Vanishing in the wilderness

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This is a story that's a little different but it's about women going missing in the Anchorage, AK area. There have been a lot of Indian women go missing on a certain hi way in Canada too and it's a mystery what happened to them. Something to think about on these missing cases.

Cathy O'Brien spoke of being hunted in a similar way in one of her books.

The mystery was solved in these missing cases and the story is chilling.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBOakDDZXaM

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There's an abandoned town by the name of Portlock Alaska where it's said a lot of hunters went missing . So many people went missing a cannery located there closed down and everyone moved away. This is the story of that town.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mESxGhQcl3Y&t=1068s

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David Paulides has an hour long video up that's pretty interesting. He covers a lot of things that he's investigated over the years. Pretty interesting all the way through and as always so many things don't seem to make sense. There are no missing people stories just his stories about his investigations in different areas and on different subjects.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OchEE-t-bcw

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David Paulides has another one up and this time he talks about a recent attack of a young woman by a grizzly in Montana and she didn't survive. Another young woman is currently missing in Montana and the search is ongoing at this time. There is a cluster of missing in the area where this young woman is now missing.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhCI6tYVv00

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Ok JD, I've never seen a bigfoot or a UFO but I've seen and heard some things that I still wonder about when I've been in the wilderness. I think in maybe 1986 or seven I went in to the Bob Marshall wilderness south of Glacier Park with some other people with saddle horses and pack mules. I think we rode south for about three days with a different camp every night. At the furthest camp we stayed two nights and then started making our way back out.

As I recall I would hear what may have been wood knocks that people speak of as we traveled along during the day and I wondered if it may have just been trees or chunks of wood falling and hitting another tree of chunk of wood. On our trip out of the wilderness we camped along a creek and a couple of guys picked up some dry tree limbs that were baseball bat size and started doing some batting practice seeing how far they could send a rock flying. They made some pretty loud cracks doing that for quite a while. I don't know if they might have attracted the attention of some forrest creatures when they were doing that but they might have.

There were grizzly bears in the area where we were camped and I didn't like the looks of the campsite because someone had camped there before us and had left it kind of dirty. There were some porrkchop bones in the fire pit they'd left that weren't burned and it looked like trouble to me but we camped there anyway. We cooked and ate our supper then set our tents up for the night. We sat around the campfire for a while visiting then turned in for the night.

I think about 2:30 or 3 am I woke up and heard something big walking past my tent. I lay real still and just listened. It was breathing heavy and making kind of a grunt as it walked by. A little way behind it was what sounded like two young Japaese kids jabbering back and forth to each other. I though it was probably a grizzly that went past my tent and those two Japanese kids were going to be running in to that bear and I'd soon hear them screaming. Never heard anything though and I'm sure glad I didn't because even though I had a revolver I'd sure have hated to have to crawl out of that tent and go try to help them.

I just lay there and waited until daylight and we all got up. I asked the others there if they'd heard what I did and no one had and they just kind of looked at me funny when I told them what I'd heard. I looked for tracks but the ground was hard packed and there weren't any. I didn't say anymore about it after that. I looked for recordings of bears to see if I could find a recording of the sounds bears make but never could find anything like what I'd heard going past my tent that night until I listened to a story Greg Yost tells about an encounter he had. I've listened to the Ron Morheads Sierra sounds but they weren't quite like what I heard that sounded like two young Japanese. I don't know what the hell would make to young Japanese kids go hiking in the wilderness though at two or three am in the morning. So I now wonder what walked past my tent that night in the wilderness.

Greg Yost is a real character and kind of interesting to listen too. He tells some stories in this video below and at about the 2:00 mark he does an imitation of something that came down off a hill towards him and his dog "Buddy". The imitation of what he heard coming down off the hill towards him is exactly what I heard going past my tent that night in the Bob Marshall Wilderness minus what sounded like two Japanese kids behind it jabbering to each other.


https://duckduckgo.com/?q=greg+yost+bigfoot&t=h_&pn=1&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DQE Bs_TQCkfM






When I made this post above I couldn't find the Greg Yost video I was looking for. I came across it today so I'm going to put it here so I'll know where to find it. At the 3:30 time mark he does an imitation of what he heard in the park he was in. His imitation of what he heard is exactly what I heard walking past my tent in the Bob Marshall Wilderness in the story above minus what sounded like two young Japanese jabbering back and forth to each other not to far behind.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOfN4ZtklWg



When I was driving truck over the road the company I was driving for sent me to Indiana and I spent several days there picking up and delivering loads that were short hauls. I'd delivered a load late in the evening and they had another one for me to pick up in south east Indiana. I don't remember what town it was near but I still have all my log books stored away and I could look it up if I dug them out. I think looking back now it was probably in the general vicinity of where Greg Yost was in his story in the video above.

