Irrefutable proof of male oppression and female privilege in our society

[dys]

http://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/2762845-irrefutable-proof-male-oppression-female-privilege.html

Feel free to check out the link to the other forum and see some of the craziest rationalizations that you've ever seen. Feel free to discuss and/or disagree with me as well.

This is true in every State in the USA:

When parents are unmarried, Mother has custody of any child born out of wedlock. Furthermore, Father has ZERO parenting rights by default. What that means is that Dad is not allowed to see the child at all- not even 15 minutes- if Mom does not allow it. In fact, Dad will be arrested if he tries. The only way Dad can get any parenting rights at all is to file in court, which usually results in some small token amount. Almost never does Dad get custody in this situation.

So you have a situation where one gender is given 100% full rights, and one gender is given 0 rights. Nothing, zip, nada. Imagine if you will a scenario where the script was flipped, and it was decided that moving forward Dad was granted 100% parenting rights (Mom zero) when parents are unmarried. That story would be on the cover of every newspaper, it would be the lead on every news show, and it would be discussed on every radio show. Yet this subject is rarely if ever discussed now.

I believe that this policy rises to the level of a large scale human rights violation (remember, not only are Dads rights being trampled on, but also all children born out of wedlock). It's really not that dissimilar to slavery, or anti semitism, or discrimination against people that are handicapped. Perhaps the best analogy would be many decades ago when women were not allowed to vote. Of course that was wrong, why should one gender be given full rights and the other 0? How is this policy any different then women being prohibited from voting?

By the way, I have never been personally effected by this policy. I do have one child from a previous marriage, but I was married to Mom at the time so this has nothing to do with me being effected personally.

[midnight rambler]

Perhaps the best analogy would be many decades ago when women were not allowed to vote. Of course that was wrong

Actually universal suffrage was the beginning of the end - women should have never been given the ability to vote.

[osoab]

Long time dys. How's the world treating you?

[osoab]

Back to the OP, is that because the mom registered the kid and sperm donor was not present?

[cheka.]

skoolz is bad too. the whole thing is set up to cater to girls and thus put boyz at disadvantage

[Stop Making Cents]

Actually universal suffrage was the beginning of the end - women should have never been given the ability to vote.

This is sad but true.

IMO, each family should vote as a unit, with the father casting the vote. No kids, no vote. Feminists and and young skulls full of mush wouldn't be able to vote in commies and assorted leftists.

[cheka.]

This is sad but true.

IMO, each family should vote as a unit, with the father casting the vote. No kids, no vote. Feminists and and young skulls full of mush wouldn't be able to vote in commies and assorted leftists.

yes! need to strip out a lot of voters. imo, i think there should be several ways to qualify to vote. none of them include collecting gov checks or kidz on free lunch

[Joshua01]

What's going to end up happening is the more men are accused of mistreating women, the more women will get mistreated. It's all been done before in history and damn if it's not going to happen again!

[crimethink]

Whenever one of the aborticidal types starts spewing about "a woman's right to choose," ask her (or him) if they support a reciprocal, unconditional right of the father to renounce all rights and responsibilities to the unborn child. That should shut them the fuck up. Or at least get them so irrational that you win any discussion/debate with ease.

The System is definitely stacked against fathers, but not uniformly so. And it's not only mothers who are parasites and defective parents. Reform of the so-called "family court" system should start with the right to a jury whenever custody & "child" support is involved. I've seen egregious injustices against both men and women, by both male and female "judges." The System is focused on "efficiency," not justice, and clearing the docket is usually not consistent with what is truly in the best interests of the child and his/her family. Taking someone's parental rights away is beyond any amount of money, yet neither parent has the right to a jury; the State acts as though the issue is one of property, but sans the right to a jury, as is available in nearly all torts.

[crimethink]

This is sad but true.

IMO, each family should vote as a unit, with the father casting the vote. No kids, no vote. Feminists and and young skulls full of mush wouldn't be able to vote in commies and assorted leftists.

Military action should also require those in favor to either serve themselves, or offer up their children for service; no waivers, no paying to avoid service. The degeneration of society is not merely due to women or the young.

[cheka.]

Military action should also require those in favor to either serve themselves, or offer up their children for service; no waivers, no paying to avoid service. The degeneration of society is not merely due to women or the young.

and pay for it through direct tax on all US adults. paygo, no borrowing

these two things alone would destroy the skype killing machine

[crimethink]

OP comment from the linked thread:

"You could alleviate every single one of your logistical problems by requiring Mom to identify Dad prior to birth."

http://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/2762845-irrefutable-proof-male-oppression-female-privilege-10.html#ixzz4jZ3Qgxap

Unfortunately, that is not always possible. It is disgusting, but a fact in a minority of cases. I know of two of them right now. Dope addict female fucking numerous guys, some of whom she doesn't even know the full/real names of.

This situation gets real tricky when the mother (usually still a doper) applies for CalWORKS (what used to be AFDC + Medi-Cal/Medicaid) in California: the State becomes a party to a child support case, and demands the mother to identify the father. The process for overriding the presumption that the mother knows is intense. The case is usually denied if the mother "refuses to cooperate" but can be overcome via state hearing, if the claim of not knowing is credible to an ALJ. And if she misidentifies the father, it gets "real fun" for him.

www.cdss.ca.gov/cdssweb/entres/forms/English/CW2.1NA.PDF

[cheka.]

this article from 2011. rest assured the numbers are even worse today

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/41928806/ns/business-us_business/t/men-falling-behind-women/

In the last 10 years, 2 million more women than men graduated from college in the United States. That’s an achievement gap that is having profound consequences on the economy.

Once the vast majority, they now make up just over 40 percent of the nation's college students.

Women dominate high school honor rolls and make up more than 70 percent of class valedictorians.

[dys]

Back to the OP, is that because the mom registered the kid and sperm donor was not present?

Actually it doesn't matter whether Dad was present or not. If parents are unmarried Dad gets 0 parental rights by default while Mom gets full custody and parenting rights by default.

[dys]

Long time dys. How's the world treating you?

Hi thanks for asking. Still fighting the good fight just in different ways.

[singular_me]

men and women are not equal but COMPLEMENTARY...... this fight has been going on for centuries, milleniunia long. They are both expressions of the One, opperating on complementary planes...that is why man is more left brain and female more right brained... when society doesnt control them. There is no electricity without positive and negative charges. No God.

control did you say ??? Fighting for either one or the other side will not resolve the issues

[dys]

men and women are not equal but COMPLEMENTARY...... this fight has been going on for centuries, milleniunia long. They are both expressions of the One, opperating on complementary planes...that is why man is more left brain and female more right brained... when society doesnt control them. There is no electricity without positive and negative charges. No God.

control did you say ??? Fighting for either one or the other side will not resolve the issues


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