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Down1
14th June 2017, 05:21 AM
Odd.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4601902/Huge-inferno-West-London-tower-block.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4601902/Huge-inferno-West-London-tower-block.html
Joshua01
14th June 2017, 05:53 AM
They're already attributing the fire to a 'faulty fridge'. That's great investigative work and I'm sure they wanted to be quick to assure their citizens that muslims aren't going around setting apartment buildings on fire in London (no matter how much bullshit they need to spin up)
crimethink
14th June 2017, 06:23 AM
The second best thing to happen would be for it to topple over like a large tree...i.e., not into its own footprint.
Neuro
14th June 2017, 07:48 AM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/06/14/11/41694F7C00000578-0-image-a-36_1497435610066.jpg
Way more intense than WTC7...
From the dailymail link in the OP:
The brigade said a structural engineer had checked the building and determined it was not in danger of collapse and that rescue teams were safe to be inside.
madfranks
14th June 2017, 09:07 AM
As tragic as this is, from now on any high-rise fire will point out the stupidity of attributing WTC 7's collapse to fire. Just to compare to the above, here's the fire that "took down" WTC 7:
http://www.debunking911.com/wtc7_nypd2001.jpg
Norweger
14th June 2017, 12:58 PM
The plebs will predictably claim that wtc7 had external damage from falling debris from the twin towers. Since wtc7 had external damage then one does not need an airplane for symmetrical collapse.
madfranks
14th June 2017, 01:45 PM
The plebs will predictably claim that wtc7 had external damage from falling debris from the twin towers. Since wtc7 had external damage then one does not need an airplane for symmetrical collapse.
The plebs didn't write the official NIST explanation report, which concluded that fire, not external structural damage, was the cause of the collapse.
Joshua01
14th June 2017, 01:48 PM
They keep bobbing and weaving from one excuse to another trying to keep one step ahead of us conspiracy theorists
The plebs didn't write the official NIST explanation report, which concluded that fire, not external structural damage, was the cause of the collapse.
Neuro
14th June 2017, 01:49 PM
The plebs will predictably claim that wtc7 had external damage from falling debris from the twin towers. Since wtc7 had external damage then one does not need an airplane for symmetrical collapse.
According to even NIST, the damage from the twin towers, the falling debris had little to nothing to do with the collapse of the towers, it was completely blamed on the fires.
Glass
14th June 2017, 07:24 PM
They are suggesting that recent building renovations including the fitting of flammable external decorative cladding may be the reason for the fires rapid spread and intensity.
We have a new childrens hospital being built in our city. As expected is complete fiasco along the lines of Yes Minister (UK TV Show)
More than 1 year over schedule
Well over budget.
Not enough actual hospital beds for sick children
Lead water pipes installed (supplied from China - outlawed in Australia)
Plumbing that isn't plumb
Asbestos used in the Childrens ward ceilings (supplied from China - outlawed in Australia
Flammable external decorative cladding - again supplied from you know where.
It could end up like this... and full of sick children.
sorry, it's all I can think of when I see shit like this. It isn't incompetence.
old steel
14th June 2017, 08:48 PM
Still can't figure out how 19 ragheads got the trillion dollar military security system in place to stand down.
Give me Dick Cheney, a waterboard and half an hour and i will have your answer, guaranteed!
The 9/11 USAF Stand Down
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/911stand.html
crimethink
15th June 2017, 10:03 AM
Looks like the building was full of invaders:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/nintchdbpict000331685025-e1497516256507.jpg?strip=all&w=960&quality=100
Free Food - Halal
Down1
15th June 2017, 03:56 PM
Sad thing is that 200 invader KIA total has already been made up with new invaders arriving.
I will be interested to see what ethnicity the contractors are who did the renovation work are.
crimethink
15th June 2017, 04:00 PM
Sad thing is that 200 invader KIA total has already been made up with new invaders arriving.
I will be interested to see what ethnicity the contractors are who did the renovation work are.
I want to know what owned the slum tower.
