Scandal: MRI Brain Imaging Completely Unreliable

[singular_me]

Well at least it generated millions --if not billions-- for hospitals and clinics

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Scandal: MRI Brain Imaging Completely Unreliable
20 March 2017 GMT

By Jon Rappoport

Fake news on a grand scale.

Over the years, I’ve exposed a number of medical diagnostic tests. For example, the antibody test was once taken as a sign of good health when it registered positive, but then it was turned upside down—a positive result was read as a signal of illness.

Now we have the vaunted MRI brain-imaging system.

From sciencealert.com (7/6/16): “There could be a very serious problem with the past 15 years of research into human brain activity, with a new study suggesting that a bug in fMRI software could invalidate the results of some 40,000 papers.”

“That’s massive, because functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) is one of the best tools we have to measure brain activity, and if it’s flawed, it means all those conclusions about what our brains look like during things like exercise, gaming, love, and drug addiction are wrong.”................

“To test how good this software actually is, Eklund and his team gathered resting-state fMRI data from 499 healthy people sourced from databases around the world, split them up into groups of 20, and measured them against each other to get 3 million random comparisons.”

“They tested the three most popular fMRI software packages for fMRI analysis – SPM, FSL, and AFNI – and while they shouldn’t have found much difference across the groups, the software resulted in false-positive rates of up to 70 percent.”

“And that’s a problem, because as Kate Lunau at Motherboard points out, not only did the team expect to see an average false positive rate of just 5 percent, it also suggests that some results were so inaccurate, they could be indicating brain activity where there was none.”

“’These results question the validity of some 40,000 fMRI studies and may have a large impact on the interpretation of neuroimaging results’, the team writes in PNAS [Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences].”

“The bad news here is that one of the bugs the team identified has been in the system for the past 15 years, which explains why so many papers could now be affected.”

“The bug was corrected in May 2015, at the time the researchers started writing up their paper, but the fact that it remained undetected for over a decade shows just how easy it was for something like this to happen, because researchers just haven’t had reliable methods for validating fMRI results.”

40,000 scientific papers invalidated. And from what I gather, not everyone is sure all the problems with MRI have been corrected.

FULL
http://www.naturalblaze.com/2017/03/scandal-mri-brain-imaging-completely-unreliable.html


The hideous BAM in Obama: map your brain for your own good
by Jon Rappoport
February 18, 2013
https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2013/02/18/the-hideous-bam-in-obama-map-your-brain-for-your-own-good/

[Glass]

“They tested the three most popular fMRI software packages for fMRI analysis – SPM, FSL, and AFNI – and while they shouldn’t have found much difference across the groups, the software resulted in false-positive rates of up to 70 percent.”

“And that’s a problem, because as Kate Lunau at Motherboard points out, not only did the team expect to see an average false positive rate of just 5 percent, it also suggests that some results were so inaccurate, they could be indicating brain activity where there was none.”

did they differentiate between democrat and republican subjects?

[Joshua01]

We can't really differentiate between the honest medical advancements and the quackery any longer. So much of what we were 'taught' has been proven to be utter bullshit. On top of that people are stupid and will believe anything they're told, which makes things even worse

[Dachsie]

Very sad what has happened to the practice of medicine, especially here in the USA.

There are untold thousands, probably tens of thousands, of people in the US who have mild - to -serious auto-immune type symptoms. The immunologists and other medical specialties haven't a clue whether the patient has an identifiable auto-immune disease and those doctors charged with dealing with the patients' symptoms haven't a clue as to how to treat them.

I think it would be a positive use of this forum to start a few threads to offer help and sharing expeiences for dealing with these vague undiagnosable conditions. That is where the power of these truly free speech forums shows. People helping people with information and guidance that does not cost a penny.

Tired of playing the "ain't it awful game" about just complaining about the atrocities of medical care to them and their friends and families. Let's try to offer some positive insights.

[crimethink]

The state of "health care" is attributable to two things. No, one is not "government interference."

The first one is that "health care" is profit-motivated. HUGE profit-motivated. Not "we must keep costs in check to maintain solvency," but rather "we are entitled to endless unearned profits/dividends at the expense of the sick and injured."

