Is There A Coup Attempt Underway In America?

[Ares]

Personally, I’m horrified by the fact that Goldman Sachs goons are in total control of the Trump administration’s economic policy. I’m also horrified that our new President’s first overseas trip will be to the terrorist state of Saudi Arabia, a autocratic, brutal monarchy with undeniable ties to 9/11. I’m likewise disgusted by Attorney General Jefferson Sessions’ oppressive and uncivilized relaunch of the misguided and disastrous “war on drugs.” Finally, I’m very troubled by the fact Mike Flynn attempted to disrupt a military operation using Syrian Kurds to rout ISIS in Raqqa because Turkey didn’t like it, given he was working as a paid agent of Turkey months earlier and never disclosed it.

There are a plethora of things to be deeply concerned about when it comes to Trump, yet the coup attempt against him being launched by elements of the deep state, corporate media and Hillary dead-ender Democrats is more concerning still. It’s obvious what’s happening right now is not a sincere attempt to hold a President accountable, or fight him on policy or personnel choices. Rather, this all seems to be a very deliberate and premeditated attempt to remove him from office.

What’s so troubling about what I just wrote is not so much that I think it, but that it’s becoming accepted truth by a growing number of mainstream Americans. For example, can you believe CNBC actually published a post with the following title?

https://libertyblitzkrieg.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Screen-Shot-2017-05-18-at-9.11.05-AM-1024x720.jpg

Here are a few excerpts from the piece:

There is, indeed, a bombshell of a story coming out of the news that President Donald Trump revealed sensitive information during his White House meeting with Russian officials last week. But it’s not that President Trump committed any crime. The really alarming news is that the duly-elected President of the United States appears to be the target of a political coup.

First, let’s be clear: President Trump has been sloppy, arrogant, and just plain misguided plenty of times during his short tenure in office — including the way he handled the firing of FBI Director James Comey and the hiring and firing of National Security Adviser Michael Flynn. And if he did unnecessarily compromise the source of the sensitive information he shared with the Russians, shame on him.

But a president cannot be removed from office for arrogance and sloppiness…

Here’s the kicker: None of this is actually working where it counts. Again, we have not one piece of evidence of any impeachable act. And it’s not even truly working in the polls. President Trump’s approval ratings may be lower than any modern president this early in his tenure, but they’re still higher than they were throughout the election. If anything, these constant attacks coming from this obviously angry and potentially illegal place are only strengthening the resolve of Trump’s base of supporters. They elected a guy they believed was truly the enemy of the established political class. And right on cue, the established political class is stopping at nothing to prove them right.

For all the things President Trump has said that have dragged down the level of our American political discourse, this sustained takedown effort is worse. And it’s not clear how this is going to end. Unlike President Trump, the leakers remain anonymous and thus unaccountable. They can presumably go on forever.

And President Trump doesn’t seem like he’s going to stop fighting back or irritating and threatening his political opponents.

But don’t fool yourself into thinking this is OK or even tolerable. The bottom line is that we have some very powerful people in Washington who really don’t like how democracy played out this time around and what they do to attack it next isn’t going to be any better than what they’re doing now.

Luckily the American people remain wisely circumspect about all of this. President Trump’s polls aside, the voters are still giving him a decent shot to govern. And unaccountable people in Washington shouldn’t be trying to make that decision for us.
Once again, I want to remind you the above was published at CNBC. Sure it’s a vapid Wall Street oligarch-worshipping rag, but it’s still pretty mainstream.

Moreover, it’s not just CNBC writers and obscure bloggers such as myself who are coming to these sorts of conclusions.

For example, listen closely to what Dennis Kucinich had to say on the topic in a recent interview.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9wWIhwKy4c

link to video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9wWIhwKy4c

I agree with Dennis completely, and another troubling aspect of all this is that the hysteria incessantly being driven by the corporate press in its attempt to destroy Trump is distracting attention away from genuine scandals. For example, yesterday’s McClatchy story on Mike Flynn’s undisclosed work as a agent of Turkey, and how that may have influenced his foreign policy recommendations appears to be a very real and extremely concerning scandal. Yet it gets buried in the hyperbole and hysteria, and millions of people end up tuning everything out.

The road we’re headed down is unhealthy, counterproductive and extremely dangerous. As is typically the case, you can thank the corporate press.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-18/there-coup-attempt-underway-america

[crimethink]

LOL, "coup attempt."


"They" gave us the "choice" of bankster tool Hillary Clinton and bankster tool Donald Trump. "They" couldn't - and can't - lose. Sure, Trump has turned out to have a loose mouth that embarrasses "them," so there is the possibility "they" will simply replace him with "soft-spoken" tool Mike Pence.

