UN experts denounce 'myth' pesticides

[singular_me]

smart dust and nanobots to the rescue now?

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Nanobots in Your Food
Jun 17, 2009
The FDA says it already has the authority to regulate food nanotechnology. The industry says that overly strict regulations are impeding progress in this industry (sounds like the GMO arguments, no?).
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2009/06/nanobots-in-your-food/19469/


January 18, 2017
Smart Dust – The Future of Involuntary Treatment of the Public
http://www.wakingtimes.com/2017/01/18/smart-dust-future-involuntary-treatment-public/
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UN experts denounce 'myth' pesticides are necessary to feed the world
Tuesday 7 March 2017
Report warns of catastrophic consequences and blames manufacturers for ‘systematic denial of harms’ and ‘unethical marketing tactics’
The idea that pesti
cides are essential to feed a fast-growing global population is a myth, according to UN food and pollution experts.

A new report, being presented to the UN human rights council on Wednesday, is severely critical of the global corporations that manufacture pesticides, accusing them of the “systematic denial of harms”, “aggressive, unethical marketing tactics” and heavy lobbying of governments which has “obstructed reforms and paralysed global pesticide restrictions”.

The report says pesticides have “catastrophic impacts on the environment, human health and society as a whole”, including an estimated 200,000 deaths a year from acute poisoning. Its authors said: “It is time to create a global process to transition toward safer and healthier food and agricultural production.”

The world’s population is set to grow from 7 billion today to 9 billion in 2050. The pesticide industry argues that its products – a market worth about $50bn (£41bn) a year and growing – are vital in protecting crops and ensuring sufficient food supplies.

The global pesticides market is worth $50bn and companies lobby heavily to resist reforms and regulations.

more
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/mar/07/un-experts-denounce-myth-pesticides-are-necessary-to-feed-the-world

http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=56311#.WQE5Zzq1tdh

[crimethink]

It's either pesticides, or one billion slaves tending to much-lower-yield crops, removing the pests, by hand. Or "technology"...

Nanotech, but most importantly, Frankenfood, genetically-engineered "pest resistant" crops.

[singular_me]

monoculture is a big problem...

time to embrace permaculture on a large scale.

pests in permaculture self-regulate, pests of one crop is the enemy of another one, it is called companion planting

[crimethink]

monoculture is a big problem...

time to embrace permaculture on a large scale.

pests in permaculture self-regulate, pests of one crop is the enemy of another one, it is called companion planting

You have a cute fantasy.

We can go your proposed route - I actually don't have a problem with it - but the offset will be the reduction of world population to about one billion.

We could adopt organic methods of industrial agriculture if you want to keep the Turd World inhabitants, but it will require many factors more farm labor to handle the pests.

There is a reason world population did not exceed 2 billion until the middle of the 20th Century:

https://www.coachingtohappiness.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/world-population-graph.jpg

It's White technology, specifically, pesticide-ridden, petroleum-driven industrial agriculture.

If you're OK with mass starvation and fall-off-a-cliff birthrate in the Turd World, let's do it.

[Horn]

Is there much difference in eating some aphid ridden corn as opposed to nanobot corn?

besides corporate yield and presentability.

[Glass]

I wonder how much of the world population growth statistic is down to discovery of new continents?

seems odd for someone who hates some peoples to be concerned about them decreasing in numbers.

And the world currently over supply's food. Big agriculture is not about solving hunger but about controlling food supply. To do that they need to destroy other methods of food supply such as individual farming. Then I would expect that big agriculture will have regular farming catastrophes in order to manufacturer scarcity and drive up profits. You know? Like oil? and water? and money value?

[singular_me]

sorry what mainly made populations skyrocket is debt/credit, government creating artificial demand and condition to entice people to have more kids but many useless eaters are now in for a shock, the industrialization era was a smoked screen to enable AI

we cannot resolve the problems with the mindset that created them...

I am sooo through with this system and people who think that predatory behaviors are a way of life because the system prevents from being creative and restricted by the catch 22 that is profit-production (that if we want profits we must always consumer more, and breakdowns are called bankruptcies or market crashes because the profit oriented premise is a fallacy)..... oooh resource based economies are a scam, its communism... well, then lets the system come to screeching end and welcome rationing and universal basic income them.

Nature made/makes it clear, you want to profit from me, then suffer the consequences. 4000 years of much of the same as an evidence, and getting worse daily

that is where everything fits in. Massive jobless waves could offer voluntary options such as this one.

Monoculture depletes soils because all the same crops on the same field compete for the same nutrients... our models have the macro vision completely wrong.On purpose of course

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Urban Agroecoloy: 6,000 lbs of food on 1/10th acre - Urban Homestead - Urban Permaculture
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?95408-Urban-Agroecoloy-6-000-lbs-of-food-on-1-10th-acre

[woodman]

The sooner we stop using enormous amounts of pesticides the better. We are poisoning our planet. We are poisoning ourselves. Pesticides will still have a place in agriculture but they should be cut way back. I don't see anything wrong with increasing farm workers numbers. Put all the ass-sitters to work or let them starve. Fine choice I think. As far as human population, I believe the use of antibiotics is the main contributing factor to population overgrowth. Pesticides have helped not doubt, especially in areas where malaria and other tropical diseases are endemic.