The second is "health care professionals" are motivated by personal gain beyond the profit; prestige, glory, and privileges. They make up shit to "get published," which is required to continue in their industry. The integrity of research and the data itself is no longer sacrosanct. Whatever "fits" is used and peddled. "Fits" continued or even increasing profits, plus name-recognition and invitations to conferences and grant requests for proposals. The Truth often doesn't fit.

[Cebu_4_2]

Very sad what has happened to the practice of medicine, especially here in the USA.

There are untold thousands, probably tens of thousands, of people in the US who have mild - to -serious auto-immune type symptoms. The immunologists and other medical specialties haven't a clue whether the patient has an identifiable auto-immune disease and those doctors charged with dealing with the patients' symptoms haven't a clue as to how to treat them.

I think it would be a positive use of this forum to start a few threads to offer help and sharing expeiences for dealing with these vague undiagnosable conditions. That is where the power of these truly free speech forums shows. People helping people with information and guidance that does not cost a penny.

Tired of playing the "ain't it awful game" about just complaining about the atrocities of medical care to them and their friends and families. Let's try to offer some positive insights.


Vitamin D is a steroid and very helpful with autoimmune ailments.

[Dachsie]

Yes, I heard a doctor say 4000 mgm of D3 or 5000 is ideal. I have been doing that for about 4 years and I believe it helps tremendously in regard to not catching colds or getting the flu, so in that sense my immune system is not wasting its compromised energy on dealing with every little contagious thing that comes along. And that in turn helps me preserve my immune system to deal with bigger chronic auto-immune conditions I have.

[mamboni]

Very sad what has happened to the practice of medicine, especially here in the USA.

There are untold thousands, probably tens of thousands, of people in the US who have mild - to -serious auto-immune type symptoms. The immunologists and other medical specialties haven't a clue whether the patient has an identifiable auto-immune disease and those doctors charged with dealing with the patients' symptoms haven't a clue as to how to treat them.

I think it would be a positive use of this forum to start a few threads to offer help and sharing expeiences for dealing with these vague undiagnosable conditions. That is where the power of these truly free speech forums shows. People helping people with information and guidance that does not cost a penny.

Tired of playing the "ain't it awful game" about just complaining about the atrocities of medical care to them and their friends and families. Let's try to offer some positive insights.Autoimmune disorders and inflammatory states such as fibromyalgia are due to mineral deficiencies. Your doctor does not know this and cares not because he makes a living writing endless prescriptions for pharmaceuticals that relieve symptoms, allowing the disease to progress silently and continue to destroy the body.

[mamboni]

Yes, I heard a doctor say 4000 mgm of D3 or 5000 is ideal. I have been doing that for about 4 years and I believe it helps tremendously in regard to not catching colds or getting the flu, so in that sense my immune system is not wasting its compromised energy on dealing with every little contagious thing that comes along. And that in turn helps me preserve my immune system to deal with bigger chronic auto-immune conditions I have.If you intake shilajit any autoimmune problems will be greatly ameliorated if not cured in a few days:

https://www.amazon.com/Shilajit-Extract-Powder-20-Additives/dp/B00R91EIXI/ref=pd_sim_121_9?_encoding=UTF8&refRID=BF25BNRMPPR7V50P139C&th=1

[Dachsie]

I wonder if there are any documented or even anecdotal reports of someone being "cured" of fibromyalgia by taking minerals. That would be very good information to know.

Inflammatory state is the main symptomatic state, manifesting itself in many different ways in the body, but what exactly is causing the inflammatory state in each individual is very much unexamined by medical science. I personally think minerals are important and I have taken liquid minerals and have gotten some help but I think basically about 80 percent of the immune system is in the gut. One condition I had, and which I found on my own a way to solve it mostly, is "leaky gut" or "intestinal permeability syndrome." I told one of the alopathic doctors I had to see for an emergency condition, a gastroenterologist GI doctor, I had a few years back that I have a "leaky gut" and he was unfamiliar with the term and told me to take Centrum. lol

The other main chronic autoimmune condition I have had since 2000 for which I have had every test in the book all show negative, nothing abnormal, test results. What a joke! Even the immunologist said he and other specialists do not know what is causing such high inflammation in so many people and can bascially do nothing to help most patients get their inflammation under control, the condition that causes flare-ups in the patient's particular health problems, other than in some patients prescribing dangerous immunosuppressive drugs.