Glass
15th June 2017, 05:28 PM
it isn't incompetence
Experts warned government against cladding material used on Grenfell
The government’s building safety experts warned last year that the drive for greater energy efficiency meant more and more buildings are being wrapped in materials that could go up in flames.
In a report compiled before the Grenfell Tower disaster (https://www.bre.co.uk/page.jsp?id=3694) on Wednesday, the Building Research Establishment, which works for the Department of Communities and Local Government on fire investigations, said attempts to innovate with insulation were leading to an “increase in the volume of potentially combustible materials being applied” to buildings.
Construction and fire experts increasingly fear that the cladding system applied to Grenfell Tower may have been instrumental (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/15/long-builder-chain-for-grenfell-a-safety-and-accountability-issue) in spreading the fire. The system was installed to improve the thermal efficiency of the building and improve its appearance.
Investigations are also focused on gas pipes in the stairways and lobbies recently installed by National Grid, which residents had complained had not been boxed in with fire retardant material despite assurances they would be.
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There is also uncertainty over how the project’s adherence with building regulations was scrutinised. The Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea, where Grenfell Tower is situated, said a “full plans decision notice was not required in this case” and that “a completion certificate was issued” instead.
According to the government’s website (https://www.gov.uk/building-regulations-approval/how-to-apply), a full plans decision notice is “the most thorough option”, but this was not taken. Neither the borough nor the cladding contractor, Harley, responded when asked to comment on why this route was not taken.
The Reynobond cladding applied to the Grenfell tower last year as part of a £10m refurbishment is made from powder-coated aluminium panels that are usually filled with plastic insulation, which is flammable.
As detailed on the planning application, fire barriers were due to be inserted between the cladding on each floor to limit the spread to small melt out areas. But Dr Jim Glocking, technical director at the Fire Protection Association, said its own tests on external thermal insulation cladding systems showed that if these barriers are breached by a vent or a pipe, “a chimney effect may quickly develop that will cause the very rapid consumption of the insulation and expansion of the damage area”.
Geoff Wilkinson, managing director of Wilkinson Construction Consultants, said the hole could be relatively modest in size, adding: “Even a drill hole of four inches in diameter can be enough.”
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Rydon, the main contractor, said in statement the project “met all required building regulations – as well as fire regulation and health and safety standards – and handover took place when the completion notice was issued by Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea building control”.
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Ipswich firm Celotex confirmed it provided insulation materials for the refurbishment. The material has the most stringent “class 0” fire rating in building standards regulations but independent tests on the material used to make it, polyisocyanurate, show that in intense fires it can release lethal hydrogen cyanide fumes and can be rapidly fatal.
Public Health England moved to dampen fears about ongoing poisons in the air and a spokeswoman said there was “minimal wider risk to public health as a result of the smoke plume”. She said all smoke is toxic and could have affected those close to the scene but that no additional or unusual chemical fumes had been detected.
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One architect, who has used similar systems, said cladding panels are also available with mineral wool insulation, which are less flammable but more expensive.
“I only use the mineral wool ones because your gut tells you it is not right to wrap a building in plastic,” he told the Guardian.
As far back as 2000, Gordon Cooke – a leading fire safety consultant – warned in a report commissioned by the mineral wool industry “the use of plastic foam cored sandwich panels ... is difficult to justify when considering life safety”.
The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/15/experts-warned-government-against-cladding-material-used-on-grenfell)
madfranks
15th June 2017, 08:28 PM
Construction and fire experts increasingly fear that the cladding system applied to Grenfell Tower may have been instrumental in spreading the fire.
Well I'm a construction and fire expert and I agree that likely this is the case. Here in the US, building codes require conformance with NFPS 285, but I have yet to meet another architect who has ever heard of it, or it's significance.
http://www.nfpa.org/codes-and-standards/all-codes-and-standards/list-of-codes-and-standards/detail?code=285
crimethink
15th June 2017, 09:03 PM
The Reynobond cladding applied to the Grenfell tower last year as part of a £10m refurbishment is made from powder-coated aluminium panels that are usually filled with plastic insulation, which is flammable.