The Swamp Creatures are fully in control.

[cheka.]

stay positive - the anti red/blue grew from ron paul to trump taking the white house. need to keep the momentum, regardless of what chump does/doesn't do

[crimethink]

For example, listen closely to what Dennis Kucinich had to say on the topic in a recent interview.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9wWIhwKy4c

link to video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9wWIhwKy4c

I agree with Dennis completely, and another troubling aspect of all this is that the hysteria incessantly being driven by the corporate press in its attempt to destroy Trump is distracting attention away from genuine scandals. For example, yesterday’s McClatchy story on Mike Flynn’s undisclosed work as a agent of Turkey, and how that may have influenced his foreign policy recommendations appears to be a very real and extremely concerning scandal. Yet it gets buried in the hyperbole and hysteria, and millions of people end up tuning everything out.

Kucinich just lost most of his credibility with me.

Trump is a liar and a fraud. Period. End of story.

If attacking Trump for his lies and scheming is "wrong," then attacking Nixon for his lies and scheming was wrong. But it wasn't.

Did Trump and his goons, including Flynn, lie about his associations with Russians/"Russians" and other entities? Yes. Is that actionable? Yes. Bill Clinton was impeached for lying about a blowjob. Trump and his goons are lying about far more serious matters, in addition to their countless lies during the campaign.

Trump can be impeached for "high crimes and misdemeanors," per the Will of the Congress. Congress gets to decide what such a "misdemeanor" is. Based on precedence, with Nixon and Clinton, Trump surely qualifies.

If Trump loved America and was working for America, I wouldn't care if he won the election with merely 10% of the voters - I would support him unconditionally. But he lied with numerous campaign promises of high importance, including things that will destroy America, like DACA. He has not only not attempted to "drain the swamp" - he has selected dozens of Swamp Creatures for his cabinet and "advisors." He even cavorts with Creature from the Black Lagoon Kissinger routinely. He had no "mandate" in November, as most of the American People did not vote for him (and neither did a majority vote for Her Majesty, either - the majority didn't or couldn't vote). And even if he did, he remains subject to both impeachment and removal from office, and the Twenty-fifth Amendment. His commentary is becoming more and more psychotic, like the "tapes" comments recently. If his behavior continues, a case will become extant that he is no longer fit for the Office of President, and Pence, and a majority of his own hand-picked cabinet members, can lawfully remove him. There is nothing "illegal" about getting rid of an unfit President.

[crimethink]

stay positive - the anti red/blue grew from ron paul to trump taking the white house. need to keep the momentum, regardless of what chump does/doesn't do

What "momentum"? The only thing that can "fix" Washington is a nuclear bomb.

This "Democrat vs Republican" shit is worse than a waste of time.

[Ares]

Kucinich just lost most of his credibility with me.

Trump is a liar and a fraud. Period. End of story.

If attacking Trump for his lies and scheming is "wrong," then attacking Nixon for his lies and scheming was wrong. But it wasn't.

Did Trump and his goons, including Flynn, lie about his associations with Russians/"Russians" and other entities? Yes. Is that actionable? Yes. Bill Clinton was impeached for lying about a blowjob. Trump and his goons are lying about far more serious matters, in addition to their countless lies during the campaign.

Trump can be impeached for "high crimes and misdemeanors," per the Will of the Congress. Congress gets to decide what such a "misdemeanor" is. Based on precedence, with Nixon and Clinton, Trump surely qualifies.

If Trump loved America and was working for America, I wouldn't care if he won the election with merely 10% of the voters - I would support him unconditionally. But he lied with numerous campaign promises of high importance, including things that will destroy America, like DACA. He has not only not attempted to "drain the swamp" - he has selected dozens of Swamp Creatures for his cabinet and "advisors." He even cavorts with Creature from the Black Lagoon Kissinger routinely. He had no "mandate" in November, as most of the American People did not vote for him (and neither did a majority vote for Her Majesty, either - the majority didn't or couldn't vote). And even if he did, he remains subject to both impeachment and removal from office, and the Twenty-fifth Amendment. His commentary is becoming more and more psychotic, like the "tapes" comments recently. If his behavior continues, a case will become extant that he is no longer fit for the Office of President, and Pence, and a majority of his own hand-picked cabinet members, can lawfully remove him. There is nothing "illegal" about getting rid of an unfit President.

Trump is a man, many have occupied the white house. But you failed to miss the point of this entire article.

