View Full Version : Very distressing recent changes in Trump's speech reversals
midnight rambler
5th March 2017, 08:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq4A6AvgkzI
midnight rambler
5th March 2017, 08:57 PM
Rense's take on Trump's recent changes in speech reversals -
http://rense.com/general96/trumpchange.htm
old steel
5th March 2017, 09:11 PM
So basically Trump is between a rock and hard place.
If he tries to follow through on his promises he gets deep sixed with extreme prejudice.
There is also the possibility they threatened his family.
If not he is their puppet, either way is their way, nothing changes and on with the agenda.
Just as a side note, does POTUS have a dog?
Glass
5th March 2017, 09:22 PM
What he should do is what he needs to do.
He's in a very deep swamp, over his head. Every now and then he is going to have to break the surface for air and see how far he has come. When he does he's going to hear all the critters croaking "Maccarthysm this" and "Russian Spy" that but he's got to keep on ducking and diving.
When the noises get louder you know the critters are disturbed. Just need to shut it out and keep going. So long as he does that he has a good chance. So long as people echo him, he's got a good chance.
Personally I still think he's the other side of the coin, It might be a bit burred and rubbed off in places. But I don't like marxist bolsheviks. When it comes to scum they are without equal.
old steel
5th March 2017, 09:48 PM
Still they are running really scared to need to totally harass and threaten the new Trump administration and in turn all the American people who put him into power.
Looks like they are losing their grip to me, or like you say the evil marxist bolsheviks wouldn't be putting up such an outrageous cry of death pangs.
crimethink
5th March 2017, 11:16 PM
Trump is a salesman, and has the confidence of millions.
Is that something to be happy about?
Twisted Titan
6th March 2017, 05:52 AM
Trump is selling hopium and he is doing his best to deliver the product.
It is much better than the SJW Kool-aid the halfrican and the wookie were selling
EE_
6th March 2017, 06:12 AM
Trump is a salesman, and has the confidence of millions.
Is that something to be happy about?
Um, that's how everything works, always has. People must have confidence in whatever is told them and for whatever they do.
singular_me
6th March 2017, 06:29 AM
monetary induced confidence (selling security in whatever form) is a CON-game, and even more so at that political level
politicians shouldn't be millionaires/billionaires to start with but "follow the money" is how it has been since ever. Indeed what is wrong with that picture ??? Just look at the state of the planet to have an idea. It has corrupted and subverted everything
anybody using duality to make a point will be proven a deception. Truth stands by itself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pa8pAdNbY4
StreetsOfGold
6th March 2017, 07:10 AM
Shortly After the election a friend sent me a a link to a site (can't find it at the moment) which Trump's team put together a survey to ask his constituents (voters) which area he wants to tackle first (sounds good right?)
So, I went and filled out the topics which I considered to be MOST important and they consisted of, mostly, the areas he campaigned on.
After the survey, the totals of what those who voted were given and (surprisingly) the number one line item that everyone wants Trump to address was the putting away of Hillary in prison.
I was a bit surprised myself and it was like a 63% over EVERY OTHER item including immigration.
This was HIS survey in which HE ASKED!
I have to ask myself, did he see this? Does it even matter to him?
Hillary is not even on his radar and, in fact, Hillary is, right now, living a posh high life among New York's Broadway folks hanging out with them and partying up with the child molesters involved on the Broadway "scene"
Hillary is not even being discussed by him or any of his cabinet and she has quietly been swept under the rug of obscurity.
Very strange and very inconsistent with what he asked of his voters.
singular_me
6th March 2017, 07:57 AM
I like the first 10mins and am downloading now...
a vast network of NON-profits working behind the scene ROFLOL
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQUkaEVe7II
crimethink
6th March 2017, 09:43 AM
Trump is selling hopium and he is doing his best to deliver the product.
Thank you for the admission.
"Hopium" = a drug with no substance behind it.
In other words, lies.
It is much better than the SJW Kool-aid the halfrican and the wookie were selling
They're damned lies...but they're "our" lies! :rolleyes:
crimethink
6th March 2017, 09:48 AM
Um, that's how everything works, always has. People must have confidence in whatever is told them and for whatever they do.
Do you enjoy being a mark?
But you're right, it's how everything works. And because people keep playing along, obediently, it never changes.
crimethink
6th March 2017, 09:50 AM
Shortly After the election a friend sent me a a link to a site (can't find it at the moment) which Trump's team put together a survey to ask his constituents (voters) which area he wants to tackle first (sounds good right?)
