Are You Lost At Sea???

[singular_me]

the real bottom line is that if one doesnt own one's own body first, the sense of ownership can easily become a trap

I dont really agree with the philosophy of any of these videos (anymore) as a money-free advocate BUT they are extremely useful at teaching all the loopholes in "commerce" that imprison humans but also reveal all the loopholes to escape that very prison.

The speaker, in one of the videos, also stresses that if we do not reclaim our sovereignty by age 6 or 7, we are considered **lost at sea** and become property of the state. Thats an international law by the way. Any law in commerce must allow loopholes to bring back the balance to zero at any time... because this natural law is embedded in commerce to prevent people from taking over. It is however impossible to draft any commercial law otherwise. Mother Nature wins (every lie must have its counterpart, lie cannot exist without Truth)... hence... money doesnt need to exist when grasping all this. To me it certainly very convoluted to master all this to keep the system in near zero-balance, but if you really want to keep money as a framework, that's the way to go. KNOW THE LOOPHOLES ;D... or just accept the Law of Nature from birth (my point)


Of course, he sells his seminars on his website, what I do deplore, and I also think he should have more free materials on the net


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=13&v=GY2JBQqjRpE
In this video, Winston introduces himself and discusses the purpose behind Solutions In Commerce
https://www.youtube.com/user/WinstonShrout



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5l_oqqkADw


Published on Jun 13, 2014
On the June 11, 2014 edition of "Nature of Reality Radio" I welcomed Winston Shrout who is widely viewed as one of the world's foremost experts on commerce and admiralty/maritime law and discussed the who, what, when, where, why, and how of commerce and especially how it's related to the law. Commerce affects us in so many ways (even at a spiritual level) and Winston can help provide solutions on how to deal with it from a down to earth and spiritual perspective.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx4IzjEuqYA


Winston Shrout: Take Legal Ownership of Your Body Now! Your Body IS Real Estate!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUm_j_Al8ys

[monty]

Indictement for willful failure to file

https://www.justice.gov/opa/file/798176/download

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2016/03/federal_indictment_charges_hil.html

I don't know if he was convicted

the case is still open

https://www.plainsite.org/dockets/2ovpmrun7/oregon-district-court/usa-v-shrout/

[singular_me]

sure, it was too good to be true, thanks for posting that. But any article that he is in jail actually? Or is this just to spread fear?

but can we believe that lawmakers and fiat money printers are telling the truth... the cartel even sent the liberty dollar down the toilet.

FROM THE LINK: "Winston Shrout is one of the biggest sovereign citizen gurus of the last decade.

His site is still active: http://wssic.com/

the case can be won if there is an armada of lawyers challenging the current laws.

Or just go money-free ;D

[crimethink]

Ownership is an illusion. No one "owns" anything. You may have temporary, semi-exclusive control over a certain thing or piece of land, but that is all. Nearly every landowner, if using reason alone, understands that such land is rented/leased from the local taxing authority, and possibly some other entity, as well (like a "homeowner's association").

As for the body, there are two choices for ownership: God, or Satan. Jesus Christ owns my body, but, "oddly enough," I don't feel "owned." Can't say the same for those who choose Satan's ownership of their body. Those who imagine they are free and "own" their body because they can engage in whatever hedonistic practice gets them off are actually enslaved to those.

Do you fear who can kill the body, or who can kill the soul (spirit)?

[singular_me]

Ownership is an illusion. No one "owns" anything.

good, thats the first step toward the premise of a money-free society but how many people can accept that FIRST?

[crimethink]

good, thats the first step toward the premise of a money-free society but how many people can accept that FIRST?

Money is a tool, nothing more. But people have learned to worship money.

A money-free society is an impossibility so long as human beings choose wrong over right routinely. Your ideal is a noble one, but naive. Theoretical Communism (the epitome of a money-free society) shall remain an utopia - "no place" - because man desires to do evil more often than do good.

[palani]

Ownership is an illusion.

Do you notice the connection between ships and seas?

[crimethink]

Do you notice the connection between ships and seas?

You'd have a point if the suffix "-ship" and "ship" were traceable to the same root, but they are not.

[Horn]

A fiat state denominated money IS essentially a money free society, that already exists.

I'm for an actual bi-metal monied society in Utopia.

[palani]

You'd have a point if the suffix "-ship" and "ship" were traceable to the same root, but they are not.