That's an understatement. Once aluminum ignites, it's a bitch to stop. Class D extinguishant, and lots of it. Once it starts in a building (or ship, e.g., HMS Sheffield), just get out. If you can. And it appears 100+ didn't.
monty
15th June 2017, 09:05 PM
Grenfell Tower is evidence WTC 7 was an inside job. ~ End Times News Report
http://youtu.be/H5d0LdlFOCw
https://youtu.be/H5d0LdlFOCw
More evidence that the collapse of WTC 7 was a demolition
http://youtu.be/X-ADT-j32E8
https://youtu.be/X-ADT-j32E8
Glass
15th June 2017, 09:10 PM
17 victims dead so far.
17 victims critical.
1st Victim is Mohammed
He was a refuge from Syria
crimethink
15th June 2017, 09:14 PM
Well I'm a construction and fire expert and I agree that likely this is the case. Here in the US, building codes require conformance with NFPS 285, but I have yet to meet another architect who has ever heard of it, or it's significance.
http://www.nfpa.org/codes-and-standards/all-codes-and-standards/list-of-codes-and-standards/detail?code=285
Alcoa has a TDS for their zinc version of Reynobond, and it complies with NFPA 285:
https://www.arconic.com/aap/north_america/catalog/pdf/tech_bulletins/Zinc%20FireTestRating_Technical_Bulletin.pdf
https://www.arconic.com/aap/north_america/en/product_category.asp?cat_id=1756
Can't say the same for the aluminum ("aluminium") versions.
(note: "Arconic" is the new name for Alcoa's finished metals division, which itself was originally Reynolds Aluminum, hence, "Reynobond")
Glass
15th June 2017, 09:23 PM
Arconic has an eagle cam watching 3 baby eagles in Davenport. A competition resulted in them being named Apollo, Gemini and Mercury. 1091 votes for.
Because those "missions" used aluminum produced at that plant.
crimethink
15th June 2017, 10:10 PM
The slum landlord has quite the reputation for years:
http://fromthehornetsnest.blogspot.com/2015/04/has-robert-black-delivered-for-tmo.html
Robert Black. British, or Jewish?
"Stamp out division to create 'cohesion' within the board." Did that include complaints from resident board members being quashed?
Grenfell Tower is owned by the borough council in Kensington and Chelsea, but the management of the building is the responsibility of an independent company - Kensington and Chelsea Tenant Management Organisation (KCTMO).
Robert Black is the company's Chief Executive Officer and he took office in 2009 having previously worked as Executive Director of Service at Circle Anglia for five years where he was responsible for services for 45,000 homes across seven companies including asset management.
He is a father of two who lives in a £1million house in South East London with his wife of almost 20 years.
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Asked how many other tower blocks he manages he said: 'I can't tell you off the top of my head.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4603626/Taxpayers-11MILLION-company-managing-Grenfell-Tower.html
Those in "public service" should be required to live in the jurisdiction, or, in this case, a housing structure, they are in charge of.
herenow
15th June 2017, 10:38 PM
The slum landlord has quite the reputation for years:
http://fromthehornetsnest.blogspot.com/2015/04/has-robert-black-delivered-for-tmo.html
Robert Black. British, or Jewish?
"Stamp out division to create 'cohesion' within the board." Did that include complaints from resident board members being quashed?
Grenfell Tower is owned by the borough council in Kensington and Chelsea, but the management of the building is the responsibility of an independent company - Kensington and Chelsea Tenant Management Organisation (KCTMO).
Robert Black is the company's Chief Executive Officer and he took office in 2009 having previously worked as Executive Director of Service at Circle Anglia for five years where he was responsible for services for 45,000 homes across seven companies including asset management.
He is a father of two who lives in a £1million house in South East London with his wife of almost 20 years.
(...)
Asked how many other tower blocks he manages he said: 'I can't tell you off the top of my head.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4603626/Taxpayers-11MILLION-company-managing-Grenfell-Tower.html
Those in "public service" should be required to live in the jurisdiction, or, in this case, a housing structure, they are in charge of.
