Lets meet Adams first wife "the Lilith"

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I'm sure most people are aware of the "conundrums" and "absurdities" that people are faced with when considering the bible.

One of the main ones is; if Adam and Eve were the first man and woman, how could the human race grow from there? From just 1 pair of humans. Wouldn't that have to mean that their descendants had to interbreed? This highlights the overly literal comprehensions people develop about the biblical story of man or the lack of knowledge because the haven't read it or they are simply taking the snippets they've heard in stories and movies. It seems no effort is made to correct this mistaken belief the majority of people hold about Adam and Eve.

It's clear there were other peoples in existence or arising at the same time. Being called "God's peoples" doesn't preclude the existence of other peoples, just that these specific peoples were Gods peoples, the ones he chose to make and gift with a soul.... amongst other things.

The Story of Adam and Eve is widely known of. God created Man and God created Wom(b)man from one of Adam's ribs. However according to Jewish mythology, Eve was not Adams first wife.

Adam had a previous wife called Lilith and unlike Eve, Lilith was created from the Earth just like Adam. Lilith refused to be subordinate or submissive to Adam and I guess the first couple also were the first to be divorced.

Here's what the Wiki has to say about the story of Lilith. It makes for interesting reading and when framed against various other mythological tales and events in the history of the world, past and present I think it's quite enlightening.


Lilith (Hebrew (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_language): לִילִית‎‎ Lîlîṯ) is a figure in Jewish mythology (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_mythology), developed earliest in the Babylonian Talmud (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonian_Talmud) (3rd to 5th centuries). The character is generally thought to derive in part from a historically far earlier class of female demons (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demon) (lilītu) in ancient Mesopotamian religion (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Mesopotamian_religion), found in cuneiform (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuneiform_script) texts of Sumer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumer), the Akkadian Empire (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akkadian_Empire), Assyria (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyria), and Babylonia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonia).

Evidence in later Jewish materials is plentiful, but little information has survived relating to the original Sumerian, Akkadian (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akkadian_Empire), Assyrian (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyria) and Babylonian (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonia) view of these demons. While the connection is almost universally agreed upon, recent scholarship has disputed the relevance of two sources previously used to connect the Jewish lilith to an Akkadian lilītu—the Gilgamesh (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilgamesh) appendix and the Arslan Tash amulets (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arslan_Tash_amulets).[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-1) (See below for discussion of the two problematic sources.[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-2))
In Hebrew-language texts, the term lilith or lilit (translated as "night creatures", "night monster", "night hag", or "screech owl") first occurs in a list of animals in Isaiah 34:14, either in singular or plural form according to variations in the earliest manuscripts. In the Dead Sea Scrolls (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea_Scrolls) 4Q510-511 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4Q510-511), the term first occurs in a list of monsters. In Jewish magical (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_%28paranormal%29) inscriptions on bowls and amulets from the 6th century CE onwards, Lilith is identified as a female demon and the first visual depictions appear.
In Jewish folklore (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_folklore), from the satirical book Alphabet of Sirach (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphabet_of_Sirach) (ca 700–1000) onwards, Lilith appears as Adam (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam)'s first wife, who was created at the same time (Rosh Hashanah (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosh_Hashanah)) and from the same dirt as Adam – compare Genesis 1:27. (This contrasts with Eve (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eve), who was created from one of Adam's ribs: Genesis 2:22) The legend developed extensively during the Middle Ages (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_Ages), in the tradition of Aggadah (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aggadah), the Zohar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zohar), and Jewish mysticism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_mysticism).[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-3) For example, in the 13th-century writings of Isaac ben Jacob ha-Cohen (https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_ben_Jacob_ha-Cohen), Lilith left Adam after she refused to become subservient to him and then would not return to the Garden of Eden (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden_of_Eden) after she had coupled with the archangel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archangel) Samael (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samael).[4]

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-4)

The resulting Lilith legend continues to serve as source material in modern Western culture (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_culture), literature, occultism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occult), fantasy, and horror.




Alphabet of Ben Sira

Main article: Alphabet of Ben Sira (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphabet_of_Ben_Sira)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/33/Filippino_Lippi-_Adam.JPG/250px-Filippino_Lippi-_Adam.JPG (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Filippino_Lippi-_Adam.JPG)


Adam (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam) clutches a child in the presence of the child-snatcher Lilith


The pseudepigraphic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudepigraphic)[48] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-48) 8th–10th centuries Alphabet of Ben Sira (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphabet_of_Ben_Sira) is considered to be the oldest form of the story of Lilith as Adam's first wife. Whether this particular tradition is older is not known. Scholars tend to date the Alphabet between the 8th and 10th centuries CE. The work has been characterized as satirical (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire).
In the text an amulet (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amulet) is inscribed with the names of three angels (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel) (Senoy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senoy), Sansenoy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sansenoy), and Semangelof (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semangelof)) and placed around the neck of newborn (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newborn) boys (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boy) in order to protect them from the lilin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilin) until their circumcision (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcision).[49] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-49) The amulets used against Lilith that were thought to derive from this tradition are, in fact, dated as being much older.[50] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-50) The concept of Eve having a predecessor is not exclusive to the Alphabet, and is not a new concept, as it can be found in Genesis Rabbah (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_Rabbah). However, the idea that Lilith was the predecessor may be exclusive to the Alphabet.
The idea in the text that Adam (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam) had a wife prior to Eve (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eve) may have developed from an interpretation of the Book of Genesis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Genesis) and its dual creation accounts; while Genesis 2:22 describes God's creation of Eve from Adam's rib, an earlier passage, 1:27, already indicates that a woman had been made: "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them." The Alphabet text places Lilith's creation after God's words in Genesis 2:18 that "it is not good for man to be alone"; in this text God forms Lilith out of the clay from which he made Adam but she and Adam bicker. Lilith claims that since she and Adam were created in the same way they were equal and she refuses to submit to him:
After God created Adam, who was alone, He said, 'It is not good for man to be alone.' He then created a woman for Adam, from the earth, as He had created Adam himself, and called her Lilith. Adam and Lilith immediately began to fight. She said, 'I will not lie below,' and he said, 'I will not lie beneath you, but only on top. For you are fit only to be in the bottom position, while I am to be the superior one.' Lilith responded, 'We are equal to each other inasmuch as we were both created from the earth.' But they would not listen to one another. When Lilith saw this, she pronounced the Ineffable Name and flew away into the air.

Adam stood in prayer before his Creator: 'Sovereign of the universe!' he said, 'the woman you gave me has run away.' At once, the Holy One, blessed be He, sent these three angels Senoy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senoy), Sansenoy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sansenoy), and Semangelof (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semangelof), to bring her back.
Said the Holy One to Adam, 'If she agrees to come back, what is made is good. If not, she must permit one hundred of her children to die every day.' The angels left God and pursued Lilith, whom they overtook in the midst of the sea, in the mighty waters wherein the Egyptians were destined to drown. They told her God's word, but she did not wish to return. The angels said, 'We shall drown you in the sea.’

'Leave me!' she said. 'I was created only to cause sickness to infants. If the infant is male, I have dominion over him for eight days after his birth, and if female, for twenty days.’

When the angels heard Lilith's words, they insisted she go back. But she swore to them by the name of the living and eternal God: 'Whenever I see you or your names or your forms in an amulet, I will have no power over that infant.' She also agreed to have one hundred of her children die every day. Accordingly, every day one hundred demons perish, and for the same reason, we write the angels' names on the amulets of young children. When Lilith sees their names, she remembers her oath, and the child recovers.

The background and purpose of The Alphabet of Ben-Sira is unclear. It is a collection of stories about heroes of the Bible (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible) and Talmud (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmud), it may have been a collection of folk-tales (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folklore), a refutation of Christian (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity), Karaite (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karaite_Judaism), or other separatist movements; its content seems so offensive to contemporary Jews that it was even suggested that it could be an anti-Jewish satire (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire),[51] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-51) although, in any case, the text was accepted by the Jewish mystics of medieval Germany.

The Alphabet of Ben-Sira is the earliest surviving source of the story, and the conception that Lilith was Adam's first wife became only widely known with the 17th century Lexicon Talmudicum (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lexicon_Talmudicum&action=edit&redlink=1) of German scholar Johannes Buxtorf (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannes_Buxtorf).

In this folk tradition that arose in the early Middle Ages Lilith, a dominant female demon, became identified with Asmodeus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asmodeus), King of Demons, as his queen.[52] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-52) Asmodeus was already well known by this time because of the legends about him in the Talmud. Thus, the merging of Lilith and Asmodeus was inevitable.[53] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-53) The second myth of Lilith grew to include legends about another world and by some accounts this other world existed side by side with this one, Yenne Velt is Yiddish for this described "Other World". In this case Asmodeus and Lilith were believed to procreate demonic offspring endlessly and spread chaos at every turn.[54] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-Schwartz_p.8-54) Many disasters were blamed on both of them, causing wine to turn into vinegar, men to be impotent, women unable to give birth, and it was Lilith who was blamed for the loss of infant life. The presence of Lilith and her cohorts were considered very real at this time.[citation needed (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)]

Two primary characteristics are seen in these legends about Lilith: Lilith as the incarnation of lust, causing men to be led astray, and Lilith as a child-killing witch, who strangles helpless neonates. These two aspects of the Lilith legend seemed to have evolved separately; there is hardly a tale where she encompasses both roles.[54] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-Schwartz_p.8-54) But the aspect of the witch-like role that Lilith plays broadens her archetype of the destructive side of witchcraft. Such stories are commonly found among Jewish folklore.[54] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-Schwartz_p.8-54)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith

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Ways in which Lilith may appear in various religious Mythology

Lilith is not only mentioned in Jewish mythology. Like most of the ancient deities and mythology, she appears in the mythological material of other cultures

The spirit in the tree in the Gilgamesh cycle
Samuel Noah Kramer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Noah_Kramer) (1932, published 1938)[9] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-9) translated ki-sikil-lil-la-ke as Lilith in "Tablet XII" of the Epic of Gilgamesh (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_of_Gilgamesh) dated c.600 BCE. "Tablet XII" is not part of the Epic of Gilgamesh, but is a later Assyrian (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyria) Akkadian (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akkadian) translation of the latter part of the Sumerian (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_language) poem of Gilgamesh and the Netherworld (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gilgamesh_and_the_Netherworld&action=edit&redlink=1).[10] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-10) The ki-sikil-lil-la-ke is associated with a serpent and a zu bird (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zu_%28mythology%29).[11] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-11) In Gilgamesh and the Netherworld, a huluppu tree (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willow) grows in Inanna (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inanna)'s garden in Uruk (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruk), whose wood she plans to use to build a new throne. After ten years of growth, she comes to harvest it and finds a serpent living at its base, a Zu bird raising young in its crown, and that a ki-sikil-lil-la-ke made a house in its trunk. Gilgamesh is said to have smitten the snake, and then the zu bird flew away to the mountains with its young, while the ki-sikil-lil-la-ke fearfully destroys its house and runs for the forest.[12] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-12)[13] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-13) Identification of ki-sikil-lil-la-ke as Lilith is stated in Dictionary of Deities and Demons in the Bible (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dictionary_of_Deities_and_Demons_in_the_Bible) (1999).[14] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-14) According to a new source from Late Antiquity, Lilith appears in a Mandaic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandaic_language) magic story where she is considered to represent the branches of a tree with other demonic figures that form other parts of the tree, though this may also include multiple "Liliths".[15]
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-15)
Suggested translations for the Tablet XII spirit in the tree include ki-sikil as "sacred place", lil as "spirit", and lil-la-ke as "water spirit".[16] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-16) but also simply "owl", given that the lil is building a home in the trunk of the tree.[17]

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-17)A connection between the Gilgamesh ki-sikil-lil-la-ke and the Jewish Lilith was rejected by Dietrich Opitz (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietrich_Opitz) (1932)[18] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-18) and rejected on textual grounds by Sergio Ribichini (1978).[19] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-19)

Could the Owl be the same owl worshiped as Moloch in the Cremation of Care ceremony? Read on....