Were you 'birthed' or did you arrive by c-section?

[midnight rambler]

Were you 'birthed' or did you arrive by c-section?

Regardless, we can be confident that Fred's mother abandoned him at the port of entry.

[Glass]

born unto Caesar?

ship, a vessel and the ship in friend-ship have the same core etymology. The origins of Ship means to scrape out or cut back, A kind of revealing ... I think of it; when it's a vessel, revealing of a hollow vessel. When its a friend, some one you count as a friend is someone you've come to know, who is revealed perhaps... not hiding anything? Not concealing ill will so you could accept them as a friend? I think it's more of an old english metaphorical thing... possibly something like, the ship was carved from the tree, the tree came from "a wood/forest" and people of the same wood or forest identified with each other.

Ship then seemed to evolve into something descriptive of a position or role. Your role is friend. Your role is lord. etc.

[crimethink]

Were you 'birthed' or did you arrive by c-section?

I arrived into this world as per the design of Yahweh Almighty.

[crimethink]

Regardless, we can be confident that Fred's mother abandoned him at the port of entry.

There's that meaningless shyster talk.

Your imbecility might have substance if not for the fact I don't have a redeemable birth certificate. LOL

[7th trump]

Lost at "C" huh?
Who here understands why Winston is being prosecuted for his stupidity?

Heres all you need to know to get on you on your way to becoming a state citizen (We the People).

This is telling you how the government is usurping your individual sovereignty and why.


(12) the term “Federal benefit program” means any program administered or funded by the Federal Government, or by any agent or State on behalf of the Federal Government, providing cash or in-kind assistance in the form of payments, (Social Security) grants, loans, or loan guarantees to individuals; and
(13) the term “Federal personnel” means officers and employees of the Government of the United States, members of the uniformed services (including members of the Reserve Components), individuals entitled to receive immediate or deferred retirement benefits under any retirement program of the Government of the United States (including survivor benefits).

Anything anyone else tells you is total bullshit....do not trust them...including Winston Shrout!

[monty]

Lost at "C" huh?
Who here understands why Winston is being prosecuted for his stupidity?

Heres all you need to know to get on you on your way to becoming a state citizen (We the People).

This is telling you how the government is usurping your individual sovereignty and why.



Anything anyone else tells you is total bullshit....do not trust them...including Winston Shrout!

Those of us like myself who spent our working years paying into Social Security because we were lied to, "you need a Social Security number to work", and now are collecting benefits because we were forced under threat of not having a job are permanently stuck in the "US Citizen" system. There is no realistic way to escape, even though the original contract was fraudulent because it was misrepresented.

The only people who are truly free are those who have never had a Social Security number or birth certificate and are not eligable for any cash or in-kind benefits or defered retirement.

[monty]

Thus writer was refering to the United States claiming title to the unappropriated land. It also illustrates the fact that a state citizen is a 'natural person' a corporate entity, dead in law.

​David Zion Brugger …And whereas, all Estates originate in and are of Inheritance vested by the Testament of Our Sovereign Testator Jesus, the Christ, because by Him all things consist, so that His act establishing the original Estate and state is regarded the highest in Law, for all other estates are derivative from and dependent upon that original Act, quando diversi desiderantur actus ad aliquem statum perficiendum, plus respicit lex actum originalem, for unum quod que est id quod est principalius in ipso, causa et origo est materia negotii, and His Reason for bringing His Estate into being always governs all within and every part derived from His Estate which He created, ratio legis est anima legis, and any act done against His Reason is not Lawful, nihil quod est contra rationem est licitum, the Policy of His Law for which His Estate is created governs all within and derived from it, for He is Perfection, and in Him is no corruption, evil, error, or sin:
Comment: Note this goes back to Genesis 1:1. This is highly critical, for without the original act of creation, there are no other estates, inheritable, corporeal, incorporeal, or otherwise. There is no creation without Law--God's Word is Law.
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David Zion Brugger And whereas, in that original Act, there is no Precept, Provision, or Warrant for a person dead in Law, i.e., a legal entity be it a natural person, corporation or any collection of natural persons, to have any Inheritance or any part in the Estate which is formed by, in, or from the original Act of Our Sovereign Testator Jesus, the Christ which, when extended, means that your corporation can have no part, i.e., a lien or shetar in or over, any estate derived from that original Act:

Comment: The person(s) we are referring to here are those who are "sons of Adam," the ones who rebel against God--'the natural man' (see I Corintians 2:14), covenant-breakers, whoremongers,, and the like. God separated them from the church of His Son when He ordered Adam out of the Garden of Eden. See Gen 3:22-24 noting particularly the reason for the banishment. These shall never have any inheritance in the Estate established by the original Act of Christ. God's Warrants to bondservants of Christ are given in Scripture: Eph 5:5 and Rev 21:8. Dead in Law (mortmain) are those dead to God, those Godless entities, who are without (outside the Body of) Christ--"…for without Me ye can do nothing" because no one can do an act without Authority of Law and not suffer for it. Note also Pr 21:16: "The man that wandereth out of the way of understanding shall remain in the congregation of the dead." Pr 21:16.
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[palani]

we were forced under threat of not having a job Every contract is voidable when duress or fraud is an element.


There is no realistic way to escape, even though the original contract was fraudulent because it was misrepresented
Reality is not controlled by fiction unless you happen to be in the colorable jurisdiction of OZ.

[7th trump]

Every contract is voidable when duress or fraud is an element.


Reality is not controlled by fiction unless you happen to be in the colorable jurisdiction of OZ.

And thats the problem...there is no fraud (from the government) or duress when signing a W4. The government tells you everything you need to know on every government form. The W4's fine print lists two statutes.......those two statutes alone are enough for anyone to be pointed in the correct direction.
Its your responsibility to look up YOUR rights....not the governments....and the Bill of Rights specifically outlines that fact.
And the government doesnt put a gun to your head to make you sign any government form.

[monty]

And thats the problem...there is no fraud (from the government) or duress when signing a W4. The government tells you everything you need to know on every government form. The W4's fine print lists two statutes.......those two statutes alone are enough for anyone to be pointed in the correct direction.
Its your responsibility to look up YOUR rights....not the governments....and the Bill of Rights specifically outlines that fact.
And the government doesnt put a gun to your head to make you sign any government form.

But the fraud occurred in 1956 when I was 14. I was told I 'must' get a Social Security number in order to get a job. It wasn't until the internet came along that I learned that we all had been lied to.

[singular_me]

but any ruling body can add whatever executive orders without our consent



Its your responsibility to look up YOUR rights....not the governments....and the Bill of Rights specifically outlines that fact.
And the government doesnt put a gun to your head to make you sign any government form.

[7th trump]

but any ruling body can add whatever executive orders without our consent

What exactly do you mean?

[7th trump]

But the fraud occurred in 1956 when I was 14. I was told I 'must' get a Social Security number in order to get a job. It wasn't until the internet came along that I learned that we all had been lied to.

The government didnt do any such thing.
Maybe the employer or maybe your parents did, but the government didn't.

In fact the government tells the opposite.
Regulation 301.6105-1d says the SSN is voluntary!

[monty]

The government didnt do any such thing.Maybe the employer or maybe your parents did, but the government didn't.In fact the government tells the opposite.Regulation 301.6105-1d says the SSN is voluntary!

Of course, they had to to keep it Constitutional.

But that information was not readily available. It was well hidden, probably on purpose. The employers and parents and school teachers all believed it was mandatory. Maybe it was on the form I signed, I don't recall and I don't believe I have a copy.

[7th trump]

Of course, they had to to keep it Constitutional.

But that information was not readily available. It was well hidden, probably on purpose. The employers and parents and school teachers all believed it was mandatory. Maybe it was on the form I signed, I don't recall and I don't believe I have a copy.

The statutes and accompanying interpretive regulations have never been hidden from the public. May not be in the form of availability as you would have likened but they were there for the publics view.
And there's the admitted problem........everyone "thought" it was mandatory when it was not.
301.6105-1d has been on the books since 1935 when social security was enacted.

[monty]

The statutes and accompanying interpretive regulations have never been hidden from the public.
And there's the admitted problem........everyone "thought" it was mandatory when it was not.

If one had access to the statutes and regulations, yes. but in 1956 in the small Nevada towns where was one to find access to the statutes and regulations? We didn't even have telephones where I grew up, let alone a law library. The information was purposefully difficult to find or there would have been no one participating in their scheme. They certainly didn't advertise it or teach it in the public schools. We were deceived because the information wasn't readily disseminated.