Actually for me "all things work together for good" and I have had to try to take control of my diet and supplements by my own study and I have gotten a lot better in many ways but still have high inflammation and symptoms.

[mamboni]

I wonder if there are any documented or even anecdotal reports of someone being "cured" of fibromyalgia by taking minerals. That would be very good information to know.

Inflammatory state is the main symptomatic state, manifesting itself in many different ways in the body, but what exactly is causing the inflammatory state in each individual is very much unexamined by medical science. I personally think minerals are important and I have taken liquid minerals and have gotten some help but I think basically about 80 percent of the immune system is in the gut. One condition I had, and which I found on my own a way to solve it mostly, is "leaky gut" or "intestinal permeability syndrome." I told one of the alopathic doctors I had to see for an emergency condition, a gastroenterologist GI doctor, I had a few years back that I have a "leaky gut" and he was unfamiliar with the term and told me to take Centrum. lol

The other main chronic autoimmune condition I have had since 2000 for which I have had every test in the book all show negative, nothing abnormal, test results. What a joke! Even the immunologist said he and other specialists do not know what is causing such high inflammation in so many people and can bascially do nothing to help most patients get their inflammation under control, the condition that causes flare-ups in the patient's particular health problems, other than in some patients prescribing dangerous immunosuppressive drugs.

Actually for me "all things work together for good" and I have had to try to take control of my diet and supplements by my own study and I have gotten a lot better in many ways but still have high inflammation and symptoms.

Eliminate sugar, fried foods, vegetable oils and processed food
Eliminate all gluten: no barley, wheat, rye or oats (beware of gluten in fillers and many processed foods)
Supplement with Selenomethionine 400 mcg per day, shilajit 1/2 teaspoon per day, and a good well balanced vitamin-mineral supplement like this: https://www.amazon.com/Youngevity-USYG100075-Beyond-Tangy-Tangerine/dp/B00DTU6TJY/ref=pd_ybh_a_17?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=YBYRKDPA9VFQ18FNG2B9

[Dachsie]

Thank you, I so some of those things, have never heard of a couple of them, and say a big no to Tangy. I have read a lot about gluten intolerance and I do not think I have that. Wheat does not cause me problems.

I spent many years eating canned processed foods and I think that is what caused my problems. After working all day and battling big traffic and lots of stress, I never wanted to cook good fresh veggies and healthy meals. Dieting yo yo, caffeine sugal and Kraft mac and cheese was what did me in. Don't feel like cooking right now either but I do try.

Am going to try to grow some good organic tomatoes for this summer if the seeds come up. I love good fresh tomatoes, not the kind in the grocery stores.

[mamboni]

Thank you, I so some of those things, have never heard of a couple of them, and say a big no to Tangy. I have read a lot about gluten intolerance and I do not think I have that. Wheat does not cause me problems.

I spent many years eating canned processed foods and I think that is what caused my problems. After working all day and battling big traffic and lots of stress, I never wanted to cook good fresh veggies and healthy meals. Dieting yo yo, caffeine sugal and Kraft mac and cheese was what did me in. Don't feel like cooking right now either but I do try.

Am going to try to grow some good organic tomatoes for this summer if the seeds come up. I love good fresh tomatoes, not the kind in the grocery stores.Gluten is a contact enterotoxin. We are all gluten-intolerant. Some have symptoms. I never had a problem with gluten either. But I have adopted a gluten-free diet and feel much much better.

[Dachsie]

That is interesting that you are helped by avoiding gluten even though you had no symptoms. Guess I would have to buy all ready made gluten free prepared foods and that is expensive and hard to come by, even though I live about 3 blocks from a big Whole Foods store. May try to cut down on grains and gluten but doubt I could eliminate them. I have been taking steroid eye drops for 17 years and I read somewhere that taking echinacia helps and it does seem to help a little but not much.

[crimethink]

If you intake shilajit any autoimmune problems will be greatly ameliorated if not cured in a few days:

https://www.amazon.com/Shilajit-Extract-Powder-20-Additives/dp/B00R91EIXI/ref=pd_sim_121_9?_encoding=UTF8&refRID=BF25BNRMPPR7V50P139C&th=1

Sounds like dothead quackery.