From what I can tell this one seems neither hoax nor FF... perhaps no agenda and just a terrible event...
it's especially sad for me as I lived near there for 10 years - I know the neighborhood well
herenow
15th June 2017, 10:42 PM
From what I can tell this one seems neither hoax nor FF... perhaps no agenda and just a terrible event...
it's especially sad for me as I lived near there for 10 years - I know the neighborhood well
IF there is a motivation - it WILL be Jewish oriented..
Glass
15th June 2017, 11:19 PM
there are some numbers. let it percolate a bit for now though
Grenfell number value resonates with the last 2 events in London
Dates and times
As it does with the highway that runs by there - that should be a nice clue.
Number of dead so far and number of critical resonates with numbers for The Great Fire of London
madfranks
16th June 2017, 07:49 AM
That's an understatement. Once aluminum ignites, it's a bitch to stop. Class D extinguishant, and lots of it. Once it starts in a building (or ship, e.g., HMS Sheffield), just get out. If you can. And it appears 100+ didn't.
Yes, and couple that with the foam plastic insulation in between then aluminum panels. Once the insulation ignites, it's game over. Plastic insulation has some of the worst performing flame spread and smoke developed indexes in the building material world. Also, that kind of insulation produces plumes of thick, black, toxic smoke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq9M8EyGYBU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq9M8EyGYBU
Go to 4:30 in the above video and you can see how fast the fire spreads with foam plastic, and the heavy black smoke just billowing out. They had to terminate the test at 0:44 seconds because the fire hit flashover conditions at that point. Imagine that, 44 seconds is hardly enough time to react and start getting out of a building. And that smoke will kill you faster than the heat of a fire will.
madfranks
16th June 2017, 07:59 AM
From what I can tell this one seems neither hoax nor FF... perhaps no agenda and just a terrible event...
it's especially sad for me as I lived near there for 10 years - I know the neighborhood well
My opinion is this is one more example of the side effects of the "green" and "sustainable" movement in building design and construction. They sheath these buildings with foam insulation boards because this is what they call "continuous insulation," meaning the insulation is not interrupted by studs or other framing members; the insulation is continuous over all the framing. They require this for energy conservation, meaning the building will use less energy. The consequence is that you have an entire building sheathed with extremely flammable and dangerous material. If you recall, there have been multiple high rise fires in Dubai, and for the same reason; they have a very strict energy code so all their skyscrapers are wrapped with flammable insulation.
I can speak from experience here. Where I live in Colorado, the city of Denver recently updated their building codes such that with very few exceptions, all commercial structures now require continuous exterior insulation to satisfy the energy code. I recently issued my first set of construction docs where I had to specify continuous exterior insulation. However, I specified mineral wool panels, not foam plastic. The mineral wool is more susceptible to moisture, so the challenge is building those exterior details right, but at least if a fire ever occurs the building will be more safe.
Glass
16th June 2017, 05:17 PM
My opinion is this is one more example of the side effects of the "green" and "sustainable" movement in building design and construction. They sheath these buildings with foam insulation boards because this is what they call "continuous insulation," meaning the insulation is not interrupted by studs or other framing members; the insulation is continuous over all the framing. They require this for energy conservation, meaning the building will use less energy. The consequence is that you have an entire building sheathed with extremely flammable and dangerous material. If you recall, there have been multiple high rise fires in Dubai, and for the same reason; they have a very strict energy code so all their skyscrapers are wrapped with flammable insulation.
I can speak from experience here. Where I live in Colorado, the city of Denver recently updated their building codes such that with very few exceptions, all commercial structures now require continuous exterior insulation to satisfy the energy code. I recently issued my first set of construction docs where I had to specify continuous exterior insulation. However, I specified mineral wool panels, not foam plastic. The mineral wool is more susceptible to moisture, so the challenge is building those exterior details right, but at least if a fire ever occurs the building will be more safe.
Are your inspections done by City Officials or are they done by private companies contracted to the City?
Joshua01
16th June 2017, 07:03 PM
They're trying to make it as dangerous as possible while telling us we must protect the planet. Farking moonbat idiots will get us all killed eventually!