[7th trump]

If one had access to the statutes and regulations, yes. but in 1956 in the small Nevada towns where was one to find access to the statutes and regulations? We didn't even have telephones where I grew up, let alone a law library. The information was purposefully difficult to find or there would have been no one participating in their scheme. They certainly didn't advertise it or teach it in the public schools. We were deceived because the information wasn't readily disseminated.

It wasn't purposely hard to find.
Blaming the government because you lived in a small Nevada town is like blaming ford because you drove over the center line and caused an accident.
I ordered my title 26 books and accompanying regulations before there was an online access to such books

[crimethink]

The only people who are truly free are those who have never had a Social Security number or birth certificate and are not eligable for any cash or in-kind benefits or defered retirement.

No one is truly free in this world. One is either under the yoke of the Devil and his worldly governments, or under God's government. The latter is, of course, a mandated blessing. The former is in varying degrees of malevolent servitude.

The idea that anyone is "lawfully enslaved" to one of the Devil's governments because they have a certain number applied to them without full disclosure is pure idiocy. You have no obligation to the US Government by the fact you "obtained" or use(d) a Social Security Number.

7th dump is, of course, a willful, voluntary. conscious member of a satanic organization that serves the purposes of the Devil. But he likes to spew against everyone else.

[crimethink]

If one had access to the statutes and regulations, yes. but in 1956 in the small Nevada towns where was one to find access to the statutes and regulations? We didn't even have telephones where I grew up, let alone a law library. The information was purposefully difficult to find or there would have been no one participating in their scheme. They certainly didn't advertise it or teach it in the public schools. We were deceived because the information wasn't readily disseminated.

No contract exists when one or more parties are not provided full, open, overt disclosure. Hence, 7th dump's theory is horseshit. "The terms were hidden in some law book in Washington, DC" doesn't count.

You, and hundreds of millions of others, signed up for a Social Security number because: 1) it is "required" for employment; 2) it is "required" to do business with the Federal regime. It does not mean you are now in servitude to it through some Jew-jitsu scheme, as the forum spammer alleges. Anyone who claims there is a moral obligation to a contract that failed to provide full disclosure is a con man or a fool.

[crimethink]

I ordered my title 26 books and accompanying regulations before there was an online access to such books

Have you colored in all the pictures yet?

[Bigjon]

It wasn't purposely hard to find.
Blaming the government because you lived in a small Nevada town is like blaming ford because you drove over the center line and caused an accident.
I ordered my title 26 books and accompanying regulations before there was an online access to such books

You stink, because you are so full of shit.

You make lieyers look good.

[7th trump]

No contract exists when one or more parties are not provided full, open, overt disclosure. Hence, 7th dump's theory is horseshit. "The terms were hidden in some law book in Washington, DC" doesn't count.

You, and hundreds of millions of others, signed up for a Social Security number because: 1) it is "required" for employment; 2) it is "required" to do business with the Federal regime. It does not mean you are now in servitude to it through some Jew-jitsu scheme, as the forum spammer alleges. Anyone who claims there is a moral obligation to a contract that failed to provide full disclosure is a con man or a fool.

Ignorance is a strong point that runs in your family isnt it!

[palani]

the government doesnt put a gun to your head to make you sign any government form.
I have had a gun put to my head by someone who acted under authority of his 'government'. All pre-existing contracts were terminated with prejudice. Until government acknowledges and accepts responsibility for this state of affairs everything they do is related to pointing a gun to my head.

[7th trump]

You stink, because you are so full of shit.

You make lieyers look good.

You don't have to believe the truth but it would help.

[monty]

It wasn't purposely hard to find.
Blaming the government because you lived in a small Nevada town is like blaming ford because you drove over the center line and caused an accident.
I ordered my title 26 books and accompanying regulations before there was an online access to such books

The information may not be purposefully hard to find. But today close to 300 million Americans don't know that. Hospital administrators automatically enroll newborns into Social Security, if the parent objects they become aggressive. Most states request a Social Security number to get a drivers license, you can not enroll a child in public school without a Social Security number. I went throught that with my youngest son. It is almost impossible to get a passport without a Social Security number.

[7th trump]

I have had a gun put to my head by someone who acted under authority of his 'government'. All pre-existing contracts were terminated with prejudice. Until government acknowledges and accepts responsibility for this state of affairs everything they do is related to pointing a gun to my head.