So, I went and filled out the topics which I considered to be MOST important and they consisted of, mostly, the areas he campaigned on.
After the survey, the totals of what those who voted were given and (surprisingly) the number one line item that everyone wants Trump to address was the putting away of Hillary in prison.
I was a bit surprised myself and it was like a 63% over EVERY OTHER item including immigration.
This was HIS survey in which HE ASKED!
I have to ask myself, did he see this? Does it even matter to him?
Hillary is not even on his radar and, in fact, Hillary is, right now, living a posh high life among New York's Broadway folks hanging out with them and partying up with the child molesters involved on the Broadway "scene"
Hillary is not even being discussed by him or any of his cabinet and she has quietly been swept under the rug of obscurity.
Very strange and very inconsistent with what he asked of his voters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPK7uStv6zA
http://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2016_20/1542681/160519-trump-clinton-0014_43b68e75ee8a5e932bc0b4007dccfc02.nbcnews-fp-1200-800.jpg
palani
6th March 2017, 10:00 AM
https://youtu.be/cYdpOjletnc
Spectrism
6th March 2017, 11:04 AM
crimethinker- I know you are disappointed that your gal Hillary did not get into power so you have to keep conjuring up fabrications about Trump. Oh, I know what you will say- and you have many times before.... that Hillary is not your choice. Your choice was to sit on your hands and be a critic. Your choice was to not take part in the political process because you are too pure. Well, it seems to me that the political process is just as dirty as it ever was- maybe a bit better with Trump, so why are you engaged in politics now?
old steel
6th March 2017, 11:22 AM
Thank you for the admission.
"Hopium" = a drug with no substance behind it.
In other words, lies.
They're damned lies...but they're "our" lies! :rolleyes:
Trump is Gods puppet President.
That is how God works, through others.
mick silver
6th March 2017, 11:33 AM
trump just playing a game with them , he letting them set there own trap
crimethink
6th March 2017, 03:25 PM
crimethinker- I know you are disappointed that your gal Hillary did not get into power so you have to keep conjuring up fabrications about Trump. Oh, I know what you will say- and you have many times before.... that Hillary is not your choice. Your choice was to sit on your hands and be a critic. Your choice was to not take part in the political process because you are too pure. Well, it seems to me that the political process is just as dirty as it ever was- maybe a bit better with Trump, so why are you engaged in politics now?
As always, the usual Spectrism of distortions and falsehoods.
I do not play the game of "elections."
I do not believe in "the lesser of two evils."
You do. And are proud of it.
crimethink
6th March 2017, 03:26 PM
trump just playing a game with them , he letting them set there own trap
The trap is for the Goyim, it was already sprung, and was set by those who decide what Trump is allowed to do.
Spectrism
6th March 2017, 03:43 PM
As always, the usual Spectrism of distortions and falsehoods.
I do not play the game of "elections."
I do not believe in "the lesser of two evils."
You do. And are proud of it.
Take a look for a moment at your post. In it you do exactly what you condemn. There is a word for that.
There is no such thing as a "game of elections". People are born with the ability and responsibility to choose things. It is part of being a sentient being that you make choices. Pretending you do not does not change the fact. You chose what to wear, eat, buy. You chose to pay taxes- although you pretend you don't. You chose to live in this land and under the laws derived by those elected officials you did not elect. No game. Serious business.
And here you are as the superior authority looking down on the choices others have made. If others only followed your superior leadership and not voted, we could have the perfect situation... which would be Hillary Clinton. Oh, of course you don't endorse Hillary or vote for her. But you are the one playing the game.... the mind game.
Lesser of two evils? Do you work for a perfect company? You do work right? Is it perfect or the lesser of many evils? You think you are untarnished and above it all? You live in your flesh. You think you are without sin?
Just the fact that you allow yourself to make any choices at all shows you are putting faith in a sin-tainted man.
crimethink
6th March 2017, 03:56 PM
There is no such thing as a "game of elections".
We know you're not stupid enough to actually believe that, so that leaves you must be dishonest in saying that.
People are born with the ability and responsibility to choose things. It is part of being a sentient being that you make choices. Pretending you do not does not change the fact.
You chose to vote for the "lesser" of two evils.
I chose not to participate in a fraud.
And here you are as the superior authority looking down on the choices others have made.
One of us is right. It's not you. If you were not so arrogant, I would not look with contempt on your spew. But you invite it, you ask for it. I'm happy to humbly educate someone, if they are willing to learn. You've proven you worship your model of the world, and are unwilling to accept that you might, just might, be wrong.