They had drop yards all over the country some large with a hundred or more trailers and some smaller. I did a lot of drop and hook where we'd drop an empty trailer then hook a loaded one that needed to be delivered right away. This yard was out in the country away from town. There were no yard lights there either and it was in the middle of the night when I got there. Dropped my trailer and drove around until I found the one I needed to hook to. Got out, hooked up my airlines, cranked up the landing gear and checked the tires. This yard was surrounded by thick forrest and and I had a feeling come over me like I'd never felt before or since. It was not just fear it was a feeling like dread that made it hard for me to even move.

The trailers we pulled had axles that would slide and we could set them so we wouldn't have problems in the cities making corners with out running over the curbs. I needed to set these axles and the mechanism was stuck and I couldn't get it to work. I was getting in and out of the truck going back and forth trying to get it to slide. All the time with this feeling that was almost paralyzing me. I couldn't figure out why I was feeling this way. I had a Glock 357 sig so I dug it out and put it in my pocket but I still had that feeling. I had to really force myself to get out of that truck and get those axles set but I finally got it. It had got to the point I was about to unhook and get the hell out of there.

When I've listened to people tell their stories on HowtoHunt and other sites they talk about a feeling of dread coming over them and feeling like they are being watched. That's what I was feeling that night trying to get hooked up. I now wonder if there was something watching me that I couldn't see. Because of that experience I think I understand what others are talking about when they say they can't move or are barely able to. I'd picked up and dropped loads all over the country in the middle of the night and in some dangerous areas in cities but I never had that feeling before or after that. I didn't see anything but I still wonder now what made me feel that way that night in that drop yard in the forrest.

[JDRock]

An astonishing 76,000 views on a forum of 12 people! T weed has achieved legend status.

[ziero0]

An astonishing 76,000 views on a forum of 12 people! T weed has achieved legend status.

Web crawlers leaving a trail. Nothing like a Democrat vote in a presidential elextion which is untraceable.

[JDRock]

Web crawlers leaving a trail. Nothing like a Democrat vote in a presidential elextion which is untraceable.
wrong. again. web crawlers dont troll only ONE thread on ONE sub section of an obscure forum.

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In Episode 514: Terror In The LBL we are joined by Martin Groves, a retired sheriff, who recently started speaking publicly about his horrific experience in the Land Between The Lakes (LBL) back in 1993. Martin and his hunting partner, who was also a police officer, went on a weekend hunting trip that was supposed to be fun and relaxing. After spending some time in the LBL on their hunts and as nightfall approached, things turn to anything but relaxing. Martin recalls being stalked on his way back to camp where his partner was waiting for him. Then that night through a series of dramatic events, Martin and his partner came to realize that they were being hunted by three upright-walking dogmen. As one dogman came walking into their camp to show itself to them, there were two taunting them from the shadows. They fired upon the creatures and ran for the truck where they encounter more unexpected beasts. Martin and his partner escaped with their lives that night but one hunter not far from their camp wasn't so lucky. After this experience, Martin spent the next 20+ years of his law enforcement career quietly investigating these encounters people were having in the LBL. He's connected a lot of dots and wants to share what he's learned with everyone today in this two-part Overtime episode!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Jlr_X3cZWU



He has a book out with his story. "Beasts Between the Rivers" by Martin Groves.


https://www.amazon.com/Beasts-Between-Rivers-Martin-Groves/dp/B0B4BY4HBV

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Martin Groves the deputy in the video above, mentions a case David Paulides has in this video below. Martin thinks the sons of the fellow who disappeared in the video above may have heard the same thing he did.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gveTXOMHUU8&t=25s

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An interesting interview at this link that may explain what these things are that people encounter in the wilderness. It's an interview with biblical scholar Mark MacClean concerning the Nephillim spoken of in the Bible. They may be the creations of the fallen angels.



https://audioboom.com/posts/8183447-reloaded-4-nephilim-then-and-now

[JDRock]

bump

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Dave Paulides has a pretty interesting story of a guy that went missing on the Missouri River in South Dakota. He was found afterwards a long way from where he went missing and didn't know who he was or how he'd gotten where he was.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKiKLjjxbkk

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It's been awhile since I've posted anything here. I thought the forum was gone for good because I kept getting the message it wasn't here anymore. Clicked on the link today for the hell of it and here it is.


