Thuggery on a Plane

[crimethink]

United Airlines have goons forcibly remove Asian doctor from plane, in order to accommodate United employees.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4396986/Passengers-film-moment-police-drag-man-United-plane.html

http://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/2017/04/10/video-shows-man-forcibly-removed-united-flight-chicago-louisville/100274374/



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrDWY6C1178

[crimethink]

Does anyone have a rational explanation why willful overbooking of a flight is not felony fraud?

[midnight rambler]

Does anyone have a rational explanation why willful overbooking of a flight is not felony fraud?

It wasn't a matter of 'overbooking' it was a matter of some United supervisor deciding that he or she (probably a she) would remove a passenger who paid for a seat in order to transport another United employee to another location (the claim is that the employee was being transported to be available at another location although it could have actually been a United employee flying 'standby').

I just love United's statement on the matter. lol

ETA: the victim was 69 y.o. in some jurisdictions such an assault would be considered abuse of the elderly.

[midnight rambler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmxcTtS22u8

[crimethink]

I haven't flown since before 9/11. And never will again.

But if I was on that flight, there's no way I wouldn't have gotten my head bashed in, as well, since I couldn't have just sat there and simply watched that shit.

[Glass]

I've been reading the comments at ZH and a disappointing number (more than 1) of people think this is ok.

Apparently United A-holes has a term and condition that says you can be forced to volunteer to get off if they need the seat.

The specifics seems to be that it applies only if you are denied boarding. Once boarded there doesn't seem to be that condition.

What ever happened to Airline staff using the Jump seats to get from port to port? They have union conditions of a passenger seat now or something? I don't know if these domestic planes have crew cribs/bunks or not. I'm guessing not. Unfamiliar with what size they are.

Hope the guy sues. Hope his patients don't suffer. Hope the airline does. Very bad juju.

[singular_me]

dont know but considering 1 passenger as "overbooking" doesnt add up. Every time I get into a plane, I see 2 or more attendants seats empty because plane crews are limited, especially on national flights

if he ever sues, he will win the case.

[boogietillyapuke]

I finally heard that there were 4 passengers removed after the media showed the same video repetitively all day. A talking head for some group stated that they randomly selected when no one volunteered. (Seating chart on wall and throw darts).

I suggest that they put some extra "D-rings" on the floor and carry extra sets of seat belts for just this type event. Let crew fly sitting on the floor. Probably less than than an hour from Chicago to Louisville.

[Ares]

I finally heard that there were 4 passengers removed after the media showed the same video repetitively all day. A talking head for some group stated that they randomly selected when no one volunteered. (Seating chart on wall and throw darts).

I suggest that they put some extra "D-rings" on the floor and carry extra sets of seat belts for just this type event. Let crew fly sitting on the floor. Probably less than than an hour from Chicago to Louisville.

Or rent a car on the companies dime and just have them drive it. It'll take about 8 hours give or take from Chicago to Louisville. Instead they've already cost themselves over 500 million in market capitalization due to share prices plunging.

[EE_]

Or rent a car on the companies dime and just have them drive it. It'll take about 8 hours give or take from Chicago to Louisville. Instead they've already cost themselves over 500 million in market capitalization due to share prices plunging.

It will cost United much more then that before all losses are totaled. I'd be willing to bet the person that made that dumb call was a liberal that voted Hillary. Incapable of reasoning.
They could have rented the Trump jet to fly the 4 staff members and saved a boatload of money.

[crimethink]

Now rumors are circulating that the victim is a pervert:

https://scallywagandvagabond.com/2017/04/david-thanh-duc-dao-unites-airlines-doctor-overbooked-flight/

[Ares]

Now rumors are circulating that the victim is a pervert:

https://scallywagandvagabond.com/2017/04/david-thanh-duc-dao-unites-airlines-doctor-overbooked-flight/

His medical license was revoked because of it.

http://www.state.ky.us/agencies/kbml/finalorders/22439.pdf

But it's nice that the media can dig up his past to drag his name through the mud when the airline screwed up and overbooked like ALL AIRLINES do.