Base line is that the people voted, and the deep state just gave the American people the middle finger and said fuck you. We'll do what we want, and while we're at it, we'll get your guy thrown out of office and put in place a true zealot (Pence).

[crimethink]

Trump is a man, many have occupied the white house. But you failed to miss the point of this entire article.

Base line is that the people voted, and the deep state just gave the American people the middle finger and said fuck you. We'll do what we want, and while we're at it, we'll get your guy thrown out of office and put in place a true zealot (Pence).

I reject this "Deep State vs. Trump" shit as invalid. NO ONE runs for President, and gets massive media coverage, without the full approval of the real rulers of the planet. The alleged components of the so-called "Deep State" - which doesn't actually exist* - answer to the same Elders of Zion and "illuminated" Goyim as does Trump (and Clinton). Kissinger met with Trump before and after the election. It's clear who Trump is loyal to.

There are two possibilities about all this:

1) it's ALL bullshit, political theater, intended to confuse - and entertain, like the WWE - the boobs. Confusion is of the Devil - his favorite game - and the Devil is in charge of this world. Much of the circus Trump portrays smacks of a WWE Wrestlemania event.
2) Trump was expected to "perform" better, and while he is loyal to the Master Plan, his loose mouth (and Twitter) has become an embarrassment, and it's being considered that "soft-spoken" Pence would serve "their" aims better.

The idea "the People" chose Trump is beyond laughable. Trump has never been independent. He is a product of New York City, and all that is bad and evil about that city. Trump portrayed an image that millions swallowed, and enough of them (apparently) voted in a particular fashion to give him sufficient electoral votes, for the Electoral College to affirm his selection.


* I refer to the alleged "Deep State" that supposedly operates autonomously of the rest of the Federal regime, composed primarily of the "intelligence community." In fact, we know the "intelligence community" of the various "world community of nations" all work together (Five Eyes, Fourteen Eyes, and even Forty-one Eyes, with CIA and Mossad effectively being the same agency), in service to the Elders of Zion, especially the Rothschild Crime Syndicate. None of the "intelligence community" leadership is opposed to Trump, since they take orders from the same unseen rulers. In fact, the only patriots within the "intelligence community" are those who leak Truth to the peoples of America and the world. The rest of them are illuminated and/or true-believing lower-level cult members, ready to die for their "cause."

[Ares]

I reject this "Deep State vs. Trump" shit as invalid. NO ONE runs for President, and gets massive media coverage, without the full approval of the real rulers of the planet. The alleged components of the so-called "Deep State" - which doesn't actually exist* - answer to the same Elders of Zion and "illuminated" Goyim as does Trump (and Clinton). Kissinger met with Trump before and after the election. It's clear who Trump is loyal to.

To a point you are correct. But Trump is a loose cannon and someone they can't fully control like Obama, Bush, Clinton etc. He is erratic and unpredictable, not someone they can fully trust as his allegiance could change in a moment.


There are two possibilities about all this:

1) it's ALL bullshit, political theater, intended to confuse - and entertain, like the WWE - the boobs. Confusion is of the Devil - his favorite game - and the Devil is in charge of this world. Much of the circus Trump portrays smacks of a WWE Wrestlemania event.
2) Trump was expected to "perform" better, and while he is loyal to the Master Plan, his loose mouth (and Twitter) has become an embarrassment, and it's being considered that "soft-spoken" Pence would serve "their" aims better.

True


The idea "the People" chose Trump is beyond laughable. Trump has never been independent. He is a product of New York City, and all that is bad and evil about that city. Trump portrayed an image that millions swallowed, and enough of them (apparently) voted in a particular fashion to give him sufficient electoral votes, for the Electoral College to affirm his selection.

Like it or not, "the people" did choose Trump. They threw everything at him, both parties included. Paul Ryan and Hillary both had the same donor (((Soros))). They did not want him to win, and are now trying to get him removed. His own party doesn't even back him half the time, can you imagine this happening to a true establishment Dipshitorcrat or a Retadican? Think this would happen if Her Majesty or Jeb! had been elected? I don't think so.



* I refer to the alleged "Deep State" that supposedly operates autonomously of the rest of the Federal regime, composed primarily of the "intelligence community." In fact, we know the "intelligence community" of the various "world community of nations" all work together (Five Eyes, Fourteen Eyes, and even Forty-one Eyes, with CIA and Mossad effectively being the same agency), in service to the Elders of Zion, especially the Rothschild Crime Syndicate. None of the "intelligence community" leadership is opposed to Trump, since they take orders from the same unseen rulers. In fact, the only patriots within the "intelligence community" are those who leak Truth to the peoples of America and the world. The rest of them are illuminated and/or true-believing lower-level cult members, ready to die for their "cause."