Interestingly, it's also known as "the Devil's feces." Most commonly known as "mineral pitch" or asphalt.

https://www.ayurtimes.com/shilajit-asphaltum-benefits-uses-dosage-side-effects/

[crimethink]

what exactly is causing the inflammatory state in each individual is very much unexamined by medical science.

It's not unexamined. It's undisclosed.

For, to disclose it, would result in the credible threat of vast profit loss.

Ubiquitous chemicals in our environment (and consequently, in our food).

Injection of poisons directly into the body (vaccinations).

Increasingly ubiquitous, and higher-energy, electromagnetic radiation.

Mental and physiological stresses induced by the above, then causing even more disorder in the body.

Magic mineral supplements ain't going to solve the malevolent synergies of the above. Technological measures can compensate, to a degree, but not "cure" the amassing defects.

There's a reason God said He will need to create a New Heaven and a New Earth...after we've thoroughly trashed this Earth.

[mamboni]

Sounds like dothead quackery.

Interestingly, it's also known as "the Devil's feces." Most commonly known as "mineral pitch" or asphalt.

https://www.ayurtimes.com/shilajit-asphaltum-benefits-uses-dosage-side-effects/You sir, are an ignorant fool. Why do you insist in interjecting into a subject you clearly know little to nothing about. Shilajit has been used in Chinese and Ayervedic medicines for 10,000 years. Do you have any idea what Shilajit is? I am so sick and tired of arrogant pricks who are quick to offer advice about subjects way beyond them. This is very harnful; because some will listen to you and miss an opportunity for better health or outright cure. I am a medical doctor who has two doctorates, many peer-reviewed publications, 30+ years of clinical practice, and forty years of personal study of nutritional micronutrients. Shilajit is probably the most powerful and broad-spectrum nutrient supplement available. It's numerous health benefits are well documented. Please refrain from offering expert advice where you have no expertise and stick to what you are qualified to discuss.

[mamboni]

It's not unexamined. It's undisclosed.

For, to disclose it, would result in the credible threat of vast profit loss.

Ubiquitous chemicals in our environment (and consequently, in our food).

Injection of poisons directly into the body (vaccinations).

Increasingly ubiquitous, and higher-energy, electromagnetic radiation.

Mental and physiological stresses induced by the above, then causing even more disorder in the body.

Magic mineral supplements ain't going to solve the malevolent synergies of the above. Technological measures can compensate, to a degree, but not "cure" the amassing defects.

There's a reason God said He will need to create a New Heaven and a New Earth...after we've thoroughly trashed this Earth.This is flat out false. You sir need to zip it. You are reckless and arrogant. Your irresponsible statements will result in harm to others.

[crimethink]

You sir, are an ignorant fool. Why do you insist in interjecting into a subject you clearly know little to nothing about. Shilajit has been used in Chinese and Ayervedic medicines for 10,000 years. Do you have any idea what Shilajit is? I am so sick and tired of arrogant pricks who are quick to offer advice about subjects way beyond them. This is very harnful; because some will listen to you and miss an opportunity for better health or outright cure. I am a medical doctor who has two doctorates, many peer-reviewed publications, 30+ years of clinical practice, and forty years of personal study of nutritional micronutrients. Shilajit is probably the most powerful and broad-spectrum nutrient supplement available. It's numerous health benefits are well documented. Please refrain from offering expert advice where you have no expertise and stick to what you are qualified to discuss.

Quack, quack.

Your load you just spewed above claiming "we are all gluten-intolerant" demonstrates your "medical training" means a huge load of Shilajit. Gluten grains (e.g., Einkorn/Spelt) have been eaten by Occidentals for 10,000 years, as humanity advanced, yet you follow the latest fad "science" (the chemicals in modern wheat are the problem, not the wheat or its components).

Plenty of quackery in Chinese and Ayurvedic "medicine."

The arrogant prick here is you, "appealing to authority" because of your "expert training." LOL

If someone wants to try the overpriced asphalt extract, please, be my guest! Order some Super Male Vitality™, too.

Why don't you link to some of these "peer-reviewed" articles of yours.

[crimethink]

This is flat out false. You sir need to zip it. You are reckless and arrogant. Your irresponsible statements will result in harm to others.

