Gerba Strongarm Blade - Made in Portland OR.

[Glass]

You will find a lot of YT's on this knife. Some general overviews, some I got a new ubertacticalzompocalypse blade. You will also find some interesting torture test videos.

Had this for a while now. Unsure about Gerba after aligning themselves with that Grills guy and producing a whole line of mostly crap products. I think the blades and multitools got panned for being a bit light duty. Other stuff not so bad.

Anyway. This one had good reviews. I was looking for a nearly cheap solid utility blade. It seemed to take the torture tests fairly well. Tests that other blades that I thought are higher quality didn't fare so well in.

Sells for around $50 USD AFAIK which is good value IMO.http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/KdIAAOSw4GVYT8xW/s-l1600.jpg

Has a decent grip. The grip is flat on either side with a scallop in the middle of each face. Has has a bulge in the middle that runs on the top and bottom edges of the handle. Flares at each end of the grip. The texture is fairly aggressive. Over all provides good grippage, resists twisting. Quite good when wet.

Appears to be a full tang blade. It has a window breaker / tie point on the end. Without access to a xray machine or cutting the handle off I'll take their word for it. The rigidity of the knife supports the claim although there might be a cut out in the middle of the handle.

Blade is a good thickness through the spine. I haven't put calipers to it for measure. Sure there are some specs out there somewhere. Nice edge out of the box. You could easily run this knife from new without doing any sharpening. I put my stones across it to smooth the grind a bit. Added a little bit to the sharpness while I was at it. I personally would like to do some more but for now it's good enough. Not quite the razor of my sog.

I was able to choose from several in stock. I took a look down the handle and spine to make sure everything was nice and aligned and straight. They all seemed to be spot on to my eye. No deviation in the blade and the handle / blade were in perfect alignment.

The blade has partial serrations, which I'm not a big fan of. Who needs serrations he tells himself while simultaneously slicing the tips of both index fingers trying to lock the blade in the sharpening vice. Those kinds of cuts take longer to congeal than a clean slice. Take that for what it's worth.

The sheath is a highlight. It's very versatile. I'm not sure how rugged it is but it is flexible for various carry/lashing options. Rigid ambi direction sheath. Blade can go in either way. Has a good solid click when pushed home. Has very good retention. I've given it a good shaking and haven't been able to dislodge the knife. Mine does have about 3/16 of in out movement once clicked home. I'm not sure if that is the nature of the sheath or an issue with this sheath. It wasn't something I checked for when buying the knife. It would be interesting to see if other knifes have the same play once clicked into the sheath. Doesn't seem to affect the retention. Doesn't seem to cause any rattling noises, however I think you would need to spend a bit of time running, jumping etc to test that.

Sheath is quite thin something, Kydex or similar. Again I don't know how well it will stand up to abuse. It has 4 cordage lashing points on each side. Some of those points look thin walled to me so I would be interested to see if they are a point of weakness. Each side also has a Belt loop.Not really a loop but you can slip a belt through. Comes with a nylon webbing suspension harness. This has an option for a dangle belt loop and can be adjusted around to extend the dangle. It uses push studs instead of velcro. Everything is nice and tight so you have to pull on ends to get the push studs lined up and they are also tight. So once clipped together it's under good tension. The handle is retained by the same webbing material and a push stud.

The sheath also has a Molle adapter which also doubles as horizontal belt mount. The adapter has 3 flattened loops that you line up with a molle web panel. The loops go between the molle webbing. Then there is a pronged clip that you slide through each adapter loop and behind 2 rows of molle. This way you could fasten the knife to a molle panel or a pack shoulder strap that had 2 or 3 runs of molle on it.
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You can also use this adapter and feed a belt through it length ways. This would result in the knife lying parallel with the belt meaning you would be wearing the knife horizontally on your belt.

Conclusions. Good knife for the money. Blade is solid and takes a bit of effort to sharpen - a good thing. Everything was straight. Handle has good texture and grippage. Flexible sheath mounting as per above. Good sheath retention. Average size knife for utility and general hacking. Glassbreaker/general masher. Cordage tie point. You won't be cleaving logs with it but it will make a useful camping knife or SD carry. Quality fixed knife made in USA.

[crimethink]

I have an ethical problem buying Gerber products. I prefer to patronize companies which kept making as much as possible in America. And which didn't market dangerous toys as serious "survival" equipment.