My opinion is this is one more example of the side effects of the "green" and "sustainable" movement in building design and construction. They sheath these buildings with foam insulation boards because this is what they call "continuous insulation," meaning the insulation is not interrupted by studs or other framing members; the insulation is continuous over all the framing. They require this for energy conservation, meaning the building will use less energy. The consequence is that you have an entire building sheathed with extremely flammable and dangerous material. If you recall, there have been multiple high rise fires in Dubai, and for the same reason; they have a very strict energy code so all their skyscrapers are wrapped with flammable insulation.
I can speak from experience here. Where I live in Colorado, the city of Denver recently updated their building codes such that with very few exceptions, all commercial structures now require continuous exterior insulation to satisfy the energy code. I recently issued my first set of construction docs where I had to specify continuous exterior insulation. However, I specified mineral wool panels, not foam plastic. The mineral wool is more susceptible to moisture, so the challenge is building those exterior details right, but at least if a fire ever occurs the building will be more safe.
madfranks
16th June 2017, 09:28 PM
Are your inspections done by City Officials or are they done by private companies contracted to the City?
Ha ha, city inspectors don't have half the education design professionals do, and wouldn't even know the reasons they are required to inspect what they do. AFAIW, they will require a special (3rd party) inspection for this new aspect of construction, which means that most likely I'll be receiving a phone call to come inspect the insulation myself.
singular_me
22nd June 2017, 03:04 AM
a cheap way to circumvent potential lawsuits... ???
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‘Survivors of the Grenfell Tower fire are to be permanently rehoused in a £2bn luxury apartment block in Kensington, the Government has announced.
Some 68 one, two and three-bedroom flats have been bought by the Government at the Kensington Row development in upmarket High Street Kensington, Sajid Javid, the Communities Secretary, said.
The announcement comes a week on from the disaster, which left at least 79 dead.
The properties are “newly built social housing” at a site where private homes are on offer from £1,575,000 to £8.5m and boast a 24-hour concierge and a private cinema, according to the website of developer St Edward.
The Department for Communities and Local Government (DCLG) said the “expectation is that these new properties will be offered as one of the options to permanently rehouse residents from Grenfell Tower”.’
Read more: Grenfell Tower: Victims to be permanently rehoused in £2billion luxury Kensington apartment block
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/grenfell-tower-latest-victims-rehoused-2bn-kensington-luxury-apartment-block-68-flats-a7800856.html
Joshua01
22nd June 2017, 05:54 AM
Mostly shitskins I imagine
a cheap way to circumvent potential lawsuits... ???
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‘Survivors of the Grenfell Tower fire are to be permanently rehoused in a £2bn luxury apartment block in Kensington, the Government has announced.
Some 68 one, two and three-bedroom flats have been bought by the Government at the Kensington Row development in upmarket High Street Kensington, Sajid Javid, the Communities Secretary, said.
The announcement comes a week on from the disaster, which left at least 79 dead.
The properties are “newly built social housing” at a site where private homes are on offer from £1,575,000 to £8.5m and boast a 24-hour concierge and a private cinema, according to the website of developer St Edward.
The Department for Communities and Local Government (DCLG) said the “expectation is that these new properties will be offered as one of the options to permanently rehouse residents from Grenfell Tower”.’
Read more: Grenfell Tower: Victims to be permanently rehoused in £2billion luxury Kensington apartment block
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/grenfell-tower-latest-victims-rehoused-2bn-kensington-luxury-apartment-block-68-flats-a7800856.html
madfranks
22nd June 2017, 07:30 AM
So are they trying to start a trend now, that if your home burns down through no fault of your own, you get free luxury housing for the rest of your life?
crimethink
22nd June 2017, 08:54 AM
So are they trying to start a trend now, that if your home burns down through no fault of your own, you get free luxury housing for the rest of your life?
If the victims were Englishmen, it would be, "sorry, you're on your own."
madfranks
22nd June 2017, 12:33 PM
If the victims were Englishmen, it would be, "sorry, you're on your own."
