UK PM 'would go to war over rock'

[singular_me]

the real purpose of fighting over land/property. Having a property that one can "defend".... is a cause for WAR, or stripping one from it in due time!

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PM 'would go to war over rock': Leading Tories in startling claim that May is ready to defend Gibraltar just like Thatcher did the Falklands
3 April 2017 GMT

‘Theresa May is prepared to go to war over Gibraltar as Margaret Thatcher did over the Falklands, senior Tories claimed yesterday.

Former Conservative leader Lord Howard said the Prime Minister would show the same resolve in defending Gibraltar from Spain as her predecessor did in wresting the Falklands back from Argentina following the 1982 invasion.

And Defence Secretary Sir Michael Fallon said the UK was prepared to go ‘all the way’ to keep the Rock out of Spain’s clutches.

The angry warnings follow the extraordinary bid by Madrid last week to use Brexit to ramp up its historic claim on Gibraltar.

Mrs May yesterday spoke to Gibraltar’s leader Fabian Picardo to reassure him that she would never ‘enter into a process of sovereignty negotiations with which Gibraltar is not content’.’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4374180/Leading-Tories-claim-ready-defend-Gibraltar.html

[crimethink]

An idiot headline only a leftist kook could write.

The real question is, will Spain go to war "over a rock"?

People live in the territory of Gibraltar. And they've made clear they don't want to be subject to Spain.

The status quo between Gibraltar and Spain has been working, and it's Spain's to upset and ignite trouble.

[cheka.]

eu cuck drops the cuck word

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-gibraltar-leader-idUSKBN1750S4

Gibraltar's leader on Monday cast EU Council President Donald Tusk as a "cuckolded husband taking it out on the kids" for explicitly proposing that Spain be given a veto over the ties between the British enclave and the European Union after Brexit.

The future of Gibraltar, a British Overseas Territory of just over 2-square miles (6.7 sq km) of rock on Spain's southern tip, has become the first big dispute of Brexit since Prime Minister Theresa May filed formal divorce papers on March 29.

In the EU's draft position on the exit talks distributed by Tusk, Gibraltar was given explicit mention. Spain was specifically named as having a veto on the application of any future EU trade deal with Britain.

"Mr Tusk, who has been given to using the analogies of the divorce and divorce petition, is behaving like a cuckolded husband who is taking it out on the children," Gibraltar's chief minister, Fabian Picardo, told Reuters in an interview.

"This is clear Spanish bullying."

Picardo said the EU should remove the reference to Gibraltar, which voted overwhelmingly to stay in the EU, from the draft guidelines.

[crimethink]

"Mr Tusk, who has been given to using the analogies of the divorce and divorce petition, is behaving like a cuckolded husband who is taking it out on the children," Gibraltar's chief minister, Fabian Picardo, told Reuters in an interview.


LOL

Someone should ask Tusk if Germany should have a veto over what the Polacks do in East Prussia.

[singular_me]

NWO creates and undoes all status quos... just wait for the right political environment, they all are designed as programmable time bombs.

[Horn]

U.K. would be as likely to give up Gibraltar as it would Israel or the E.U. itself for that matter.

It owns them all.

[singular_me]

Thats the british crown seal and no kidding the text is in french:
God and my right
Rejected will be which thinks of evil (something like that)

and the Unicorn on top of that... .................. Glass any idea?

La fleur the Lys is definitely a french esoteric merovingian symbol


https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia% 2Fen%2F3%2F38%2FCoat_of_Arms_of_the_British_Govern ment.jpg&f=1

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.richmondscots.org%2Fimg%2Fengl and_royal.png&f=1

[Glass]

King Edward III claimed the French throne which might be why it is in French. That is when the Fleur de Lis appeared for the first time. All according to Wiki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_coat_of_arms_of_the_United_Kingdom).

I would almost expect the "slogan" to be in Latin but it isn't.

Official description of the Crown Coat of Arms:


Quarterly, first and fourth Gules three Lions passant gardant in pale Or armed and langued Azure (for England), second quarter Or a Lion rampant within a double tressure flory-counter-flory Gules (for Scotland), third quarter Azure a Harp Or stringed Argent (for Ireland), the whole surrounded by the Garter; for a Crest, upon the Royal helm the Imperial Crown Proper, thereon a Lion statant gardant Or imperially crowned Proper; Mantling Or and Ermine; for Supporters, dexter a Lion rampant gardant Or crowned as the Crest, sinister a Unicorn Argent armed, crined and unguled Proper, gorged with a Coronet Or composed of Crosses patées and Fleurs-de-lis a Chain affixed thereto passing between the forelegs and reflexed over the back also Or. Motto "Dieu et mon Droit" in the compartment below the shield, with the Union Rose, Shamrock and Thistle engrafted on the same stem

I've always been curious about the chained Unicorn. The unicorn is supposed to represent the defeat of Scotland and the unification of the the two Kingdoms. I get the feeling that it symbolizes us. The horn might be the third eye, the natural intuition or knowledge that would lead to freedom but is chained and calcified. I can't think of a reason you would chain a unicorn to the "earth".

The lion is from Richard the Lionheart

The Lion and the Unicorn (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lion_and_the_Unicorn) - wiki



The lion and the unicorn
Were fighting for the crown
The lion beat the unicorn
All around the town.

Some gave them white bread,
And some gave them brown;
Some gave them plum cake
and drummed them out of town.