If others only followed your superior leadership and not voted, we could have the perfect situation... which would be Hillary Clinton.
What, exactly, has Trump given us that Hillary's masters would not have given us, or the converse? For, in fact, outside of the delusions within the Psychodrome, the masters of both are the same.
Every lie Trump tells is yours. You voted for it. No prosecution of the Clinton Crime Family. No reversal of DACA. No meaningful deportations of criminals en masse. No repeal of Obamacare. No end to endless & unnecessary war. There are dozens more. "Day One" promises and more.
Just the fact that you allow yourself to make any choices at all shows you are putting faith in a sin-tainted man.
I didn't vote. You did. You voted for a sin-tainted man.
Glass
6th March 2017, 08:14 PM
I think what is interesting is, the belief that your vote counts.
If one side wins then the loosing side cries fraud while the winning side claims a true count.
But neither side can bring themselves to conclude that the count is fraud all the time, every time. Just because "your" side won, doesn't mean that the count was not a fraud. People seem happy to accept a true count when they win and claim a fraud count when they lose.
In my opinion it's a fraud count all of the time. Every time. The voters do not get to chose who their leaders are. And if the count were a true count, the voters do not get to chose who their leaders are. Such important "choices" cannot be left to the masses and riff raff to make.
PatColo
7th March 2017, 08:47 AM
I've said it elsewhere; I think the true popular vote, if we could magically know it, was likely a landslide for DT-- 10 or greater % points.
-killary had an embarrassingly low yard sign, bumper sticker, other shwag presence.
-embarrassingly low internet buzz, twitter followers were > half HRC camp AstroTurf shills etc, and even with them, a small fraction of DT followers.
-shockingly few public rallies, at which she needed to have a lady gaga headline appearance, to half-fill a play room; and even then they were CGI/whatever filling in greater apparent attendance than who actually showed up. She knew the fake election was going to her, thus no need do her phony act at rallies for the peasants.
-coughing fits, physical collapse, followed by obvious body double.
Pizza gate changed (((TPTB's))) choice of "winner", so they handed it to DT, but with only a photo finish popular/EC "vote count."
PatColo
7th March 2017, 08:54 AM
BTW, I don't give much cred to the "speech reversals" thing.
Our language is composed of words, with proper pronunciations (regional accents aside), & proper grammar. Writing a good speech aint that hard.
If you or I were to read the same sentences, and that AU Oates guy reversed our recordings, I expect they'd find the same "backward messages."
I've listened to just a handful of Oates' appearances on Rense's show. Too annoying; Oates plays his reversals, and they just sound like garbled gibberish-- but Oates/Rense always put on their act, "Oh yes, so clear... they said XYZ... so clear, wow, very revealing!!" :rolleyes:
Spectrism
7th March 2017, 09:38 AM
You chose to vote for the "lesser" of two evils.
I chose not to participate in a fraud.
Really? Do you pay taxes? Of course you do. You support the fraud and voluntarily surrender any ability to direct it. Now how smart is that?
One of us is right. It's not you. If you were not so arrogant, I would not look with contempt on your spew. But you invite it, you ask for it. I'm happy to humbly educate someone, if they are willing to learn. You've proven you worship your model of the world, and are unwilling to accept that you might, just might, be wrong.
Keep talking. You keep proving the hypocrite you are.
What, exactly, has Trump given us that Hillary's masters would not have given us, or the converse? For, in fact, outside of the delusions within the Psychodrome, the masters of both are the same.
Many things. Are you really that confused and hate the truth?
Every lie Trump tells is yours. You voted for it. No prosecution of the Clinton Crime Family. No reversal of DACA. No meaningful deportations of criminals en masse. No repeal of Obamacare. No end to endless & unnecessary war. There are dozens more. "Day One" promises and more.
Every lie you tell is YOURS.
I didn't vote. You did. You voted for a sin-tainted man.
I voted for an improvement in liberties, a better regulated government, a removal of taxes used for things against my morals, a protection of my rights and a protection of our borders. You did not care about any of those from your high and mighty throne. Instead, you paid taxes to support the demons of last year.
Did you have health insurance last year?
crimethink
7th March 2017, 12:02 PM
I voted for an improvement in liberties, a better regulated government, a removal of taxes used for things against my morals, a protection of my rights and a protection of our borders.
You voted for even more support for anti-Christ "Israel," you voted for even more Jews in the US Government, you voted for even more billions for globalist war, you voted for even more corporatism in government, you voted for even more sexual assault by the TSA*.