[C.Martel]

I have an ethical problem buying Gerber products. I prefer to patronize companies which kept making as much as possible in America. And which didn't market dangerous toys as serious "survival" equipment.

Support well made Russian and Chinese products (a rarity among the later). This is why when you boil down to it, the jew hate globalism in its purest sense. China does not serve the jew as much as the "jew S of A". What would you think those persecuted Christians in the jooviet union would say, "I'm buying from the Soviet union", while their fellow Christians are being murdered by the tens of millions, many times tortured in the most jewish way?

Support products made in Russia, China, North Korea, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Somalia, Oman. The jew hates globalism, except that which promotes "world government". Buy from free countries around the globe. Does the jew want a strong China that is opposing zionism? I know it is like supporting Ron Paul, a possible controlled opposition, but to say you wish to buy for the jew S of A is mind-boggling. Flee from the Devil's own.

Support bolivian products, they are apart of humanity:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJdu0OZ9hr8

[crimethink]

Support well made Russian and Chinese products (a rarity among the later). This is why when you boil down to it, the jew hate globalism in its purest sense. China does not serve the jew as much as the "jew S of A". What would you think those persecuted Christians in the jooviet union would say, "I'm buying from the Soviet union", while their fellow Christians are being murdered by the tens of millions, many times tortured in the most jewish way?

Support products made in Russia, China, North Korea, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Somalia, Oman. The jew hates globalism, except that which promotes "world government". Buy from free countries around the globe. Does the jew want a strong China that is opposing zionism? I know it is like supporting Ron Paul, a possible controlled opposition, but to say you wish to buy for the jew S of A is mind-boggling. Flee from the Devil's own.


The US Government does not manufacture most American-made products.

The idea that Red China does not serve the Devil as readily as does the Federal regime is irrational.

I'm pleased to buy Russian products when possible. I'm running Kaspersky, for example. :)

As for buying products from Islamic countries, I try to avoid doing so.





Support bolivian products, they are apart of humanity:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJdu0OZ9hr8

If they made things, I would. I do admire their leadership, who have stood up to the Federal regime's criminality. Especially Evo Morales. Although the patriotards don't like him because he's a "socialist."

[Glass]

I think the attitude of the people I've seen reviewing this particular knife is they want to support US made and are prepared to buy or recommend it because it's a good blade for the money and US made to boot. I think the attitude is, if Gerba sell a lot more US made stuff than their other "stuff" they might get the message to make more US Stuff. Buy American has to have some grass roots momentum to work..... so long as the company gets the message of course.

Part of the off shoring problem is quality control of the final product. Some companies off shore and deploy their superior quality to control to make sure the standard of the end product doesn't drop. If they don't do that then the off shored product will have quality control issues. Some countries have a make it once and make it right philosophy where as others have a make 10% or 15% more product than ordered and maybe there will still be a quantity of suitable items to meet the required ordered amount of product.

I've said before, in my experience the Chinese do this. They supply as much as 20% more product, with the expectation you will still get the 100% suitable product you ordered once you have filtered through all the faulty ones. The problems with this are, you have to:
Be responsible for quality control before shipping to your customer - you should anyway (edit)
Have a returns and exchange system - in case you don't do #1 very well
Pay more for import duties because you pay on what is delivered not what is ordered
Make a lot more apologies for poor quality, meaning you could lose Goodwill amongst your customers
Have a system for disposing of the poor quality product either to waste or as seconds. A market full of seconds with your name on it is ultimately not good IMO. Possibly No better than selling 100% inferior product. (edit)

You might get lucky and end up with 10% or more free product which is fault free but you might not be geared to sell that extra product, you might not have to pay for the extra product but anything that was unsellable still costs you on import duties and bonded warehousing... unless you have access to a free trade zone... although bonded warehousing is probably still going to apply.

Hopefully Gerba have learned some valuable lessons and will bring more of their production back to the US. Time will tell.

Eastern Bloc products are generally well made. Functional, reliable, robust, ergonomic and utilitarian. All desirable traits in my opinion. And not completely without style. Maybe understated but that is also ok with me.

