Pushing the 'you won't own a car in the future' meme

[midnight rambler]

Sure. Everyone will be living in the shities, and in only 13 years.

https://reneweconomy.com.au/death-spiral-for-cars-by-2030-you-probably-wont-own-one-93626/

[palani]

But .... you don't own your car NOW!

[midnight rambler]

But .... you don't own your car NOW!

Yeah, but how many people are aware of the fact that the state ultimately owns *their* automobile?

[palani]

how many people are aware of the fact that the state ultimately owns *their* automobile?
Absolutely none. For if they were smart enough to figure out that they did not have the status to own anything at all then they would be smart enough to sidestep the issue and it would not be an issue.

This issue is not ownership of an automobile. The issue is ownership of anything at'all. Better to start with the simple stuff before progressing to the more complicated.

The simple stuff begins "Do I have the right to own my own body?"

[ximmy]

Jerry brown helping out...

Despite tax collection increasing by 50 percent in the last 9 years, California’s public pension insolvency is forcing Gov. Jerry Brown to propose a dangerously unpopular 42 percent increase in gasoline taxes and a 141 percent (https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/pubs/brochures/fast_facts/ffvr34) increase in vehicle registration fees. Breitbart News reported (http://www.breitbart.com/california/2017/01/12/gov-brown-california-faces-first-deficit-since-2012/) on January 9 that Gov. Brown announced that for the first time since 2012, California’s $122.8 billion General Fund Budget is in deficit by $1.6 billion. Despite a near bankruptcy during the financial crisis, California’s tax revenues have increased by about $43 billion (http://kfiam640.iheart.com/onair/john-and-ken-37487/browns-plan-to-increase-gas-and-15465089/) in the last 9 years. Brown on Monday only suggested relatively painless spending reductions to close the budget gap. He was very careful to not suggest highly controversial increases in gasoline tax or vehicle fees.

Gov. Brown signs bill raising gas tax and vehicle fees by $5.2 billion annuallyhttp://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-gas-tax-signing-20170428-story.html

[cheka.]

one of the lovely thinktanks is helping push this agenda

The report, by RethinkX, an independent think tank that focuses on technology-driven disruption and its implications across society, says this stunning and radical will be driven entirely by economics, and will overcome the current desire for individual car ownership, starting first in the big cities and then spreading to the suburbs and regional areas.

This disruption will have enormous implications across the transportation and oil industries, decimating entire portions of their value chains, causing oil demand and prices to plummet, and destroying trillions of dollars in investor value, not to mention the value of used cars.

At the same time it will create trillions of dollars in new business opportunities, consumer surplus and GDP growth.

Lead consultant and co-author Tony Seba, who specialises in disruptive technologies. His early forecasts for the enormous uptake of solar where considered crazy, but were proved right, and he has since said that new technologies will make coal, oil and gas all but redundant by 2030).

He says while the report focuses on the US, the forecasts are valid for Australia too, because the transportation industry is global. And he warns that the car you buy now may well be your last.

“This is a global technology disruption. So yes, this applies to Australia,” Seba tells RenewEconomy. “And this is going to happen despite governments, not because of governments.

“Furthermore, the disruption will start in cities with high population density and high real estate prices – think Sydney and Melbourne then Perth, Brisbane and Adelaide – and quickly radiate out to the suburbs, the smaller cities, and then rural areas.”

Indeed, there are some people who are starting to anticipate this change, considering Australian-based business models and even local manufacturing, such as those revealed on Monday by Michael Molitor, the head of a new company called A2EmCo.

Seba does not say that individual car ownership will completely disappear. By 2030, 40 per cent of cars will still be privately owned, but they will only account for 5 per cent of kilometres traveled.

Autonomous cars will be used 10 times more than internal combustion vehicles were, they will last longer – maybe one million miles (1.6 million km) – and the savings will inject an additional $1US trillion into the pockets of Americans by 2030.

Seba admits that his forecasts are hard to digest. But what he sees in the transition to autonomous EVs from privately owned petrol cars is the same he has seen for all other major transitions: what he calls the 10x opportunity cost.

It happened with the printing press, it happened with the first Model T – it cost the same as a carriage and two horses, but offered 10x the horsepower.

“Every time we have had a ten x change in technology, we had a disruption. This is going to be no different.”

And that change, he says, will happen on day one of level 5 autonomous EVs obtaining regulatory approval. “Basically, the day that autonomous vehicles are regulatory accepted, transport-as-a-service will be 10 cheaper than cost of new vehicles,” he says. And four times cheaper than the cost of already owned vehicles.

Why is this? Because everything will be cheaper.

Like his predictions on the rise of solar, and the sudden decline of fossil fuels, Seba’s calculations are driven by simple economics. Within few years, the upfront costs of AEVs will match those of petrol cars. But the depreciation costs will be minimal, because the cars, owned by fleets, will “last a lifetime”.

Maintenance costs will be significantly lower – thanks to 20 moving parts in the powertrain compared to 2,000 for petrol cars – and the miles travelled significantly higher; they will be doing 1.6 million km by 2030, more than five times more than petrol cars.

[Norweger]

Can't be having people traveling without being properly monitored in the New World Order.

[Glass]

Cultural Marxism

“This is a global technology disruption.

inner cities here are already car unfriendly. It's very difficult and time consuming moving through the CBD here.

As for alternatives to cars, we already have sizable rail networks. Electrically powered. People have an option to use them instead of cars, or cycling to a lesser extent. So yes its not about being Green, it's about being Red.

As for Uber, the only reason for Uber to exist is to destroy existing Taxi industries. They are able to do it because they have billions in investor funds to burn through while they wipe out the competition. People (being idiots) think it's a good thing, until it isn't. That will be when there are no Taxis left and clearly Uber drivers are also idiots because Uber's stated goal is to do away with Drivers.

So what we need is Oligarch Policy Disruption.

[crimethink]

Cultural Marxism


inner cities here are already car unfriendly. It's very difficult and time consuming moving through the CBD here.

As for alternatives to cars, we already have sizable rail networks. Electrically powered. People have an option to use them instead of cars, or cycling to a lesser extent. So yes its not about being Green, it's about being Red.

As for Uber, the only reason for Uber to exist is to destroy existing Taxi industries. They are able to do it because they have billions in investor funds to burn through while they wipe out the competition. People (being idiots) think it's a good thing, until it isn't. That will be when there are no Taxis left and clearly Uber drivers are also idiots because Uber's stated goal is to do away with Drivers.

So what we need is Oligarch Policy Disruption.

That may be true, but I've never had a "pleasant" taxi experience. Run by a Mafia and staffed with Niggers and other Turd Worlders. Uber may be out for control, but at least most of their drivers are pleasant, and, you don't have to pay exorbitant amounts to be placed at risk, in filth.

[old steel]

Muscle cars too?

[Glass]

That may be true, but I've never had a "pleasant" taxi experience. Run by a Mafia and staffed with Niggers and other Turd Worlders. Uber may be out for control, but at least most of their drivers are pleasant, and, you don't have to pay exorbitant amounts to be placed at risk, in filth.

Not saying it isn't a racket. And one racket being swapped for another. Just saying the end game is that none of the plebs will be riding in cars, human driven or self driven when this is over. And the plebs continue to contribute to their own demise. Like lemmings, or sheep. Doesn't matter which likeness you prefer.

Driving a car is an unskilled task, so you're only going to get some types at the wheel. And I'm going by government standards not mine or yours.

[Glass]

Muscle cars too?

I'm still waiting for my George Jetson car. We seem to be sticking with wheels for the foreseeable future.

[crimethink]

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