the ratings. If Trump tries to force them to spew to the masses his agenda, they will likely do so. For the money. That's what I'm concerned about, and that seems to be what's happening.

Banning certain networks from white house briefings is financial punishment. That's all it is. The news folks are basically prostitues who will bend and fold to any agenda that brings in more coin.

[Spectrism]

Why are you so hostile on this board? Again, if you want to argue about my points just send me a PM.

I guess you're offended by that article. I'm just trying to relay info that I've gathered from various sources. Like I said if I'm wrong, I would like your argument on specific points.


I have found so many people who were locked into their blindness and will insist they can see better than everyone else, that I have grown weary and wary of providing them an "argument". Maybe you are really seeking truth. Maybe you are just a misguided, immature ignoramus. That would be curable with truth if you had a love for the truth. Do you? Would you change your mind and throw away everything you have in exchange for the truth?

[crimethink]

That position, is to either support Trump, or get punished financially....If it's popular to bash Trump, they will for the ratings.


The leftist media does not have to "support" Trump. They only need to respect him. He's man enough to take criticism. The trouble is, the leftist media flat-out lies about him and his administration and his supporters. Not little lies, but huge whoppers, like the "Putin controls Trump" utter bullshit, and all the similar crap.



If Trump tries to force them to spew to the masses his agenda, they will likely do so. For the money.


The leftist media is less interested in money and much more interested in ideology. Ratings are suffering, and viewership continues to decline, yet outfits like Counterfeit News Network still won't reform themselves, and start TELLING THE TRUTH, since Trump or his "deplorables" might look a bit more human because of it.

The same goes for Holowood. Theatergoing is declining, disc sales are declining, and streaming (PPV or services) ain't making up for it, yet, Holowood continues the flood of sewage. Look at the Oscars. They're just doing a circle jerk with themselves, and think the little folks will follow along because, well, they are gods (celebrities), and the little people will surely worship them.




Banning certain networks from white house briefings is financial punishment. That's all it is.


If someone lied about you every day, all day, would you invite them to your home?




The news folks are basically prostitues who will bend and fold to any agenda that brings in more coin.

I can't agree. They are ideologues. Drunk on their own power and perceived power. They're demonstrably willing to sacrifice profit for ideology.

[Alex Drone]

Cool I was in Syria for a couple of weeks in 1992. Population pretty much doubled between then and 2011 when you were there. The impression I got of Syria then was a country, that was fairly liberal from an Islamic perspective, but some local people informed me that there were indeed 7 secret services, and the walls had ears. Of course back then it was the father Hafez Assad who was the ruler, and my general impression is that he was way more tight fisted than his son, which I think is the closest the Middle East has had to a western secular political leader, or at least the image westerners have of a western leader.

The Western Media portrayal of him like a brutal butcher, came like a shock to me when they started reporting on the war in 2011. The same happened in Turkey, the leader of Turkey, Erdogan, had nothing but praise for him until 2011, when suddenly everything was completely turned around 180°.
Awesome. That makes the two of us. I'm sure things have changed big in those 20 years. Wasn't it Hafez who destroyed much of the city of Hama? I know the younger Assad was real popular with his people. Every time I asked about him, people would give me the thumbs up. There were pro-Assad rallys that drew large crowds. When I was there in May 2011, this was right at the beginning of the ME uprisings. At the time things were fairly calm, but some people were starting to get nervous. There were curfews on some of the days. Daraa, which I eventually went to, had seen fighting just weeks before. Pretty sad what has happened to the country since. I also went to Egypt back in March of that same year. They had seen some commotion, but it was relegated to only a few areas. I'll probably do a post on this in the future.

[Alex Drone]

Wow, just wow.

"No evidence that a historical Jesus ever existed."

Only someone with a malevolent agenda could seriously write that.

Thanks for digging this revelation up.

Clearly, Alex Drone is a product of the very culture-management (Cultural Bolshevist) forces he claims to be against.

Sorry if I meant offense, because that was not my intention. I grew up as a Christian, but turned agnostic in college. I do respect a lot of the teachings of the New Testament, however.