The bird-footed woman in the Burney Relief

Main article: Burney Relief (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burney_Relief)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/19/Burney_Relief_Babylon_-1800-1750.JPG/220px-Burney_Relief_Babylon_-1800-1750.JPG (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Burney_Relief_Babylon_-1800-1750.JPG)


Burney Relief (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burney_Relief), Babylon (1800–1750 BCE). Some scholars (e.g. Emil Kraeling (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emil_Kraeling)) identified the figure in the relief with Lilith, based on a misreading of an outdated translation of the Epic of Gilgamesh.[20] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-20) Modern research has identified the figure as one of the main goddesses of the Mesopotamian pantheons, most probably Ishtar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishtar) or Ereshkigal (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ereshkigal).[21]
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-21)
Kramer's translation of the Gilgamesh fragment was used by Henri Frankfort (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_Frankfort) (1937)[22] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-22) and Emil Kraeling (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emil_Kraeling) (1937)[23] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-23) to support identification of a woman with wings and bird-feet in the Burney Relief (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burney_Relief) as related to Lilith, but this has been rejected by later sources, including the British Museum (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Museum), which is in current possession of the piece. The terracotta plaque depicts a beautiful, naked goddess-like sylph with bird-like features who stands atop two lions and between two owls. Although once believed to be the actual image of Lilith, it is now thought to possibly represent Inanna, the Sumerian goddess of love, fertility, beauty, war, and sexual desire. The depiction of the nocturnal and predatory owls, however, have led many to believe the relief is an affirmation of Lilith’s role as a demon who flies about the underworld, delivering night terrors to those who sleep.

Although the above description claims to be discredited, I think this one is particularly interesting. In some sense the saying "He doth protest too much" might apply in this case. I'll come back to this in my third post in this thread.


The Arslan Tash amulets Main article: Arslan Tash amulets (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arslan_Tash_amulets)
The Arslan Tash amulets (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arslan_Tash_amulets) are limestone plaques discovered in 1933 at Arslan Tash (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arslan_Tash), the authenticity of which is disputed. William F. Albright (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_F._Albright), Theodor H. Gaster (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodor_H._Gaster),[24] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-24) and others, accepted the amulets as a pre-Jewish source which shows that the name Lilith already existed in the 7th century BCE but Torczyner (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naftali_Herz_Tur-Sinai) (1947) identified the amulets as a later Jewish source.[25] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-25)



Nothing much to add here. A very old story, before the times of the Jewish people?

In the Bible - only one recognised reference to Lilith.

The only occurrence is in the Book of Isaiah (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Isaiah) 34:14, describing the desolation of Edom (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edom), where the Hebrew word lilit (or lilith) appears in a list of eight unclean animals, some of which may have demonic associations. Since the word lilit (or lilith) is a hapax legomenon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hapax_legomenon) in the Hebrew Bible (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_Bible) and the other seven terms in the list are better documented, the reading of scholars and translators is often guided by a decision about the complete list of eight creatures as a whole.[26] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-26)[27] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-27) Quoting from Isaiah 34 (NAB (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_American_Bible)): (12) Her nobles shall be no more, nor shall kings be proclaimed there; all her princes are gone. (13) Her castles shall be overgrown with thorns, her fortresses with thistles and briers. She shall become an abode for jackals and a haunt for ostriches. (14) Wildcats shall meet with desert beasts, satyrs shall call to one another; There shall the Lilith repose, and find for herself a place to rest. (15) There the hoot owl shall nest and lay eggs, hatch them out and gather them in her shadow; There shall the kites assemble, none shall be missing its mate. (16) Look in the book of the LORD and read: No one of these shall be lacking, For the mouth of the LORD has ordered it, and His spirit shall gather them there. (17) It is He who casts the lot for them, and with His hands He marks off their shares of her; They shall possess her forever, and dwell there from generation to generation.


Various Bible Translations of Isaiah 34:14. All referencing the OWL.

Wycliffe's Bible (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wycliffe%27s_Bible) (1395) preserves the Latin rendering lamia:

Isa 34:15 Lamya schal ligge there, and foond rest there to hir silf. The Bishops' Bible (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bishops%27_Bible) of Matthew Parker (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Parker) (1568) from the Latin:
Isa 34:14 there shall the Lamia lye and haue her lodgyng. Douay–Rheims Bible (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douay%E2%80%93Rheims_Bible) (1582/1610) also preserves the Latin rendering lamia:
Isa 34:14 "And demons and monsters shall meet, and the hairy ones shall cry out one to another, there hath the lamia lain down, and found rest for herself." The Geneva Bible (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Bible) of William Madison Whittington (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Madison_Whittington) (1587) from the Hebrew:
Isa 34:14 and the screech owl shall rest there, and shall finde for her selfe a quiet dwelling.
Then the King James Version (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_James_Version) (1611):

Isa 34:14 "The wild beasts (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/beast) of the desert shall also meet with the wild beasts of the island (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island), and the satyr (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satyr) shall cry to his fellow; the screech owl (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screech_owl) also shall rest there, and find for herself a place of rest." The "screech owl" translation of the King James Version is, together with the "owl" (yanšup, probably a water bird) in 34:11 and the "great owl" (qippoz, properly a snake) of 34:15, an attempt to render the passage by choosing suitable animals for difficult-to-translate Hebrew words.

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The Kabbalah version is interesting. It talks of the Left side. If you are familiar with this concept you will understand what is being said here. If you understand what is being said you might grasp the meaning of the Masonic symbolism of the Left Eye, the Left Path. If you pay attention you will see the Left Eye symbolism in movies, music, corporate logos and identities, celebrity gestures. All affirmations of the left path. The path of the Luciferian side and the worship of demonic deities including the Lilith.


Kabbalistic mysticism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabbalah) attempted to establish a more exact relationship between Lilith and the Deity. With her major characteristics having been well-developed by the end of the Talmudic period, after six centuries had elapsed between the Aramaic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic_language) incantation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incantation) texts that mention Lilith and the early Spanish Kabbalistic writings in the 13th century, she reappears, and her life history becomes known in greater mythological detail.[55] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-55)

Her creation is described in many alternative versions. One mentions her creation as being before Adam's, on the fifth day, because the "living creatures" with whose swarms God filled the waters included none other than Lilith. A similar version, related to the earlier Talmudic passages, recounts how Lilith was fashioned with the same substance as Adam was, shortly before. A third alternative version states that God originally created Adam and Lilith in a manner that the female creature was contained in the male.

Lilith's soul was lodged in the depths of the Great Abyss. When God called her, she joined Adam. After Adam's body was created a thousand souls (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul_%28spirit%29) from the Left (evil) side attempted to attach themselves to him. However, God drove them off. Adam was left lying as a body without a soul. Then a cloud descended and God commanded the earth (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth) to produce a living soul. This God breathed (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breath) into Adam, who began to spring to life and his female was attached to his side. God separated the female from Adam's side. The female side was Lilith, whereupon she flew to the Cities of the Sea and attacks humankind (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humankind). Yet another version claims that Lilith emerged as a divine entity that was born spontaneously, either out of the Great Supernal Abyss or out of the power of an aspect of God (the Gevurah of Din (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gevurah)). This aspect of God, one of his ten attributes (Sefirot), at its lowest manifestation has an affinity with the realm of evil and it is out of this that Lilith merged with Samael (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samael).[56] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-56)

An alternative story links Lilith with the creation of luminaries. The "first light", which is the light of Mercy (one of the Sefirot (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sefirot)), appeared on the first day of creation when God said "Let there be light". This light became hidden and the Holiness became surrounded by a husk of evil. "A husk (klippa) was created around the brain (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_brain)" and this husk spread and brought out another husk, which was Lilith.[57] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-57)

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This story recently surfaced and I think it related here. I do not think it is a coincidence or happenstance that this "palace" was discovered. As I mentioned in this thread on the Baal Arch (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?95122-skype-build-tribute-to-baal-in-nyc), I believe that these middle east wars from Iraq to Syria are providing cover for archeological raids that are something to do with the Mythology of Isis, Osiris and Horus. Horus is considered to be the source of the All Seeing Eye atop the Pyre-mid. He is the child of Brother and Sister Isis and Osiris.

Isis is the name of the mercenary "terrorist" group which is conducting the raids in these ancient areas. Isis is the feminine and the Mythology goes that after Osiris was slain and dismembered his 13 body parts were separated and hidden in different places around the world. In order to raise Osiris from the dead, Isis undertook a mission to find and retrieve all of Osiris's body parts.

It should be noted that several names and symbols are used for Isis. They include:
Columbia (District of)
Statue of Liberty - originally created by French Freemasons as a statue of Isis/Columbia it was not given to it's intended recipient but instead renamed and gifted to America.

We have seen various tributes to Isis and Osiris. The Superbowl half time show regulary tributes Isis and Osiris. MTV awards do the same, however I think Katy Perry's Dark Horse show is a tribute to multiple deities including the 4 horsemen and to Lilith.

I think the imagery the following story is Lilith and Lilith maybe Isis or is at least in some way tied to the mythology of Isis. I believe it is too "convenient" to ignore the possibility.

Previously untouched 600BC palace discovered under shrine demolished by Isil in Mosul

Archaeologists documenting Isil’s destruction of the ruins of the Tomb of the Prophet Jonah say they have made an unexpected discovery which could help in our understanding of the world’s first empire.
The Nebi Yunus shrine - containing what Muslims and Christians believe to be the tomb of Jonah, as he was known in the Bible, or Yunus in the Koran - was blown up by Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isil) militants soon after they seized huge swathes of northern Iraq in 2014.
(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/25/horror-mosul-sinkhole-became-biggest-mass-grave-iraq/)
The shrine is situated on top of a hill in eastern Mosul called Nebi Yunus - one of two mounds that form part of the ancient Assyrian city of Nineveh.

The Iraqi army retook the area from Isil last month (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/25/mosuls-tragedy-civilians-flee-iraqi-offensive-grief-stricken/), revealing the extensive damage wrought by the jihadists.

But local archaeologists have told the Telegraph that Isil also dug tunnels deep under the demolished shrine and into a previously undiscovered and untouched 600BC palace.
Limited excavation was carried out by the Ottoman governor of Mosul in 1852, which was revisited by the Iraqi department of antiquities in the 1950s. But neither team reached as far as the palace.

It is the first evidence of Isil’s use of tunneling in ancient grounds in their hunt for artefacts to plunder.
Inside one of the tunnels, Iraqi archaeologist Layla Salih discovered a marble cuneiform inscription of King Esarhaddon thought to date back to the Assyrian empire in 672BC.

While the king’s name is not visible on the cuneiform slab, a historian who has seen photographs of it says phrases are legible which were used only to describe him, in particular his rebuilding of Babylon after his father Sennacherib had it destroyed.