If enough of us rise up, maybe we can get them to die for their cause. One can hope.

[Cebu_4_2]

I reject this "Deep State vs. Trump" shit as invalid. NO ONE runs for President, and gets massive media coverage, without the full approval of the real rulers of the planet. The alleged components of the so-called "Deep State" - which doesn't actually exist* - answer to the same Elders of Zion and "illuminated" Goyim as does Trump (and Clinton). Kissinger met with Trump before and after the election. It's clear who Trump is loyal to.

There are two possibilities about all this:

1) it's ALL bullshit, political theater, intended to confuse - and entertain, like the WWE - the boobs. Confusion is of the Devil - his favorite game - and the Devil is in charge of this world. Much of the circus Trump portrays smacks of a WWE Wrestlemania event.
2) Trump was expected to "perform" better, and while he is loyal to the Master Plan, his loose mouth (and Twitter) has become an embarrassment, and it's being considered that "soft-spoken" Pence would serve "their" aims better.

The idea "the People" chose Trump is beyond laughable. Trump has never been independent. He is a product of New York City, and all that is bad and evil about that city. Trump portrayed an image that millions swallowed, and enough of them (apparently) voted in a particular fashion to give him sufficient electoral votes, for the Electoral College to affirm his selection.


* I refer to the alleged "Deep State" that supposedly operates autonomously of the rest of the Federal regime, composed primarily of the "intelligence community." In fact, we know the "intelligence community" of the various "world community of nations" all work together (Five Eyes, Fourteen Eyes, and even Forty-one Eyes, with CIA and Mossad effectively being the same agency), in service to the Elders of Zion, especially the Rothschild Crime Syndicate. None of the "intelligence community" leadership is opposed to Trump, since they take orders from the same unseen rulers. In fact, the only patriots within the "intelligence community" are those who leak Truth to the peoples of America and the world. The rest of them are illuminated and/or true-believing lower-level cult members, ready to die for their "cause."

You are the biggest twat on this forum, cant you just take your meds and fuck your neighbor?

[crimethink]

But Trump is a loose cannon and someone they can't fully control like Obama, Bush, Clinton etc. He is erratic and unpredictable, not someone they can fully trust as his allegiance could change in a moment.


Regent Jared Kushner is the real power in the Oval Office. Trump does nothing meaningful on his own accord. Twitter posts and loose talk on live TV don't count.




Like it or not, "the people" did choose Trump.


Most of those who did vote for the "R" voted against Clinton, not for Trump.

And again, a minority of the American people voted, and a minority of that voted "for" Trump. And no, I'm not talking the phony "popular vote" figures.




They threw everything at him, both parties included.


Uh, no.

The GOP could have stopped him. They chose not, because they were told to move him forward. Kissinger met with Trump more than once during the election cycle. And there's that pesky "rumor" that Bill Clinton asked him to run in the first place.




Paul Ryan and Hillary both had the same donor (((Soros))).


As does Jared Kushner.




They did not want him to win, and are now trying to get him removed. His own party doesn't even back him half the time, can you imagine this happening to a true establishment Dipshitorcrat or a Retadican? Think this would happen if Her Majesty or Jeb! had been elected? I don't think so.


All political theater.

Why didn't they want him to win? Because he'd lock Hillary up? End DACA? Drain the swamp? Mark China as a currency manipulator?




If enough of us rise up, maybe we can get them to die for their cause. One can hope.

No one is going to do shit. People can't even identify the actual enemy. They allow the real enemy to define their "enemies." "Evil liberals." "Deep State." "RINOs." Focus on the clowns, and ignore the Ringmaster(s).

Trump is part of the spectrum of permissible political "thought." I do not know why intelligent people fail to understand Orwell. Trump is an "Emmanuel Goldstein," a phony "opposition" leader, run by "Big Brother" (the Kosher Babylon System). WHY are people in complete denial of Trump's lifelong nature? WHY are people insistent on refusing to accept he is New York City embodied? WHY do people persist in believing he is their savior?

[crimethink]

You are the biggest twat on this forum, cant you just take your meds and fuck your neighbor?

Sad little "man," you have no substance to your "life," so you must adhere to a Jew York City celebrity to have a semblance of a "life."

[crimethink]

Trump will save America from the banksters!


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f2/Steven_Mnuchin_official_portrait.jpg/479px-Steven_Mnuchin_official_portrait.jpg


It would be funny if not so terribly sad.

