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Ares
10th July 2017, 12:28 PM
Keynesian economics is fundamentally misguided because it focuses on how to encourage more spending when the real goal should be to figure out policies that result in more income.

This is one of the reasons I wish people focused more on “gross domestic income,” which is a measure of how we earn our national income (i.e., wages, small business income, corporate profits, etc) rather than on “gross domestic product,” which is a measure of how our national income gets allocated (consumption, investment, government, etc).

Simply stated, Keynesians put the cart before the horse. Consumption doesn’t drive growth, it’s a consequence of growth.

But let’s set all that aside because we have new evidence that Keynesian stimulus schemes aren’t even very good at artificially goosing consumption.
The Impact of Cash for Clunkers

Three economists (from MIT and Tex A&M) have crunched the numbers and discovered that Obama’s Cash-for-Clunkers scheme back in 2009 was a failure even by Keynesian standards.

The abstract of the study tells you everything you need to know.

The 2009 Cash for Clunkers program aimed to stimulate consumer spending in the new automobile industry, which was experiencing disproportionate reductions in demand and employment during the Great Recession. Exploiting program eligibility criteria in a regression discontinuity design, we show nearly 60 percent of the subsidies went to households who would have purchased during the two-month program anyway; the rest accelerated sales by no more than eight months. Moreover, the program’s fuel efficiency restrictions shifted purchases toward vehicles that cost on average $5,000 less. On net, Cash for Clunkers significantly reduced total new vehicle spending over the ten month period.

This is remarkable. At the time, the most obvious criticism of the scheme was that it would simply alter the timing of purchases.

And scholars the following year confirmed that the program didn’t have any long-run impact.

But now we find out that there was impact, but it was negative. Here’s the most relevant graph from the study. It shows actual vehicle spending and estimated spending in the absence of the program.

https://fee.org/media/23599/cash-clunker-study.jpg?width=664&height=589

Bad Policy

For readers who like wonky details, here’s the explanatory text for Figure 7 from the study.

The effect of the program on cumulative new vehicle spending by CfC-eligible households is shown in Figure 7. The figure shows actual spending and estimates of counterfactual spending if there had been no CfC program. Cumulative spending under the CfC program was larger than counterfactual spending for the months immediately after the program. However, by February 1 the counterfactual expenditures becomes larger and by April has grown to be $4.0 billion more than actual expenditures under the program. It is difficult to make the case that the brief acceleration in spending justifies the loss of $4.0 billion in revenues to the auto industry, for two reasons. First, we calculate that in order to justify the estimated longer-term reduction in cumulative spending to boost spending for a few months, one would need a discount rate of 208 percent. Given the expected (and realized) duration of the recession, it seems difficult to argue in favor of such a discount rate. Second, we note that Cash for Clunkers seems especially unattractive compared to a counterfactual stimulus policy that left out the environmental component, which also would have accelerated purchases for some households without reducing longer-term spending.

By the way, the authors point out that Cash-for-Clunkers wasn’t even good environmental policy.

One could also argue that this decline in industry revenue over less than a year could be justified to the extent the program offered a cost-effective environmental benefit. Unfortunately, the existing evidence overwhelmingly indicates that this program was a costly way of reducing environmental damage. For example, Knittel [2009] estimates that the most optimistic implied cost of carbon reduced by the program is $237 per ton, while Li et al. [2013] estimate the cost per ton as between $92 and $288. These implied cost of carbon figures are much larger than the social costs of carbon of $33 per ton (in 2007 dollars) estimated by the IWG on the Social Cost of Carbon [Interagency Working Group, 2013].

So let’s see where we stand.

The program was bad fiscal policy, bad economic policy, and bad environmental policy.



The trifecta of Obamanomics.



No wonder the United States suffered the weakest recovery of the post-WWII era.


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-10/even-keynes-standards-cash-clunkers-was-complete-failure

midnight rambler
10th July 2017, 12:39 PM
That seriously flawed and fucked up .gov concept took a shitload of serviceable automobiles out of the secondary market and substantially drove up the prices on used cars, creating a hardship for 'the little people'. But of course those assholes like talking about how they do nothing but help 'the little people' while completely fucking them over.