Wow, you are definitely a moralist. :rolleyes:
* https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-06/tsa-warns-local-police-about-its-new-airport-pat-downs
Uncle Salty
7th March 2017, 02:26 PM
I don't think the Donald is going to give up without a fight.
I pray that is so. He might just say fuck it and tell the truth about everything he knows.
Threats obviously were made, but he might just call their bluff. I hope so.
Spectrism
7th March 2017, 06:11 PM
You voted for even more support for anti-Christ "Israel," you voted for even more Jews in the US Government, you voted for even more billions for globalist war, you voted for even more corporatism in government, you voted for even more sexual assault by the TSA*.
Wow, you are definitely a moralist. :rolleyes:
So you pay taxes and support the beast. How moral is that? You work in the beast system and use their fake money to support the international jew bankers. And here you whine about those who are working to improve things. If it is so bad here, why not just remove yourself to another country?
Alex Drone
8th March 2017, 10:23 AM
I think what is interesting is, the belief that your vote counts.
If one side wins then the loosing side cries fraud while the winning side claims a true count.
But neither side can bring themselves to conclude that the count is fraud all the time, every time. Just because "your" side won, doesn't mean that the count was not a fraud. People seem happy to accept a true count when they win and claim a fraud count when they lose.
In my opinion it's a fraud count all of the time. Every time. The voters do not get to chose who their leaders are. And if the count were a true count, the voters do not get to chose who their leaders are. Such important "choices" cannot be left to the masses and riff raff to make.
Today, politics is extremely polarized and I expect it to get worse - especially should the economy start to collapse. This left/right paradigm is really just a sporting event - like choosing your favorite team. While there has always been this element, I've never seen people so tenaciously cling to a certain candidate no matter how anti-liberty they actually are. People don't care about reality, they want to hear lies and rhetoric. It makes them feel good. I thought Obama fans were delusional, but Trump fans could certainly give them a run for their money.
crimethink
8th March 2017, 11:58 AM
This left/right paradigm is really just a sporting event - like choosing your favorite team.
Quoted for Truth!!
Spectrism
8th March 2017, 12:19 PM
Quoted for Truth!!
Today, politics is extremely polarized and I expect it to get worse - especially should the economy start to collapse. This left/right paradigm is really just a sporting event - like choosing your favorite team. While there has always been this element, I've never seen people so tenaciously cling to a certain candidate no matter how anti-liberty they actually are. People don't care about reality, they want to hear lies and rhetoric. It makes them feel good. I thought Obama fans were delusional, but Trump fans could certainly give them a run for their money.
Glad you found this dribble enlightening. When you thank a dork for saying Trump supporters are like Obama fans, you are the dork.
crimethink
8th March 2017, 12:37 PM
Glad you found this dribble enlightening. When you thank a dork for saying Trump supporters are like Obama fans, you are the dork.
You are the best confirmation of what Alex Drone said: you are every bit the blind, mindless ideologue as any Obama/Clinton supporter. Constantly in denial. You're Team Trump, and that's the end of it. Even to the point of claiming God is a fan of Team Trump.
singular_me
8th March 2017, 01:24 PM
actions speaking louder than words again ???
didnt even read it, the headline does enough for me
=======================
Banks are about to get a huge cash windfall thanks to Trump
Jeff Cox | @JeffCoxCNBCcom
Tuesday, 7 Mar 2017 | 2:43 PM ET
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/07/banks-are-about-to-get-a-huge-cash-windfall-thanks-to-trump.html
Spectrism
8th March 2017, 02:22 PM
You are the best confirmation of what Alex Drone said: you are every bit the blind, mindless ideologue as any Obama/Clinton supporter. Constantly in denial. You're Team Trump, and that's the end of it. Even to the point of claiming God is a fan of Team Trump.
Show where I said that or YOU are a liar.
There is a big difference between Trump and Obama/Clinton.
For which of these do you condemn Trump:
securing the borders
cutting of drug imports
cutting off illegal aliens
prosecuting illegal alien criminals
restoring manufacturing & jobs to US
cutting funding of abortion
protecting christian rights
protecting the right to carry arms and self-defense
reducing government & military costs
restoring military ability
restoring the neglected infrastructure
and many more... better than any president in modern history.
crimethink
8th March 2017, 06:03 PM
Show where I said that or YOU are a liar.
That's once. Two more times to deny your false christ (the "anointed") today.
Your insistence that God "anointed" Trump is infamous around here.
There is a big difference between Trump and Obama/Clinton.
Really?
I guess you prefer appearances over substance.