Oh, fuck off. Your "medical expertise" failed to prevent you from taking the needle a few years back. Why don't you tell people about that? You willfully accepted vaccination in order to keep your cushy job, and then, oddly enough, lost your mind recently.

[crimethink]

mamboni, provide ONE "peer-reviewed" article demonstrating conclusive evidence that Shilajit does what you claim it does.

An article that hasn't been withdrawn, like this one:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0308814613019742

[mamboni]

Oh, fuck off. Your "medical expertise" failed to prevent you from taking the needle a few years back. Why don't you tell people about that? You willfully accepted vaccination in order to keep your cushy job, and then, oddly enough, lost your mind recently.Arrogant prick. You will get the health or lack thereof you deserve.

And I don't engage in healthcare-related debates with amateurs - you are not worth my time.

[crimethink]

Arrogant prick. You will get the health or lack thereof you deserve.

And I don't engage in healthcare-related debates with amateurs - you are not worth my time.

You are a quack. Dispensing bullshit "advice" and trying to con people into accepting it because you have a magic piece of paper.

Your credibility died when you took the needle.

[singular_me]

Plenty of quackery in Chinese and Ayurvedic "medicine."

nope, they just have a better mastery of the *5 elements* , they are less potent when people do not change their diet nor their thoughts that bring about stress. That doesnt mean that the medicines are quackery but that our society is in suicide mode instead. Our Left brain lifestyle has cut us off from Nature

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fhealthy-ojas.com%2Fassets%2Fsystem%2Fayurveda-five-elements.jpg&f=1

[mamboni]

You are a quack. Dispensing bullshit "advice" and trying to con people into accepting it because you have a magic piece of paper.

Your credibility died when you took the needle.You are one self-righteous judgmental piece of human trash. You have singlehandedly destroyed this forum with your flagrant over-the-top pronouncements of truth and what is correct. You're a fraud and a coward. I find it difficult to even visit this forum as it now reeks of your horrid stench.

[crimethink]

You are one self-righteous judgmental piece of human trash. You have singlehandedly destroyed this forum with your flagrant over-the-top pronouncements of truth and what is correct. You're a fraud and a coward. I find it difficult to even visit this forum as it now reeks of your horrid stench.

Wow, you are one gen-u-ine kook.

You find it difficult to visit here because people dare to call you out for your lunacy (e.g., "the Earth is flat") and your "expert opinions" which have no substance. I am truly sorry I do not bow down at your feet and worship you, oh, divine "medical doctor."

[ximmy]

We're dealing with medievalism here...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02Or-Hx3yqc

[ximmy]

Arrogant prick.

The correct response to be insolent bastard


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy2S-Jh81Po

[mamboni]

Only a fool argues with a fool.

[Joshua01]

Can you feel the looooove????
The correct response to be insolent bastard


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy2S-Jh81Po

[Jewboo]

Can you feel the looooove?

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/6b/5d/c9/6b5dc9c587a582d2c5b719e09c72a942.gif



:rolleyes: after reading this thread

[crimethink]

Again:

mamboni, provide ONE "peer-reviewed" article demonstrating conclusive evidence that Shilajit does what you claim it does.

[Joshua01]

Now THAT'S farkin cute!
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/6b/5d/c9/6b5dc9c587a582d2c5b719e09c72a942.gif



:rolleyes: after reading this thread

[ximmy]

Again:

mamboni, provide ONE "peer-reviewed" article demonstrating conclusive evidence that Shilajit does what you claim it does.


http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/08/087e856174e9017f2912af99ec8d46feddf8a61636fee6f122 2385a8aed4fb8f.jpg

[crimethink]

irrelevant meme deleted

Refusal to answer that simple question demonstrates mamboni is simply all spew, no substance. I'm not asking him to debate, just provide evidence.