[Ares]

Regent Jared Kushner is the real power in the Oval Office. Trump does nothing meaningful on his own accord. Twitter posts and loose talk on live TV don't count.

If that's the case, then it is Ivanka who is the real power in the Oval Office. If Kushner controls Trump, then we know who controls Kushner.


Most of those who did vote for the "R" voted against Clinton, not for Trump.

Well there were the "Never Trump'ers" who were Republican who could not bring themselves to vote for him. Mostly the same warmongers who are now cheering him poking and prodding North Korea.


Uh, no.

The GOP could have stopped him. They chose not, because they were told to move him forward. Kissinger met with Trump more than once during the election cycle. And there's that pesky "rumor" that Bill Clinton asked him to run in the first place.

Umm yeah, they tried but were being met with resistance from "the little people" that they enjoy ruling over. They didn't "choose not too" as you so claim. They were forced to back down or lose seats in the Senate and the Congress. The Retardicans were between a rock and a hard place with Trump running. First they wanted Jeb!, when that fizzled they went and supported Rubio. When he malfunctioned on stage with Chris Christy laughing and making fun of him for doing it, his support fell apart. Then they went to someone they also equally despise but less than Trump, Ted Cruz. When it was clear that Ted was losing they next tried to figure out a way to Ron Paul him at the convention. But what they did to Ron Paul exposed them and people were prepared for it this time. Next you had a subset of electors trying to rally other electors not to vote for Trump.

They literally threw everything they could at him minus assassination to keep him from the oval office. Or do you think they literally spent billions of dollars all for show?





As does Jared Kushner.

A Jew is never too far away from those who wield power.


All political theater.

Why didn't they want him to win? Because he'd lock Hillary up? End DACA? Drain the swamp? Mark China as a currency manipulator?

It very well could be all political theater, but do you know what the benefit of it is? Nothing is getting done which is how it was supposed to be anyway. While they fight amongst themselves (for real or for show) it builds very real resentment and rage at the base. They are providing the rope that sooner or later will be used to hang them all with.



No one is going to do shit. People can't even identify the actual enemy. They allow the real enemy to define their "enemies." "Evil liberals." "Deep State." "RINOs." Focus on the clowns, and ignore the Ringmaster(s).

Trump is part of the spectrum of permissible political "thought." I do not know why intelligent people fail to understand Orwell. Trump is an "Emmanuel Goldstein," a phony "opposition" leader, run by "Big Brother" (the Kosher Babylon System). WHY are people in complete denial of Trump's lifelong nature? WHY are people insistent on refusing to accept he is New York City embodied? WHY do people persist in believing he is their savior?

Those that can identify the enemy are the ones who lead those who cannot. That's always how it has ever been throughout human history. Even during our own break away from England it was only 1/3rd of the population that supported breaking away, the other 1/3rd were loyalist while the remaining didn't care. Not much has changed in over 200 years.

[crimethink]

They didn't "choose not too" as you so claim.... They literally threw everything they could at him minus assassination to keep him from the oval office. Or do you think they literally spent billions of dollars all for show?


Rinsed Penis "threw everything he could" at Trump, so Trump made him White House Chief of Staff.

http://media.salon.com/2014/09/political-money-parties.jpeg-1280x960.jpg


https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-tOHfXsuCi2A/UAR-aWhhiHI/AAAAAAAADds/GEPBcd-ogfU/s1600/roflmfao.jpg




Those that can identify the enemy are the ones who lead those who cannot.

I'll take that as a compliment. It seems I'm one of the few here who can identify the Enemy. hoarder is another, who identified Trump as a Kosher menace from the beginning.

[Joshua01]

Just for the record Fred, I personally don't look at Trump as a savior, although you're constantly posting that I do and I'm some sort of Jews sympathizer, that having a lot to do with the user name I chose here (juvenile in of itself but I digress). Most of us voted for Trump because he was catching shit from both sides of the isle and was not an apparent member of the good old boys club in DC. I still think that but I will admit certain things he's doing and saying aren't exactly was I was hoping for. Bottom line, IMHO given the choice (((they))) gave us in November Trump was a no brainer considering the alternative. The entertainment factor alone has been worth the vote for me but I have NO expectations that Trump will accomplish anything permanent or long term because he won't be (((allowed))) to succeed. (((They'll00) take him down when he goes to far off the reservation. What happens next is a crapshooter. There is no precedence for this scenario in American history
Regent Jared Kushner is the real power in the Oval Office. Trump does nothing meaningful on his own accord. Twitter posts and loose talk on live TV don't count.




Most of those who did vote for the "R" voted against Clinton, not for Trump.