The palace was built for Sennacherib, renovated and expanded by Esarhaddon (681-669 BC), and renovated again by Ashurbanipal (669-627). It was partly destroyed during the Sack of Nineveh in 612 BC.

There are only a handful of such cuneiforms recovered from the period, most of which from the second mound just north of Nebi Yunus in Kouyunjik.
In another part of the tunnel they discovered Assyrian stone sculptures of a demi-goddess, depicted sprinkling the “water of life” to protect humans in her care.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/27/previously-untouched-600bc-palace-discovered-shrine-demolished/

[Ares]

When looking at the human race from a purely genetic item, if it were just 1 man and 1 woman, the human race would of died out within 2 generations due to lack of a genetic gene pool to swap chromosomes.

I never really bought the whole garden of Eden story or took it at face value.

We are a race with amnesia, where we came from is just as much of a mystery as to where we are going.

[crimethink]

When looking at the human race from a purely genetic item, if it were just 1 man and 1 woman, the human race would of died out within 2 generations due to lack of a genetic gene pool to swap chromosomes.

That would be true assuming a similar genetic load existed back then. Creationists argue that Adam & Eve's DNA was perfect.

Cousin and sibling breeding is taboo based upon the fact bad things often result, but, the fact also remains that many siblings have successfully created offspring that are healthy, even with modern genetic load.

[Glass]

Another aspect of this Lilith may be in the Symbolism of the Monolith. MonoLith might be a anagram of moonlith. The moon features dominantly in left sided mysticism. Spells are cast under the moon. Sacrifices made at specific phases and orbit phases of the moon. The moon draws energy from earth in contrast to the Sun giving energy to the earth.

Monoliths appear in quite a lot of places, physically, in literature, and popular culture. Islam has a "tomb" in Mecca which is effectively a monolith. The Islamic faith worships the moon as opposed to the Catholic faith which worships the Sun in conjunction with Saturn and other ancient deities.

2001 a Space Odyssey
Hunger Games? - one of those types of shows, Perhaps it was Westworld or both? had monoliths surrounding the "world" where the people lived. interestingly these monoliths were known as the border of memories or the barrier of memories. I think that is interesting in light of Ares's observations about Humans being a race with amnesia.
One World TradeCenter Cube - effectively a monolith.
The Truman Show - the door he went through to leave the contained world was symbolically a monolith
Band - Kansas - the monolith album
Band - Sunn - Monoliths and Dimensions
Band - Black Candle
Band - Monolith

Just a few from a quick search. No doubt more well known bands as well if one cares to look.

If you look into the band art using monoliths you'll find it's all demonic stuff. Lots of Baphomet symbology.

[crimethink]

Lilith is a Babylonian Talmudic myth, intended to disparage God's revealed history. In addition to the myth of Lilith, the Talmud also claims Adam screwed every animal in the garden, and was unsatisfied, so Eve was brought along. * Both are the products of a twisted, satanic mind.

The Jewish Lilith myth is the foundation upon which modern "feminism" is concocted. As such, it is nothing to be celebrated.




* R. Eleazar further stated: "What is meant by the Scriptural text, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh? This teaches that Adam had intercourse with every beast and animal but found no satisfaction until he cohabited with Eve.” - Yebamoth 63a

[Glass]

Touching some more on the Left Side. The left side is very strong in forces dominating the world today. That is why I think these deites of Isis and Lilith are potentially one and the same.

There is a saying, As above So below. It forms part of Freemasonic and Kabbalistic concepts. This concept is represented in some images of the Baphomet. It appears in the Tarot in the Magician card - the Maji.

In addition to this, there is the inclusion of the Serpent. Either as Lilith herself tempting Eve to taste from the tree of knowledge or as a mate for Lilith.

Both aspects are referenced in this portion of the Lilith mythology.


Treatise on the Left Emanation
Main article: Treatise on the Left Emanation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treatise_on_the_Left_Emanation)
The mystical writing of two brothers Jacob and Isaac Hacohen, which predates the Zohar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zohar) by a few decades, states that Samael (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samael) and Lilith are in the shape of an androgynous (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgynous) being, double-faced, born out of the emanation of the Throne of Glory (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Throne_of_Glory&action=edit&redlink=1) and corresponding in the spiritual realm to Adam and Eve, who were likewise born as a hermaphrodite (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermaphrodite). The two twin androgynous couples resembled each other and both "were like the image of Above"; that is, that they are reproduced in a visible form of an androgynous deity.
19. In answer to your question concerning Lilith, I shall explain to you the essence of the matter. Concerning this point there is a received tradition from the ancient Sages who made use of the Secret Knowledge of the Lesser Palaces, which is the manipulation of demons and a ladder by which one ascends to the prophetic levels. In this tradition it is made clear that Samael and Lilith were born as one, similar to the form of Adam and Eve who were also born as one, reflecting what is above. This is the account of Lilith which was received by the Sages in the Secret Knowledge of the Palaces.[58] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-58)


Another version[clarification needed (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Please_clarify)] that was also current among Kabbalistic circles in the Middle Ages (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_Ages) establishes Lilith as the first of Samael's four wives: Lilith, Naamah (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naamah_%28demon%29), Eisheth (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eisheth), and Agrat bat Mahlat (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agrat_bat_Mahlat). Each of them are mothers of demons and have their own hosts and unclean spirits in no number.[59] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-59) The marriage of archangel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archangel) Samael (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samael) and Lilith was arranged by "Blind Dragon", who is the counterpart of "the dragon that is in the sea". Blind Dragon acts as an intermediary between Lilith and Samael:
Blind Dragon rides Lilith the Sinful – may she be extirpated quickly in our days, Amen! – And this Blind Dragon brings about the union between Samael and Lilith. And just as the Dragon that is in the sea (Isa. 27:1) has no eyes, likewise Blind Dragon that is above, in the likeness of a spiritual form, is without eyes, that is to say, without colors.... (Patai81:458) Samael is called the Slant Serpent, and Lilith is called the Tortuous Serpent.[60] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-60)


The marriage of Samael and Lilith is known as the "Angel Satan" or the "Other God", but it was not allowed to last. To prevent Lilith and Samael's demonic children Lilin from filling the world, God castrated Samael. In many 17th century Kabbalistic books, this mythologem is based on the identification of "Leviathan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviathan) the Slant Serpent and Leviathan the Torturous Serpent" and a reinterpretation of an old Talmudic myth where God castrated the male Leviathan and slew the female Leviathan in order to prevent them from mating and thereby destroying the earth.[61] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-61) After Samael became castrated and Lilith was unable to fornicate with him, she left him to couple with men who experience nocturnal emissions. A 15th or 16th century Kabbalah text states that God has "cooled" the female Leviathan, meaning that he has made Lilith infertile and she is a mere fornication.

The Treatise on the Left Emanation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treatise_on_the_Left_Emanation) says that there are two Liliths, the lesser being married to the great demon Asmodeus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asmodai).
In answer to your question concerning Lilith, I shall explain to you the essence of the matter. Concerning this point there is a received tradition from the ancient Sages who made use of the Secret Knowledge of the Lesser Palaces, which is the manipulation of demons and a ladder by which one ascends to the prophetic levels. In this tradition, it is made clear that Samael and Lilith were born as one, similar to the form of Adam and Eve who were also born as one, reflecting what is above. This is the account of Lilith which was received by the Sages in the Secret Knowledge of the Palaces. The Matron Lilith is the mate of Samael. Both of them were born at the same hour in the image of Adam and Eve, intertwined in each other. Asmodeus the great king of the demons has as a mate the Lesser (younger) Lilith, daughter of the king whose name is Qafsefoni. The name of his mate is Mehetabel daughter of Matred, and their daughter is Lilith.[62] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-62)

Another passage charges Lilith as being a tempting serpent of Eve (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eve).


And the Serpent, the Woman of Harlotry, incited and seduced Eve through the husks of Light which in itself is holiness. And the Serpent seduced Holy Eve, and enough said for him who understands. And all this ruination came about because Adam the first man coupled with Eve while she was in her menstrual impurity – this is the filth and the impure seed of the Serpent who mounted Eve before Adam mounted her. Behold, here it is before you: because of the sins of Adam the first man all the things mentioned came into being. For Evil Lilith, when she saw the greatness of his corruption, became strong in her husks, and came to Adam against his will, and became hot from him and bore him many demons and spirits and Lilin. (Patai81:455f)

[crimethink]

Touching some more on the Left Side.

"Left" = Sinister

[Glass]

"Left" = Sinister

100% correct. Evil, against God.

[Hitch]

100% correct. Evil, against God.

Things aren't so black and white. There's a bit of grey area there.

[Glass]

Things aren't so black and white. There's a bit of grey area there.

There is light or darkness. grey would be a shade of darkness.

The left path, the left hand, the left eye (of horus) is well documented and is on display in the world around us. The right path is there, however not so obvious because it is not being openly promoted like those on the left path are doing.

I've mentioned the crossroads before. It's considered an esoteric thing, an ethereal thing of no physical form but it is a real thing. Many don't realise they have arrived at it or passed through it. Some do. Those that realise it might ask the cost. Even then some of those that realise might not realise there is a cost, initially or at all during their life. The crossroads is the point where the paths are laid out before us. Many blindly take one or other path. For some it is the right path even if they take it blindly, for others it is the left path, again blindly or otherwise. And then some, are not blind at all.

[Twisted Titan]

One of the main ones is; if Adam and Eve were the first man and woman, how could the human race grow from there? From just 1 pair of humans. Wouldn't that have to mean that their descendants had to interbreed? This highlights the overly literal comprehensions people develop about the biblical story of man or the lack of knowledge because the haven't read it or they are simply taking the snippets they've heard in stories and movies. It seems no effort is made to correct this mistaken belief the majority of people hold about Adam and Eve.


This is just my personal opinion and I have nothing to back this up

i am of the belief The Adam and eve were the first pair of humans.

But who said that God didnt create a second and third???

I mean think about it.

The Caucasian, mongoloid and Negroid are three distinct classes to the point where they can be distinguished in fossil records.

People tend to confuse FIRST to be synonymous with ONLY

[Hitch]

There is light or darkness. grey would be a shade of darkness.

The left path, the left hand, the left eye (of horus) is well documented and is on display in the world around us. The right path is there, however not so obvious because it is not being openly promoted like those on the left path are doing.

I've mentioned the crossroads before. It's considered an esoteric thing, an ethereal thing of no physical form but it is a real thing. Many don't realise they have arrived at it or passed through it. Some do. Those that realise it might ask the cost. Even then some of those that realise might not realise there is a cost, initially or at all during their life. The crossroads is the point where the paths are laid out before us. Many blindly take one or other path. For some it is the right path even if they take it blindly, for others it is the left path, again blindly or otherwise. And then some, are not blind at all.

It's not one path or the other, that's what I meant by "grey" area. I didn't mean shades of color, but more of what you describe as the left path or the right path.

Follow your own path. Believe in God and follow his teachings, but maybe take it a bit further? Live what he says and create a path of your own.

[Glass]

Lilith is considered a counter part to Inanna, Ishtar (Easter?), Asherah, Anath and Isis.