[crimethink]

Sorry if I meant offense, because that was not my intention. I grew up as a Christian, but turned agnostic in college. I do respect a lot of the teachings of the New Testament, however.

I am completely perplexed at how anyone could seriously claim there is "no evidence" for Jesus Christ. One can call Jesus a mere man, a rebel, a reformer, even a terrorist, but "non-existent"? Only those who prefer Him not to exist could claim that. The Talmudists are the experts in that. I am not calling you a Talmudist, but, indeed, "a product of the very culture-management (Cultural Bolshevist) forces you claim to be against."

It's one thing to dispute something like the Letter of Lentulus, and quite another to dispute the rest (e.g., Flavius Josephus and Tacitus). Jesus Christ is actually better documented than many ancient historical figures, who are accepted without question, solely because their existence does not demand one make a moral choice.

Am I personally offended? No. I am troubled at the implication of what you wrote (and not merely the denial of Jesus Christ, but also the nonsense that the Old Testament is not compatible with the New Testament).

[Neuro]

Thanks for setting the record straight CT. Previously I was under the impression that Josephus Flavius had not mentioned Jesus Christ in his writings. I think I got that false opinion some 10 years ago watching Zeitgeist and various links posted by the masons/jew apologists at GIM1. I still believed he had existed, in that what happened in the first century AD with the emergence of thousands of followers of Christ wouldn't have been possible without Christ as starting point... I mean at these Times' late first century AD most people in the area would have known someone who knew someone who met with Christ, thus only 2 degrees of separation from an actual witness of Christ.

Anyway here is the evidence, provided by pro-Zionist Wikipedia no less, that Josephus wrote about Jesus...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus_on_Jesus

Sure one cannot be totally sure about the evidence, since no manuscript exist prior to 1100 AD. But Josephus Flavius was referred to in Christian scriptures from 3rd century AD, which would be prior to the Nicean council, specifically mentioning the crucifiction.

However, I would really like to know what the Vatican has in its library re early Christian scriptures. Probably quite a lot contradicting Catholic dogma.

[Spectrism]

If there was no Jesus as the Lamb of God, there could be no God- at least not one you could ever be on good terms with. The sacrifice of Messiah is to pay for (remove from us) the cost of sin. A true and perfect God will not tolerate sin (law violation) in His kingdom. Only through the perfect sacrifice are we able to be reconciled to God and dwell in His kingdom.

So, other religions like islam have this tremendous flaw. There is no remedy for sin. And if they claim there is no need for it, then they admit to worshiping a flawed god. So they really aren't religions but man-made control organizations.

[Neuro]

Let's not forget what this thread is about...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/Apostasy_laws_in_2013.SVG/640px-Apostasy_laws_in_2013.SVG.png

"Norweger" wants sharia law in Norway too!

[Alex Drone]

Clearly, Alex Drone is a product of the very culture-management (Cultural Bolshevist) forces he claims to be against.

The eventual goal of the Jewish NWO is to subvert/exterminate all Gentiles. I feel we should all be against this entity together regardless.

[Neuro]

The eventual goal of the Jewish NWO is to subvert/exterminate all Gentiles. I feel we should all be against this entity together regardless.
Don't worry, next time if you write something good, crimethink will probably be among the first to thank you... ;)

[crimethink]

The eventual goal of the Jewish NWO is to subvert/exterminate all Gentiles. I feel we should all be against this entity together regardless.

My point is that you are helping with that agenda, apparently unknowingly, when you attack Christianity.

[Alex Drone]

My point is that you are helping with that agenda, apparently unknowingly, when you attack Christianity.
There are actually a lot of things I like about the teachings in the New Testament, such as John 8:44. If more Christians actually respected the New Testament (instead of supporting the Zionists) I think the world would be better off.

[crimethink]

There are actually a lot of things I like about the teachings in the New Testament, such as John 8:44. If more Christians actually respected the New Testament (instead of supporting the Zionists) I think the world would be better off.

The Bible is a unified whole. Jesus Christ most certainly existed, and exists. Christianity remains the foundation of Western Civilization.

And, what Judeo-"Christians" hate most, is that Jesus Christ was the greatest "anti-Semite" of all time.