And again, a minority of the American people voted, and a minority of that voted "for" Trump. And no, I'm not talking the phony "popular vote" figures.




Uh, no.

The GOP could have stopped him. They chose not, because they were told to move him forward. Kissinger met with Trump more than once during the election cycle. And there's that pesky "rumor" that Bill Clinton asked him to run in the first place.




As does Jared Kushner.




All political theater.

Why didn't they want him to win? Because he'd lock Hillary up? End DACA? Drain the swamp? Mark China as a currency manipulator?




No one is going to do shit. People can't even identify the actual enemy. They allow the real enemy to define their "enemies." "Evil liberals." "Deep State." "RINOs." Focus on the clowns, and ignore the Ringmaster(s).

Trump is part of the spectrum of permissible political "thought." I do not know why intelligent people fail to understand Orwell. Trump is an "Emmanuel Goldstein," a phony "opposition" leader, run by "Big Brother" (the Kosher Babylon System). WHY are people in complete denial of Trump's lifelong nature? WHY are people insistent on refusing to accept he is New York City embodied? WHY do people persist in believing he is their savior?

[crimethink]

given the choice (((they))) gave us in November Trump was a no brainer considering the alternative.

Yes, supporting Trump requires no brains. :)

Hillary the thesis, Trump the antithesis, and the end of America, the synthesis.

Trump has been friends with the Clintons for decades, and his immediate rescission of his promise to jail the bitch demonstrates that friendship remains.

Trump is not being stopped from succeeding. Trump had no intention of succeeding on the important promises.

Less than a week after the selection:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPK7uStv6zA

[Ares]

Rinsed Penis "threw everything he could" at Trump, so Trump made him White House Chief of Staff.

http://media.salon.com/2014/09/political-money-parties.jpeg-1280x960.jpg


https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-tOHfXsuCi2A/UAR-aWhhiHI/AAAAAAAADds/GEPBcd-ogfU/s1600/roflmfao.jpg

It was Rinsed Penis who was trying to maintain a cohesive GOP amongst all of the infighting within the party. The Freedom caucus was an early supporter of Trump while some came out in opposition to Trump (Paul Ryan) to name one. I believe Trump put him on staff to try and stay within the parties good graces. We see how that's turning out. Can't even Repeal Obamacare without having to shove another piece of shit down our throats.






I'll take that as a compliment. It seems I'm one of the few here who can identify the Enemy. hoarder is another, who identified Trump as a Kosher menace from the beginning.

Most on this forum know who the enemy is, but we are not the general population.

[Joshua01]

I admit, that one has been a head scratcher. I'm still hanging on by a thread that there's a reason he did a 180 on Killery but I have to give you that one as I can't imagine what his endgame would be given his actions on the Clintons. If you're right (and I hope your not) Trump should also be included in the day of the rope but i'm still not bringing my rope out of the closet just yet. I'm curious to see what he does moving forward. As I said, the entertainment factor is priceless, so we do have that anyway ;)
Yes, supporting Trump requires no brains. :)

Hillary the thesis, Trump the antithesis, and the end of America, the synthesis.

Trump has been friends with the Clintons for decades, and his immediate rescission of his promise to jail the bitch demonstrates that friendship remains.

Trump is not being stopped from succeeding. Trump had no intention of succeeding on the important promises.

Less than a week after the selection:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPK7uStv6zA

[crimethink]

I believe Trump put him on staff to try and stay within the parties good graces. We see how that's turning out. Can't even Repeal Obamacare without having to shove another piece of shit down our throats.


Why won't Trump rescind DACA? No one and nothing is stopping him, since it was created by Executive Order.

What will it take for people to accept Trump was not and definitely is not their friend? Even considering Joe Lieberman for FBI Commissar isn't enough for Trump supporters around here. Maybe appointing Hillary Clinton to some important role? Would that be sufficient. I highly doubt it. "He's got a plan."

[Ares]

Why won't Trump rescind DACA? No one and nothing is stopping him, since it was created by Executive Order.

What will it take for people to accept Trump was not and definitely is not their friend? Even considering Joe Lieberman for FBI Commissar isn't enough for Trump supporters around here. Maybe appointing Hillary Clinton to some important role? Would that be sufficient. I highly doubt it. "He's got a plan."

I agree, DACA should of been rescinded the minute after his presidential speech. I don't think he has a plan, and he strikes me as a seat of your pants type of personality.

[Joshua01]

Well, he had better get off his seat and get his fat ass in gear if he's going to hope to accomplish anything, the country is floundering
I agree, DACA should of been rescinded the minute after his presidential speech. I don't think he has a plan, and he strikes me as a seat of your pants type of personality.