In modern occultism

The depiction of Lilith in Romanticism continues to be popular among Wiccans (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicca) and in other modern Occultism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occult).[73] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-feminism-73) A few magical (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magick_%28Aleister_Crowley%29) orders dedicated to the undercurrent of Lilith, featuring initiations specifically related to the arcana of the "first mother", exist. Two organizations that use initiations and magic associated with Lilith are the Ordo Antichristianus Illuminati (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ordo_Antichristianus_Illuminati&action=edit&redlink=1) and the Order of Phosphorus (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Order_of_Phosphorus&action=edit&redlink=1).
Lilith appears as a succubus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succubus) in Aleister Crowley (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleister_Crowley)'s De Arte Magica. Lilith was also one of the middle names of Crowley’s first child, Nuit Ma Ahathoor Hecate Sappho Jezebel Lilith Crowley (b. 1904, d.1906), and Lilith is sometimes identified with Babalon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babalon) in Thelemic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thelema) writings. Many early occult writers that contributed to modern day Wicca (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicca) expressed special reverence for Lilith. Charles Leland (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Leland) associated Aradia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aradia_%28goddess%29) with Lilith: Aradia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aradia_%28goddess%29), says Leland, is Herodias (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herodias), who was regarded in stregheria (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stregheria) folklore as being associated with Diana (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_%28mythology%29) as chief of the witches. Leland further notes that Herodias is a name that comes from West Asia, where it denoted an early form of Lilith.[77] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-77)[78] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-78)

Gerald Gardner (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Gardner_%28Wiccan%29) asserted that there was continuous historical worship of Lilith to present day, and that her name is sometimes given to the goddess (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goddess) being personified in the coven, by the priestess. This idea was further attested by Doreen Valiente (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doreen_Valiente), who cited her as a presiding goddess of the Craft: “the personification of erotic dreams, the suppressed desire for delights”.[79] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-79) In some contemporary concepts, Lilith is viewed as the embodiment of the Goddess (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goddess_movement), a designation that is thought to be shared with what these faiths believe to be her counterparts: Inanna (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inanna), Ishtar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishtar), Asherah (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asherah), Anath (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anath) and Isis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isis).[80] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-80) According to one view, Lilith was originally a Sumerian, Babylonian, or Hebrew mother goddess of childbirth, children, women, and sexuality[81] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-81)[82] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-82) who later became demonized due to the rise of patriarchy.[83] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-83) Other modern views hold that Lilith is a dark moon goddess on par with the Hindu Kali (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali).[84] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-84)


And possibly a vampire in Greco Roman mythology. Did the Qheen mum express pride at being able to trace heritage back to the Romans. Isn't Prince C a descendant of Vlad the Impaler?

According to Augustine Calmet (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustine_Calmet), Lilith has connections with early views on vampire and sorcery:
Some learned men have thought they discovered some vestiges of vampirism in the remotest antiquity; but all that they say of it does not come near what is related of the vampires. The lamiæ, the strigæ, the sorcerers whom they accused of sucking the blood of living persons, and of thus causing their death, the magicians who were said to cause the death of new-born children by charms and malignant spells, are nothing less than what we understand by the name of vampires; even were it to be owned that these lamiæ and strigæ have really existed, which we do not believe can ever be well proved.

I own that these terms [lamiæ & strigæ] are found in the versions of Holy Scripture. For instance, Isaiah, describing the condition to which Babylon was to be reduced after her ruin, says that she shall become the abode of satyrs, lamiæ, and strigæ (in Hebrew, lilith). This last term, according to the Hebrews, signifies the same thing, as the Greeks express by strix and lamiæ, which are sorceresses or magicians, who seek to put to death new-born children. Whence it comes that the Jews are accustomed to write in the four corners of the chamber of a woman just delivered, "Adam, Eve, be gone from hence lilith."...

The ancient Greeks knew these dangerous sorceresses by the name of lamiæ, and they believed that they devoured children, or sucked away all their blood till they died.[68] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith#cite_note-68)

[singular_me]

Excellent job, Glass... will go back to it later though

to end this evil, we must DEoccult the knowledge found in ALL religions... because it is just always the SAME EVIL wearing different cloths


There is light or darkness. grey would be a shade of darkness.... yes and there is no compromise, the grey color exists as a danger sign only, and to keep us in check. Moral relativism accepts the grey shade as a norm... well and now we are plunging into the abyss as a result.

[Ares]

That would be true assuming a similar genetic load existed back then. Creationists argue that Adam & Eve's DNA was perfect.

Cousin and sibling breeding is taboo based upon the fact bad things often result, but, the fact also remains that many siblings have successfully created offspring that are healthy, even with modern genetic load.

True, but that only goes so far. You start having mutations when the genetics are too close together. If I can remember where I read it, but it was a geneticist who said that the first generation might or might not have any genetic anomalies, but continued interbreeding would result in sterile offspring or offspring who could not be born and would be miscarried.

The Adam and Eve story, or creationist still haven't explained the different races. Lets say Adam and Eve were white, white parents produce white children, black parents produce black children how does another race come into existence? Not to mention there are a number of different races spread out across the globe.

[singular_me]

(magical) mutations are what doom any pro-darwinian arguments.

human races are the result of genetic manipulations (intervention either by previous civilizations or outer space... they do this today right in front of our very eyes!! They are altering the existing human species)

also look for The Scientific Case For Intelligent Design - William Dembski, PhD (havent watched that one yet but seems compelling)


The Edge of Evolution: the Limits of Darwinism - Michael J. Behe, PhD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Sspt5Bdmug

[Norweger]

The first children of Adam (pbuh) and Eve were born in pairs. One girl and one boy. The girl from the first pair married the boy from the second pair and the boy from the first pair married the girl from the second pair etc.

Lilith is jewish mythology.

[Tumbleweed]

The Adam and Eve story, or creationist still haven't explained the different races. Lets say Adam and Eve were white, white parents produce white children, black parents produce black children how does another race come into existence? Not to mention there are a number of different races spread out across the globe.

In post 7 at this link http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?88872-Jews-the-children-of-Satan Bertrand Comparet explains that there were pre Adamic races. The Adamic race was set apart from the others and they were not to mix with them. It was a long explanation of many things so I'll only post the first of three parts here in this thread. It makes sense of the world we live in and what has been happening for thousands of years between the Jews the children of Satan and the descendants of Adam the children of God.




https://israelect.com/ChurchOfTrueIs...cainsatan.html (https://israelect.com/ChurchOfTrueIsrael/comparet/compcainsatan.html)


THE CAIN / SATANIC SEED LINE


It has been brought to my attention many times, that there are preachers and teachers in the world who don't recognize there are literal children of Satan surviving in the world today. Since this is one of the central themes of the Bible, the fight for supremacy between the children of Yahweh and the children of Lucifer, I wonder what Bible these preachers and teachers are reading and studying.


In these studies we will be using the proper name of our God, which is Yahweh and Yahshua for Christ. For documentation read, "Who Is Your God?”


The battle lines are drawn by Yahweh in Genesis 3:15, where He states he is going to put enmity between the seed of the woman and the seed of the serpent.


Let's start at the beginning; of course Satan wasn't a serpent. The entity that deceived and seduced Eve wasn't a scaly thing wriggling along on the ground. Serpent was translated from the word nachash, which means enchanter or magician. A fallen angel, still retaining a lot of his angelic powers, no doubt could be very much of an enchanter or magician.


Lucifer's children, and I do mean children not just followers, through the centuries used a serpent as a symbol or emblem of their ancestor, until they attached a secondary meaning of serpent to the word nachash. In Genesis 3:1-3Satan said to Eve, "Is it really true that Yahweh said, You can't eat of any tree in the garden?" As it reads in the Hebrew, Eve replied to Satan, "And the woman said unto the enchanter, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden". Now I am going to switch to the King James translation and I will correct it as I go.


"Of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God has said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die." Let's see what it actually said in the Hebrew. Fruit is the Hebrew word pirchach, meaning progeny, brood, children or descendants. Do you talk about the children of a walnut tree or an apple tree? Of course you don't!


Of the pirchach, of the descendants of the tree, which is in the midst of the garden, Yahweh has said, "Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it". That word touch is the Hebrew word naga, which is a more polite expression meaning, to have sexual intercourse with. Do you need to be warned not to have sexual intercourse with an apple? Of course not, it isn't that kind of a tree.


Yahweh had millions of the pre Adamic, Asiatic and African people around. If He just wanted somebody wide between the shoulders and narrow between the eyes to spade up the garden, He had them. He didn't have to create a special being for that purpose.


Satan had been the governor of this planet until he forfeited the right to this position by rebellion. Yahweh sent Adam here and it is recorded in Luke chapter 3 that Adam was the son of Yahweh. It doesn't record that about any of these pre Adamic people mentioned in Genesis chapter 1. Adam was the son of Yahweh and Yahweh sent Adam here to take over by force, kick Satan out and govern this planet. The trees in the Garden of Eden were the family trees of nations and races.


Adam and Eve weren't supposed to intermingle with these people. If Negroes and Asiatics were all that Yahweh wanted, He already had them. What He created was a different and separate being who was to be a different sort of person, whom the Negroes and Asiatics could never produce.


The Hebrew word Awdawm, which we translate Adam, means of a rosy, fair complexion. Adam was the first person of a specifically created new race. Adam and Eve were told not to mongrelize their race with these pre Adamic people that were in the world.


When you come to Genesis 3:13, Yahweh has called Adam, Eve and Satan before Him to give an accounting of their misdeeds. According to the King James Bible Eve said, "The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat thereof". Here again is the Hebrew word nachash, meaning enchanter. Then there is the use of the word beguiled; the Hebrew word there is nawshaw, which means seduced.


Beguiled means no more than deceived. Somebody who sells you some mining stock in a mine that doesn't have any good ore in it, beguiles you. The word nawshawmeans seduced, not in any way or sense can it mean beguiled. "And Yahweh God said unto the woman, what is this thou hast done? And the woman said, the enchanter seduced me." This is what it says in the Hebrew and Cain was the product of this seduction.


In reply in Genesis 3:15 Yahweh says to Satan, "I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed". The same word zehra was used for both the seed of Satan and the seed of Eve. Zehra literally means seed; there is no other meaning. It also could be used as grains of wheat but it is used throughout the Bible as meaning the descendants of a person. Satan was to have just as literal children in this world as Eve was to have. The same word zehra is used for Satan's seed and Eve's seed.


The reply of the churchianity preachers is usually to quote Genesis 4:1. "And Adam knew his wife, and she conceived and bare Cain." Notice that what is not said is more significant that what is said, the Bible nowhere says Adam begat Cain. As you have read in the Old Testament, the monotonous regularity with which it always says, and so and so begat whosis and whosis begat what's his name and what's his name begat somebody else, and so on. It was important to know your ancestry in those days, because you didn't get your citizenship for two box tops and a dime. You got citizenship because your ancestors, for over twenty generations, were Israelites and no other way.


So Adam knew his wife and she conceived. I can tell you something and I can prove every bit of it by witnesses. I went to a movie one night and the next morning the sun rose in the east. I didn't say the one caused the other. I said two things happened, one happened first and the other happened second. I never said they were cause and effect. The Bible never says there was cause and effect here. If you want further proof of this, go right on to Genesis chapter 5 where you will find the list of Adam's descendants. Cain's name is nowhere to be found. Neither Cain nor Abel is mentioned among the descendants of Adam.


If you say Abel might have been omitted because he was probably killed before he left any descendants of his own, we don't really know. However, this isn't true of Cain because the Bible traces Cain's descendants for six generations, naming them right down the line. Never once does it record that Cain was a descendant of Adam, never in any way, shape, forms or manner. The first time it records that Adam begat a child is Genesis 5:3. "And Adam lived 130 years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth." This child Adam begat was not named Cain it was named Seth.