The "Jews" didn't create Christianity. Instead, the Talmudists hijacked Christianity, and turned it against Christendom. We once had Martin Luther, now we have John Hagee.

This is what is called denying the Christ:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdoEsr2OWYk

[Alex Drone]

The "Jews" didn't create Christianity. Instead, the Talmudists hijacked Christianity, and turned it against Christendom. We once had Martin Luther, now we have John Hagee.

No doubt the Church has been under Zionist subjugation for some time.

[monty]

Jan. 2016. Female Islamic professor: muslim men can rape non-muslin women . . . . . .


Muslim men can rape non-Muslim women to teach them a lesson, claims woman Islamic professor (http://www.india.com/news/world/muslim-men-can-rape-non-muslim-women-to-teach-them-a-lesson-claims-woman-islamic-professor-873381/?utm_content=buffer71da8&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer)

A female Islamic professor sparked controversy and a debate when she claimed that Allah (God) makes permissible for Muslim men to rape non-Muslim women in order to 'humiliate' them.

By India.com News Desk (http://www.india.com/author/newsdesk/)
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Washington, Jan 19: A female Islamic professor sparked a controversy when she claimed that Allah (God) makes permissible for Muslim men to rape non-Muslim women in order to ‘humiliate’ them. The astonishing claim was made by Suad Saleh, who is a professor from the renowned Al-Azhar University in Cairo, Egypt during the interview on Al-Hayat TV.

According to The Inquisitr News report, in the video posted by LiveLeak, Saud Saleh said that the rape is allowed during times of “legitimate war” between Muslims and their enemies. “The female prisoners of wars are ‘those whom you own.’ In order to humiliate them, they become the property of the army commander, or of a Muslim, and he can have sex with them just like he has sex with his wives,” Saleh was quoted as saying. (ALSO READ: Muslim leader Abdul Raheem Quraishi is dead) (http://www.india.com/news/india/muslim-leader-abdul-raheem-quraishi-is-dead-861052/)

While speaking on purchase of slaves from Asian countries for sexual purposes, Saleh said that Allah allows Muslim men to have sexual relations with slave women and that is ‘legitimate’. Saleh suggested that the only time it is acceptable for Muslim men to enslave a woman for sexual purposes is during a ‘legitimate war’ between Muslims and their enemies such as that with Israel.


http://youtu.be/6fo6vnx1BAQ

Saleh further said that enslaving and raping Israeli women is ‘acceptable’ and ‘encouraged’ in Islam. She also condemned Muslim men who are using East Asian women for sexual relationships. She said that only legitimately-owned slaves come from prisoners of war. After Saleh’s interview went viral on social media, Muslim community denounced the claims made by the professor and said that she is propagating a wrong image of Islam.



Published Date: January 19, 2016 10:29 AM IST | Updated Date: April 16, 2017 7:42 PM IST
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[Hitch]

Jan. 2016. Female Islamic professor: muslim men can rape non-muslin women . . . . . .

Why aren't the feminists screaming and raging over this? Oh, that's right, they support open borders with open arms welcoming this "religion of peace".

The irony of this all is astounding, actually. Islam is anti-freedom, anti everything our country stands for, and all those years of struggle to gain civil rights is just casually tossed aside now.

My recommendation to non-muslim women is to buy guns. Be ready to pop any muslim men who feel it's their right to assault them. Open the borders and welcome Islam! Great idea...stupid. People are effing stupid.

[Neuro]

Saleh further said that enslaving and raping Israeli women is ‘acceptable’ and ‘encouraged’ in Islam. She also condemned Muslim men who are using East Asian women for sexual relationships. She said that only legitimately-owned slaves come from prisoners of war. After Saleh’s interview went viral on social media, Muslim community denounced the claims made by the professor and said that she is propagating a wrong image of Islam
Yes it is the "image" of Islam that is wrong. So she shouldn't have said it like that. Otherwise most are ok with the raping of other sex slaves too. The only discussion is what constitutes "legitimately" owned slaves. Most would assume if you bought the girl, you own her, doesn't matter where she is from as long as it is an infidel.

Religion of piss!