[Ares]

Well, he had better get off his seat and get his fat ass in gear if he's going to hope to accomplish anything, the country is floundering

That's just it though. There isn't anything that he or any president for that matter can change. We're already off the cliff we're just waiting for the landing at the bottom. I mostly voted for trump as a "fuck you" to the Republican party for negating my vote for Ron Paul years earlier. I know Trump can't change anything, but I sure do enjoy the entertainment value of watching the Dems have a heart attack everytime he "offends" them.

[Joshua01]

Yeah, that's pretty much it for me too. Fred has taken every hopeful or positive thing posted regarding Trump and beats it over the head with a stick, along with its poster. Do you think he's not a big Trump fanboy? Almost everyone I know voted for Trump as a fuck you to the politicians. Somehow Fred interprets that; as a confirmed Trump voter you'll follow him through the gates of hell. Sometimes its tough to have an objective conversation on the subject when Fred's around
That's just it though. There isn't anything that he or any president for that matter can change. We're already off the cliff we're just waiting for the landing at the bottom. I mostly voted for trump as a "fuck you" to the Republican party for negating my vote for Ron Paul years earlier. I know Trump can't change anything, but I sure do enjoy the entertainment value of watching the Dems have a heart attack everytime he "offends" them.

[Cebu_4_2]

Yeah, that's pretty much it for me too. Fred has taken every hopeful or positive thing posted regarding Trump and beats it over the head with a stick, along with its poster. Do you think he's not a big Trump fanboy? Almost everyone I know voted for Trump as a fuck you to the politicians. Somehow Fred interprets that; as a confirmed Trump voter you'll follow him through the gates of hell. Sometimes its tough to have an objective conversation on the subject


Freds just special.

[midnight rambler]

Chump should put Killery in as director of the FiBbIes.

[Horn]

Trump appears exactly as Obama did when placed in office, just different cheerleaders with real tits.

[Ares]

Chump should put Killery in as director of the FiBbIes.

Will get the same result we have now.... What email server? What violations of national security?

[midnight rambler]

Will get the same result we have now.... What email server? What violations of national security?

Sweet! Nothing like continuity!

[crimethink]

I don't think he has a plan, and he strikes me as a seat of your pants type of personality.

Which is why his "departure" is being considered. He's been a keen businessman all his life, making well-reasoned and very clever decisions daily. No one makes billions by irrational, spontaneous actions and reactions. Now, his age, and the stress of a role he can't handle, is making him an embarrassment to his bosses. Pence was put there in case this happened.

There is no "conspiracy" against Trump. He was rewarded for his lifetime of service to the Elders of Zion, but it was a miscalculation, to let him occupy the Oval Office.

[crimethink]

That's just it though. There isn't anything that he or any president for that matter can change.

But he can. DACA, for one. And he can do much more, if he had the courage to do it. Defy these "judges," for one. What will his opponents do, try to impeach him? They already are.

[crimethink]

Yeah, that's pretty much it for me too. Fred has taken every hopeful or positive thing posted regarding Trump and beats it over the head with a stick, along with its poster. Do you think he's not a big Trump fanboy? Almost everyone I know voted for Trump as a fuck you to the politicians. Somehow Fred interprets that; as a confirmed Trump voter you'll follow him through the gates of hell. Sometimes its tough to have an objective conversation on the subject when Fred's around

Trump supporters (not "voters") are mirror images of Obama (or Clinton) supporters. "Give him a chance." "He has a plan." "He loves us, but it's [Congress/the Democrats/the GOP/etc./etc.] who won't 'let' him succeed."

If Trump aimed to do something, and that effort was, indeed, blocked by other parties, such as funding for the wall, sure, it's not his fault. But repealing DACA? Jailing Clinton? Identifying China as a currency manipulator? ALL of those are at his discretion.

I am intolerant of both lying and stupidity. Trump routinely displays the former. His current supports persist in the latter. Of course I'm going to beat lying and stupidity over the head. Some people need a reality check, and I'm here to provide it. :)

As for "objective conversation," I'm plenty ready for it, when others are actually ready for it.

[Cebu_4_2]

Trump supporters (not "voters") are mirror images of Obama (or Clinton) supporters. "Give him a chance." "He has a plan." "He loves us, but it's [Congress/the Democrats/the GOP/etc./etc.] who won't 'let' him succeed."

If Trump aimed to do something, and that effort was, indeed, blocked by other parties, such as funding for the wall, sure, it's not his fault. But repealing DACA? Jailing Clinton? Identifying China as a currency manipulator? ALL of those are at his discretion.