The satanic bloodline crept in through Cain, possibly earlier, among the pre Adamic people. There were pre Adamic people who were not necessarily satanic. There were some pre Adamic people into whom the satanic bloodline came, and there were even some of the descendants of Adam who probably mongrelized. In fact, it is evident they did mix their bloodline for the fact that those living around Noah were wiped out by the flood. The Bible tells us that Noah was perfect in his ancestry, with no mongrelization. He and his family were the ones in the area that were still pure in their bloodlines.


This is why the flood wiped out the mongrelized Adamites around Noah. As I documented in "Noah's Flood Was Not Worldwide", this flood did not cover the whole earth as is falsely taught in the churches of today.


The pure descendants of Adam multiplied and then you come to the fact of the satanic bloodline getting in there. Remember, Yahweh had announced His purpose; He was going to take back the world from Satan's domination. Yahweh was going to rule it according to His purposes. He was going to rule it through His children, through the pure descendants of Adam. What would be the obvious move on Satan's part to thwart this plan? The obvious thing to do would be to mongrelize the descendants of Adam, then he could sneer in Yahweh's face and say, "These are my children but where are yours? All these have my blood in them." This is exactly what Satan set out to do.


Genesis 6:2 records, "The sons of God saw the daughters of men (Adam) that they were fair; and they took them wives of all they chose". You don't get the full significance of it in this translation, "the sons of God" (beni-ha-elohim, also means sons of magistrates or mighty men of the earth and angels).


A double race mixing took place here; both the rulers of the pre Adamic races and the fallen angels took wives of the fair Adamic women. It is written with obvious disapproval. The male descendants of Adam were not allowed, by Yahweh's law, to marry anybody but the daughters descended from Adam. If they were marrying within their own racial line in this instance, it couldn't have been spoken of with disapproval. So the beni-ha-elohim are evidently those of the pre Adamic darker races and the fallen angels who followed Satan into rebellion. Greater details of this event are found in the book of Enoch.


Go on to Genesis 6:4 where it is speaking of the same subject, again it is botched up in the King James Bible. "There were giants in the earth in those days, and also after that when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men (enowsh) of renown."


This is what it says in the Hebrew. "There were nephilim (the fallen ones) in the earth in those days." They were fallen angels. That is what the bible calls them in so many places. Jude 1:6 records, "Angels who had not kept their first estate," who had fallen from heaven and from their former powers. "When the sons of God", and again it’s the beni-ha-elohim, "came in unto the daughters of Adam...” so it's the same thing.


Here we have the spreading of the satanic bloodline. Genesis chapter 6 goes on to trace many of these descendants of the fallen angels. You find that all through Palestine, on both sides of the Jordan river, clear down through Mount Seir, the rugged mountain range southeast of the Dead Sea where Esau and his family lived, all through this area there are these various people with the satanic blood in them.


There are two different places, one in Isaiah the other in Ezekiel, where it speaks of what it calls a king or a prince. In the one case it speaks of Babylon and the other case of Tyre. Nevertheless it speaks of him in language, which could not possibly apply, to anybody except Satan. Therefore this indicates that at some time or other, Satan had incarnated in the form of these various kings, one king of Babylon and one king of Tyre.


Don't think this is so impossible because many times the Old Testament tells of these angels appearing in very solid form. They came and talked with Abraham on several occasions, one of them wrestled with Jacob almost all night.


Another of these angels came when the people of Israel were about to cross the Jordan River and take over Palestine. Joshua, making a scouting trip around his camp, saw this armed man standing there in armor and with a sword and Joshua asked, "Are you with us or for the enemy?" And the man said, "I am the captain of the hosts of Yahweh".


Let's take Isaiah 14:12-21 and note that these verses could not possibly apply to anyone except to Satan himself. We will quote from the King James Bible. "How art thou fallen from the heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations: for thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God. I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north." Lucifer then said, "I'm going to be the ruler over Israel (Yahweh's people). I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the Most High".


Yahweh our God then told Lucifer the devil, "Yet thou shall be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee and consider thee saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms? That made the world a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof, that opened not the house of his prisoners? All the kings of the nations, even all of them lie in glory, every one in his own house; but thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcass trodden under foot. Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people; the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned."


You could not say this about any kings of Babylon. The only one, who may possibly have failed to get burial and an elaborate tomb, might have been Belshazzar. Belshazzar was nothing but an incompetent drunkard and nobody ever could say of him that he was the one who shook kingdoms and so on. He didn't even rule Babylon, because he was drunk all the time.


These passages are speaking of none other than Lucifer. Note how it goes on in Isaiah 14:21. "Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities." The word translated as children is from the Hebrew word Beni meaning sons. Satan obviously was to have children who could be slaughtered, to keep them from multiplying to the point where they would take over and rule the world. Old Testament? Of course it is, now let's see what the New Testament has to say about it.


Yahshua plainly says, in a number of places, that the devil has children, not merely followers. Remember the parable of the tares and the wheat. Yahshua spoke of the farmer who sowed good seed in his field and his enemy came along during the nighttime and sowed these poisonous weeds, the tares among the wheat. When the farmer's servants saw the tares growing among the wheat they asked him if they should go and pull them up now.


The farmer said, "No, you might pull up some of the wheat with them. Let them grow together until the time of the harvest, and then the reapers will first gather the tares into bundles to be burned, and then put the wheat in my barn".


Then Yahshua explains this parable to His disciples. In Matthew 13:38-39 Yahshua says, "The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom (the Greek word used here in the plural is huios meaning sons, the good seed are the sons of the kingdom); but the tares are the children (huios) of the wicked one. Satan has just as true children in the world as does Yahweh.


Speaking to the Pharisees, who as you know were Jews, Yahshua said in Matthew 12:34 (the King James Bible botches this up to an extent that seems to me often to be willful), "O generation of vipers, how can ye being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh".
The word is not generation at all. A generation is a number of people of not too different an age, living at the same time. You, for example, constitute one generation. Yahshua wasn't talking just about the people living then. They weren't any more wicked than the generation that lived before them or the generation that lived after them. What Yahshua said was, as we will paraphrase it (it's the Greek word genema which means children or offspring): "O children of vipers... sure all these centuries you Jews have used the serpent as the emblem or symbol for your ancestor. All right, taking you at your word, you children of serpents," right down the line they were vipers. Yahshua knew who they were.

[7th trump]

One of the main ones is; if Adam and Eve were the first man and woman, how could the human race grow from there? From just 1 pair of humans. Wouldn't that have to mean that their descendants had to interbreed? This highlights the overly literal comprehensions people develop about the biblical story of man or the lack of knowledge because the haven't read it or they are simply taking the snippets they've heard in stories and movies. It seems no effort is made to correct this mistaken belief the majority of people hold about Adam and Eve.


This is just my personal opinion and I have nothing to back this up

i am of the belief The Adam and eve were the first pair of humans.

But who said that God didnt create a second and third???

I mean think about it.

The Caucasian, mongoloid and Negroid are three distinct classes to the point where they can be distinguished in fossil records.

People tend to confuse FIRST to be synonymous with ONLY

All the races except the Caucasian race were created on the 6th day. God rested on the 7th. He then formed the Caucasian race on the 8th.

The 6th day creation in His image.


And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
(man here is plural..as in races made in His image. And remember they are created, not formed)
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
("them" is again plural as woman and man of all races)
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
Ok heres where you stop. You no longer read of "man" who was created. What you will read from here on out is Adam and Eve who were formed from the earth which God breathed life into, not created, but formed. You will further read about their genealogy and onto the rest of the Bible.
(reality check for you racist chumps on this forum...God beheld his creation "man" was very good.)

After God rested for one day (1000 years) he formed the 8th day creation because there was not a man to till the ground...the caucasians.
A side note: I bring up 1000 years because bones dug up in Africa have been found to predate caucasian bones by roughly 1000 years.
So science is proving the Word of God to be true which is correlating with historical finds.

Now onto the 8th day creation.
So after God rested for one day He found there wasn"t a man to till the ground.


1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

So He blesses the 7th day and sactify's it.
Now starting with verse 6 He forms Adam out of the dust of the earth because theres no man to till the earth and guess where God puts Adam?
In the garden!!




5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.

7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

8 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.

God didnt put the man he had "created" on the 6th day a few verses before in the garden....NO!.
He put the man he had "formed" the day after His day of rest (the 7th day) in the garden that God planted. The 8th day creation...the caucasians..the farmers.

Do you see the difference Twisty?

[crimethink]

True, but that only goes so far. You start having mutations when the genetics are too close together. If I can remember where I read it, but it was a geneticist who said that the first generation might or might not have any genetic anomalies, but continued interbreeding would result in sterile offspring or offspring who could not be born and would be miscarried.


Again, that is based on genetics that already have major flaws within.




The Adam and Eve story, or creationist still haven't explained the different races. Lets say Adam and Eve were white, white parents produce white children, black parents produce black children how does another race come into existence? Not to mention there are a number of different races spread out across the globe.

https://archive.org/details/thenegrobeastori00carrrich

Adam was definitely White, since he showed blood in the face - the very meaning of his name.

Blacks were created with the animals - "beasts of the field." Highly "offensive" to most modern minds, but nonetheless true.

The origin of the East Asians is uncertain. Their high intelligence ("image of God") and affinity for real Christianity supports the concept they are mutations from the original Adamic design.

Modern South Asians are White/Black hybrids and many early Americans ("Indians") appear to be bi- or tri-racial composites (White, Asian, and Black).

Take note of the R1 haplogroup in Northeastern North America:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/ff/Haplogroup_R_(Y-DNA).PNG/800px-Haplogroup_R_(Y-DNA).PNG

[crimethink]

All the races except the Caucasian race were created on the 6th day. God rested on the 7th. He then created the Caucasian race on the 8th....What you will read from here on out is Adam and Eve who were formed from the earth which God breathed life into, not created, but formed.

I'd call you a retard, but that would be a grave insult to retards.

[7th trump]

I'd call you a retard, but that would be a grave insult to retards.
You know exactly what I meant asshole.
Thanks for pointing out a typo.

Still stealing from the tax payers to offset your personal income taxes?
I know black people better than you.

[7th trump]

Again, that is based on genetics that already have major flaws within.




https://archive.org/details/thenegrobeastori00carrrich

Adam was definitely White, since he showed blood in the face - the very meaning of his name.

Blacks were created with the animals - "beasts of the field." Highly "offensive" to most modern minds, but nonetheless true.

The origin of the East Asians is uncertain. Their high intelligence ("image of God") and affinity for real Christianity supports the concept they are mutations from the original Adamic design.

Modern South Asians are White/Black hybrids and many early Americans ("Indians") appear to be bi- or tri-racial composites (White, Asian, and Black).

Take note of the R1 haplogroup in Northeastern North America:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/ff/Haplogroup_R_(Y-DNA).PNG/800px-Haplogroup_R_(Y-DNA).PNG

You really are a racist hateful bastard arent you.
Your ridicules theory about mixed races forming a complete different race is nonsensical.
If that was the case then you'd see a white baby or a black baby come from an asian as they continue to breed.
You dont see that happening with Asians or any other race.

Your logic isnt logic at all...its...well....I dont know what it is, but its not right!