Yeah, the government can't risk being called racist for not giving brown people free luxury housing for the rest of their lives.
PatColo
22nd June 2017, 02:58 PM
Not the first sentiment of its kind I've seen since that fire,
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cB0oyZAENy4/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEXCNACELwBSFryq4qpAwkIARUAAIhCGAE=&rs=AOn4CLCPzYZxuMytwXr376bMjD3VibmgTQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB0oyZAENy4) 54:29
Grenfell Tower, The Clinical Extermination Of The Poor, Gentrification & The Depopulation Agenda. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB0oyZAENy4)
46,940 views
6 days ago
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/U4A7EhRNr2w/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEXCNACELwBSFryq4qpAwkIARUAAIhCGAE=&rs=AOn4CLAMHuFUz3gfmqgliFp4UU_3uB7PRg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4A7EhRNr2w) 37:22
Mark Windows "The Social Cleansing Of Places Like Grenfell Tower Is All Part Of Agenda 21/30." (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4A7EhRNr2w)
6,459 views
14 hours ago
monty
22nd June 2017, 04:02 PM
Professor says victims were probably killed by cyanide gas and carbon monoxide from the burning cladding
http://youtu.be/0F8BcHtvzaY
https://youtu.be/0F8BcHtvzaY
Glass
26th June 2017, 12:04 AM
Where did the 500 Grenfell residents disappear to?
Grenfell building was slated for demolition in 2014
Was there anyone in the actual building?
Some are suggesting those 500 missing residents actually died in the building.
Or they never existed?
Strange interviews of victims
Fire started in 4th floor flat of Refugee.
Refrigerator catches fire
Fire brigade show up. Extinguish fire, pack up and leave
Then next thing the outside of the building catches fire.
Video of Fire brigade shows odd conversations, lack of alarm. No effort to call in disaster, extra crews etc.
No mustering point, no one following fire procedures
People told to shelter in place.... in a building fire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAuIWjiISxU
Here's guys 1st video.
No one is coming for the food and clothing aid
He thinks they might have died in there. hmmm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfgIiWts7N8I
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfgIiWts7N8)
I think it could go either way. Either all (nearly all) the residents died and they are covering it up, or the building was virtually empty and the numbers presented are low because of that.
What ever happened I think it was planned.
PatColo
26th June 2017, 08:52 AM
What ever happened I think it was planned.
yes that's what many are thinking. Fetcho's 2nd hour guest Saturday was Graham Hart, and 3rd was Ole Damegaard; I only heard the Graham & only "with one ear", but it was mainly Grenfell skepticism. Then if you know who Ole D is, safe bet that last hour is also heavy on Grenfell.. Advance to around the 1 hr mark:
Dennis Fetcho, Inside the Eye - Live! 2017.06.24 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2017/06/dennis-fetcho-inside-eye-live-20170624.html)
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-AMvcs06HCFc/WPIKENiSwZI/AAAAAAAAAn8/aK1oOf3y4F41hoZirknurvC3du-cS8SywCLcB/s320/dennis-casual-2smaller.jpg (https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-AMvcs06HCFc/WPIKENiSwZI/AAAAAAAAAn8/aK1oOf3y4F41hoZirknurvC3du-cS8SywCLcB/s1600/dennis-casual-2smaller.jpg)
Dennis Fetcho, aka "The Fetch", is an American ex-patriot living in Amman, Jordan. He is the author of the Illuminatus Observor (http://illuminatusobservor.blogspot.com/), a blog regarded by many as simply the finest Hermetic Qaballa blog in all of blogdom. The Fetch also has a second site called "Inside The Eye - Live! (http://insidetheeyelive.com/)"
Hour 1 - News and Current Events
Hour 2 - Graham Hart (http://www.grahamhart.biz/)
Hour 3 - Guest, Ole Dammegard (https://www.lightonconspiracies.com/)
64k Download (https://archive.org/download/ITELRadioFullShow6.24.17/ITEL%20Radio%20Full%20Show%20-%206.24.17.mp3)
Joshua01
26th June 2017, 08:54 AM
It's London, nobody cares. Just like Detroit and Chicongo. The Jewish led progressive utopias are crumbling and I couldn't be more pleased
PatColo
6th July 2017, 07:01 AM
Some dinjoo/tool here trying to plant the notion that an Israeli Secret Intelligence Service (ISIS) cell was in the tower trying to make a bomb :o, and Richie Allen, admirably, challenges him. The 'evidence' the tool presents is classic, :D
Richie cut the segment from a longer interview, to ensure it gets the attention it deserves.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/5rm4ZVe7qDI/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEXCNACELwBSFryq4qpAwkIARUAAIhCGAE=&rs=AOn4CLDQUB-vE3CNY-yT3bvRhuv1Mx9NDA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rm4ZVe7qDI) 13:06
Michael Shrimpton In Sensational Claim That ISIS Cell Accidentally Started Grenfell Tower Fire! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rm4ZVe7qDI)
6,982 views
1 day ago
Here's the full interview, which I haven't listened to-- notice the above clip has nearly 1800 more views than the full show. Title suggests Shrimpton is a PedoGate activist, so curious to reconcile how he can be spouting war-on-(((ISIS)))-hoax propaganda out the other side of his mouth!? :(??