Jeff Nodolny has some interesting stories. This one starts at the 13:00 mark and is from a park ranger that had a run in with a dog man in the Black Hills of South Dakota. He's dieing from cancer and doesn't care about the non disclosure agreement he had to sign after this incident.







https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGJhzbOZdOc

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Here's another one from Jeff Nodolny on DUMB's. I thought it was pretty interesting and he has explanations and theories for what's happening to people that disappear and are never seen again.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ie9vy3oyJc

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This is an account of a dogman attack in Michigan where a woman was killed and fed on. Two park rangers investigated and ended up killing the dogman. People from the government showed up and a coverup followed.









https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftlAWiIyrc4

[woodman]

There have been reports of dog men around my town in Michigan (Luther) for over 100 years. Dog man has been reported in other nearby towns also. There are Bigfoot around also. My wife had one cross the road in front of her down by the luther-Baldwin swamp. Shit is out there and it is real. Fact is, if one shows it’s mug near me I’m giving it the three esses.

https://search.yahoo.com/search?p=dogman+of+luther+song&fr=iphone&.tsrc=apple&guccounter=1

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Jeff Nodolny has another video with dogmen encounters with the police and a man that went missing. There was a cover up that followed. He was later found and appeared to have been fed on. The last story is one from Michigan.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFJCYnmyVZI

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I've steered clear of the ufo stories because they always seemed a little too weird to me and I really didn't have any interest in them. There have been a few though that have caught my attention because it seemed like there may be a connection to David Paulides stories of people vanishing in the wilderness.

Over the years as I've listened to stories there have been things that stuck in my mind and I'm going to post some of those videos and time marks in them for things that caught my attention because they may be connected to what's going on in the wilderness when people vanish.

I think our government may be involved and it may shed some light on why they would cover these things up and hide the truth from us.

This first video is one John Ballen did of the "Travis Walton Story". It's a story with lots of witnesses, a disappearance with the sheriff and his deputies thinking it was a murder then Walton shows up again alive.

There have been people in David Paulides stories who disappeared for awhile then were found alive but couldn't remember what had happened to them but a lot of Waltons memories came back to him and it's a pretty interesting story he tells.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHLb5HbMpbg


Phil Schneider gave some talks on Deep Underground bases before he died.

I'll post a talk he gave in Post Falls, Idaho and at about the 14:00 minute mark he talks about an agreement president Eisenhower was thought to have made in 1954 to allow animals to be taken for experimentation.

People were not supposed to be taken but those taking the animals didn't keep their agreement and started taking people along with animals.

General Isenhower was involved in carrying out the Morganthau plan to exterminate twenty million Germans after they'd surrendered in WWII. In his 1954 deal I now wonder if he may have wanted the German people to be targeted for abduction because David Paulides mentions a lot of people with German ancestry vanish.






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_y2ydvmX68&list=PL2UCBttugFdAK4AVaX_fenO4pT69K63Y8 &index=2




Terry Lovelace wrote a book about his experience at a state park he was camped at called "Incident at Devils Den" and he has an interesting story to tell too. In the video below he is interviewed by Tony Merkel.

There is a part of it starting at the 1:16:00 mark that is especially chilling where he observed other men, women, and children that were probably abducted and what looked like our military people who were probably involved with their adduction and later a cover up.

After the incident he was in the hospital and interviewed by military people and they hypnotized him or so they thought and tried to remove his memories of what happened during this incident.






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-c7Tb1VjHXA



I'm going to bump this video and post another one below so they're in the same place because it covers things I've been wondering about for a long time.

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Jeff Nadolny has done a video that puts everything together that I was thinking and wondering about in the post above. I don't know what to think about all the stuff he covers but I sure wonder about it. Make of it what you will.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7sWeu1-ZZE

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This is a story about four young guys that went camping near Devils Lake, North Dakota. One of them was taken and never seen again. It was covered up and the government was involved.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5te91LXb6-U

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This is a story told to Jeff Nodolny by a Tennessee park maintenance worker about a hiker that went missing.

