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old steel
17th March 2017, 10:32 AM
Damn, this is, well just damn.
What else is there to say?
Loose Cannon by Cognitive Dissonance
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-16/loose-cannon
midnight rambler
17th March 2017, 12:03 PM
Interesting article but the writer could not be more wrong about Perot.
Horn
17th March 2017, 12:56 PM
They should have a name for it, something like Caesar syndrome may work...
woodman
17th March 2017, 01:06 PM
Interesting article but the writer could not be more wrong about Perot.
Perot backed out and threw the election.
He finally got down to 'brass tacks' at the end: "The only way to win is not to play at all." This is why I will not vote. Voting is an act of violence. By doing so you are agreeing to the system.
midnight rambler
17th March 2017, 01:13 PM
Perot backed out and threw the election.
He finally got down to 'brass tacks' at the end: "The only way to win is not to play at all." This is why I will not vote. Voting is an act of violence. By doing so you are agreeing to the system.
You weren't there. I was, from the very beginning therefore I am privy to info most aren't. As for 'backing out', Perot cares far more about his family than he did about becoming POTUS.
I agree with you about voting = consent to do 'whatever'. Even back in '92 I was not registered to vote.
Joshua01
17th March 2017, 01:18 PM
That's what Clinton meant when she called us Deplorables. We're like a deplorable virus attacking their world. We're in the way and must be removed for them to complete their construction of Utopia! Anyone who thinks peace is in the future for the US simply hasn't been paying attention, especially during the past year!
Dachsie
17th March 2017, 01:37 PM
That's what Clinton meant when she called us Deplorables. We're like a deplorable virus attacking their world. We're in the way and must be removed for them to complete their construction of Utopia! Anyone who thinks peace is in the future for the US simply hasn't been paying attention, especially during the past year!
Here is origin of word deplorables.
Hilary Clinton said in a September 2016 speech
" I think you could put half of Trump supporters into what I call a basket of deplorables. Right; their racist, sexist homophobic xenophobic islamophobic you name it, unfortunately there are people like that and he's lifted them up."
woodman
17th March 2017, 01:39 PM
You weren't there. I was, from the very beginning therefore I am privy to info most aren't. As for 'backing out', Perot cares far more about his family than he did about becoming POTUS.
I agree with you about voting = consent to do 'whatever'. Even back in '92 I was not registered to vote.
I believed even back then that he was threatened. I don't think he had a choice.
Tumbleweed
17th March 2017, 01:47 PM
I believed even back then that he was threatened. I don't think he had a choice.
Chip Tatum was CIA and in an interview with Ted Gunderson I believe he said he was told to neutralize Ross Perot but he refused. I have no doubt that another agent did neutralize him.
midnight rambler
17th March 2017, 02:10 PM
Chip Tatum was CIA and in an interview with Ted Gunderson I believe he said he was told to neutralize Ross Perot but he refused. I have no doubt that another agent did neutralize him.
The neutralization likely came through in a message from a *credible* source saying something like, "It sure would be a shame to have a funeral instead of a wedding, huh Ross."*
*Perot's daughter had a wedding coming up and Perot at the time said, "They want to disrupt my daughter's wedding and I'm not going to let that happen so I'm dropping out." Meanwhile the petition process to get Perot on the ballot in all 50 states that he was paying for out of pocket continued unabated (which cost Perot tens of millions), as if he didn't drop out.
Tumbleweed
17th March 2017, 03:39 PM
The neutralization likely came through in a message from a *credible* source saying something like, "It sure would be a shame to have a funeral instead of a wedding, huh Ross."*
*Perot's daughter had a wedding coming up and Perot at the time said, "They want to disrupt my daughter's wedding and I'm not going to let that happen so I'm dropping out." Meanwhile the petition process to get Perot on the ballot in all 50 states that he was paying for out of pocket continued unabated (which cost Perot tens of millions), as if he didn't drop out.
As I recall there were three steps to a neutralization. The first one was a warning, the second was a family member dieing, the third was the one that was warned was going to die.
old steel
17th March 2017, 04:22 PM
So then, this from comments section?
"Donald Trump: “I don’t want to hurt them. They’re, they’re good people."