[singular_me]

if Russian Academy of Sciences Calls Homeopathy Pseudoscience there there is no peer-reviewed article that will do it justice, not because it is russia but conventional academia
https://richarddawkins.net/2017/02/russian-academy-of-sciences-calls-homeopathy-pseudoscience/

The FDA and Big Pharma's latest killer agenda: Destroy homeopathic medicine
https://www.sott.net/article/297680-The-FDA-and-Big-Pharmas-latest-killer-agenda-Destroy-homeopathic-medicine


MEANWHILE

Battle Over U.S. Corporations Patenting Amazon Plants
http://albionmonitor.com/9804a/amazonpatent.html

Corporate ‘Biopiracy’ In Peru Threatens Indigenous Knowledge
https://popularresistance.org/corporate-biopiracy-in-peru-threatens-indigenous-knowledge/

Bio-Piracy: When Western Firms Usurp Eastern Medicine
https://www.forbes.com/sites/hbsworkingknowledge/2014/04/21/bio-piracy-when-western-firms-usurp-eastern-medicine/#1bfb13e64ade



mercola.com on Shilajit
http://search.mercola.com/results.aspx?q=Shilajit

[crimethink]

mercola.com on Shilajit
http://search.mercola.com/results.aspx?q=Shilajit

All useless. Some of the retrieved links don't even actually mention Shilajit.

I'm a firm believer in "food as medicine." God did not design us to need magical substances from remote places most people have never been to to be healthy. Shilajit's alleged benefits appear to be related to its content of Fulvic & Humic Acids, which can be obtained, of course, from organic/Biodynamic foods grown in healthy humus. I understand the massive soil depletion across the planet, but that's why I specify "healthy humus."

Unfortunately, and I reiterate, the massive damage to the biosphere by pollution is effectively irreversible. And voluntary injection of poisons directly into the body is probably the number one vector for disease overall. Ever since SV40, it should have been understood that vaccinations are more harmful than beneficial. But the "experts" insist vaccines are "safe and effective." We've had plenty more "scandals" about vaccines since, including Thimerosal and Gardasil. It's not that I don't accept the principle of immunization; it's simply that I don't trust what "extra ingredients" (for unknown purposes) the corporations and governments put in them.

[Jewboo]

...I'm a firm believer in "food as medicine." God did not design us to need magical substances from remote places most people have never been to to be healthy....



http://mom.girlstalkinsmack.com/image/052013/22/144840203.jpg

Maybe Doctor Mamboni can help me understand him and Pauling daily taking MASSIVE amounts of Vitamin-C...thousands of milligrams every day.

Impossible to ingest anywhere near that amount naturally eating fruit.

Seems illogical...

:(??

[crimethink]

Shilajit:

http://lifespa.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/shilajit_image2.jpg


The Enterprise crew discovers the Fountain of Youth...a talking one:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9G3g8OSPBw

[Tumbleweed]

I haven't heard of shillijit before but looked to see what it is and it appears to be a mineral supplement. I supplement minerals to my cattle because I've seen a noticeable improvement in their health and well being when I've done that. It seems reasonable to assume there would be a benefit for me to supplement minerals for myself.

I use real salt and Himalayan pink because of the trace minerals in them. There's a lot of negative thinking out there on using salt but I eat all I want and I don't have problems with high blood pressure. I've also taken as high as 40,000 mg. of vitamin C a day and I'm presently taking about 20,000 mg. per day.

I've never really cared to eat much fruit or vegetables so I suspect that got me in trouble with some heart blockages. That's the reason I take high doses of vitamin C now. If i'd eaten a little more fruit and vegetables in the past I may have avoided those blockages. I like to eat red meat, butter and eggs and that's what my diet pretty much consists of now with a few green vegetables.

I've recovered well from the heart surgery I had and it's like it never happened. I started taking high doses of vitamin c about four weeks after my surgery and continue to this day. I don't take any prescription medicine but do take my vitamin and mineral supplements. My recovery seems to have been better that anyone I've come in contact with in person or over the internet and none I've come in contact with had heard of the Pauling therapy. I tell them about it and they can decide for themselves whether to try it or not. There was a noticeable and immediate improvement in my ability to breath and the distance I could walk when I started the Pauling therapy.

God gave the Adamic race a brain, empathy and compassion and also filled the earth with good things for the benefit of others and for ourselves. It's up to us to use our brains to find those things he put on this earth for us and use them for the benefit of ourselves and others. God put vitamins and minerals here on this earth for us to find and use.

[Jewboo]

I haven't heard of shillijit before but looked to see what it is and it appears to be a mineral supplement. I supplement minerals to my cattle because I've seen a noticeable improvement in their health and well being when I've done that. It seems reasonable to assume there would be a benefit for me to supplement minerals for myself.