It's fairly long but interesting. A lever action 45/70 was involved and was a good choice. The hiker lost his life and there was a cover up. The men in Black showed up too.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u91nmPCgFYE

xhttps://youtu.be/AgZqWJ4M_O0?si=CSsn_qiq86XS13uf

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Here are some stories from military men who have been in Afghanistan and have witnessed some strangeness. Everyone has heard the Kandahar giant stories but there are more stories by different military men seeing these things. I think it's interesting and you can make of it what you will.

in the Kandahar story the men of the first patrol vanished and a second team that was sent out ran in to a giant. More stories on this subject below.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkRRERFPfEM

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Jeff Nadolny was contacted by a retired deputy sheriff from the county of the Lovelock caves in Nevada.

He passes along the story told to him by the deputy sheriff.

Some kids from Fallon went in to one of the caves and two of them didn't make it out alive.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJb9MEoqsUw

https://youtu.be/kJb9MEoqsUw?si=QG69f7Iu15jZEtRf

[JDRock]

I just got back from the bridger teton wilderness and heard a vocalization at 3 am that got my heart thumping and my 10 mm ready! Creepy as fk!

[JDRock]

135,000 views on this one thread in an otherwise dead forum. amazing! Anyone have admin powers that can move this to the general section??

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I just got back from the bridger teton wilderness and heard a vocalization at 3 am that got my heart thumping and my 10 mm ready! Creepy as fk!



JD.....Here's a story for you from Base camp Chris. It's a story of some guys that heard a vocalization and were pretty weirded out by it. Later on someone else vanished in that area.

If this were put in the general section I wouldn't be able to post videos anymore.






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNWl8V0k2Qc

[JDRock]

JD.....Here's a story for you from Base camp Chris. It's a story of some guys that heard a vocalization and were pretty weirded out by it. Later on someone else vanished in that area.

If this were put in the general section I wouldn't be able to post videos anymore.






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNWl8V0k2Qc

oooh, good to know- lets leave it here!!

[JDRock]

3:00 in the morning is exactly the time i heard it. I believe these things KNOW when your packing serious heat. this one stayed back 40-50yds in the timber (a mix of lodgepole and engleman spruce). Yet it was loud and long enough to wake me up!

[JDRock]

Also, i will repeat i reccomend dogman encounters radio on youtube- episode 66. Ive learned more about these things from episode 66, than from all the "experts" combined. 5 stars- a once in a lifetime listen.

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So here's a podcast by Jeff Nodolny on the vanishing of people in the wilderness. Bill Cooper, Ross Perot, George Bush senior, Phil Schneirder, Harry Truman, Isenhauer and others are mentioned and played a roll in the story he tells.

You'll have to make of it what you will.


Attack on D.U'M.B'S

At

Dulce, New Mexico





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmUJ4iVJrdM

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This is the story of Travis Walton that vanished for five days in 1975. The Sherriff thought his co-workers must have murdered him but he showed up five days later. When he did show up he had a hell of a story to tell.

You may have to go to youtube to watch this since I'm having trouble getting It to show up here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXm1Hyc-EL0&t=27s


https://youtu.be/xXm1Hyc-EL0?si=zwA7Nn6BD56pO3j2




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXm1Hyc-EL0&t=27s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXm1Hyc-EL0&t=27s

[JDRock]

Travis Waltons story has not been embellished or changed even ONE time. Very very credible.

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A death bed confession by a Federal Park Ranger in North Dakota.

He found two people dead that had been fed on.

He gets to looking around and hears growling.

Two dogmen show up and he shoots one dead with a 45-70.

He goes to jail for refusing to sigh a non disclosure agreement.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAe5B8nvQM8

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Here's a story from Base Camp Chris and it kind of hits home with me. I've been in the Wyoming Badlands at night, on bad, narrow winding roads pulling a horse trailer.

This is the story of a woman in the Wyoming Badlands near Dubois, Wy. and her three dogs.







https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btTlJiv6br4

[JDRock]

Hmmm, im heading out for a combo elk/ fishing trip in a few weeks... in dubois .

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This is kind of an interesting story from Base camp Chris.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TGSKY49fHY&t=8s

https://youtu.be/3TGSKY49fHY?si=jh8zaqaF6jyk1CB6

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Base comp Chris tells the story of a ranch hand in northwest Wyoming near Cody.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JR2iFkplMe0

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Base Camp Chris again with another story about two young guys and two young girls hitchhiking in Canada.