That was the point where I realized Trump had been read the riot act. Dear Donald, the Clintons are OWNED PROPERTY and you are NOT the owner. You will leave them alone and say so publicly or
A) You and your whole family will die in a plane crash
B) Pictures of you engaging in bestiality and or pedo stuff will be published.
Or any combination thereof. Bill Hicks was right."
crimethink
17th March 2017, 08:26 PM
Ross Perot was intimately tied with the Military-Industrial Complex for decades before his run. His fortune was made from Federal contracts and contracts with megacorps, particular with HEW/HCFA (the Health Care Finance Administration now the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services).
He has been a System player most of his life.
The idea he was "threatened" to force him to drop out is untenable for the simple reason he didn't stay out.* His purpose was to draw off votes from Poppy Bush to assure a Clinton win.
* http://www.nytimes.com/1992/10/02/us/1992-campaign-overview-perot-re-enters-campaign-saying-bush-clinton-fail-address.html?pagewanted=all
crimethink
17th March 2017, 08:29 PM
So then, this from comments section?
"Donald Trump: “I don’t want to hurt them. They’re, they’re good people."
That was the point where I realized Trump had been read the riot act. Dear Donald, the Clintons are OWNED PROPERTY and you are NOT the owner. You will leave them alone and say so publicly or
A) You and your whole family will die in a plane crash
B) Pictures of you engaging in bestiality and or pedo stuff will be published.
Or any combination thereof. Bill Hicks was right."
Or Trump has been Part of the Problem all along.
http://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2016_20/1542681/160519-trump-clinton-0014_43b68e75ee8a5e932bc0b4007dccfc02.nbcnews-fp-1200-800.jpg
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bill-clinton-called-donald-trump-ahead-of-republicans-2016-launch/2015/08/05/e2b30bb8-3ae3-11e5-b3ac-8a79bc44e5e2_story.html?utm_term=.3b79ede67e6d
Cebu_4_2
17th March 2017, 08:34 PM
Ross Perot was intimately tied with the Military-Industrial Complex for decades before his run. His fortune was made from Federal contracts and contracts with megacorps, particular with HEW/HCFA (the Health Care Finance Administration now the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services).
He has been a System player most of his life.
The idea he was "threatened" to force him to drop out is untenable for the simple reason he didn't stay out.* His purpose was to draw off votes from Poppy Bush to assure a Clinton win.
* http://www.nytimes.com/1992/10/02/us/1992-campaign-overview-perot-re-enters-campaign-saying-bush-clinton-fail-address.html?pagewanted=all
Ideals of the thoughts of a lifelong twink. Your logic sucks fred.
midnight rambler
17th March 2017, 08:36 PM
Ross Perot was intimately tied with the Military-Industrial Complex for decades before his run. His fortune was made from Federal contracts and contracts with megacorps, particular with HEW/HCFA (the Health Care Finance Administration now the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services).
He has been a System player most of his life.
The idea he was "threatened" to force him to drop out is untenable for the simple reason he didn't stay out.* His purpose was to draw off votes from Poppy Bush to assure a Clinton win.
* http://www.nytimes.com/1992/10/02/us/1992-campaign-overview-perot-re-enters-campaign-saying-bush-clinton-fail-address.html?pagewanted=all
And you came to this conclusion because you were intimately involved with the effort and therefore have insider insight, right Fred? lol
crimethink
17th March 2017, 08:55 PM
And you came to this conclusion because you were intimately involved with the effort and therefore have insider insight, right Fred? lol
Yes, yes, yes, you were such an "insider" and so "enlightened" that you failed to recognize Perot was part of the Problem from the beginning.
I've recognized "elections" were fraudulent, and anyone allowed in a televised debate was no threat to "them" since I was 17.
Explain to us why Perot "dropped out" because he and/or his family were "threatened" yet then re-entered the race. The "threat" was neutralized? How? Reason dictates my explanation is correct.
midnight rambler
17th March 2017, 09:04 PM
Fred, I'm beginning to think you indulge in smoking crack.
crimethink
17th March 2017, 09:09 PM
Fred, I'm beginning to think you indulge in smoking crack.
Let the butthurt flow through you!
https://i.imgur.com/DqIJ5Ex.jpg
Horn
18th March 2017, 12:18 AM
Ross Perot were simply too short to be a U.S. President,
obviously a hedge placement to split what were at the time a strong Repug. base.
Ross Perot / Height - 5′ 5″
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