Its too bad they hadn't already pulled the trigger.
One less idiot in the world.......and it would be a better world.

[palani]

It is almost impossible to get a passport without a Social Security number.
If you think that is hard try to get a case started in the judicial system without one.

[palani]

Its too bad they hadn't already pulled the trigger.
That is harsh. But then that is why you are alone.

[7th trump]

The information may not be purposefully hard to find. But today close to 300 million Americans don't know that. Hospital administrators automatically enroll newborns into Social Security, if the parent objects they become aggressive. Most states request a Social Security number to get a drivers license, you can not enroll a child in public school without a Social Security number. I went throught that with my youngest son. It is almost impossible to get a passport without a Social Security number.

Most people are stupid and don't care about such things. And when they do they act like palani and would rather believe the government is responsible than themselves..........conspiracies conspiracies and more conspiracies!

[7th trump]

That is harsh. But then that is why you are alone.

Nope not alone!
Girlfriend is laying next to me. Kids are in bed.

[7th trump]

If you think that is hard try to get a case started in the judicial system without one.

Just because you have as SSN doesn't mean shit.
I'm not statutorily " employed" ( look it up dumbthink its under 26usc 3121(b) EMPLOYMENT,.......for social security purposes)therefore who I work for doesn't have a w4 on file. I do however use it for identification purposes like disclosing it on court papers.
The SSN has multiple purposes.

[palani]

Girlfriend is laying next to me.
Right. And you are devoting yourself to your more satisfying internet life. Really believable.

[palani]

I do however use it for identification purposes like disclosing it on court papers. The SSN has multiple purposes.
Thank you for a prime example of the state of Ignorance. And that is what enslaves you.

[7th trump]

Right. And you are devoting yourself to your more satisfying internet life. Really believable.

You don't have to believe the truth, but then again why start now

[7th trump]

Thank you for a prime example of the state of Ignorance. And that is what enslaves you.

Not enslaved as you are.
No taxes being withheld here.

Don't believe me?
Look up a W4 form and read the fine print on the back. Then research the two statutes until you come across 6105. Then go look up the regulation on 6105.

[palani]

You don't have to believe
I don't have to go to work tomorrow either.

[crimethink]

Ignorance is a strong point that runs in your family isnt it!

I don't play shyster games. I deal in reality, not imaginary shit.

[crimethink]

Nope not alone!
Girlfriend is laying next to me. Kids are in bed.

I thought you followed the Bible? You are in blatant fornication.

[7th trump]

I don't play shyster games. I deal in reality, not imaginary shit.

Sure you play shyster games.......your lips move don't they?

[7th trump]

I thought you followed the Bible? You are in blatant fornication.

Hmmmm.......since when is it a biblical crime to lay next to a female on the couch?

Are you admitting you are breaking the commandment of false witnessing?

Sometimes dumbthink its best to keep your mouth shut.

[midnight rambler]

I thought you followed the Bible? You are in blatant fornication.

Really Fred, I was sure you knew by now that the Communist dung beetle is full of shit.

[7th trump]

I don't have to go to work tomorrow either.

I do, but I'm not involved in anyway with 26usc 3121(b) "Employment" either.
Its been awhile ......it could be 3121(c) employment

[7th trump]

Really Fred, I was sure you knew by now that the Communist dung beetle is full of shit.

Then stupid shows up for dumbthinks rescue.

[7th trump]

I don't play shyster games. I deal in reality, not imaginary shit.

I think your jealous that all attention is focused on as subject you absolutely have no experience or knowledge of so you pop in trying to recoup attention to yourself.

[Jewboo]

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/9e/6b/2c/9e6b2c9107048d7e44263808608b58ff.jpg

:rolleyes:

[crimethink]

I do however use it for identification purposes like disclosing it on court papers.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7c/Social_security_card.gif/400px-Social_security_card.gif

[7th trump]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7c/Social_security_card.gif/400px-Social_security_card.gif

Wow you really are ignorant.
The card itself stupid.........the card Is not to be used as identification.
It has no picture and therefore not to be used as an ID.

And to think you just stated you deal in reality.........laugh......the .......f@ck........out......loud!

[crimethink]

Hmmmm.......since when is it a biblical crime to lay next to a female on the couch?


You're not a good liar.