[midnight rambler]

Now rumors are circulating that the victim is a pervert:

https://scallywagandvagabond.com/2017/04/david-thanh-duc-dao-unites-airlines-doctor-overbooked-flight/

Yet this perv is golden and someone to be admired -

https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/hillary-clinton2.jpg?w=450

[ximmy]

http://libertynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Screen-Shot-2017-04-11-at-7.27.06-AM-1024x570.png

https://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/screen-shot-2017-04-10-at-1-25-00-pm.png?w=600&h=597

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/04/10/23/3F24DD3F00000578-4399512-image-a-15_1491864113730.jpg

http://libertynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/flight.jpg

https://media.tenor.co/images/b793581a9650dbcd20ec82cacc8de8f0/tenor.gif

https://68.media.tumblr.com/57e1a9445d0a4a0ce6bba08b8c88b354/tumblr_inline_onot9zfQKM1tlyj0p_500.gif

[Atocha]

Does anyone have a rational explanation why willful overbooking of a flight is not felony fraud?

Agreed! Especially since once you bought a ticket in your name, you can't change it into another name or change to another flight easily.

You should not overbook a plane.

[Joshua01]

United Airlines loses $900 million in market value as shares tumblehttp://finance.yahoo.com/news/united-airlines-shares-tumbling-140648573.html

[ximmy]

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2017/04/10/20170411_united1.jpg

Jayse D Anspach, who posted footage that went viral, tweeted: "#United overbooked and wanted four of us to volunteer to give up our seats for personnel that needed to be at work the next day."
"No one volunteered, so United decided to choose for us. They chose an Asian doctor and his wife."

"The doctor needed to work at the hospital the next day, so he refused to volunteer," Mr Anspach added.

"Ten minutes later, the doctor runs back into the plane with a bloody face, clings to a post in the back, chanting, "I need to go home."

A video that appears to show the man back on the plane, dazed and with blood around his mouth, saying "just kill me", has also emerged online.

https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/prwsr62fotqy.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&w=620


https://i.imgur.com/spccuZ8h.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/04/10/23/3F24DD2B00000578-4396986-image-a-9_1491864529616.jpg

https://pics.onsizzle.com/united-introducing-the-new-assaultplus-explorer-act-now-get-beat-18727151.png

[Joshua01]

United will be gone in less than 6 months because of this. Plenty of other airlines to fill the void.

[cheka.]

media pulled another trayvon/mike brown on this one - misleading

[ximmy]

media pulled another trayvon/mike brown on this one - misleading


https://cdn.meme.am/instances/56651667.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/138/326604014_56890fa4cc_z.jpg?zz=1



https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder319/52639319.jpg

[crimethink]

media pulled another trayvon/mike brown on this one - misleading

What's misleading? Three goons, at least one a Nigger, manhandle a Vietnamese guy because United staff miscalculated and inconvenienced themselves, so they chose to inconvenience paying passengers.

[cheka.]

media pulled another trayvon/mike brown on this one - misleading

the other side of the story lessens the emotional impact that nyc imposed on the populace

[crimethink]

the other side of the story lessens the emotional impact that nyc imposed on the populace

What "other side"? The corporate side? Without dozens of passengers filming this, the Jewsmedia would have only reported that side. Like the Spic CEO said, "belligerent passenger." The "authorities" were "doing their job."

Already, they picked up on the doctor's past, as though that lessens Jewnited Airlines' guilt.

[cheka.]

What "other side"? The corporate side? Without dozens of passengers filming this, the Jewsmedia would have only reported that side. Like the Spic CEO said, "belligerent passenger." The "authorities" were "doing their job."

Already, they picked up on the doctor's past, as though that lessens Jewnited Airlines' guilt.

those are some of the things that weren't included in initial reporting that would have lessened the emotional impact the nyc.media wanted. no accident

digging a little deeper - did the contract between guy and UAL allow UAL to bump him off? and if so, was the contract cheaper than a no-bump contract? did UAL violate the terms of the deal?

it is reasonable to assume that UAL was within their contractual rights and the guy refused to honor his side....all the way up to force having to be applied to remove him

[ximmy]

Published on Apr 11, 2017
Funny sketch taken from night talk show amid the bad press United has been getting lately. Enjoy!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y8HdeHtOJs


Funny twitter

#NewUnitedAirlinesMottos


Window, aisle or wheelchair?