[singular_me]

yes, antibiotics are for sure another factor but everything is connected. Follow the big pharma money trail... and lets look closer at the picture: the overuse of antibiotics has now too made humans and animals less resistant and now prone to (concocted) SUPER bugs.

That is what I call myopia. Pushing antibiotics for profit and now 80% of the pigs/cows in those factory farms/feedlots are stuffed with antibiotics that keep them on life support. Everything we have created for profits is taking us down.

how smart are we really... ???

it is like the anti-bacterial soap contaminating our rivers and of course oceans. the FDA banned it 2 or 3 months ago, gave firms until 2017 to get rid of it... ooops it was a mistake. Laughable.

There is no way out but total collapse

not so surprisingly, was we entered the mega boom after WW2, world population began to explode steadily... Penicillin discovered - Feb 14, 1929 ... big pharma cashing in to save the masses from diseases and now cashing in to kill us all. The chart is going to take a big dive soon.


https://www.coachingtohappiness.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/world-population-graph.jpg

http://www.mybudget360.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/total-credit-market-debt-us.png

[singular_me]

another eye opener... population growth in the industrialized world vs developing world. the antibiotic boom along with humanitarian aid (credit) made it happen

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Civ6Ec_J7ms/UnP8uDl4L1I/AAAAAAAAIJA/Iph4JI9NJro/s1600/world+population+graph.jpg

[madfranks]

I wonder how much of the world population growth statistic is down to discovery of new continents?

seems odd for someone who hates some peoples to be concerned about them decreasing in numbers.

And the world currently over supply's food. Big agriculture is not about solving hunger but about controlling food supply. To do that they need to destroy other methods of food supply such as individual farming. Then I would expect that big agriculture will have regular farming catastrophes in order to manufacturer scarcity and drive up profits. You know? Like oil? and water? and money value?

Just because one may have a high opinion of their own people doesn't mean they hate everyone else. I acknowledge that whites are the primary reason we have modern society (almost every significant invention that makes modern life possible was invented by whites), but I don't hate everyone else.

[Joshua01]

I do :)
Just because one may have a high opinion of their own people doesn't mean they hate everyone else. I acknowledge that whites are the primary reason we have modern society (almost every significant invention that makes modern life possible was invented by whites), but I don't hate everyone else.

[Horn]

but I don't hate everyone else.

Franks enjoys the taste of nanobots in the morning.

Que Robert Duvall clip here.

[crimethink]

seems odd for someone who hates some peoples to be concerned about them decreasing in numbers.


Is this directed at me personally, or all "racists"?

No, I don't care about Turd World numbers going down...in fact, I'd love to see them drop by billions. But, neither do I relish that happening by misery, such as mass starvation.




And the world currently over supply's food. Big agriculture is not about solving hunger but about controlling food supply. To do that they need to destroy other methods of food supply such as individual farming.

Corporate-owned agriculture is a completely separate issue from pesticide-ridden, petroleum-driven industrial agriculture. When the population began to skyrocket last century, these modern "farms" measured in square miles didn't exist. They were still human-sized farms, like my family's. Yet they relied on pesticides and diesel to produce never-before-seen yields.

But yes, corporate-owned agriculture is about control.

[crimethink]

The sooner we stop using enormous amounts of pesticides the better. We are poisoning our planet. We are poisoning ourselves. Pesticides will still have a place in agriculture but they should be cut way back. I don't see anything wrong with increasing farm workers numbers. Put all the ass-sitters to work or let them starve. Fine choice I think. As far as human population, I believe the use of antibiotics is the main contributing factor to population overgrowth. Pesticides have helped not doubt, especially in areas where malaria and other tropical diseases are endemic.

In an ideal world, artificial chemical pesticides could be eliminated. And without simply shifting to another technology, which may prove to be even more deadly: genetic engineering.

However, crop yields drop precipitously without pesticides. Organic or biodynamic methods can counterbalance that, but only with massive increase in farm labor. Already, there is great difficulty in securing farm labor at wages offered (hence, the Latino invasion of America). This is why I suggest a billion-strong slave population would be needed. I'm not advocating slavery, just musing on a "solution."

As for antibiotics (and other methods of White man's medicine), those have kept alive more of the mouths to feed. But the pesticides and petroleum have kept them fed. Penicillin was not used en masse in the Third World until well after World War II. DDT, for example, was ramped up at the end of World War II. The McKeown Thesis will be of interest to those who want to investigate this topic further. Additionally, antibiotics play a relatively minor role compared to something like smallpox vaccination.

[crimethink]

another eye opener... population growth in the industrialized world vs developing world. the antibiotic boom along with humanitarian aid (credit) made it happen

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Civ6Ec_J7ms/UnP8uDl4L1I/AAAAAAAAIJA/Iph4JI9NJro/s1600/world+population+graph.jpg

Yes, the peoples that made massive population growth possible are being swamped by peoples who have continued to live in squalor - and in some cases, still in the Stone Age. Guess where it ends, when the driving force disappears?

[crimethink]

Just because one may have a high opinion of their own people doesn't mean they hate everyone else. I acknowledge that whites are the primary reason we have modern society (almost every significant invention that makes modern life possible was invented by whites), but I don't hate everyone else.

The leftist mind "thinks" this way. In the same way, if you love unborn babies you "hate women."