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crimethink
16th August 2017, 09:28 PM
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/08/cloudflare-ceo-the-people-behind-the-daily-stormer-are-assholes/

Until recently, CloudFlare prided itself on its unwavering commitment to free speech. Even when he was criticized for providing service to alleged terrorist groups in 2013, CEO Matthew Prince stood firm, insisting that "a website is speech. It is not a bomb."

So a lot of people were surprised on Wednesday when the company abruptly changed its tune and canceled the account of the neo-Nazi site Daily Stormer. The action seemed to fly in the face of everything CloudFlare claimed to believe as recently as May.

And in an internal company email obtained by Gizmodo, Prince acknowledged that the decision was exactly as arbitrary as it seemed.

"My rationale for making this decision was simple: the people behind the Daily Stormer are assholes and I'd had enough," Prince wrote. "Let me be clear: this was an arbitrary decision."

Prince wrote that he "woke up this morning in a bad mood and decided to kick them off the Internet. It was a decision I could make because I'm the CEO of a major Internet infrastructure company."

In the same email, Prince argued that it is "dangerous" for that kind of power to be concentrated in any one person's hands.

"It's important that what we did today not set a precedent," Prince added. "The right answer is for us to be consistently content neutral."

vacuum
16th August 2017, 09:38 PM
"My rationale for making this decision was simple: the people behind the Daily Stormer are assholes and I'd had enough," Prince wrote. "Let me be clear: this was an arbitrary decision."

Prince wrote that he "woke up this morning in a bad mood and decided to kick them off the Internet. It was a decision I could make because I'm the CEO of a major Internet infrastructure company."

In the same email, Prince argued that it is "dangerous" for that kind of power to be concentrated in any one person's hands.

"It's important that what we did today not set a precedent," Prince added. "The right answer is for us to be consistently content neutral."

THANK GOD.

Cloudflare has much more control over the web than almost anyone realizes. They host like 60% of the traffic on the web. Did you know that?

They hosted the Daily Stormer. In other words, Cloudflare had the IP addresses and traffic of everyone who visited that site. And many other sites. Its transparent, its not obvious who is being hosted by them, you can't really tell.

And they just fucked all that up.

crimethink
16th August 2017, 09:41 PM
I've made clear I think Anglin is an FBI asset, and The Daily Stormer is, in general, not a strategically productive enterprise, but it is your RIGHT to view the site if you wish to. And, I admit, some of what they post is funny.

The new URL is not currently working: www.dailystormer.ru

The TOR "Dark Web" address refers to that, but you can keep it handy to check for updates: http://dstormer6em3i4km.onion/ (you will need to download and install* the Tor Browser to get there - your regular browser won't work)




* https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en

crimethink
17th August 2017, 08:29 PM
Pirate opinion:

https://torrentfreak.com/cloudflare-kicking-daily-stormer-is-bad-news-for-pirate-sites-170817/

Jewboo
24th August 2017, 02:53 PM
https://punishedstormer.com/ (https://punishedstormer.com/)

crimethink
24th August 2017, 05:25 PM
https://punishedstormer.com/ (https://punishedstormer.com/)

Already gone.

It was working for me before, so either the CDN that offered to protect it has been overwhelmed and/or destroyed, or DNS entries for the site are being blocked by DNS servers.

SockPuppet
24th August 2017, 05:51 PM
blocket by anti maleware things for me says


One Moment
Checking your browser's authenticity...

DDoS Protection by BitMitigate

crimethink
24th August 2017, 06:00 PM
DreamHost hosts National Vanguard and Covington's The Northwest Front, and agreed to take on Punished Stormer.

Then full-scale war was waged on them today, crippling their formidable server farms. No service can afford to host a site that causes near-total failure of their network, so PS is now gone from DreamHost; it wasn't censorship on DH's part.


DreamHost smashed in DDoS attack: Who's to blame? Take a guess...

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/08/24/dreamhost_massive_ddos/

SockPuppet
24th August 2017, 06:02 PM
might all be a deflexion of whats going on behind the senes

crimethink
24th August 2017, 06:09 PM
https://www.punishedstormer.com is working again!

I hear they changed hosts to a Canadian company...we'll see how long that lasts. Brave little BitMitigate is still giving them CDN shielding.