View Full Version : Travelers Alarmed as Federal Agents Check IDs After Domestic Flight Lands
crimethink
24th February 2017, 03:42 PM
Before you say, "well, they 'have to' do it to 'catch criminals including illegals'," I will say I predicted this would come as a result of "immigration enforcement."
Internal passports - de facto or de jure - are a mark of a total government, no matter how much you like the current "leader."
https://www.wsj.com/articles/travelers-alarmed-as-federal-agents-check-ids-after-domestic-flight-lands-1487896769
Passengers arriving on a Delta flight from San Francisco to John F. Kennedy International Airport on Wednesday night were asked by U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials to produce identification as they exited the plane.
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Matt O’Rourke, a passenger, said that as the plane taxied to the gate, a member of the flight crew announced that everyone on board should have their papers ready to be checked by agents.
After a passenger asked the flight attendant to clarify what they wanted to see, the crew member explained that they were looking to inspect a government-issued ID, Mr. O’Rourke said.
Joshua01
24th February 2017, 07:52 PM
I have no problem with that actually.
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/fa/fa7eac86d290d1ae1c3d4bbd806ba88d8b0c157d7b600444c2 dca5c42f9a206c.jpghttp://www.dailystormer.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/you-have-to-go-back.gif
Before you say, "well, they 'have to' do it to 'catch criminals including illegals'," I will say I predicted this would come as a result of "immigration enforcement."
Internal passports - de facto or de jure - are a mark of a total government, no matter how much you like the current "leader."
https://www.wsj.com/articles/travelers-alarmed-as-federal-agents-check-ids-after-domestic-flight-lands-1487896769
Passengers arriving on a Delta flight from San Francisco to John F. Kennedy International Airport on Wednesday night were asked by U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials to produce identification as they exited the plane.
(...)
Matt O’Rourke, a passenger, said that as the plane taxied to the gate, a member of the flight crew announced that everyone on board should have their papers ready to be checked by agents.
After a passenger asked the flight attendant to clarify what they wanted to see, the crew member explained that they were looking to inspect a government-issued ID, Mr. O’Rourke said.
ximmy
24th February 2017, 08:40 PM
Inside the states there should be no "papers please."
Only at the borders, or for jooz... or blacks...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3tdU-ns5DQ
Jewboo
24th February 2017, 09:07 PM
Inside the states there should be no "papers please."
https://media.tenor.co/images/8525e390b3bd92fec30fe68e7c16258d/tenor.gif
:rolleyes:
Horn
25th February 2017, 08:02 AM
Oh federal agents were looking for someone convicted of a domestic assault....
If there aren't like 7 persons convicted with that on every domestic flight...
palani
25th February 2017, 08:10 AM
I never carry anything in my wallet that doesn't belong to me.
boogietillyapuke
25th February 2017, 12:31 PM
Dumbasses should have checked the passenger manifest and they would have noted that said suspect wasn't on the flight.
Could have called TSA, who is employed also by mother agency DHS and inquired if he passed through security to board flight. "What we have here, is failure to communicate".
midnight rambler
25th February 2017, 12:53 PM
I never carry anything in my wallet that doesn't belong to me.
What??!?!?!?!! You don't rely on any corporate state issued document(s) to establish who you are??
Why you fucking infidel terra-ist!!!
Dogman
25th February 2017, 12:54 PM
Dumbasses should have checked the passenger manifest and they would have noted that said suspect wasn't on the flight.
Could have called TSA, who is employed also by mother agency DHS and inquired if he passed through security to board flight. "What we have here, is failure to communicate".
Remember the dwi road checkpoints?
Also checked for warrants?
The way things are going again will be coming soon to your neighborhood?!
They will know who you are if they let you pass on!
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palani
25th February 2017, 01:32 PM
What??!?!?!?!! You don't rely on any corporate state issued document(s) to establish who you are??
What you do with any state issued docs ... make a copy on security paper, front and back (but first endorse the back of the doc being converted to private). Then go into MS Word and type out a simple declaration that "the above document is in my possession" under penalty of perjury OUTSIDE the U.S. of A. (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/1746) and put a notary jurat on the bottom. I generally like to place a little cookie under the notaries sign line "NOTARY PUBLIC / FOREIGN AGENT".
Then THIS document belongs to you and not the state.
[Should be interesting to note that you are declaring only that the paper you produced is in your possession and not the original].
crimethink
27th February 2017, 08:44 AM
And...Exit Visas!
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-26/welcome-aboard-first-us-marshals-will-scan-your-retina
For some 15 years, airport security has become steadily more invasive. There are ever more checkpoints, ever more requests for documents as you make your way from the airport entrance to the airplane. Passengers adapt to the new changes as they come. But my latest flight to Mexico, originating in Atlanta, presented all passengers with something I had never seen before.
We had already been through boarding pass checks, passport checks, scanners, and pat downs. At the gate, each passenger had already had their tickets scanned and we were all walking on the jet bridge to board. It’s at this point that most people assume that it is all done: finally we can enjoy some sense of normalcy.
This time was different. Halfway down the jetbridge, there was a new layer of security. Two US Marshals, heavily armed and dressed in dystopian-style black regalia, stood next to an upright machine with a glowing green eye. Every passenger, one by one, was told to step on a mat and look into the green scanner. It was scanning our eyes and matching that scan with the passport, which was also scanned (yet again).
Like everyone else, I complied. What was my choice? I guess I could have turned back at the point, decline to take the flight I had paid for, but it would be unclear what would then happen. After standing there for perhaps 8 seconds, the machine gave the go signal and I boarded.
I talked to a few passengers about this and others were just as shaken by the experience. They were reticent even to talk about it, as people tend to be when confronted with something like this.
I couldn’t find anyone who had ever seen something like this before. I wrote friends who travel internationally and none said they had ever seen anything like this.
I will tell you how it made me feel: like a prisoner in my own country. It’s one thing to control who comes into a country. But surveilling and permissioning American citizens as they leave their own country, even as they are about to board, is something else.
Where is the toggle switch that would have told the machine not to let me board, and who controls it? How prone is it to bureaucratic error? What happens to my scan now and who has access to it?
The scene reminded me of movies I’ve seen, like Hunger Games or 1984. It’s chilling and strange, even deeply alarming to anyone who has ever dreamed of what freedom might be like. It doesn’t look like this.
Horn
27th February 2017, 12:51 PM
He can think of that eyescanner as the bar code scanner at most registers.
His inventory or $s were being registered as leaving the U.S. Upon return it should be the same.
Scary shit if u ask me, i like the option of being able to flee any state with my booty if unwarrantable.
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