Taxpayers just funded my swimming pool.

[hoarder]

I posted this in Preparedness because I'm getting prepared for a forest fire sweeping through my property. It's 4 miles West of me now and no rain in sight. Currently at 1000 acres and 200 firefighters (including office personnel).Terrain is too rugged for firefighters on foot so all they are doing is dropping retardant with a bomber and doing bucket work with 3 helicopters...two Bell 212's and one Firehawk (Blackhawk). Dozers are building firebreaks but they are minimal due to steep terrain.

The dwelling protection team just came by and set up 4 rainbirds and this 1000 gallon tank along with a gasoline powered pump.

[Neuro]

I hope you and your house will be ok Hoarder!

[woodman]

Good luck Hoarder.

[Jewboo]

The dwelling protection team just came by and set up 4 rainbirds and this 1000 gallon tank along with a gasoline powered pump.





http://www.wnd.com/files/2014/07/KillZone1.jpg


:rolleyes:

[cheka.]

man, what a view.....until the supercano :cool:

[hoarder]

Now the fire is only a mile away.

[Neuro]

Now the fire is only a mile away.

If you have to leave don't forget to bring your collection of Jewish hero cards with you...

Is the wind in your direction?

[monty]

Good luck.

[hoarder]

Wind died down and now it's just understory burning. Today and tomorrow the wind is predicted to blow out of the Northwest which should keep the fire South of me until the wind changes again.

[Camp Bassfish]

Stay safe and best of luck to you!

[madfranks]

Wow - that fire is close! I hope it doesn't head any closer to you. Have there been any evacuations around you?

[hoarder]

We've been under evacuation orders since yesterday.

[hoarder]

Gentler winds. Fire just creeping along the ground with the occasional tree bursting into flames. I can't really see due to the smoke but it appears more than half the trees will survive.

[cheka.]

We've been under evacuation orders since yesterday.

what do they do to people that don't follow orders?

[hoarder]

what do they do to people that don't follow orders?Nothing. The order is actually just a suggestion. The only catch is that there are some road closures down narrow single lane dirt roads with heavy firefighting equipment so if you leave during a stage 3 evacuation they might not let you return and it could be several days.

[Neuro]

Gentler winds. Fire just creeping along the ground with the occasional tree bursting into flames. I can't really see due to the smoke but it appears more than half the trees will survive.

I hope you'll get a good rain soon. Is rain common at this time of the year? Do you have any problems from the smoke? Lungs, breathing, etc.?

[hoarder]

I hope you'll get a good rain soon. Is rain common at this time of the year? Do you have any problems from the smoke? Lungs, breathing, etc.?With a few exceptions, it generally does not rain after the first week of July and before the first week of September. One of the Firefighter supervisors told me this morning "This is going to be a long duration fire".

Pine and Fir smoke have a pleasant odor. I'm probably breathing the equivalent of 4 packs of cigarettes a day. When this is over I'll probably go through withdrawals. I often wake up at night with "cotton mouth".

[hoarder]

Getting a little closer to home now. Stage 3 evacuation now in effect.

[hoarder]

I rode my 4 wheeler around and found a line of fire on the South end of my property, sneaking up on me.

[monty]

Be safe. Do you think you will have to evacuate?

[hoarder]

I didn't have to but I camped out on neighbors property across the road with a good view of the fire, which is about 3 miles wide (spotting with gaps in between).

Fire is plodding along slowly, just understory. Saw a couple canopy flare-ups last night though. I don't expect it to kill more than 20% of the mature trees. I have fire on both sides of the ridge above my home site.

Tried uploading pic 3 times. Failed.

[hoarder]

Update. About 30% of my property burned, most of which was back-burning (fighting fire with fire). Most of the damage is just understory Douglas Fir. I won't really know how extensive until next spring. They're going to do some more back-burning adjacent to my South boundary today or tomorrow and when that's done I think I'll be out of danger.

[Neuro]

Update. About 30% of my property burned, most of which was back-burning (fighting fire with fire). Most of the damage is just understory Douglas Fir. I won't really know how extensive until next spring. They're going to do some more back-burning adjacent to my South boundary today or tomorrow and when that's done I think I'll be out of danger.
Aren't you going to paint that building? How's your cough?

[monty]

Update. About 30% of my property burned, most of which was back-burning (fighting fire with fire). Most of the damage is just understory Douglas Fir. I won't really know how extensive until next spring. They're going to do some more back-burning adjacent to my South boundary today or tomorrow and when that's done I think I'll be out of danger.

Thanks for the update, glad to hear you are safe.