The free market can be a real you-know-what.
In other news, people are having a heyday mocking United on Twitter. I’m so glad I’m not in charge of cleaning up their PR nightmare, because I find way too many of these tweets hilarious.

Uh-oh pic.twitter.com/Yd18RBTgio (https://t.co/Yd18RBTgio)
— National Post (@nationalpost) April 10, 2017 (https://twitter.com/nationalpost/status/851527884913213443)
#NewUnitedAirlinesMottos is the greatest thing on the internet right now.

"Drag And Drop" #NewUnitedAirlinesMottos (https://twitter.com/hashtag/NewUnitedAirlinesMottos?src=hash) @united (https://twitter.com/united) pic.twitter.com/pYmmR9Ki4e (https://t.co/pYmmR9Ki4e)
— Jacob Henry (@JakeMikeHenry) April 11, 2017 (https://twitter.com/JakeMikeHenry/status/851801901070925825)

"We're altering our seating arrangements, pray we don't alter them any further" #NewUnitedAirlinesMottos (https://twitter.com/hashtag/NewUnitedAirlinesMottos?src=hash) pic.twitter.com/KJ8mPUNTVx (https://t.co/KJ8mPUNTVx)
— Daniel Oz (@DanielTOzborne) April 11, 2017 (https://twitter.com/DanielTOzborne/status/851734253452881920)

OUR SERVICE WILL KNOCK YOU OUT #NewUnitedAirlinesMottos (https://twitter.com/hashtag/NewUnitedAirlinesMottos?src=hash) pic.twitter.com/2c3L7SNiTr (https://t.co/2c3L7SNiTr)
— @GoodJuJu (@JudiMolla) April 11, 2017 (https://twitter.com/JudiMolla/status/851772538845880320)

#NewUnitedAirlinesMottos (https://twitter.com/hashtag/NewUnitedAirlinesMottos?src=hash)
You'll love our silver service: pic.twitter.com/Nya29A531E (https://t.co/Nya29A531E)
— Stuey Phooey (@StueyPhooey) April 11, 2017 (https://twitter.com/StueyPhooey/status/851785036219244544)

Life's a drag. Come fly with us. pic.twitter.com/zijrenR5gb (https://t.co/zijrenR5gb) #NewUnitedAirlinesMottos (https://twitter.com/hashtag/NewUnitedAirlinesMottos?src=hash)
— Lauren Werner (@LaurenWern) April 11, 2017 (https://twitter.com/LaurenWern/status/851810438975291393)

"Welcome aboard @united (https://twitter.com/united) Airlines! And may the odds be EVER in your favor!" @#NewUnitedAirlinesMottos (https://twitter.com/hashtag/NewUnitedAirlinesMottos?src=hash) pic.twitter.com/EzKA2nbcQl (https://t.co/EzKA2nbcQl)
— NIT Stan (@NITStan) April 11, 2017 (https://twitter.com/NITStan/status/851810574128353282)

#NewUnitedAirlinesMottos (https://twitter.com/hashtag/NewUnitedAirlinesMottos?src=hash) We put the "hospital" in hospitality!
— Kinetic Kennons (@KineticKennons) April 11, 2017 (https://twitter.com/KineticKennons/status/851808798188609536)

Please return your seat to the upright position and secure your seatbelt in preperation for your beating. #NewUnitedAirlinesMottos (https://twitter.com/hashtag/NewUnitedAirlinesMottos?src=hash)
— Alex Ingram (@AlexIngram5) April 11, 2017 (https://twitter.com/AlexIngram5/status/851807129803649024)

#NewUnitedAirlinesMottos (https://twitter.com/hashtag/NewUnitedAirlinesMottos?src=hash) Has to be the funniest one I've seen….������ pic.twitter.com/KV1YxXNe5y (https://t.co/KV1YxXNe5y)
— ��DitzyDoo�� (@DitzyDooo) April 11, 2017 (https://twitter.com/DitzyDooo/status/851806118175277056)