Are you admitting you are breaking the commandment of false witnessing?


What is it I witnessed? You confessed.

[7th trump]

You're not a good liar.




What is it I witnessed? You confessed.


I said
Im laying next to the girlfriend on the couch?

You're false witnessing that I have sex with the girlfriend.

You're lying!!!

[Hitch]

I said
Im laying next to the girlfriend on the couch?

You're false witnessing that I have sex with the girlfriend.

You're lying!!!

Premarital sex is against the Bible.

You need to marry this woman and take her as your wife. God IS watching.

[crimethink]

Premarital sex is against the Bible.

You need to marry this woman and take her as your wife. God IS watching.

He thinks he can con people into believing he does not engage in fornication with her, even "only" in his heart. Matthew 5:28

He doesn't even need a license; just exchange life promises to be each other's, with God as the witness. Done. Is he man enough to do that?

[crimethink]

I said
Im laying next to the girlfriend on the couch?

You're false witnessing that I have sex with the girlfriend.

You're lying!!!

Abstain from all appearance of evil.

1 Thessalonians 5:22


I don't like the term "Bible thumper," but, ya know what, YOU are a Bible thumper. The worst. Everyone is "ignorant," or "stupid," or whatever insult you want to defecate out of your mouth. Yet you have inadvertently admitted you are a willful sinner, in direct contravention of either Christ's - or Paul's - command. You're either a fornicator or someone who has refused to avoid the appearance of evil. I bet on the former, actually.

We are all sinners, but I don't pretend, like you, to be the proverbial "holier than thou" on all things and in all matters.

[7th trump]

Premarital sex is against the Bible.

You need to marry this woman and take her as your wife. God IS watching.

This is why I consider you as equal to a retard.
By your own words all boyfriend and girlfriend are sinners because laying on the couch watching the tv, having a social dinner or going to the movies is equal some how in your retarded brain to premarital "sex".

Hey moron...God is watching you being a complete idiot by taking His words out of context.

[7th trump]

Abstain from all appearance of evil.

1 Thessalonians 5:22


I don't like the term "Bible thumper," but, ya know what, YOU are a Bible thumper. The worst. Everyone is "ignorant," or "stupid," or whatever insult you want to defecate out of your mouth. Yet you have inadvertently admitted you are a willful sinner, in direct contravention of either Christ's - or Paul's - command. You're either a fornicator or someone who has refused to avoid the appearance of evil. I bet on the former, actually.

We are all sinners, but I don't pretend, like you, to be the proverbial "holier than thou" on all things and in all matters.

So laying on the couch watching TV with the opposite sex is the appearance of evil.

How about going to the movies sitting next to each other? Is that too the appearance of evil? How about jumping on the motorcycle and taking a day trip around the country side?
Or how about bringing a woman on board a boat and having dinner and a few drinks like Hitch does?
You are the dumbest bible thumper I've come across....a Biblical Fool!

[7th trump]

He thinks he can con people into believing he does not engage in fornication with her, even "only" in his heart. Matthew 5:28

He doesn't even need a license; just exchange life promises to be each other's, with God as the witness. Done. Is he man enough to do that?

You have to be the dumbest biblical fool I know!
Like I keep saying about you....30% intelligent and 70% giving lip service to yourself.

Laugh....the...f%ck....out....load!

[crimethink]

So laying on the couch watching TV with the opposite sex is the appearance of evil.

How about going to the movies sitting next to each other? Is that too the appearance of evil? How about jumping on the motorcycle and taking a day trip around the country side?


For 19 centuries, Christians followed Paul's command, and prohibited a boy and a girl or a man and a woman who were unmarried from being alone together in a private place. Courtship activities were chaperoned after arranged marriages faded away. Now, we have the "dating" model, which you clearly follow.

You take everyone here for a fool, claiming that your "activities" are entirely limited to platonic endeavors.

Who's kids were in bed, BTW? Yours? Born out of wedlock? Or is one of you divorced? Which other Biblical commandments are you violating? You who claim you are holier than thou, all of us.

You have been exposed, boy.