[Jewboo]

Kinda still on topic...I have a set of expensive German Henckels and a fancy Spyderco sharpener that I never use. Instead, I happily use daily just this cheapo RADA KNIFE (https://www.amazon.com/Rada-Cutlery-W206-Butcher-Stainless/dp/B001GUVSIQ/ref=pd_sim_79_8?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B001GUVSIQ&pd_rd_r=37BYNDSEQEM1W94XD0ST&pd_rd_w=Q4pTC&pd_rd_wg=jZ8lV&psc=1&refRID=37BYNDSEQEM1W94XD0ST) and very quick RADA SHARPENER (https://www.amazon.com/Rada-Cutlery-Sharpener-Hardened-R119/dp/B001692XPE/ref=sr_1_1?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1491802147&sr=1-1&keywords=Rada+Cutlery+Quick+Edge+Knife+Sharpener).



http://fcbayern.ge/engine/data/emoticons/oldman.gif In hindsight I wasted a lot of money buying snob Brand Name status stuff over the years

[Half Sense]

The Henckels are good knives. I used them as a cook and meat carver and we have used a set at home for many years. That said, there are a lot of good cheap knives now.

I went looking at fixed-blade survival knives recently and ended up with the Ontario 499 Air Force knife. A simple, rugged do-all knife for less than $50.

8969

[Glass]

I would like an Ontario. Haven't found a local dealer yet. I've tried to get blades shipped interstate but companies seem reluctant. For some reason personal imports of blades gets frowned upon and everything is controlled this or controlled that. So .. the search continues.

I thought I would do a quick search as its been a couple years since I looked. I might have some real options.

I also see Joe Pardue is designing knives for Ontario. They aren't a part of the benchmade stable are they?

What I really want/need is a good machete but really have no idea whats good. So if anyone has a suggestion based on experience.

[Dogman]

I would like an Ontario. Haven't found a local dealer yet. I've tried to get blades shipped interstate but companies seem reluctant. For some reason personal imports of blades gets frowned upon and everything is controlled this or controlled that. So .. the search continues.

I thought I would do a quick search as its been a couple years since I looked. I might have some real options.

I also see Joe Pardue is designing knives for Ontario. They aren't a part of the benchmade stable are they?

What I really want/need is a good machete but really have no idea whats good. So if anyone has a suggestion based on experience. Ontario and kbar are in many ways the same. Both make great knifes, but with Ontario you are not paying for the name.

At one time both companies were joined at the hips back in the day making the same knife.

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[Glass]

Ontario and kbar are in many ways the same. Both make great knifes, but with Ontario you are not paying for the name.

At one time both companies were joined at the hips back in the day making the same knife.

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When I saw the knife Half Sense posted about I immediately thought of the Ka-bar USMC blade. That could explain the similarity. On my want list but I really wanted to find a good Ex Service model. Finding any condition one here is like looking for rocking horse shit. I did see one about 3 year ago but I was broke at the time. Since then the pickings have gotten very slim. Also looking for an M4 bayonet. And again 3 year ago there were some good examples. We had a big turn out at the militaria show back then but since it's been quiet. Maybe those guys were from out of state. I don't know but I haven't seen them since. I'm pretty picky when it comes to pre loved blades. I don't want one that is going to mean a lot of work re-honing. Maybe hoping for too much.

[Dogman]

When I saw the knife Half Sense posted about I immediately thought of the Ka-bar USMC blade. That could explain the similarity. On my want list but I really wanted to find a good Ex Service model. Finding any condition one here is like looking for rocking horse shit. I did see one about 3 year ago but I was broke at the time. Since then the pickings have gotten very slim. Also looking for an M4 bayonet. And again 3 year ago there were some good examples. We had a big turn out at the militaria show back then but since it's been quiet. Maybe those guys were from out of state. I don't know but I haven't seen them since. I'm pretty picky when it comes to pre loved blades. I don't want one that is going to mean a lot of work re-honing. Maybe hoping for too much. I suspect Ontario has gov contracts to do blades for them. I love the steel in them, they do hold an edge, and are dam near dummy proof, (GI)

The older blades , mostly pure carbon steel tho need more Tlc!

well what can I say, good steel is good steel, good luck on your search, I suspect your down under nanny state has something to do with the lack of availability in some ways. Hell if I had the cash I would buy you one and ship it, but your vat tax and other shit would make things higher than a cats back.

Plus not sure what hoops I would have to jump through to get one to you.

Speaking of?

how is the cat, or has it ran off or used its other 8 or so life's.

