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singular_me
17th May 2017, 11:29 AM
that everything in the Universe obeys the Natural Law of the Torus/Vortex , from a sub atomic particle to a galaxy, the Torus is the universal template was already known 4000 years ago and Living Geometry established this without a doubt. The Universe is itself a giant Torus with the sparkle of Life at its core.

The big bounce theory, now the new heresy, is much closer to the truth. But further we can also see why not teaching sacred geometry has long-term consequences impacting all sciences, biology included.

over 9,000 scientists establish inflation theory as a fact is laughable.

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Hawking Pens Angry Letter about How the Universe Began
may 12 2017
Stephen Hawking and 32 of his fellow scientists have written an angry letter responding to a recent Scientific American article about how the universe began. In it, they declare their “categorical disagreement” with several of the statements made, and explain why the theory of inflation is still one of the best models for the origin of the cosmos.

The article in question was published in February. Titled “Pop Goes the Universe,” physicists Anna Ijjas, Paul J. Steinhardt, Abraham Loeb examine the latest measurements from the European Space Agency relating to cosmic microwave background (CMB)............

.................... The three physicists argue that since the 2013 map was produced, more precise data has been gathered. And this data, they say, adds more evidence to the argument that the Big Bang and inflation do not adequately explain how the universe started. “Yet even now the cosmology community has not taken a cold, honest look at the big bang inflationary theory or paid significant attention to critics who question whether inflation happened,” they say.

Instead, they claim the idea of a “big bounce” is a more likely scenario. In this theory, the universe works on a cyclical basis of expansion and contraction. At the moment, it is expanding. However, when it runs out of energy (or whatever happens to stop its expansion), it will start contracting. Eventually, it will get to the point where it is so small it starts expanding again.

https://transitionculture.org/wp-content/uploads/WEB_Still_Galaxy_02.jpg

Given all these problems, the prospect that inflation did not occur deserves serious consideration,” they write. “Today we are fortunate to have sharp, fundamental questions imposed on us by observations. The fact that our leading ideas have not worked out is a historic opportunity for a theoretical breakthrough. Instead of closing the book on the early universe, we should recognize that cosmology is wide open.”

Categorical disagreement

Responding to the article, 33 scientists, including Hawking, have written a letter of response to Scientific American in which they dismantle the arguments made by Ijjas, Steinhardt and Loeb.

In the letter, they say there is “no disputing” the fact that inflation is the dominant theory when it comes to cosmology. They point out that there are over 14,000 scientific papers by over 9,000 scientists relating to inflation: “By claiming that inflationary cosmology lies outside the scientific method, IS&L [the authors of the earlier article] are dismissing the research of not only all the authors of this letter but also that of a substantial contingent of the scientific community,” they write. “Moreover, as the work of several major, international collaborations has made clear, inflation is not only testable, but it has been subjected to a significant number of tests and so far has passed every one.”

They say there are many models of inflation and no one believes they are all correct. Instead, the theory is something of a work in progress, where scientists are working to find one that fits all the experiments and observations...................

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Neuro
17th May 2017, 04:51 PM
I like the Torus/Vortex model/theory. It makes perfect sense!

Neuro
17th May 2017, 05:16 PM
This is a quasar, the predecessor to a galaxy or the birth of a galaxy, viewed from the large array radio telescope...

http://www.brandeis.edu/now/2015/february/images/NGC4261C.JPG

Hawkins et al together with most cosmologists, astronomers and astrophysicists says that these are jets of plasma pulled in by a black hole in the center of the quasar, but if that is the case, there would never be a galaxy, it would simply be swallowed up by the black hole. Instead I would say the black hole only exist in Hawkins fantasy, or perhaps Hawkins is just a fantasy, keeping the others in line. They are of course also kept in line with promise of Tenure, research grants, and their superiors refusing any mention of the more realistic alternative.

These are charged plasma particles being pulled into a magnetic vortex, where they combine to form atoms, and later stars and planets flung out perpendicular to the rotation of the vortex. In themselves smaller vortices. You don't need unobservable dark matter/energy and black holes to explain this reality, while according to Hawkins model it consists of 99% of universe!

Stephen Hawkins is the biggest fraud of the Universe!

Glass
17th May 2017, 05:17 PM
They still just philosophers, coming up with Theories. They can create all the CGI they like to display their theoretical models, but they can't prove any of it. At best they can extrapolate from some other theory or model or observation of something else. It doesn't translate to fact or proof.

Without proof, they can't demand any one let alone every one must subscribe to belief in their ideas. So then it becomes a slanging match and a religion. Accompanied by all the usual threats, intimidations and ridicules.

Neuro, you make an excellent point. There are so many paradoxes in their theories that most of it doesn't wash, but we are required to simply accept those anomalies and ignore the inconsistencies of logic. "the Science is settled". If you say this with authority most people will defer.

Neuro
17th May 2017, 05:31 PM
Unfortunately Glass, most people can't think for themselves, thus they are subject to be abused by authorities and 'experts', like Hawkins.

crimethink
17th May 2017, 08:28 PM
If Hawking wasn't crippled, he wouldn't receive a quarter of the attention he does. He's a poster boy of the "we can be anything we want to be" crowd. As such, he is a fake "christ" for the left: "the Prophet has spoken (again)."