[ximmy]

Sailing over wave and tide
Fantastic waves against our sides
And I'm not so afraid
Lost at sea, as i should be
And I'm not so afraid
Lost at sea, you and I, you and me

Congratulations
Cause we've made it
All the way home
All the way home
And you know that
Until the stars fall
I will always love you
I will always love you


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdKUwncnwvg

[Jewboo]

Congratulations
Cause we've made it
All the way home
All the way home
And you know that...



http://christiegee.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Screen-Shot-2016-03-16-at-6.02.30-PM.png

What things were really inspiring you this time around?
Definitely the fact that I have two daughters now. I have some songs on there that were inspired by them or about them. I think you can't help but write about being a parent and having children once you have them. I don't think people will put on the record and not be able to relate to it if they don't have children. My writing style, I tend to cloak things and they sound whimsical. It doesn't sound too specific. It's not something people won't be able to wrap their minds around if they don't have kids...

[7th trump]

For 19 centuries, Christians followed Paul's command, and prohibited a boy and a girl or a man and a woman who were unmarried from being alone together in a private place. Courtship activities were chaperoned after arranged marriages faded away. Now, we have the "dating" model, which you clearly follow.

You take everyone here for a fool, claiming that your "activities" are entirely limited to platonic endeavors.

Who's kids were in bed, BTW? Yours? Born out of wedlock? Or is one of you divorced? Which other Biblical commandments are you violating? You who claim you are holier than thou, all of us.

You have been exposed, boy.

Get a load of this crack whore giving himself some daily lip service.

Seems Paul has serious problems with "his" commands ...some tend to go against God.
http://www.jesuswordsonly.com/books/318-pauls-command-not-to-help-young-widows.html

[Horn]

I have rethunk this thread and realized that I am surrounded by pirates, without a common law.

[crimethink]

Get a load of this crack whore giving himself some daily lip service.

Seems Paul has serious problems with "his" commands ...some tend to go against God.

Ah, so you do not believe the Bible is inerrant or authoritative or wholly God's word.

Which books do you subscribe to? Which do you not? Which "Christian" guru do you embrace, telling you which verses and books to accept?

[7th trump]

Ah, so you do not believe the Bible is inerrant or authoritative or wholly God's word.

Which books do you subscribe to? Which do you not? Which "Christian" guru do you embrace, telling you which verses and books to accept?

I dont subscribe to any denomination.
I've only come across one other person who knew what 666 was. And he was an even more advent reader of the Bible than I. And he didnt take any denomination either.
I can safely say the church goers will be the first to take the number....then the atheists last.

Lets get back on topic.
Do you know what causes your income to be taxable?
Income wasnt taxable for most Americans until 1940. Wasnt a war tax or any public salary tax issue either.
HINT: it was enacted in 1935. Didnt find its way in Title 26 until the 1939 revise tax code.
Basically do you know what 26usc 3401(a) "wages" (box 1 on a W2) are?
And what causes money to get classified as 26usc 3401(a) "wages"?

[monty]

https://www.ssa.gov/history/35act.html#TITLE%20VIII

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[crimethink]

Lets get back on topic.

No, let's stay on a much, much more important topic: which books of the Bible do you reject? You already claim Paul contradicts Jesus, which means you do not believe in the inerrancy of the Bible. You reject Paul's words because he rebukes your "adult" behavior.

[7th trump]

No, let's stay on a much, much more important topic: which books of the Bible do you reject? You already claim Paul contradicts Jesus, which means you do not believe in the inerrancy of the Bible. You reject Paul's words because he rebukes your "adult" behavior.

Ummmm...who said I reject anything?
What adult behavior? I was simple on the couch with the girlfriend watching tv.
You like to fill in the blank a lot with what you want to hear.
God hates chatty gossipers like you. You do know that dont you? He detests that behavior.
Why do you commit false witnessing?

So its obvious you dont know anything much about taxes or how they are imposed. Interesting!
So why did you pop in the thread only to peter out so quickly?

[monty]

Winston Shrout found guilty on 19 charges


http://youtu.be/3lViT0SB6ZE

https://youtu.be/3lViT0SB6ZE

[singular_me]

and what does it mean... that when you fight for FREEDOM you go to jail?

that does mean that he is a fraud... but our criminal system say so

WHY JAIL TIME
Man who failed to pay taxes for 20 years found guilty
Government lawyers argued Shrout aimed to cheat the Treasury and banks, and preached his illegal schemes to hundreds of others in paid seminars across the country and abroad.