[Glass]

I suspect Ontario has gov contracts to do blades for them. I love the steel in them, they do hold an edge, and are dam near dummy proof, (GI)

The older blades , well what can I say, good steel is good steel, good luck on your search, I suspect your down under nanny state has something to do with the lack of availability in some ways. Hell if I had the cash I would buy you one and ship it, but your vat tax and other shit would make things higher than a cats back.

Plus not sure what hoops I would have to jump through to get one to you.

Speaking of?

how is the cat, or has it ran off or used its other 8 or so life's.

Appreciate the thought. I should try and import a cheap blade to see what happens. Stories I hear from others is the blades just don't get through but then you hear propaganda of "they're going to start prosecuting etc". I should be able to ship from another state but again, either people don't want to take online orders or they only want to sell in state.

cats ok. pretty much running the show. Used 3 lives now I reckon. There's a guy with a ridgeback and he's trained it to hunt. The cats had 3 run ins with it now. First time was very bloody and the cat was badly torn up. The guy was all pretend sorry but I've noticed he runs it off a leash. It doesn't bark or anything, just snorts and goes in. Then there's all this banging about. I know it's not cats fighting amongst themselves because there is none of that noise they make before or when they fight. And it's on the ground. He seems to swap around a bit, dusk, after midnight or pre dawn. There were stories last year from maybe 5 miles down the road of a couple dozen cats being torn to pieces by a dog. I think it's the same dude and he's moved or he just got the idea from the news. I can't be up all night watching out for this guy but if I catch him at it again I might be on the nightly news.

[Dogman]

Appreciate the thought. I should try and import a cheap blade to see what happens. Stories I hear from others is the blades just don't get through but then you hear propaganda of "they're going to start prosecuting etc". I should be able to ship from another state but again, either people don't want to take online orders or they only want to sell in state.

cats ok. pretty much running the show. Used 3 lives now I reckon. There's a guy with a ridgeback and he's trained it to hunt. The cats had 3 run ins with it now. First time was very bloody and the cat was badly torn up. The guy was all pretend sorry but I've noticed he runs it off a leash. It doesn't bark or anything, just snorts and goes in. Then there's all this banging about. I know it's not cats fighting amongst themselves because there is none of that noise they make before or when they fight. And it's on the ground. He seems to swap around a bit, dusk, after midnight or pre dawn. There were stories last year from maybe 5 miles down the road of a couple dozen cats being torn to pieces by a dog. I think it's the same dude and he's moved or he just got the idea from the news. I can't be up all night watching out for this guy but if I catch him at it again I might be on the nightly news.
Would not hurt to try, but nanny states?

Cat haters with dogs.. Should be a karma thing for those assets wipes!

But also the nature of Kats also comes into play

Does yours still have full running gear?

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[monty]

Ontario and kbar are in many ways the same. Both make great knifes, but with Ontario you are not paying for the name.

At one time both companies were joined at the hips back in the day making the same knife.

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The best pocket knife I ever owned was a PW Ostwald handmade in Baker Oregon. He made knives from the 1930s until 1960. I got one of the last ones made. The workmanship was rough, like the photo. I believe the old guy's eyes were going bad. The real old PW Ostwald knives had green handles. My little brother found one on the creek bank one day when we were fishing.

I killed a deer and gutted him on the side of a mountain. I left my knife laying on a big flat rock. I didn't miss it until I was home.

There is a picture of an older 3 blade version I can't copy here: https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/p-w-ostwald-co-baker-or-c-1930-60s-rare-stock
The workmanship is much better.

PW OTSWALD, Baker, Oregon Handmade Pocket Knives (https://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/knife_forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=44401&view=next)



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[monty]

Craiglist, 12 PW Ostwald blades salvaged from his shop for sale in Boise, Idaho


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A Group of 12 Vintage P.W. Ostwald Pocket Knife Blades12 days ago
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A Group of 12 Vintage P.W. Ostwald Pocket Knife Blades-
This group of blades was removed from the old P.W. Ostwald Machine Shop
in Baker, Oregon, when it was closed a few years ago.

From the 1920's thru the 1950's Ostwald and his mentor, Frank Warren were
noted for removing the blades from factory knives in order to install their own
forgings. We discovered a wide assortment of P.W. Ostwald marked blades,
that had been forged but never installed. Ostwald mainly made
stockman patterns, so most would fall into that catagory.

These blades are unused but heavily stained from age. There are 4 master blades and 8 secondary blades to create 4 stockman pattern pocket knives.

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do NOT contact me with unsolicited services or offers

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