I'll give this show a listen later :)
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/tSF5-nBaa4Q/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEXCNACELwBSFryq4qpAwkIARUAAIhCGAE=&rs=AOn4CLBsZRr3RDneQtnnMnXAg-kB3zRuaw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSF5-nBaa4Q) 42:12
Shrimpton "The Jersey Abuse Inquiry Didn't Follow The Evidence Leading To Heath & Savile." (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSF5-nBaa4Q)
5,221 views
1 day ago
C.Martel
6th July 2017, 07:18 AM
The tory "government" is getting so much blowback from this fire, they they would love to blame the muzzies. But are according to this the guest, they are sitting on "multiple sources" from "British intel" that muzzies "accidentally started the fire". The fire could help bring down the tory "government" and they, the zionists, want to defend the muzzies and must hide the "evidence". They are the ones promoting the Wahhabists to commit terrorists attacks so they can consolidate and expand their "power", but are this time not wanting to expose the muzzies?
The very night of the fire, on the youtube live video of the fire there was practically no people referencing Building 7 for 9/11, you had a the neo-right youtubers saying muzzies set the fire, it was the muzzies. It went on as long as I was watching, then I switched it off.
PatColo
13th July 2017, 08:49 PM
Another show with guest Graham Hart; main topic is his Grenfell conspiracy theorizing, citing a bunch of factors pointing to a planned "social cleansing" FF event. Video of firemen hugging each other, uniforms spotless. Building's insurance policy significantly changed a couple months before (shades of Lucky Larry Silverstein...); but they were vague on the specific details. Prior rumblings of (((UK's PTB))) indicating their agenda of gentrifying the area of Grenfell.
Last ~1/3 is Graham's musing to his waking up to the JP as of ~1.5 years ago.
Notice Mami's Shit (grizzom.blogspot) admin zapopper's comments re the dodgy audio. I see Mami's is planning some sort of branded podcast project of their own. :)
This is 1h 46m:
Lets Talk Live - With Martin Farrell 2017.07.06 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2017/07/lets-talk-live-with-martin-farrell.html)
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NjZ56_dtnZk/VEbLMbGqh9I/AAAAAAAABhE/CTvgVJ-0ldg/s1600/1530589_208214029381168_595963227_n.jpg (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NjZ56_dtnZk/VEbLMbGqh9I/AAAAAAAABhE/CTvgVJ-0ldg/s1600/1530589_208214029381168_595963227_n.jpg)
Martin speaks with guest Graham Hart about the recent Grenfell Tower fire tragedy of June 14th. Also discussed are Palestine, the Middle East, and of course…the Jews. How could you have a conversation without them?
P.S. Two problems about this audio: Martin was very low which I was able to somewhat ameliorate. The other was some echoing from Martin which I couldn't fix but graham and I were able to determine the cause of it after the show which means that he's ready to do live broadcasting on Mami's Radio or whatever we are going to call it. Stay tuned for that. I will advertize it at the top of the front page before it happens.
