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palani
1st March 2017, 09:00 PM
isn't this a Hebrew thing? Where the brother takes on his siblings widow?
https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/beau-bidens-widow-hallie-dating-230900923.html
Beau Biden's Widow, Hallie, Is Dating His Married Brother Hunter: Read the Family Statements
Beau Biden’s widow, Hallie Biden, is dating his married brother, Hunter Biden — and the family is totally OK with it. According to Page Six, Hallie and Hunter, 47, started dating after the death of Beau, who died at the age of 46 after suffering from brain cancer in May 2015. Find out more in the video above, and detailed below.
Hunter, who shares three daughters with estranged wife Kathleen, told Page Six in a statement published on Wednesday, March 1: “Hallie and I are incredibly lucky to have found the love and support we have for each other in such a difficult time, and that’s been obvious to the people who love us most. We’ve been so lucky to have family and friends who have supported us every step of the way.”
The lawyer (who is the eldest son of former Vice President Joe Biden) and Kathleen wed in 2002 and separated in October 2015, five months after former Delaware attorney general Beau’s death.
The relationship has also been blessed by patriarch Joe and his wife, Jill Biden.
“We are all lucky that Hunter and Hallie found each other as they were putting their lives together again after such sadness,” the politician said in a statement to Page Six. “They have mine and Jill’s full and complete support and we are happy for them.”
According to Page Six, Kathleen declined to comment. Us Weekly has reached out to the Biden family for comment.
crimethink
1st March 2017, 10:38 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levirate_marriage
Neuro
2nd March 2017, 04:22 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levirate_marriage
I didn't know Bidens were Kurds... :)
Dachsie
2nd March 2017, 07:04 AM
"Beau Biden's Widow, Hallie, Is Dating His Married Brother Hunter: Read the Family Statements"
What I relate here is applies if all parties are validly baptized and wish to receive the sacraments within the traditional Catholic church.
If by 'dating" is meant that Hallie and Beau are having sexual relations, then Beau is committing adultery and Hallie is committing fornication because she is having extramarital sex and that would include having sex with either a married or an unmarried person. Beau is committing adultery because he is still married and if his estranged wife, Kathryn, is "dating" anyone, Kathryn is committing adultery.
Unless Kathryn and Beau get an annulment, and that's not as absurd as it sounds since the Church contracts with Acme Annulment Service for drive-through annulments these days handing out about 50,000 a year just in the US, then both are free to marry again, but if either Beau or Kathryn apply the modern definition of "dating", then they would be committing fornication.
If Kathryn dies before being divorced from Beau, then and only then is Beau free to marry anyone, but even then Beau cannot "date" Hallie in the modern sense of the word "date", but can only court Hallie in the traditional sense of the word.
But Joe Biden as been Catholic in Name Only for a very long time because he thinks and stands for in his public life murder of the unborn is A OK. The public life versus private life sanction or nonsanction of abortion is the Ted Kennedy cop out and it's a mortal sin too.
And the Catholic Church of today is abandoning what Christ said about adultery with their latest Amoris Laeticia document whereby Chaos Frank is allowing each pastor out in the parishes to decide on their own who to give Communion or not, and this " pastoral" exemption from defined Church dogma is also a form of heresy.
KJV verses below...
Matthew 19:9 - And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except [it be] for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
Romans 7:2 - For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to [her] husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of [her] husband.
Luke 16:18 - Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from [her] husband committeth adultery.
We may be confused on all this but Jesus Christ is clear and it is serious because if a person commits mortal sin, they are not in the state of sanctifying grace and cannot and will not enter the kingdom of heaven if they do not repent and confess before they die. God is the ultimate judge.
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The scribes and pharisees and sadducees of the time of Christ could not understand Christ's new testament law and His teachings were utterly radical and unacceptable to them because they were allowed to do all sorts of ungodly things under the old law regarding marriage and adultery, and that is why they were blind and could not see their Messiah.
Joshua01
2nd March 2017, 07:30 AM
There are not ordinary people. They're elites that don't play by the same rules as the rest of us.
crimethink
2nd March 2017, 02:36 PM
KJV verses below...
Matthew 19:9 - And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except [it be] for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
Romans 7:2 - For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to [her] husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of [her] husband.
Luke 16:18 - Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from [her] husband committeth adultery.
We may be confused on all this but Jesus Christ is clear and it is serious because if a person commits mortal sin, they are not in the state of sanctifying grace and cannot and will not enter the kingdom of heaven if they do not repent and confess before they die. God is the ultimate judge.
I do not condone adultery, and would love to see the Biblical (and Germanic) one man-one woman, for life model we should have.
But your statements here imply that tens of millions of families should be broken up to comply with the legalism you perceive in the Bible.
In fact, Christ said this:
"Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."
Clearly, one does not go to Hell for not complying with every single law and commandment, if one is washed clean by Christ. Even active teaching of error does not make it so!
And John says:
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
This is one of the major problems I have with Catholic doctrine, and why I am not a Catholic or the adherent of any organized religion; dogma in contravention of what Christ said.
Ultimately, one must hold on to Christ, and His gift, for salvation. No amount of adherence to doctrine saves, nor any violations thereof condemn. Only failure to embrace Christ condemns.
ximmy
2nd March 2017, 03:32 PM
isn't this a Hebrew thing? Where the brother takes on his siblings widow?
https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/beau-bidens-widow-hallie-dating-230900923.html
Beau Biden's Widow, Hallie, Is Dating His Married Brother Hunter: Read the Family Statements
Yes, that is the Kinsmen Redeemer like in the story in Ruth.
The role of kinsman-redeemer is found in Leviticus 25, in the case of an Israelite man’s death in which he fails to leave behind a son, the brother of the deceased man is commanded to take his widow as wife and both redeem the land and provide a son to carry on the deceased father’s name. This is Boaz’s alleged position as indicated by Naomi in Ruth 2:20 (http://biblia.com/bible/esv/Ruth%202.20) and it is this responsibility that Ruth pleads with Boaz to fulfill. Being the godly man that he is, Boaz graciously receives Ruth’s offer, but communicates that he is not the nearest kinsman-redeemer (Ruth 3:12 (http://biblia.com/bible/esv/Ruth%203.12)).
http://www.ligonier.org/blog/ultimate-kinsman-redeemer/
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