They put domestic terrorist ranchers in federal prison for back-burning. :confused: /sarc/

[hoarder]

Aren't you going to paint that building? What for? I'm going to leave it natural.
How's your cough?I'm spitting out pieces of lung I no longer have use for.

[hoarder]

Thanks for the update, glad to hear you are safe.

They put domestic terrorist ranchers in federal prison for back-burning. :confused: /sarc/One of my neighbors said he would like to do some back-burning to protect his property and stated "I guess that wouldn't be a very good idea". I told him it would be a very good idea if USFS decided to do it.

[Neuro]

What for? I'm going to leave it natural.
Isn't the wood decaying faster if not treated?

I'm spitting out pieces of lung I no longer have use for.
Good! ;D

[Neuro]

Isn't the wood decaying faster if not treated?


Or did you build your house out of Pacific Yew?
http://ir.library.oregonstate.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/1957/829/FPL_68ocr_rev.pdf;jsessionid=E8694E06DDDA92B054E0A 5508A77CD24?sequence=1

[hoarder]

Isn't the wood decaying faster if not treated?

The posts in the ground are pressure treated. The siding is rough sawn locally cut pine. Dry vertical wood generally does not decay.

[Neuro]

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The posts in the ground are pressure treated. The siding is rough sawn locally cut pine. Dry vertical wood generally does not decay.

I recommended a friend of mine who was building a villa in Sweden some 15-20 years ago to pre-treat it with iron sulfate, and he did, because you never need to paint the house again, and it gets this silvery tone like really old untreated houses get over time, but within a year, and it cost like $10. So today I decided to read up on it re the science. Apparently untreated houses generally last better than painted houses, depending a little on the paint, and if you build the wall correctly with roof protection against moisture (like your roofs), the iron sulfate may add some extra protection against fungus, but not very much against UV-decay. The problem with most paints is that it keeps the moisture within the wood, and if you don't repaint it with proper intervals (which almost always happens in a life time of a house), you'll get a crack in the paint that lets in water, and the paint doesn't let it out and rot starts.

There are wood houses in Sweden that were built 300 years ago, with your type of construction, untreated, that are still standing somewhat intact today.

Good you didn't paint it!

Another option if you want to paint it later on, which would protect against UV decay (about 1/3-1/2 inch in a 100 years) would be to use this Swedish paint which essentially is a mix of iron oxide, rye flour and water. Called in Sweden "Falu Red", may be known other places as "Swedish Red". Which my 130 year old outhouse is painted in, and I repainted a couple of years ago, you have to keep repainting it every 10-15 years though, as it starts looking ugly.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9185&d=1501515931

Btw, will you be able to keep your fancy tax payer funded swimming pool?

[hoarder]

I recommended a friend of mine who was building a villa in Sweden some 15-20 years ago to pre-treat it with iron sulfate, and he did, because you never need to paint the house again, and it gets this silvery tone like really old untreated houses get over time, but within a year, and it cost like $10. So today I decided to read up on it re the science. Apparently untreated houses generally last better than painted houses, depending a little on the paint, and if you build the wall correctly with roof protection against moisture (like your roofs), the iron sulfate may add some extra protection against fungus, but not very much against UV-decay. The problem with most paints is that it keeps the moisture within the wood, and if you don't repaint it with proper intervals (which almost always happens in a life time of a house), you'll get a crack in the paint that lets in water, and the paint doesn't let it out and rot starts.

There are wood houses in Sweden that were built 300 years ago, with your type of construction, untreated, that are still standing somewhat intact today.

Good you didn't paint it!

Another option if you want to paint it later on, which would protect against UV decay (about 1/3-1/2 inch in a 100 years) would be to use this Swedish paint which essentially is a mix of iron oxide, rye flour and water. Called in Sweden "Falu Red", may be known other places as "Swedish Red". Which my 130 year old outhouse is painted in, and I repainted a couple of years ago, you have to keep repainting it every 10-15 years though, as it starts looking ugly.



Btw, will you be able to keep your fancy tax payer funded swimming pool?I didn't know about iron sulfate. I plan to spray some borate solution on it and my log cabin when I get it assembled. It does about the same thing and is readily available. https://www.permachink.com/pcs-connections/how-borates-work

The UV degradation of wood is extensively overstated by the stain industry. I have known many log cabins and barns that never had anything painted on them that have no noticeable degradation after 80 or more years.

I'm a believer in generous roof overhangs and we rarely get a wind driven rain in Montana, so I'm not worried about that. Sometimes we get snow buildup on the ground which gets the wood wet, but little rotting occurs at below 40 degrees f.

The swimming pool and pump is property of ZOG. However, if the Zoglings get amnesia I won't remind them to come and get it.