[singular_me]

tnx Glass, just made another quick search, and here is what I found out, I am sure there is more to it but I am lacking time to dig further

Traditionally the relationship between the lion and unicorn was antagonistic, and there is reference to this in Chaldean Art as early as 3500 B.C. http://www.thebeasts.info/learning/symbolism.html

===================== LETS KEEP THE FOCUS A BIT

‘Gibraltar is famous for its 426m high limestone ridge and tax haven status. It is also famous for having Europe’s only wild population of monkeys – all 320 of them. It boasts a total area of just 6.8 square kilometres or 2.6 square miles, a total area approximately one third smaller than Bicester Village Shopping Mall in Oxfordshire. Most of the population of this peninsula live in flats, crammed on land at the base of the rock where around 12% of the workforce is employed by Gibraltar’s big online gaming industry, who are there to evade taxes – quite legally of course. There is no inheritance tax, no VAT, no capital gains tax and low income and corporation tax. GDP is approximately $2 billion dollars, or 300 per cent per head of the average British citizens output back home in good Old Blighty.

Gibraltar even has its very own Mossack Fonseca offices; the very same company involved in the global Panama Papers scandal.’
http://truepublica.org.uk/eu/gibraltar-tax-haven-not-nation/

[Glass]

The "Commonwealth" has many territories. 52 of them. A significant number of them are tax havens. There are several havens close to the English isles, however the vast majority of them exist from the southern portion of the american gulf east through the Caribbean. A territories natural resources generally determines it's tax status.

The Commonwealth territories that have natural resources that can be exploited have tax and royalty regimes in place to capture the wealth of those natural resources as they are exploited.

The territories that don't have natural resources will usually have low or no tax regimes because there is no natural resource wealth to capture. These no or low tax regime territories are labeled as Tax Havens. In most cases they are small outpost type territories that a situated at the territorial extremities of the Commonwealth empire.

Some may not be at the extremities of the empire now. but they were when they were established.

Most of these tax haven territories have self rule or are protectorates with an Administrator. They are often have significant foreign populates with a number of individuals who for what ever reason have found encouragement to relocate to these small and remote locations. They might be encouraged to lay low to avoid the fall out of a scandal or rule breaking or some other reason.

Most of these territories are subject to the behaviours of some prominent person(s) which can be best described as being under Letters of Marque and Reprisal (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_of_marque). These individuals have license to maximise their profits so long as they do not create too much scandal within the specific territory or territories where they operate.

Tax Havens are commercial in nature and provide corporate facilities for businesses and corporations to conduct business world wide from a low or no taxation jurisdiction. These operations usually establish a company within the jurisdiction of the tax haven often using local representatives as company officers. Local representatives might include Lawyers, Accountants, other Shelf Companies or private individuals who agree to their names being used as officer holders of the tax haven companies. Shelf Companies often have other Shelf Companies as officer holders and share holders and those shelf companies can do the same. This obfuscates the true owners or controllers identities thereby protecting them from investigation by authorities.

By utilising inter company transactions, corporations trading in other jurisdictions can transfer costs and expenses to high taxing jurisdictions and profits to low or no tax jurisdictions. Mostly this practice is tolerated because powerful persons and families utilise these facilities to reduce their taxation and at the same time they have access to private and confidential information of other parties using the system. They can leverage that information in order to receive kickbacks and special payments in return for maintaining that confidentiality.

[Neuro]

Somewhere I got the idea that Spains posturing re Gibraltar, was somehow due to the possible disintegration of U.K., if Scotland decides to leave UK, they (the Spaniards) would resist Scotland joining the EU, mainly because if this becomes the reality for Scotland it could also become the reality for Catalonia or Basque region, which Spain vehemently rejects. Thus as Gibraltar has voted to remain in EU, Spain has offered to take over the governance of Gibraltar, instead of independence for Gibraltar. UK on the other hand takes the moment to flex their muscles to show the Scots what they are prepared to do for small countries independence movements.

End result will probably be England and Spain in war over Gibraltar. EU joins Spain. US joins Britain. Mexico, Russia and Canada joins EU due to opposition to US. So full blown WWIII and then Spain annexes Scotland.

[Glass]

Somewhere I got the idea that Spains posturing re Gibraltar, was somehow due to the possible disintegration of U.K., if Scotland decides to leave UK, they (the Spaniards) would resist Scotland joining the EU, mainly because if this becomes the reality for Scotland it could also become the reality for Catalonia or Basque region, which Spain vehemently rejects. Thus as Gibraltar has voted to remain in EU, Spain has offered to take over the governance of Gibraltar, instead of independence for Gibraltar. UK on the other hand takes the moment to flex their muscles to show the Scots what they are prepared to do for small countries independence movements.

End result will probably be England and Spain in war over Gibraltar. EU joins Spain. US joins Britain. Mexico, Russia and Canada joins EU due to opposition to US. So full blown WWIII and then Spain annexes Scotland.

I think it's a case of pissing in to a tea cup. Neither have much in the way of naval capabilities at the moment. The UK could possibly muster a bit more force in the water but air support might be an issue. New flight deck being commissioned now but I still think it's a year or so away from anything serious. They will have to come out of north africa. Not sure what they have there. Cyprus is too far away without refueling support. Would the US or some one else provide that assistance?

I think at best it would be a skirmish with lots of EU fiscal punishment of Spain to follow. Still the EU is clearly psychotic over Brexit and Spain owes Germany big time according to the German Left. So who knows. Throw some hairy spaniards to the bulldogs and see what happens.

[Horn]

So full blown WWIII and then Spain annexes Scotland.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2iSS-eKCGM