BTW: The Martin echoing is bad for the first 40 minutes and then it gets better after that. In any case, Graham talks much more than Martin. It surprised me that I was not able to turn shit into gold LOL.
PeoplesInternetRadio
(http://www.peoplesinternetradio.com/)
56k CF Download (https://archive.org/download/LetsTalkLiveWithMartinFarrell2017.07.06/Lets%20Talk%20Live%20With%20Martin%20Farrell%20201 7.07.06.mp3)
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C.Martel
13th July 2017, 09:19 PM
Another show with guest Graham Hart; main topic is his Grenfell conspiracy theorizing, citing a bunch of factors pointing to a planned "social cleansing" FF event. Video of firemen hugging each other, uniforms spotless. Building's insurance policy significantly changed a couple months before (shades of Lucky Larry Silverstein...); but they were vague on the specific details. Prior rumblings of (((UK's PTB))) indicating their agenda of gentrifying the area of Grenfell.
Last ~1/3 is Graham's musing to his waking up to the JP as of ~1.5 years ago.
Notice Mami's Shit (grizzom.blogspot) admin zapopper's comments re the dodgy audio. I see Mami's is planning some sort of branded podcast project of their own. :)
This is 1h 46m:
Lets Talk Live - With Martin Farrell 2017.07.06 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2017/07/lets-talk-live-with-martin-farrell.html)
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NjZ56_dtnZk/VEbLMbGqh9I/AAAAAAAABhE/CTvgVJ-0ldg/s1600/1530589_208214029381168_595963227_n.jpg (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NjZ56_dtnZk/VEbLMbGqh9I/AAAAAAAABhE/CTvgVJ-0ldg/s1600/1530589_208214029381168_595963227_n.jpg)
Martin speaks with guest Graham Hart about the recent Grenfell Tower fire tragedy of June 14th. Also discussed are Palestine, the Middle East, and of course…the Jews. How could you have a conversation without them?
P.S. Two problems about this audio: Martin was very low which I was able to somewhat ameliorate. The other was some echoing from Martin which I couldn't fix but graham and I were able to determine the cause of it after the show which means that he's ready to do live broadcasting on Mami's Radio or whatever we are going to call it. Stay tuned for that. I will advertize it at the top of the front page before it happens.
BTW: The Martin echoing is bad for the first 40 minutes and then it gets better after that. In any case, Graham talks much more than Martin. It surprised me that I was not able to turn shit into gold LOL.
PeoplesInternetRadio
(http://www.peoplesinternetradio.com/)
56k CF Download (https://archive.org/download/LetsTalkLiveWithMartinFarrell2017.07.06/Lets%20Talk%20Live%20With%20Martin%20Farrell%20201 7.07.06.mp3)
Posted by zapoper (https://www.blogger.com/profile/15726967138606494466) at 7:10:00 AM 22 comments: (https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=8285326182279341416)
Good guys, they believe Israhell should be wiped off the map and the jews sent to Eastern Russia. The religion [jewry] is pure filth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdqZ-iMiIgA
PatColo
13th July 2017, 10:11 PM
Good guys, they believe Israhell should be wiped off the map and the jews sent to Eastern Russia. The religion [jewry] is pure filth.
heh, I typically listen to these pod's "with one ear" whilst doing something else... I must've had my attention diverted for that bit above. But it's definitely in tune with their (esp Graham's) overall tone in this show re the JP.
Interestingly, host Martin Ferrell is from PIR Radio, where Graham was unceremoniously fired from his regular host gig in late '15, after he'd left the reservation & began regularly banging on the JP. I guess peeps freshly woken up to the JP; and everything abruptly comes into focus, are prone to that.... Graham even said in this Ferrell show, that he initially "went overboard."
Conversely, in early '16 Graham picked up a scheduled show at RenegadeBroadcasting, and was suddenly fired when in one of his shows, Ren thought he was a bit overboard with his sympathies for "the GOOD dinjoo-nuffins", :D
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