"We'll give you something to cry about." #NewUnitedAirlinesMottos (https://twitter.com/hashtag/NewUnitedAirlinesMottos?src=hash)
— Massquatch (@Massquatch) April 11, 2017 (https://twitter.com/Massquatch/status/851805742365638656)

Where all the seats are in the 'nosebleed' section #NewUnitedAirlinesMottos (https://twitter.com/hashtag/NewUnitedAirlinesMottos?src=hash)
— A lynch (@walkslynchy) April 11, 2017 (https://twitter.com/walkslynchy/status/851783197062905857)

#NewUnitedAirlinesMottos (https://twitter.com/hashtag/NewUnitedAirlinesMottos?src=hash)
Why beat your competitors when you can beat your customers?
— Zeldro (@byzeldro) April 11, 2017 (https://twitter.com/byzeldro/status/851761743349133312)

#NewUnitedAirlinesMottos (https://twitter.com/hashtag/NewUnitedAirlinesMottos?src=hash) officially my favourite pic.twitter.com/2ziVOJ0NBC (https://t.co/2ziVOJ0NBC)
— kris peck (@krispeck) April 11, 2017 (https://twitter.com/krispeck/status/851755226855948288)

New Boarding Policy: "Eeny, meeny, miney, mo…" #NewUnitedAirlinesMottos (https://twitter.com/hashtag/NewUnitedAirlinesMottos?src=hash) pic.twitter.com/vMErTbfmaA (https://t.co/vMErTbfmaA)
— ⚡️The Burke Report⚡️ (@TheBurkeReport) April 11, 2017 (https://twitter.com/TheBurkeReport/status/851761457305931776)

#NewUnitedAirlinesMottos (https://twitter.com/hashtag/NewUnitedAirlinesMottos?src=hash)
If you don't give up your seat
You'll get a special treat
— Dave Matt (@davematt88) April 11, 2017 (https://twitter.com/davematt88/status/851760931201851394)

#NewUnitedAirlinesMottos (https://twitter.com/hashtag/NewUnitedAirlinesMottos?src=hash)
If we don't have a seating, we will serve a beating ��
— Ziyue (@ZiyueZzy) April 11, 2017


(https://twitter.com/ZiyueZzy/status/851760462072922112)

[cheka.]

ceo is uber globalist insider - check out the jobs they gave him

http://ir.united.com/corporate-governance/company-leadership

Additionally, Oscar served in various financial and strategic capacities at some of the world’s most recognized consumer brands, including AT&T, Coca-Cola Enterprises, and PepsiCo. Before joining CSX, Oscar held the position of chief financial officer and vice president of consumer services at AT&T Corporation. Prior to joining AT&T, he served as senior vice president of finance and administration for U.S. West, regional vice president of finance and administration for Coca-Cola Enterprises and held various financial positions at PepsiCo.

....board of directors of Continental Airlines

[crimethink]

those are some of the things that weren't included in initial reporting that would have lessened the emotional impact the nyc.media wanted. no accident

digging a little deeper - did the contract between guy and UAL allow UAL to bump him off? and if so, was the contract cheaper than a no-bump contract? did UAL violate the terms of the deal?

it is reasonable to assume that UAL was within their contractual rights and the guy refused to honor his side....all the way up to force having to be applied to remove him

Fuck this "contract" shit. Corporations hide behind "contracts" routinely, and get away with it. They sell you a seat, and then claim they can do what they want based on 20 pages of 2-point font "terms & conditions." That is purely the product of Kike corporate shysters.

Jewnited Airlines could have offered $2000, a first-class seat, and a hotel, and surely people would have taken it. But they Kiked out at $800, and moved to brute force.

[cheka.]

Fuck this "contract" shit. Corporations hide behind "contracts" routinely, and get away with it. They sell you a seat, and then claim they can do what they want based on 20 pages of 2-point font "terms & conditions." That is purely the product of Kike corporate shysters.