He purposely sent a package of 1,000 homemade International Bills of Exchange, each purporting to be a legal tender for a trillion dollars, to a small community bank in Chicago "hoping to slip one by an unsuspecting banker,'' U.S. Tax Division trial lawyer Scott Wexler told jurors.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2017/04/man_who_failed_to_pay_taxes_fo.html

right, he wrote illegal document while we all use counterfeit. We all know how they can twist their own reporting... and after 20 years they take action? The evidence they are lying!!

Most likely they jailed him because more and more people were following his advice... as long as he was a lone lunatic, he was no danger, because he was RIGHT.

that is the system we live in... people would rather see real freedom advocates going to jail while white collar crime is taking down the planet

Shrout will start his sentence in august... Id bet that there is an appeal coming

ps: I am no shrout supporter because I think there are other means to address the issues, such as going money free ;D

[singular_me]

the more I know about money the more I am convinced that it was meant to be that way since day 1. This is true evil genius, telling people that money can buy freedom to enslave them... diabolical indeed

Redemption Of Your Strawman Account
birth certificate as a promissory note

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPu63CTqK1M


I just have started this one that I obviously missed when it came out in 2015

Strawman - The Nature of the Cage (OFFICIAL)
The Nature Of The Cage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sArXw6ajNg

GLASS' THREAD
Winston Shrout indicted for Failing to File
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?89009-Winston-Shrout-indicted-for-Failing-to-File&highlight=WINSTON+SHROUT

[Horn]

You're only pissed cause u have too little Real gold and silver money. ;)

[ximmy]

Down pour on my soul
Splashing in the ocean
I'm losing control
Dark sky all around
Can't feel my feet
Touching the ground


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNGLU_VsePg

[Horn]

Ximmy too, cant make pieces of eight out of her collectible pretty things...:rolleyes:

[ximmy]

Ximmy too, cant make pieces of eight out of her collectible pretty things...:rolleyes:

Pieces of eight
The search for the money tree
Don't cash your freedoms in for gold
Pieces of eight
Can't buy you everything
Don't let it turn your heart to stone


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7s2WizN2os

[Horn]

Obviously you've been illumimated by the same creators of "domo arigato, mr roboto"

[singular_me]

resolving the equation is much more of a philosophical issue, one cannot fight for something one will never possess

the suffering stems from the educational system that teaches one otherwise, and what was sounding like a lunatic thought until recently.... this time jobs will not come back.


You're only pissed cause u have too little Real gold and silver money. ;)

[ximmy]

Obviously you've been illumimated by the same creators of "domo arigato, mr roboto"

Don't be fooled by the radio
The TV or the magazines
They show you photographs of how your life should be
But they're just someone else's fantasy

[Horn]

Every breath yous take has been lived already by someone, somewhen.

Only your experience is the difference of 3


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubVc2MQwMkg

[ximmy]

This one is for singular_me... :)

Used to play pretend, give each other different names, we would build a rocket ship and then we'd fly it far away
Used to dream of outer space, but now they're laughing at our face singing "wake up, you need to make money", yeah


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXRviuL6vMY

http://az616578.vo.msecnd.net/files/2016/05/27/635999591599933431-1813059823_top.jpg

[Jewboo]

Lets get back on topic.



:rolleyes:

[Horn]

There was a time when meadow, grove, and stream,
The earth, and every common sight,
To me did seem Apparelled in celestial light,
The glory and the freshness of a dream.
It is not now as it hath been of yore;—
Turn where soe'er I may, By night or day,
The things which I have seen I now can see no more.

.To me alone there came a thought of grief:
A timely utterance gave that thought relief,
And I again am strong:
The cataracts blow their trumpets from the steep;
No more shall grief of mine the season wrong

.
But there's a tree of many, one
A single Field which I have looked upon,
Both of them speak of something that is gone:
The Pansy at my feetDoth the same tale repeat:
Whither is fled the visionary gleam?
Where is it now, the glory and the dream?

...

[singular_me]

excellent... BRILLIANT!!! On the promissory note, just imagine that many people start doing this, after following shrouts' guidelines


What Banks, Governments and federal Law Firms Hope You Never Discover Mortgage Fraud Scam Exposed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi7TscCIo_g


definitely a BIG eye opener, yes sorry from a black guy who GOT IT. He has plenty of materials on YT, in the same vein as shrouts

The Birth Certificate pertains to Real Estate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0fBzz0AKNw