All of them could have vanished in the wilderness pretty easily. It's not good to be hitch hiking and especially when it gets dark.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11HEpzpVCu8

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Base Camp Chris has some stories from Yellowstone, the Tetons and the areas around them. I've been on pack trips in the Yellowstone back country in some of the areas he talks about. He tells some stories of things that were going on in the 80's and that's the time period I was in the park back country. I was also outside of the park in the early 80's in the Thouroghfare country when something came in to our camp at night. I've told that story I think in an earlier post.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8eCqiSsu4I

[JDRock]

Base Camp Chris has some stories from Yellowstone, the Tetons and the areas around them. I've been on pack trips in the Yellowstone back country in some of the areas he talks about. He tells some stories of things that were going on in the 80's and that's the time period I was in the park back country. I was also outside of the park in the early 80's in the Thouroghfare country when something came in to our camp at night. I've told that story I think in an earlier post.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8eCqiSsu4I

I can see GTNP from my deck. Let me tell you, the national parks are fracked up. There is something dark about them. My theory is that when isenhowerstein made that deal with the aliens that he granted them permission to use them as a base of operations. I stay in the natl forest and always go armed to the teeth and with a dog. Ive had enough strange things happen there, but GTNP there are small groups of aspens.. OLD ones twisted like you would a dandelion all the way from the base to the top. Yet NO branches broke.

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One of Steve Isdahls buddies has a channel I just came across.

He's in Canada and he gets a long ways off in to the wilderness at times.

He has an interesting story to tell of some people he ran into in the remote wilderness that spooked him. Starts at the 19:00 minute mark

He also has several stories of people that have written to him of encounters they've had that are pretty interesting too. Starts at the 38:00 minute mark








https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7-Rcj4iMZQ

[JDRock]

I cant wait for spring! I need to get back in the woods!

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Fred Roehl is an elder in one of the tribes in Alaska and he's bringing to light stories of "The Hairy Man" there.

This is an interview in a documentary where he talks about Alaska and one of his experiences with the Hairy Man.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRvgroUQODM



This video below is an encounter that was shared with him.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07-A5acIeCE



I'll put a link below where you can find 250+ encounters Fred shares on his youtube channel.

https://www.youtube.com/@subarcticalaskasasquatch/videos

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Fred is interviewed in this video by a woman that has a lot of good questions and this video has a lot of information.

Fred believes people who have vanished in the wilderness have run in to these things but there are other reasons people disappear also.
Some information included on killing and them eating people.

Interview begins at the 3:00 time mark.







https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbx3U2VQNCc



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Fred Roehl takes you on a four wheeler tour of woods and a valley in Alaska.

Spectacular scenery in the valley where he ends up with close up views of glacier Ice and an ice cave.

The valley is infamous because it's a valley where a serial killer with a bush plane would take young women, turn them loose then hunt them.

It's said he killed 17 of them and maybe more before he was caught.

It's another way people have vanished in the wilderness.







https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppV3XNNLZYk



The video below is about the serial killed called "The butcher Baker".




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZpqB9FtRkg



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I'm going to put a video below of another interview of Fred Roehl. He adds to some of the things he's said in other interviews that are interesting;

The photography that rolls through the interview is spectacular and my guess is they are all photos of Alaska.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NPJQgr-wmo













A couple of links below where you can find Bobbie Shorts notes of her research.
Steve Isdahl occasionally reads from these notes on his podcast "How to Hunt".

Part 1

The+de+facto+Sasquatch+premier+installment PART 1.pdf - Google Drive (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gF72g97S6inKQ_0Z-Um_nvv3OQi-PtNA/view?pli=1)

Part 2

the+de+facto+Sasquatch +-+Behaviors PART 2.pdf - Google Drive (https://drive.google.com/file/d/12gMAHA5Aw7f8a4gbCgGzgcwQZUhtWMBI/view)

I think this link below may be to the website that she used to gather stories and information.

Bigfoot Encounters (http://www.bigfootencounters.com/)

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I've about given up posting anything in this thread because so many of the stories on the net are fiction. So many people are trying to make a living with a youtube channel and they make shit up to get views.

There are only a few like Fred Roehl that I think are honest and actually retell the stories he gathers that are real accounts of what people have encountered.

I've got the feeling that Steve Isdahl is reading stories mostly for the money too, even though he claims not to be.

[hoarder]

I think they are all phony....JMO.

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I think they are all phony....JMO.

Lots of people think it's all phony then one day they see one and it scares the shit out of them and they apologize to everyone they made fun of and they never want to see another one. :)


Here's a David Paulides interview that's interesting.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7ykiotpJEk

[JDRock]

Its all phony.... until it isnt.