[crimethink]

You know exactly what I meant asshole.
Thanks for pointing out a typo.


That was no typo. You contradicted yourself.




Still stealing from the tax payers to offset your personal income taxes?

Is that you, Hillary Clinton?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBZR1-onmAo

[crimethink]

You really are a racist hateful bastard arent you.

My, that is quite a strong argument. LOL

[midnight rambler]

There's nothing that the card-carrying Communist dung beetle likes more than rolling balls of shit around, and this thread is a perfect example.

[7th trump]

There's nothing that the card-carrying Communist dung beetle likes more than rolling balls of shit around, and this thread is a perfect example.

You're a bigger example of a "complete" douchebag than crimethink

[midnight rambler]

Awesome comeback, for a dung beetle. lol

You must be one of those really smart dung beetles.

[7th trump]

My, that is quite a strong argument. LOL

Hit the nail on the head if I say so myself.
As a Caucasian you use Gods blessings against His creation. That will eventually catch up to your silly racist bastard ass. Theres no stone that's not unturned...........none!
You hate His creation therefore you are no Christian and Christ will not claim you...just a bastard!
Because you are white and have blessings you "crime think" you are better than a black guy.
All it tells me is you cannot be trusted with any blessings to judge another race because you're blessed. You may be stripped of any blessings in your future. He giveth and He'll taketh away.
Ohhhh I so hope I get to witness you in front of God explaining your selfishness.....I bet you'll do the equivalent of pissing and shitting all over yourself not to mention begging to those you called "niggers" for their forgiveness.....as sure as the sun rises in the east.

Just remember this. You are judged no different than any black guy, asian or anyone of Gods images. That in the end makes you no better.

[7th trump]

Awesome comeback, for a dung beetle. lol

You must be one of those really smart dung beetles.

Notice anybody really caring what you have to say?
They know you're anti-American.
And they also know your love for the communists.

[singular_me]

your first postings are fascinating Glass and now I understand even more why the bible was drafted to spread confusion more than anything else. Manly P Hall has a lecture on the Babylonian Myth

[Glass]

The first children of Adam (pbuh) and Eve were born in pairs. One girl and one boy. The girl from the first pair married the boy from the second pair and the boy from the first pair married the girl from the second pair etc.

Lilith is jewish mythology.

For me the point of this thread is not to illustrate what I believe but what THEY believe. Because how they act and what they do is based upon what they believe. I think it helps to have a good understanding of what is being faced and from where it derives its "Foundation". That way when something occurs, you may be able to more easily identify if it is motivated by or an expression of, one of their beliefs. To know what drives the "vipers", as Tumbleweeds contributions describe them as.

Vipers is a very good description I know from experience when they are truly angry they literally hiss their words. And for me, that analysis of the family trees and mixed breeding etc makes a lot of sense in the context.

I have heard bits and pieces of this Lilith over time and when I finally took a look at this character via the Wiki I was surprised to see this concept of Adam having more than 1 wife. I had never heard of that before.

I haven't looked any deeper into the story than what I referenced from Wiki and well. we know that is questionable on some topics. It does resonate with a lot of other material so at this point I think what is there is genuinely researched and linked material. Some things I wish I had known sooner, because I'm confident I could have accessed more information on these kinds of topics but that source is gone now. It i's one of those topics that I will keep an eye out for now on the off chance I come across any other source of material on it. You never know.

[crimethink]

You're a bigger example of a "complete" douchebag than crimethink

Aw, you hurt my feelings. :D

[7th trump]

Aw, you hurt my feelings. :D

What feelings?
You steal from the public to offset your personal income taxes.

Do you work for wall street?

[crimethink]

As a Caucasian you use Gods blessings against His creation.


I'm an Adamite. Maybe you're a Cock Asian, but I'm not.

God made clear in His Book that the family of Adam - including the Christ - is His premiere concern.

Beasts of the field are not part of the family of Adam.




You hate His creation


More ASSumption on your part.

I don't hate God's creations. I merely respect them for what they are. You, however, want to elevate a lower form of creation to God's image, in accordance with the Master of Lies' plan for humanity.




Ohhhh I so hope I get to witness you in front of God explaining your selfishness


You have said you want to "help" God throw souls into the Lake of Fire, whereas I will stand there crying about the sadness of their choice. Yahweh Himself has stated He has no desire for someone to be destroyed. You are a demon.




Just remember this.

Just remember what you have proclaimed in this life, as the angel tosses you into the Lake. You are rewarded with what you wish for others.

[crimethink]

You steal from the public to offset your personal income taxes.

Thou shalt not bear false witness?

I don't owe any personal income taxes.

Name exactly what I am "stealing from the public."

[7th trump]

Thou shalt not bear false witness?

I don't owe any personal income taxes.

Name exactly what I am "stealing from the public."

Ohh!
So now the story changes!

You went from "your not a net tax payer" to "I dont owe any taxes".

LMAO....it just gets better and better with you.
You change color like a chameleon.

Hey complete douche bag rambleass!
This is your buddy...he changes color like chameleon. Sure you can trust this shyster?


Hahaha....sure you probably dont owe any taxes after you paid them. Who does after they pay them?

[singular_me]

Vipers is a very good description I know from experience when they are truly angry they literally hiss their words. And for me, that analysis of the family trees and mixed breeding etc makes a lot of sense in the context.

I have heard bits and pieces of this Lilith over time and when I finally took a look at this character via the Wiki I was surprised to see this concept of Adam having more than 1 wife. I had never heard of that before.
.

all religions have been explained with parables, metaphors and myths since ever and the problem with that is that they are all left at people interpretations, people will rather repeat those that make more sense to them than others. That is basically why people who have the same beliefs do not agree most of the time and I think it is the role of religions as a whole: divisive.

[Neuro]

Notice anybody really caring what you have to say?
They know you're anti-American.
And they also know your love for the communists.

Why does every damn thread have to be about you, hurling accusations that is true about you?

[Ares]

Why does every damn thread have to be about you, hurling accusations that is true about you?

Because outside of IRS jargon, he doesn't know how to communicate otherwise.

[Glass]

your first postings are fascinating Glass and now I understand even more why the bible was drafted to spread confusion more than anything else. Manly P Hall has a lecture on the Babylonian Myth

Manly P Hall is definitely on my list of more material I hope to come across. I've read what I can find on the net. Something physical would be good to find. There was another writer on the same kinds of material, Manly referred to him. Can't recall the name. Was from around the 1500's. Another one I'd like to find more writings by.

It's worth reading what they have to say. I would pay specific attention to their warnings if anyone does seek out their writings. Very important in light of things like chaos magic, conjuring and the like. We should probably do some more on that topic soon. While events are fresh in peoples minds so they can relate better.

[midnight rambler]

Because outside of IRS jargon, he doesn't know how to communicate otherwise.

Yeah, the IRC is the dung beetle's bible.

[7th trump]

Yeah, the IRC is the dung beetle's bible.

You have a right to your opinion no matter how stupid and intentional it is.
Keep paying your Talmud income taxes ........fool!

[crimethink]

You have a right to your opinion no matter how stupid and intentional it is.
Keep paying your Talmud income taxes ........fool!

Both rambler and I have made clear we don't pay income taxes. It's not required.

You, however support the Beast's tool, called a union, voluntarily.

[7th trump]

Both rambler and I have made clear we don't pay income taxes. It's not required.

You, however support the Beast's tool, called a union, voluntarily.

And both you and rambler will not disclose how you're keeping the IRS from knocking on your door with a lien and or levy.
I've been in the "pay-no-taxes" since 1995-ish and theres nobody out there who's successful unless you own a business or stop participating in Social Security for the working class.
You both are lying through your damn mouth.
Rambler was called out and he refused to say.
You cant explain how because you dont know how and you arent familiar with the tax code as I am.

Nice try asshole....you're lying!


And theres your stupidity showing up again....unions are beasts tools huh!!
LMAO!

Anyone who pays income taxes is the beasts tool...that includes the liars such as yourself who claim they dont pay income taxes, but dont explain how they keep the IRS off their backs.

And yes asshole, filing a 1040 is very much required if you have 3121(a) "wages" and 3401(a) "wages".
Both "employment" and "self-employment" is a taxable activity.
Both are under Subtitle-C "Employment Taxes.

[crimethink]

And both you and rambler will not disclose how you're keeping the IRS from knocking on your door with a lien and or levy.


Because we have no tax liability.




You both are lying through your damn mouth.
Rambler was called out and he refused to say.
You cant explain how because you dont know how and you arent familiar with the tax code as I am.

Nice try asshole....you're lying!


Post your W-2(s) for Tax Year 2016.

Don't tell us you didn't get one/them.




And theres your stupidity showing up again....unions are beasts tools huh!!


Yup. I've already shown that your local endorsed Hillary Clinton and only other Democrats last year. You willfully fund the Beast System.




Anyone who pays income taxes is the beasts tool


Good thing I don't pay any!




...that includes the liars such as yourself who claim they dont pay income taxes, but dont explain how they keep the IRS off their backs.


Again, post your W-2(s). SHOW us how YOU "keep the IRS off your back." Your horseshit claims about being exempt from FICA does not exempt you from FIT. And union work is almost always above table, meaning you get W-2s and/or 1099s.

The horseshit you spew about Social Security law is considered "frivolous" by the IRS and subjects you to massive penalties. I am completely "legal" with the IRS, just like Donald Trump.

[crimethink]

Something for 7th dump to ponder:

https://www.justice.gov/tax/criminal-tax-manual-1100-fraudulent-withholding-exemption-certificate

https://www.irs.gov/uac/newsroom/filing-fake-documents-to-hide-income-is-again-on-the-irs-dirty-dozen-list-of-tax-scams-for-the-2015-filing-season

http://www.businessmanagementdaily.com/20232/filing-false-w-4s-lands-employee-in-prison


So, dump, would you like to be a test case? You can be the next Irwin Schiff!

[Glass]

While the girls are bickering and trying to drive the thread under.....time for something on topic.

Here's some cross referencing topic linkage from within this Forum to do with Osiris and other relevant topics.

My Thread: NASA Mission Osiris REx, we don't know dick (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?92257-NASA-mission-Osiris-REx-we-don-t-know-dick). Recently updated with the more information on the hunt for the phallus of Osiris by ISIS. I think it links to the story in post # 4 of this thread. (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?95157-Lets-meet-Adams-first-wife-quot-the-Lilith-quot&p=890425&viewfull=1#post890425)

Barnacle Bobs Thread: Albert Pike Exposes the Secret of the Cube and Writes about Dionysus-Osiris in his Book (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?85995-Albert-Pike-Exposes-the-Secret-of-the-Cube-and-Writes-about-Dionysus-Osiris-in-his-Bo&highlight=osiris)

expat4evers Thread: Osiris, the orginal Mother God (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?81315-Osiris-the-original-mother-god&highlight=osiris)

My Thread: Archeologists find mythical Osiris Tomb

(http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?81243-Archeologists-find-mythical-Osiris-Tomb&highlight=osiris)singular_me's Thread: Lost Ancient High Technology Of Egypt Before The Pharaohs (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?78222-Lost-Ancient-High-Technology-Of-Egypt-Before-The-Pharaohs&highlight=osiris)

singular_me's Thread:Pyramids and The Orion Belt (mind blowing) (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?76792-Pyramids-and-The-Orion-Belt-%28mind-blowing%29&highlight=osiris)< epic thread

If you do a forum search on Osiris you would be surprised how many times it's been touched on here.