Jewnited Airlines could have offered $2000, a first-class seat, and a hotel, and surely people would have taken it. But they Kiked out at $800, and moved to brute force.

your remedy is exactly what they should've done - kept raising the incentive until they got enough people to bite. idiot managers tried to save a few bucks and got burned

dont feel your animosity toward contracts though - i like my and their terms spelled out

http://www.independenttraveler.com/travel-tips/air-travel/bumping-and-overbooking

How to Avoid Getting Bumped from a Flight

If you have obligations in your destination city and absolutely cannot afford to be bumped from a flight, arrive as early as possible at the airport, especially if you're taking a popular route. Better yet, check in online before you even leave for the airport. The last passengers to check in for the flight are typically the ones who find themselves bumped involuntarily. If you're at the gate before the majority of the passengers have checked in, your chances of retaining your original reservation are favorable.

U.S. Department of Transportation statistics show that on average, fewer than one of every 10,000 airline passengers is bumped involuntarily. This number often increases over the holidays and other busy travel seasons, but the volunteer system does in fact work very well, and it is unlikely you will be denied boarding on your next trip.

[crimethink]

dont feel your animosity toward contracts though - i like my and their terms spelled out


Corporatist contracts are always intended to deceive. And one sided.




How to Avoid Getting Bumped from a Flight

We shouldn't have to be discussing this: ticket sold = seat waiting for you. If people don't show up, then keep the money. Wait, they already do!

[ximmy]

World reactions to Chinaman fiasco...

China boycott

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYwv5DOSFjA

Emirates responds with roast... ouch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEevyPse3f8

Two Middle Eastern airlines are trying to make the most of United Airlines’ (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/topic/united-airlines)recent incident.

Shortly after videos and pictures surfaced of a man being violently dragged off (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/united-air-flight-video-man-dragged_us_58eb79b3e4b058f0a0309da4?utm_hp_ref=uni ted-airlines) of a United Airlines flight, Royal Jordanian airlines attempted to seize the moment with a tweet.

“We are here to keep you #united Dragging here is strictly prohibited,” the tweet said. Unfortunately, the airline didn’t stop there and attempted to fit another bad pun into the graphic accompanying the tweet.

“We would like to remind you that drags on our flights are strictly prohibited by passengers and crew,” the text on a graphic read, accompanied by a “no smoking” graphic. In this case, no “drags” meant “no cigarettes.”


We are here to keep you #united (https://twitter.com/hashtag/united?src=hash) Dragging is strictly prohibited �� pic.twitter.com/CSjZD7fM4J (https://t.co/CSjZD7fM4J)
— Royal Jordanian (@RoyalJordanian) April 10, 2017 (https://twitter.com/RoyalJordanian/status/851526371327311873)
People on Twitter had mixed feelings about the tweet. Some thought it was super shady:


@RoyalJordanian (https://twitter.com/RoyalJordanian) pic.twitter.com/wUiPRB2cDO (https://t.co/wUiPRB2cDO)
— Katie (@katieum) April 10, 2017 (https://twitter.com/katieum/status/851539153787506691)

@RoyalJordanian (https://twitter.com/RoyalJordanian) The shade. I can’t take it.
— Maura (@MauraLaa) April 11, 2017 (https://twitter.com/MauraLaa/status/851773616391938049)
Some thought it was a savage takedown:


@RoyalJordanian (https://twitter.com/RoyalJordanian) pic.twitter.com/27p4RbVavS (https://t.co/27p4RbVavS)
— Dimitri Vd Reeck (@DVDReeck) April 11, 2017 (https://twitter.com/DVDReeck/status/851741870371819520)

@RoyalJordanian (https://twitter.com/RoyalJordanian) @liamstack (https://twitter.com/liamstack) the clapback is too strong pic.twitter.com/sg9LvN8UMW (https://t.co/sg9LvN8UMW)
— sam smeltzer (@elyon113) April 10, 2017 (https://twitter.com/elyon113/status/851566651707412480)