Neuro
17th May 2017, 10:33 PM
If Hawking wasn't crippled, he wouldn't receive a quarter of the attention he does. He's a poster boy of the "we can be anything we want to be" crowd. As such, he is a fake "christ" for the left: "the Prophet has spoken (again)."

Further he is supposed to be dead as long as I can remember, since 35 years or so. I suspect he is actually, but whenever there is a so-called scientific debacle (((they))) roll him out to rebuke those who challenge the status quo!

cheka.
17th May 2017, 10:37 PM
honey badger don't give a shit


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg

osoab
18th May 2017, 02:15 AM
Hawking "penned" nothing.

EE_
18th May 2017, 06:22 AM
I'd like to see someone take Hawking for a mountain stroll

https://media.giphy.com/media/12ImOfCvWZcfZe/giphy.gif

Horn
18th May 2017, 07:35 AM
thing is, different theories do not fit in with state operated public schooling programs.

religions aren't taught there.

JohnQPublic
18th May 2017, 11:23 AM
Hawking is upset that a alternate bullshit theory challenges his favored bullshit theory.

Horn
18th May 2017, 02:36 PM
Hawking is upset that a alternate bullshit theory challenges his favored bullshit theory.

Oh, here we go, the voice of bullshit authority has intervened... ;)

StreetsOfGold
18th May 2017, 02:37 PM
Hawking "penned" nothing.

Exactly correct, Hawkins died YEARS AGO!! The carcass in the chair is just that, a mouthpiece for THEM to spin wild VAIN science fiction tales.
Not ONE IOTA of which is true and yet, here we have some actually discussing what THEY said though this computerized voice as "real"
That itself is UNREAL (to me)
You people need to WTFU

singular_me
18th May 2017, 03:56 PM
Stephen Hawkins is the biggest fraud of the Universe!

based on what we know that is tangible, yes I concur

how ridiculous, he can be debunked by any smart high school students while he makes make millions to spread lies...

osoab
18th May 2017, 04:52 PM
based on what we know that is tangible, yes I concur

how ridiculous, he can be debunked by any smart high school student while he makes make millions to spread lies...

He isn't making millions.

crimethink
18th May 2017, 04:57 PM
He isn't making millions.

https://www.inverse.com/article/24541-why-is-stephen-hawking-rich

http://www.therichest.com/celebnetworth/celebrity-business/richest-scientist/stephen-hawking-net-worth/

Royalties, prizes for "science," and other income have given him a net worth of $20 million.

osoab
18th May 2017, 05:00 PM
https://www.inverse.com/article/24541-why-is-stephen-hawking-rich

http://www.therichest.com/celebnetworth/celebrity-business/richest-scientist/stephen-hawking-net-worth/

Royalties from books, prizes for "science," and other income have given him a net worth of $20 million.

He isn't spending it at the bare minimum.

This guy has to be the longest living invalid on record.
He has shown up Christopher Reeves ten fold.

crimethink
18th May 2017, 05:02 PM
He isn't spending it at the bare minimum.

This guy has to be the longest living invalid on record.
He has shown up Christopher Reeves ten fold.

All that cash has kept him alive. I imagine he'd be far richer if he didn't need to spend millions due to his disability.

Little folks with similar disabilities would die by 60 due to the effects of poor health care.

Neuro
20th May 2017, 07:57 AM
Now he changed his GREAT mind again. Apparently we don't have a thousand years to find a new planet to live on, which he said 6 months ago. Now we have a hundred only...

Hawking says humanity has 100, not 1,000, years to find new planet to live on https://www.rt.com/viral/389034-hawking-mankind-new-planet/

Are your calculations correct this time Dr Hawking?

Neuro
20th May 2017, 08:06 AM
All that cash has kept him alive. I imagine he'd be far richer if he didn't need to spend millions due to his disability.

Little folks with similar disabilities would die by 60 due to the effects of poor health care.

He is the super genius that tells us how everything is, that is what kept "him" alive.

Just like the super terrorist Bin Laden was kept alive for 10 years after his death, because the super terrorist was necessary to keep us all afraid.

Now super-exposer of corrupt government Julian Assange is kept alive, because they murdered him, and he can keep exposing some minor true things everyone knows about, and then throw in some patently false things to disinformation us about things that are important.

They are the Emanuel Goldsteins of our times!

osoab
20th May 2017, 02:36 PM
Now he changed his GREAT mind again. Apparently we don't have a thousand years to find a new planet to live on, which he said 6 months ago. Now we have a hundred only...

Hawking says humanity has 100, not 1,000, years to find new planet to live on https://www.rt.com/viral/389034-hawking-mankind-new-planet/

Are your calculations correct this time Dr Hawking?

In 6 weeks it will be 10 years.

crimethink
20th May 2017, 04:17 PM
Now he changed his GREAT mind again. Apparently we don't have a thousand years to find a new planet to live on, which he said 6 months ago. Now we have a hundred only...

Hawking says humanity has 100, not 1,000, years to find new planet to live on https://www.rt.com/viral/389034-hawking-mankind-new-planet/

Are your calculations correct this time Dr Hawking?

Pope Albert I Gore said we'd all be living on Waterworld by now. :D

singular_me
25th May 2017, 12:08 PM
amid the world turmoil enjoy the beauty.... of the mathematical perfection of Nature... hawking will never talk about the fibonacci sequence... why?

The helical model - our Galaxy is a vortex

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4V-ooITrws