[Dogman]

idiots all around...Theory does not make food or real anything suddenly appear,


Tho practical use of theory does.. It is living life with a pragmatic viewpoint, win some lose some, but only if it is for the better.!

Still see a bunch here that fit the idiom of the bill, or better said internet commandos. but hay frustration is very real and the net is great way to vent using alter egos.

But still idiots, because venting = nada, but feels good overall but in turn = hot air but if acted on those feelings = dead or deader which = a one way road with no turn arounds which = dead end..

But it does feel good to vent tho nobody is really secure these days so what you say can come and what you say can some day bite you. Most here think , hell I can care less, but all my posts and posting history can not ever bite me ..It is called public face ( internet and real) so no unwanted attention is drawen.

Truth

carry on the vocal idiots here..

;D

[Glass]

Theory does not make food or real anything suddenly appear,

Tho practical use of theory does.

Interestingly someone is actually spending a lot of time and money on activities related to some of these mythologies. As I mention in the Osiris Rex thread, space agencies are consuming big. Probably billion dollar budgets on missions and projects named after these "deities" and for strange activities related to them. Either the money is not being used as stated and the story is a cover OR the money is being used as stated and the story explains it to those in the know OR some combination of the two scenarios. e.g. the money is not being used as intended but the cover story still explains what is really going on to those in the know. Who can identify and read the code.

[Dogman]

Interestingly someone is actually spending a lot of time and money to do with some of the mythologies. As I mention in the Osiris Rex thread space agencies are consuming billion dollar budgets on missions and projects named after these "deities" and for strange activities related to them. Either the money is not being used as stated and the story is a cover OR the money is being used as stated and the story explains it to those in the know OR some combination of the two scenarios. e.g. the money is not being used as intended but the cover story still explains what is really going on to those in the know. Who can see and read the code. W.T.F ?

translate please..

Lmfao !

[7th trump]

Because we have no tax liability.




Post your W-2(s) for Tax Year 2016.

Don't tell us you didn't get one/them.




Yup. I've already shown that your local endorsed Hillary Clinton and only other Democrats last year. You willfully fund the Beast System.




Good thing I don't pay any!




Again, post your W-2(s). SHOW us how YOU "keep the IRS off your back." Your horseshit claims about being exempt from FICA does not exempt you from FIT. And union work is almost always above table, meaning you get W-2s and/or 1099s.

The horseshit you spew about Social Security law is considered "frivolous" by the IRS and subjects you to massive penalties. I am completely "legal" with the IRS, just like Donald Trump.

LMAO!
This drivle dumbthink says is so so so the signs hes hasnt a clue what he's talking about.

You really dont know shit do you?
This is awesome!

I dont have any W2's. I told ya before I dont have a W4 on file with the company I work for.
You dont have any idea what generates a W2 do you?
Of course you dont know. If you did know you wouldnt have asked a question to that nature and went right for the juggler question.

The union has nothing at all to do with who I work for on the level of any W4 agreement. If I was to sign a W4 at the union hall I would be an "employee", as defined (26usc 3121(c)), of the union hall
W4's are strictly to determine your deduction to offest any tax imposition liability (at source) when 26usc 3121 "employed"...as that term is defined.
I'm not statutorily "employed" but I work for a company....just like it was prior 1935 for the average working Joe.
"Employment" is defined in the Social Security laws under 42usc


(a) Employment
The term “employment” means any service performed after 1936 and prior to 1951 which was employment for the purposes of this subchapter under the law applicable to the period in which such service was performed, and any service, of whatever nature, performed after 1950.............

Here it is again in the internal revenue; Title 26


(b) Employment
For purposes of this chapter, the term “employment” means any service, of whatever nature, performed (A) by an employee for the person employing him, irrespective of the citizenship or residence of either, (i) within the United States, or (ii) on or in connection with an American vessel or American aircraft under a contract of service which is entered into within the United States or during the performance of which and while the employee is employed on the vessel or aircraft it touches at a port in the United States, if the employee is employed on and in connection with such vessel or aircraft when outside the United States, or (B) outside the United States by a citizen or resident of the United States as an employee for an American employer (as defined in subsection (h)), or (C) if it is service, regardless of where or by whom performed, which is designated as employment or recognized as equivalent to employment under an agreement entered into under section 233 of the Social Security Act; except that such term shall not include—
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/3121

Hello dumbthink!
Did you read what I put in bold lettering?

[crimethink]

Interestingly someone is actually spending a lot of time and money on activities related to some of these mythologies. As I mention in the Osiris Rex thread, space agencies are consuming big. Probably billion dollar budgets on missions and projects named after these "deities" and for strange activities related to them. Either the money is not being used as stated and the story is a cover OR the money is being used as stated and the story explains it to those in the know OR some combination of the two scenarios. e.g. the money is not being used as intended but the cover story still explains what is really going on to those in the know. Who can identify and read the code.

Deep pocket "science" projects, whether for NASA, the Department of "Energy," CERN, and the like, all have a definitive occult purpose to them. From the Manhattan Project to CERN to the Mars ("God of War") "exploration" mission.
I've no doubt that some of them have purposes that are quite malevolent to humanity, and God, including the Trinity Test (beyond the implication of nuclear weapons), and the search for the "god particle" at CERN's LHC. Trinity exposed a huge steel bottle to energies never before seen on Earth, purpose undetermined. CERN's LHC has ripped tears in space-time, to allow something to enter our "dimension." The weather phenomena seen confirmed the theoretical physics warned about.

It is no surprise that a rabid occultist, slated to be Aleister Crowley's successor, was also a key American rocket scientist, Jack Parsons. He essentially built JPL ("Jack Parsons Lab" aka Jet Propulsion Laboratory) into what it is known for. Was it you who pointed that out recently? Had Parsons lived (he blew himself up, accidentally), who knows where our world would be today, as his influence on "space exploration" would have been as profound as that of von Braun.

[crimethink]

I dont have any W2's. I told ya before I dont have a W4 on file with the company I work for.


There are two possibilities here:

1) you are a flat-out liar;

or

2) you and your employer are in conspiracy for tax evasion.

So, which is it?

No legitimate company is going to cover for you, by failing to require both a W-4 and I-9 for an "employee." And if you are supposedly an "independent contractor," a 1099 will be issued, whether you like it or not.

There are means to do business without tax liability, but your union work is not among them.




The union has nothing at all to do with who I work for on the level of any W4 agreement. If I was to sign a W4 at the union hall I would be an "employee"


See, dumbass, you are caught. If you were not an "employee" or "independent contractor" - as defined by the IRS - union membership would not be required of you! But your admitted union membership betrays you.




I'm not statutorily "employed" but I work for a company....just like it was prior 1935 for the average working Joe.
"Employment" is defined in the Social Security laws under 42usc


Nope:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/3401


So, are you ready to test your theories? I will wager one full Gold American Eagle that you are given, at best, merely "civil penalties" by the IRS and/or in tax court, at worst, prison, by a "tax court," for tax evasion and fraud. I dare you to take my wager. Send a letter to the IRS detailing what you have claimed repeatedly here at GSUS, and then post their written response (you can redact your name & address & TIN). If their response is as I assert, demand a hearing in tax court. If the hearing goes your way, you are $1200+ richer. Even more so, I will affirm I will NEVER post at GSUS again if your claims are proven right in tax court. Finally, you would be a hero to millions of taxpayers. If it doesn't go your way, well...

Are you man enough to put up?

[singular_me]

well when science is pushed far enough, metaphysics takes over, metaphysics is all there is anyway.

And the day people get this, they will be on the path of enlightenment, there wont be any elites anymore governing them. Tesla himself said something like: the day we'll be studying paranormal phenomenons, science will make a huge leap forward and starts serving mankind... hence this knowledge is occulted/hidden for that very purpose.

Knowledge demands self-responsibility and trashing metaphysics comes down to refuting/denying this responsibility. All knowledge can be used to do either good or evil. So keep regarding metaphysics (which is all over in any religious texts) as occult and the archons/satanists will continue to rule ever happily after.

Any knowledge is that hidden will have devastating consequences... look at the religions today, this is not without any reason that they have not prevented us from facing some kind of judgement day. Most dont understand the concealed/hidden in them.



Deep pocket "science" projects, whether for NASA, the Department of "Energy," CERN, and the like, all have a definitive occult purpose to them.

[crimethink]

well when science is pushed far enough, metaphysics takes over, metaphysics is all there is anyway.


As I gained in age and experience, my interest shifted from the scientific toward the mystical. I found that any branch of science pursued to its peripheries ended in mystery. Man could neither explain the miracle of creation or the fact of his awareness, nor conceive the end of space and time. The miracles of science and technology become trivial in the face of the unknowable.

Charles A. Lindbergh




And the day people get this, they will be be on the path of enlightenment, there wont be any elites anymore governing them


I first read - and understood - the above Lindbergh quote back in 1991, when I visited his boyhood home in Little Falls, MN. A nicely-framed print with that quote has hung on my wall ever since.




Tesla himself said something like: the day we'll be studying paranormal phenomenons, science will make a huge leap forward and starts serving mankind... hence this knowledge is occulted/hidden for that very purpose.


That which is True cannot be hidden for long. Someone will always find it, though they may be ridiculed, punished and even killed.

What is "occult" more often than not involves secret plans, motives, and machinations, which do not involve Eternal Truths (real science or true spirituaity). Instead, this "occult knowledge" is knowledge of how the evil worship evil and the Evil One.

The occult I rail against stems from two sources: the Babylonian Talmud (including Freemasonry), and Aleister Crowley (who borrowed from the Judaic traditions, and gave rise to most "New Age" sewage, including Wicca, today).

(Perhaps the disagreements you and I have had over this have been solely rooted in a difference of definitions?)




Knowledge demands self-responsibility and trashing metaphysics comes down to refuting/denying this responsibility.


There are many well-meaning but woefully wrong teachers of metaphysics that are not reality-based. But worse, many of the so-called "metaphysics experts" of today are deliberate disinformation operatives, working to obfuscate and bring contempt on a general body of research that could (and does) reveal that "occult knowledge" I note above.

Modern "science" pretends that something which cannot be seen, measured, and/or duplicated did not happen and/or does not exist. This is a logical absurdity - absence of evidence is not evidence of absence - but modern "science" is a religion, and, therefore, illogic is to be expected.





All knowledge can be used to do either good or evil.


Not exactly. True knowledge of the Real Almighty Creator of the Universe and His Son cannot be used for evil. Worldly knowledge, yes, can be used for good or evil.





So keep regarding metaphysics (which is all over in any religious texts) as occult and the archons/satanists will continue to rule ever happily after.


Metaphysics =/= occult.




Any knowledge is that hidden will have devastating consequences


Not necessarily. If valuable knowledge is maliciously hidden, yes, that is likely. But some knowledge, like Jesus' Parables, is presented in a semi-cryptic form, to be understandable by those ready for that knowledge. However, Judeo-Freemasonic rituals and handshakes are not required; the Pure Goodness of God's Spirit determines when one is ready for that knowledge, without payment or man-made requirements.




look at the religions today, this is not without any reason that they have not prevented us from facing some kind of judgement day. Most dont understand the concealed/hidden in them.

Worldly-successful organized religions do the work of the Evil One, for mammon, for self-glory, for power, and for prestige & privileges from the Evil One's worldly governments.