@RoyalJordanian (https://twitter.com/RoyalJordanian) Brutal. Just like @united (https://twitter.com/united).
— R&B, Adventuring (@Fika2600) April 11, 2017 (https://twitter.com/Fika2600/status/851790947394347008)
Others thought it was poor taste to capitalize on the moment:


@RoyalJordanian (https://twitter.com/RoyalJordanian) @AirlineGeeks (https://twitter.com/AirlineGeeks) Wow, trolling other airlines is poor form. Wait til you have your own incident.
— Paul Thompson (@FlyingPhotog) April 10, 2017 (https://twitter.com/FlyingPhotog/status/851532606197858304)
Emirates Airlines (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/emirates-airlines/) also tweeted out some shade, using United Airlines CEO Oscar Munoz’s own quotes against him.




Fly the friendly skies with a real airline. pic.twitter.com/wE5C5n6Lvn (https://t.co/wE5C5n6Lvn)
— Emirates airline (@emirates) April 11, 2017 (https://twitter.com/emirates/status/851845063999188994)

[Glass]

but do they allow men dressed as women? Of course rest rooms are already gender identity diversity safe spaces or what ever the hell it is they're called these days.

[Camp Bassfish]

Or rent a car on the companies dime and just have them drive it. It'll take about 8 hours give or take from Chicago to Louisville. Instead they've already cost themselves over 500 million in market capitalization due to share prices plunging.

Or put them on a competing airline.....

[cheka.]

read that this was an EPIC battle of hate crime elite, the combatants all members of the holy trinity - jew, gay, black

bumper - jew corporation (6 million pts) = 6 mm

bumpee - gay asian drug addict (5 pts for asian, 100 pts for drug addict, 5,000 for gay) = 5,105

enforcers - negro po-leese (1,000 pts for police hero, 3,000 for negro) = 4,000

there's the results of the investigation. po-leese were out of line. gay asian drug addict gets compensated. jewcorp skates

[cheka.]

the good doctor should have been thrown off the plane after it had taken off

http://www.texaspolicenews.com/default.aspx?act=Newsletter.aspx&category=News+1-2&newsletterid=66663&menugroup=Home

*The passenger who was bloodied and dragged from a United Airlines flight is 69-year-old grandfather Dr. David Dao, a Vietnamese-American from Kentucky who specializes in internal medicine. But TMZis also reporting that the doctor has been convicted of multiple drug offenses, including exchanging drugs for sex.

Dao was charged in 2005 with 98 felony drug counts for illegally prescribing and trafficking painkillers. Prosecutors claimed he fraudulently filled prescriptions for hydocodone, Oxycontin and Percocet.

Dr. Dao was also convicted on six felony counts of obtaining drugs by fraud and deceit and in 2005 was given five years probation. Additionally, he was convicted for writing prescriptions and checks to a patient in exchange for sex.

[crimethink]

the good doctor should have been thrown off the plane after it had taken off

http://www.texaspolicenews.com/default.aspx?act=Newsletter.aspx&category=News+1-2&newsletterid=66663&menugroup=Home

*The passenger who was bloodied and dragged from a United Airlines flight is 69-year-old grandfather Dr. David Dao, a Vietnamese-American from Kentucky who specializes in internal medicine. But TMZis also reporting that the doctor has been convicted of multiple drug offenses, including exchanging drugs for sex.

Dao was charged in 2005 with 98 felony drug counts for illegally prescribing and trafficking painkillers. Prosecutors claimed he fraudulently filled prescriptions for hydocodone, Oxycontin and Percocet.

Dr. Dao was also convicted on six felony counts of obtaining drugs by fraud and deceit and in 2005 was given five years probation. Additionally, he was convicted for writing prescriptions and checks to a patient in exchange for sex.

Do you have faith in "the authorities"? I sure don't.

[cheka.]

Do you have faith in "the authorities"? I sure don't.

no. nor doctors

[Glass]

no. nor doctors

what sort of Doctor is he? good, bad? medical, philosophical? technical? honorary?

[old steel]

what sort of Doctor is he? good, bad? medical, philosophical? technical? honorary?

Investment doctor, he turned $800.00 ticket into $8 million windfall.