For which of these do you condemn Trump:
securing the borders
cutting of drug imports
cutting off illegal aliens
prosecuting illegal alien criminals
restoring manufacturing & jobs to US
cutting funding of abortion
protecting christian rights
protecting the right to carry arms and self-defense
reducing government & military costs
restoring military ability
restoring the neglected infrastructure
and many more... better than any president in modern history.
Kellyanne, is that you?
The DACA Scheme is ended with ONE SIGNATURE. Hasn't happened.
The number one issue of the Trump voters - prosecution of the Clinton Crime Family - taken off the table, permanently. "They're good people, I don't want to hurt them."
And you are seriously demented or under the influence to have written, "reducing government & military costs":
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-27/details-emerge-trumps-budget-54bn-boost-defense-big-cuts-foreign-aid-federal-agencie
Trump Seeks "Historic" $54 Billion Increase To Defense Spending
Like I said, you are an ideologue. No different than a Clintonista or Obamaton. Except, perhaps, that the Clintonista or Obamaton is willing to admit their messiah's agenda is intended to destroy traditional America.
Spectrism
8th March 2017, 07:59 PM
Man you are stupid and obstinate in your arrogant idiocy.
That's once. Two more times to deny your false christ (the "anointed") today.
Your insistence that God "anointed" Trump is infamous around here.
In-famous = not famous. You are anointed to be a moron. A broom pusher can be anointed to be a broom pusher. NEVER did I say that Trump was anointed to be Messiah. You keep repeating your lies and stupidity. I said it appears that Trump was anointed to be a modern day Cyrus. But you want to keep playing the role of accuser of the brethren. Consider yourself rebuked.
Really?
I guess you prefer appearances over substance.
So you see Trump the same as Obama/Clinton even as we watch all the Deep State and global powers scraping and scratching to take Trump down. You are blind to the work Trump is doing and he just got inaugurated short of 2 months ago. And in that time he is fighting demoncrats and repuglicans.... and assholes like you.
Kellyanne, is that you?
Why do you ask Satan?
The DACA Scheme is ended with ONE SIGNATURE. Hasn't happened.
One step at a time.
The number one issue of the Trump voters - prosecution of the Clinton Crime Family - taken off the table, permanently. "They're good people, I don't want to hurt them."
You really are stupid. The court system needs to be cleansed. The judges need to be put in place. You don't go stirring up crucial court cases only to have your enemy running the court system.
And you are seriously demented or under the influence to have written, "reducing government & military costs":
The military is in need of many things that will cost. Obama set about destroying our military, bleeding us financially and morally in wars, and wiping out anything good in America. When I said Trump is cutting military costs, I meant on excessively over-priced projects. He is making enormous great changes on many fronts.
Like I said, you are an ideologue. No different than a Clintonista or Obamaton. Except, perhaps, that the Clintonista or Obamaton is willing to admit their messiah's agenda is intended to destroy traditional America.
And like I said- you are a lying asshole.
Where did I say God is a fan of team Trump? You made the accusation. Show it. Oh. You can't because it was a lie. You are Satan.
Glass
8th March 2017, 09:02 PM
Trump is a very powerful adept /master mason. He is a Chaos magician. He got the job because he's more powerful a wizard than Hillary is a witch. This was what she had to accept in the end. The sign is Purple.
Consider the happenings since he got into the race and since he took the chair.
crimethink
8th March 2017, 09:42 PM
Trump is a very powerful adept /master mason. He is a Chaos magician. He got the job because he's more powerful a wizard than Hillary is a witch.
Quoted for Truth!
Spectrism
9th March 2017, 07:18 AM
Quoted for Truth!
That's the best you can say? You have been asked some simple questions to support your own assertions. I see you are avoiding them. Either you have no appreciation for Truth or you only find some truths convenient tools for weaving a self-serving story.
This thread is about Trump's works and words. From the start, you pretended to be too holy to engage in politics and fought against anyone who supported Trump. You have skin in the game and you are heavily invested to see Trump fail. You know that we know how bent you were on Trump failing. You were criticizing his works even before he took office! And now less than 2 months into his job and after doing some very good things, you try to ignore the good and fabricate losses by Trump. You are dishonest.
singular_me
9th March 2017, 07:39 AM
another interesting fact:
U.S. Drone Strikes Have Gone Up 432% Since Trump Took Office
Spectrism
9th March 2017, 07:45 AM
another interesting fact:
U.S. Drone Strikes Have Gone Up 432% Since Trump Took Office
Either you are a top-ranking military officer leaking out key data or you got that from some source. I am fairly certain the first choice is not so. So, what is your source?
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