Stop Making Cents
10th July 2017, 07:26 PM
Keynes was a fag pervert


Keynes's early romantic and sexual relationships were exclusively with men.[147] Keynes had been in relationships while at Eton and Cambridge; significant among these early partners were Dilly Knox and Daniel Macmillan.[26][148] Keynes was open about his affairs, and from 1901 to 1915 kept separate diaries in which he tabulated his many sexual encounters

midnight rambler
10th July 2017, 08:57 PM
That seriously flawed and fucked up .gov concept took a shitload of serviceable automobiles out of the secondary market and substantially drove up the prices on used cars, creating a hardship for 'the little people'. But of course those assholes like talking about how they do nothing but help 'the little people' while completely fucking them over.

The scope of this epic fuckup is greater than I realized -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THqnKKLD2rw

old steel
10th July 2017, 09:04 PM
Wow, what a gigantic fucking waste of human labor and materials.

It's evil, that is what it is.

Jewboo
10th July 2017, 09:21 PM
Exploiting program eligibility criteria in a regression discontinuity design, we show nearly 60 percent of the subsidies went to households who would have purchased during the two-month program anyway; the rest accelerated sales by no more than eight months. Moreover, the program’s fuel efficiency restrictions shifted purchases toward vehicles that cost on average $5,000 less. On net, Cash for Clunkers significantly reduced total new vehicle spending over the ten month period.

This is remarkable. At the time, the most obvious criticism of the scheme was that it would simply alter the timing of purchases.



My friend traded in his oil-burning Jeep Wagoneer "clunker" towards a brand new Toyota Corolla and instantly saved $4,000.

:D

Neuro
11th July 2017, 01:58 AM
The fact of the matter is that there is no way of knowing how many cars would have been sold without the program, and at what price.

I doubt very much that the car industry had less revenue from the cash for clunkers program, it simply doesn't make sense.

However I wouldn't like to give the impression that I am for these types of government interventions, on the contrary, I think it would have been better if a lot of car companies, who were not innovative, frugal and customer based enough to survivive the recession would have gone under. We would have had better and cheaper cars today without the program.

Ares
11th July 2017, 04:20 AM
The fact of the matter is that there is no way of knowing how many cars would have been sold without the program, and at what price.

I doubt very much that the car industry had less revenue from the cash for clunkers program, it simply doesn't make sense.

However I wouldn't like to give the impression that I am for these types of government interventions, on the contrary, I think it would have been better if a lot of car companies, who were not innovative, frugal and customer based enough to survivive the recession would have gone under. We would have had better and cheaper cars today without the program.

The free market is always better at that. That's why I laugh when people say America is a Capitalist Free Market...

Neuro
11th July 2017, 05:15 AM
The free market is always better at that. That's why I laugh when people say America is a Capitalist Free Market...

Capitalist -yes, free market -no

Lately the running ideology has been to privatize profits and socialize losses. And parts of the privatized profits are used to buy the politicians to do the banksters bidness.

Ares
11th July 2017, 05:18 AM
Capitalist -yes, free market -no

With a central bank dictating lending rates it throws the whole capitalist system into question.

Neuro
11th July 2017, 05:24 AM
With a central bank dictating lending rates it throws the whole capitalist system into question.

I think it is built into the capitalist system that the highest bidder buys the lawmakers, or at least it becomes natural...

Ares
11th July 2017, 05:32 AM
I think it is built into the capitalist system that the highest bidder buys the lawmakers, or at least it becomes natural...

I've always said politicians uniform should resemble NASCAR uniforms. So at least the people can see all of their "sponsors".

Neuro
11th July 2017, 05:45 AM
I've always said politicians uniform should resemble NASCAR uniforms. So at least the people can see all of their "sponsors".

Hahaha! It would look a bit odd seeing Hillary with a Russian Uranium hat arguing that the Russians hacked the election. She would have to wear a tent to fit all her "sponsors" on her.

Horn
11th July 2017, 08:42 AM
It works in the long run for Keynsians.

After you have remove an entire used car autorepair field.

Consumers are now hooked by IV new auto loans.