[7th trump]

There are two possibilities here:

1) you are a flat-out liar;

or

2) you and your employer are in conspiracy for tax evasion.

So, which is it?

No legitimate company is going to cover for you, by failing to require both a W-4 and I-9 for an "employee." And if you are supposedly an "independent contractor," a 1099 will be issued, whether you like it or not.

There are means to do business without tax liability, but your union work is not among them.




See, dumbass, you are caught. If you were not an "employee" or "independent contractor" - as defined by the IRS - union membership would not be required of you! But your admitted union membership betrays you.




Nope:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/3401


So, are you ready to test your theories? I will wager one full Gold American Eagle that you are given, at best, merely "civil penalties" by the IRS and/or in tax court, at worst, prison, by a "tax court," for tax evasion and fraud. I dare you to take my wager. Send a letter to the IRS detailing what you have claimed repeatedly here at GSUS, and then post their written response (you can redact your name & address & TIN). If their response is as I assert, demand a hearing in tax court. If the hearing goes your way, you are $1200+ richer. Even more so, I will affirm I will NEVER post at GSUS again if your claims are proven right in tax court. Finally, you would be a hero to millions of taxpayers. If it doesn't go your way, well...

Are you man enough to put up?

I'm not an "employee"...I'm an hourly worker.

The IRS doesnt care and has no reason to go after me. Reason being is they dont have any reportable "income" on file. The employer doesnt file a W3 transmittal with the SSA on my behalf.
People are only convicted of tax evasion when theres an amount of reportable income on file and they file a 1040 below whats the IRS has on the file. Or they are in an activity that's taxable and dont report it like for instance drug dealers.
You probably didnt know that profits from drug dealing, even though illegal, is to be reported as taxable "income".

Thats what the W3 is for. The employer files a quarterly W3 with the SSA on each employee who earns taxable income (26usc 3121(a) "wages" and/or 3401(a) "wages").
Did you know its the SSA who updates the IRS database on how much "income" each individual earns? Its this W3 information the IRS uses to compare how accurate you filed your 1040?
Ask yourself how does the IRS actually know how much you've earned? All you know is that you filed a W4 with the employer and receive a W2 to fill out your 1040.
There's only one way money the employer pays you for working for them is deemed (3121(a) "wages" which is also 3401(a) "wages")....and that is by participating in Social Security or you are some level of government worker.
The SSA will flat out tell you that participation is voluntary....see regulation 301.6109-1(d) about obtaining ssn's.

You have an arrogant ignorant opinion of unions.
Union membership has nothing at all to do with an individuals choice to participate in SS. Thats a relationship strictly and legally only between the employer and employee where the feds are a third party interest. The W2 never leaves the employers filing cabinet...the feds never see it. In fact, the feds dont want the W2 nor the W3 transmittal.
The union is there to see that you are paid a fair and just wage, good working conditions and so on. And see to it you are represented and not squashed like nonunion workers.

I think its time to start a thread just to explain that you have NO CLUE WHEN IT COMES TO TAXES AND TAX LAW.
And the audacity you have to think I believe you when you say you dont pay taxes.

What seperates me from all the rest of those, like you, who claim they dont pay income taxes is I can defend myself when it comes to the IRS, and have....you however can not.
Heck you didnt even know SS is the culprit for paying income taxes besides being a government employee.

[Glass]

So I think we are facing a war, which was declared a long time ago.... which some of us... er us/we have either not realised or generationally forgotten is happening. At the least, simply don't understand the what how or why of it.

Adamites vs Caininites (?)

The Caininites seem to know they are fighting but the Adamites don't seem to know this. They have become so bamboozled that they have no comprehension this is actually going on. It is obviously a full spectrum war of covet and overt attack, using poisons and proxies and surgical strikes. Psychological warfare through indoctrination, absurdisation, terrorisation and predictive programming.

And I think what we are seeing now is a significant force has been built up which is more openly being displayed, because they have control over the key aspect of society. They have the law enforcement - militarised, they have the courts to try the enemy and dispose of them, they have the propaganda machine and they have the superior level of weaponry. And they have been using proxies to deplete their target. I won't say opposition because there basically is none. If people don't know they are in a fight then they won't.

The Caininites appear come in many guises and were either formed that way originally or formed separately in an organic way but still with an ultimate allegiance against a single enemy. Thats how I read things with what I've been learning recently.

[BarnkleBob]

Caucasoid Cronides, but the Mesopotamian People were Black

From the myth of The Creation of the PickAx, it is shown that the Cronide Enlil (Cronus) invented the pickax and gave it to the black people of Mesopotamia. Here is the translation by Dr. Samuel Noah Kramer:

The lord, that which is appropriate verily he caused to appear,
The lord whose decisions are unalterable,
Enlil, who brings up the seed of the land from the earth,
Took care to move away heaven from earth,
Took care to move away earth from heaven.
In order to make grow the creature which came forth,
In the "bond of heaven and earth" (Nippur) he stretched out the....

He brought the pickax into existence, the "day" came forth,
He introduced labor, decreed the fate,
Upon the pickax and basket he directs the "power."
Enlil made his pickax exalted,
His pickax of gold, whose head is of lapis lazuli,
The pickax of his house, of ....silver and gold,
His pickax whose...is of lapis lazuli,
Whose tooth is a one-horned ox ascending a large wall.

The lord called up the pickax, decrees its fate,
he set the kindu, the holy crown, upon his head,
The head of man he placed in the mould,
Before Enlil he (man) covers his land,
Upon his black-headed people he looked steadfastly.
The Anunnaki who stood about him,
He placed it (the pickax) as a gift in their hands,
They sooth Enlil with prayer,
They give the pickax to the black-headed people to hold.

(Sumerian Mythology A study of Spiritual and Literary Achievements in the third Millennium B.C. by Dr. Samuel Noah Kramer, page 52)

So it appears the Anunnaki were the white Cronides and the ancient people of Iraq were black. How did the black people get over to the Iraq? We don't know. The anthropologists have yet to show this and perhaps they will never be allowed to prove this since it does not fit in with the Out of Africa Theories.

The Myth of Cattle and Grain is very similar to the story of Cain and Abel from the bible, except it is a fight between a brother and sister that ends amicably. Here is the translation:

In those days Enki says to Enlil
"Father Enlil, Lahar and Ashnan,
They who have been created in the Dulkug
Let us cause them to descend from the Dulkug."

At the pure word of Enki an Enlil,
Lahar and Ashnan descended from the Dulkug.
For Lahar, they (Enlil and Enki) set up the sheepfold,
Plants, herbs, and ...they present to him;

For Ashnan they establish a house,
Plow and yoke they present to her.
Lahar standing in his sheepfold,
A shepherd increasing the bounty of the sheepfold is he;
Ashnan standing among the crops,
A maid kindly and bountiful is she.

Abundance o f heaven...,
Lahar and Ashnan caused to appear,
In the assembly they brought abundance,
In the land they brought the breath of life,
The decrees of the god they direct,
The contents of the warehouses they multiply,
The storehouses they fill full.

In the house of the poor, hugging the dust,
Entering they bring abundance;
The pair of them wherever they stand,
Bring heavy increase into the house;
The place where they stand they sate, the place where they sit they supply,
They made good the heart of An and Enlil.

The story continues with Lahar and Ashnan drinking too much wine and arguing over the farms and fields. The argument is stopped by Enlil and Enki.

(Sumerian Mythology A study of Spiritual and Literary Achievements in the third Millennium B.C. by Dr. Samuel Noah Kramer, page 53-54).

So you can see they made the brother Lahar be a sheep herder and the sister Ashnan be in charge of the farming and household. My belief is these were black children forced or coerced into slave labor by the Cronides. They may have agreed to be a part of the project since the agricultural revolution brought about bounties of food as compared to the hunter gatherer cultures that were present. It's hard to say.

The Dulkug was a holy house/mound and was probably the master's quarters. The myths above clearly tell you that the Anunnaki were dealing with black people. The proof of the Caucasoid nature of these gods/goddesses and their correlation to the Greek gods/goddesses is coming.

by Rita Jean Moran (www.thelibrarykids.com and www.hiddenhumanstory.com)

Links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Du-Ku

[crimethink]

the Mesopotamian People were Black

No, they weren't:

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-iOG5jOynKKk/U1JdHBtM2kI/AAAAAAAAMcg/oNSs7XhXpG4/s1600/blue+eyes+Sumerian+statues+05.jpg

The native name for the Sumerians means "dark heads," so, these folks had dark (brown or black) hair, and obviously, many had blue eyes.

[crimethink]

I'm not an "employee"...I'm an hourly worker.


Ask your local IRS tax center for a formal ruling on that "interpretation."

Or, here, I can help you:

https://www.irs.gov/uac/newsroom/irs-debunks-frivolous-tax-arguments-2014




The IRS doesnt care and has no reason to go after me.


Nope.

The IRS does care, but doesn't know about your tax evasion scam. Yet.

Perhaps you missed my challenge? -

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?95181-A-wager-for-7th-trump





Reason being is they dont have any reportable "income" on file.


Absolutely right! Wow, 7th trump, you CAN tell the truth. I knew you could do it. Good job!

Now, the reality, though, is they have no such data on file because you have conspired with your employer to avoid reporting it.



The employer doesnt file a W3 transmittal with the SSA on my behalf.


The employer is required to file a W-3 or a 1099 for your earnings.




People are only convicted of tax evasion when theres an amount of reportable income on file and they file a 1040 below whats the IRS has on the file.


Would you like to win a FREE Gold American Eagle? It's easy:

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?95181-A-wager-for-7th-trump




You have an arrogant ignorant opinion of unions.
Union membership has nothing at all to do with an individuals choice to participate in SS. Thats a relationship strictly and legally only between the employer and employee where the feds are a third party interest.


Work where union membership is required is always taxable. Disagree? Ask the IRS for a formal clarification on this.



I can defend myself when it comes to the IRS, and have....you however can not.

Really? You can have a FREE Gold American Eagle if you prove your statement:

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?95181-A-wager-for-7th-trump

[Glass]

The word Verily has a particular meaning.... which isn't very very. It's something like Sun God ..... maybe something like that. Geez. I can't remember where I heard that and what it actually means. I'll find it and post.

[crimethink]

The word Verily has a particular meaning.... which isn't very very. It's something like Sun God ..... maybe something like that. Geez. I can't remember where I heard that and what it actually means. I'll find it and post.

It's from Middle English:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/verily

[singular_me]

I do not think sumerians were black but for sure didnt have a fair skin


however the problem is to associate black skin color with the negroid race, and as long as this is not dealt with both sides of argument are only 50% correct

like I have said a gazillion times, there is a battle for the DNA done at the cosmic level and which translates into racism among humans. as above so below. humans again are fighting the war for ((them)). it is just like saying that all blacks are retards when only roughly 50% are negroid. Such cliches will never make anybody right

there are black people, in north africa especially, with green and blue eyes

sumerian statues with blue eyes sure, but how many ancient egyptian statues of royal dynasties with african features?

the world is going down because all races pull the blanket toward their side of the argument. Divide and rule got us all again, and has reached extremely deep psychopathic levels



The native name for the Sumerians means "dark heads," so, these folks had dark (brown or black) hair, and obviously, many had blue eyes.

[Glass]

Abraxas - Lucis
http://i1.wp.com/rosettedelacroix.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/21.jpeg?w=350

Lillith
http://i1.wp.com/rosettedelacroix.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/22.jpg?w=300