I use real salt and Himalayan pink because of the trace minerals in them. There's a lot of negative thinking out there on using salt but I eat all I want and I don't have problems with high blood pressure. I've also taken as high as 40,000 mg. of vitamin C a day and I'm presently taking about 20,000 mg. per day.

I've never really cared to eat much fruit or vegetables so I suspect that got me in trouble with some heart blockages. That's the reason I take high doses of vitamin C now. If i'd eaten a little more fruit and vegetables in the past I may have avoided those blockages. I like to eat red meat, butter and eggs and that's what my diet pretty much consists of now with a few green vegetables.

I've recovered well from the heart surgery I had and it's like it never happened. I started taking high doses of vitamin c about four weeks after my surgery and continue to this day. I don't take any prescription medicine but do take my vitamin and mineral supplements. My recovery seems to have been better that anyone I've come in contact with in person or over the internet and none I've come in contact with had heard of the Pauling therapy. I tell them about it and they can decide for themselves whether to try it or not. There was a noticeable and immediate improvement in my ability to breath and the distance I could walk when I started the Pauling therapy.

God gave the Adamic race a brain, empathy and compassion and also filled the earth with good things for the benefit of others and for ourselves. It's up to us to use our brains to find those things he put on this earth for us and use them for the benefit of ourselves and others. God put vitamins and minerals here on this earth for us to find and use.

Very thoughtful answer to my question above Tumbleweed!

Human and primate bodies can't manufacture Vitamin C as most other animals do....mega supplements make sense now to me.

Thanks!

:)

THIS (http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/mic/vitamins/vitamin-C) maybe explains why you breathe better:



Evidence for an effect of vitamin C on respiratory health comes from a meta-analysis (http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/mic/glossary#meta-analysis) of three RCTs (http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/mic/glossary#randomized-controlled-trial) that evaluated the effect of vitamin C on exercise-induced bronchoconstriction (126) (http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/mic/vitamins/vitamin-C#reference126). Exercise-induced bronchoconstriction is a transient narrowing of the airways that occurs after exercise and is indicated by a ≥10% decline in Forced Expiratory Volume in 1 second (FEV1). The trials encompassed 40 asthmatic (http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/mic/glossary#asthma) participants who received either vitamin C (a 0.5 g dose on two subsequent days in one trial; a single dose of 2 grams in the second trial; 1.5 g daily for 2 weeks in the third trial) or placebo (http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/mic/glossary#placebo) before exercise. Compared to placebo, vitamin C administration significantly reduced the exercise-induced decline in FEV1 by 48% (95% CI (http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/mic/glossary#confidence-interval): 0.33-0.64).

[Dachsie]

I think each has to come to their own set of supplements they take each day. I wish I had started taking a nice set of supplements in my younger years because I think I could have avoided some of the health injuries that accumulated in those years.

I try to take supplements I can see a very real improvement from taking. I keep it pared down to a the smallest number of pills each day, only the ones that I can see real help from.

I have wasted a lot of money by buying lots of health books and supplements from ads on alternative radio. I just had to tune out all those supplements ads and just use my own common sense. I tried to take a whole bunch that were supposed to help with inflammation but none of them solved my biggest inflammation problem.

I take 1000 mg of C each day and I had to work up to that but now is easy but don't want to go higher than that. (Diarrhea is the early symptom when you first start taking about 900 or 1000 mg a day.)

A supplement that I really like is Kyolic Forumla 106 "Circulation." I find the best price at Walmart for this good Kyolic brand but must mail order. Swanson Supplements sells their own version of this pill but it gives a mild lingering after taste of the garlic and is lower price.
This is a combination of garlic, Hawthorne berries, cayenne and Vitamin E . I take 6 pills each morning along with my other supplements and take them with a milky kind of smoothie.

I noticed an almost immediate drop in my blood pressure and it stays down to normal range, so that is what told me it really does something. I think this supplement is overall very good for health and would recommend everyone take it, even young people with no health issues. These pills are the equivalent of Strauss Heart Drops but much easier to take. (Wish poor people would at least find a way to get some basic supplements into their daily routine because they have the poorest dietary habits of all and the most health problems.)

Still looking for good source of omega 3s and good fatty acids. Best choice so far is Krill Oil from Norway but would like other sources. No fish oil from the Pacific ocean for me.