I am intolerant of both lying and stupidity. Trump routinely displays the former. His current supports persist in the latter. Of course I'm going to beat lying and stupidity over the head. Some people need a reality check, and I'm here to provide it. :)

As for "objective conversation," I'm plenty ready for it, when others are actually ready for it.

You seriously are retarded, why are you even here? You have only 3 cheerleaders liking you. Complete loser on this forum. Shouldn't you go to the other forum or did they ban you there also? Fucking twat.

[crimethink]

You seriously are retarded, why are you even here? You have only 3 cheerleaders liking you. Complete loser on this forum. Shouldn't you go to the other forum or did they ban you there also? Fucking twat.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOJg1uuk95w

[Cebu_4_2]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOJg1uuk95w


I don't have wrinkles...

[Joshua01]

We keep Fred here so we can keep an eye on him. If he's here then he's not off dumbing down other innocent people
You seriously are retarded, why are you even here? You have only 3 cheerleaders liking you. Complete loser on this forum. Shouldn't you go to the other forum or did they ban you there also? Fucking twat.

[7th trump]

Watch fred blow a gasket.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjmJI2q2cSg

[Neuro]

You seriously are retarded, why are you even here? You have only 3 cheerleaders liking you. Complete loser on this forum. Shouldn't you go to the other forum or did they ban you there also? Fucking twat.

Really it isn't a popularity contest. I don't always agree with Fred, but he can rationally argue his case. Trump is a Zionist and a liar, saying those things doesn't necessarily make the person a supporter of Hillary (another Zionist liar).

[Neuro]

Yeah, that's pretty much it for me too. Fred has taken every hopeful or positive thing posted regarding Trump and beats it over the head with a stick, along with its poster. Do you think he's not a big Trump fanboy? Almost everyone I know voted for Trump as a fuck you to the politicians. Somehow Fred interprets that; as a confirmed Trump voter you'll follow him through the gates of hell. Sometimes its tough to have an objective conversation on the subject when Fred's around
You can see him as a reality check! Trump is awful to anything you ever believe in!

[EE_]

Trump supporters (not "voters") are mirror images of Obama (or Clinton) supporters. "Give him a chance." "He has a plan." "He loves us, but it's [Congress/the Democrats/the GOP/etc./etc.] who won't 'let' him succeed."

If Trump aimed to do something, and that effort was, indeed, blocked by other parties, such as funding for the wall, sure, it's not his fault. But repealing DACA? Jailing Clinton? Identifying China as a currency manipulator? ALL of those are at his discretion.

I am intolerant of both lying and stupidity. Trump routinely displays the former. His current supports persist in the latter. Of course I'm going to beat lying and stupidity over the head. Some people need a reality check, and I'm here to provide it. :)

As for "objective conversation," I'm plenty ready for it, when others are actually ready for it.

This isn't working...maybe you would do more to make a difference, if you rent a dump truck and run it through crowds of people?

As just an American, I'll just hope for the best for my/our country. I'm ecstatic Hillary didn't win!

[Neuro]

This isn't working...maybe you would do more to make a difference, if you rent a dump truck and run it through crowds of people?

As just an American, I'll just hope for the best for my/our country. I'm ecstatic Hillary didn't win!
And you are happy Trump delivers on Hillary campaign promises?

[Cebu_4_2]

But he can. DACA, for one. And he can do much more, if he had the courage to do it. Defy these "judges," for one. What will his opponents do, try to impeach him? They already are.


It would all be blocked. He has major leaks in his cabinet that has to be plugged before anything else.

[crimethink]

This isn't working...

Rational arguments never work on cultists.

[crimethink]

It would all be blocked. He has major leaks in his cabinet that has to be plugged before anything else.

Blocked by whom? Are you saying Sessions or Kelly are part of the problem?

[Horn]

A leaking or unfit cabinet would be all the more reason to pour derision on any president.

[Cebu_4_2]

Blocked by whom? Are you saying Sessions or Kelly are part of the problem?


anything he does is somehow to be blocked by some asshat judge in some other entity. Not paying attention again?

[crimethink]

anything he does is somehow to be blocked by some asshat judge in some other entity. Not paying attention again?

DACA ends with the stroke of a pen, same way it was created. Nothing to be "blocked." It was illegal in the first place.

[Cebu_4_2]

DACA ends with the stroke of a pen, same way it was created. Nothing to be "blocked." It was illegal in the first place.


Just like enforcing the border? It was blocked by some asshat in HI