I think that we are under serious assault in our food, air, water, and soil. It is I think a bit crazy to think we can "get back to the earth" when the earth has become so contaminated. I also think we better not think of getting back to Eden either. That will only happen when there is a new heaven and a new earth. God knows what we need is a whole new earth. Until then, we just have to use all of our resources to do the best we can for ourselves.

[singular_me]

All useless. Some of the retrieved links don't even actually mention Shilajit.
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my point is that mercola.com does not have any link or article sending a warning about the chinese dietary supplement.

[crimethink]

my point is that mercola.com does not have any link or article sending a warning about the chinese dietary supplement.

I didn't claim it was dangerous, and it's Ayurvedic (Indian), not Chinese.

[Neuro]

fibromyalgia are due to mineral deficiencies.
In my experience, people with 'fibromyalgia' has an upper neck misalignment, which create a torsion/tension of the upper cervical spinal cord, via the dentate ligaments attachment to the atlas vertebrae, this create an irritation and inflammation of the sensory nerves traveling in the spinal cord from the body to the sensory centers of the brain, and creates a hypersensitive feeling of pain in large parts of the body. Almost everybody that I see (and I have seen hundreds in my career), report an immediate improvement after having the upper neck adjusted, however it usually takes about 10 chiropractic sessions before the neck stays corrected, and the symptoms are cured.

https://ucstudies.wordpress.com/tag/dentate-ligament/

Certainly a mineral deficiency could make any symptom worse, but I don't think it is the cause of 'fibromyalgia', which is pretty much a dustbin diagnosis for the medical profession, when they have excluded every other type of organic diagnosis. The problem is of course that the medical profession is blind to any functional biomechanic issue, that hasn't yet progressed to gross structural findings.

[singular_me]

I didn't claim it was dangerous, and it's Ayurvedic (Indian), not Chinese.

Yes, I recall now. so let people believe what they think is good for them, I am a huge supporter of Ayurveda medicine as it has 4000 years of track records. But I know, a "5 elements oriented medicine" is too new agey for you so let's bash it and ridicule. Do you know that ethical ayruvedic doctors, and it is a code of conduct of the discipline, only accept donations (in India)?

meanwhile western bigphrama corporations are trying to patent any plants they can... why???

one thing is certain, is that if something ever serious happens to me, I'll buy a plane ticket and go spend a couple of months in an ayruvedic clinic working by donations BEFORE trying anything else

[crimethink]

But I know, a "5 elements oriented medicine" is too new agey for you so let's bash it and ridicule.


"Chakra-based medicine" is horseshit superstition, yes.




Do you know that ethical ayruvedic doctors, and it is a code of conduct of the discipline, only accept donations (in India)?


That's great...considering that most of the time, the "remedies" are worthless.




meanwhile western bigphrama corporations are trying to patent any plants they can... why???


Get back to me when they patent cannabis. Number one medicinal plant on Earth.

[singular_me]

here you go, you prove my point... too new agey for you. But still you dismiss all the new age in the bible. LOL

Yep sure we all die, but I surely would prefer to die in my sleep


"Chakra-based medicine" is horseshit superstition, yes

That's great...considering that most of the time, the "remedies" are worthless

Get back to me when they patent cannabis. Number one medicinal plant on Earth.

[crimethink]

But still you dismiss all the new age in the bible.


There is no "New Age" in the Bible. The Bible is, by definition, not "New Age." "New Age" is "alternative" to Christianity. "New Age" is allegedly special revelation from other gods or an impersonal "creator."




Yep sure we all die, but I surely would prefer to die in my sleep

A coward's way to die.

[7th trump]

There is no "New Age" in the Bible. The Bible is, by definition, not "New Age." "New Age" is "alternative" to Christianity. "New Age" is allegedly special revelation from other gods or an impersonal "creator."




A coward's way to die.

Cowardly?
You'll probably get shot in the back.

[crimethink]

You'll probably get shot in the back.

Indeed, by someone like you. Someone I give the benefit of the doubt, and shouldn't.

[Neuro]

Indeed, by someone like you. Someone I give the benefit of the doubt, and shouldn't.

One thing with 7th Trumps posts, is that he usually projects his own desires and qualities onto others. He is of course the perfect shooter in the back of his perceived adversaries. He is a coward and an egotistical maniac.