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Dachsie
23rd August 2017, 08:37 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC4IMvrAvIc


Donald Trump is a 9/11 Conspiracy Theorist - My Afghanistan Speech Reaction
Titus Frost
Titus Frost
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Published on Aug 23, 2017

"This is my reaction to the speech just given by Donald Trump regarding Afghanistan. Now if he was being honest he would have said this endless war is for the Military Industrial Complex, it is strategically important militarily due to it's geographic location, being just South of Russia, and being on the border of both Iran and China. Afghanistan also has many rare earth minerals that are important for the MNC's, and has a massive amount of Poppy which is important for the Oxycodone big Pharma industry and the Shadow Government heroine smuggling operations. However, Trump did not mention any of these actual reasons why they want to go to war in Afghanistan, instead he said it was to "prevent another 9/11"... So I the only reasonable response to that is to call him a conspiracy theorist for believing the nut job false conspiracy theory that men in caves in Afghanistan conducted the 9/11 attack.

I understand Donald Trump inherited the Afghanistan war, and for obvious military purposes you can't just pull out and leave a massive power vacuum, however my issue is citing 9/11 as the reason. That is it, I am merely critiquing his belief in a false conspiracy theory about 9/11.

Yes, Donald Trump was a better choice than Hillary Clinton or any of the other mainstream candidates, and I am not arguing otherwise. I just disagree with his stance on 9/11. Let's stay on topic here and not call me a "libtard" as I am not one at all. I do not exist in your statist fake left versus right nonsense paradigm."

Links:

Donald Trump Full Speech: https://youtu.be/HSR4d7a3_Qo

James Corbett's (Corbett Report) "9/11 a Conspiracy Theory": https://youtu.be/yuC_4mGTs9

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I did not listen to this video. I do like some of Titus Frost's work but not this one, especially not since he quotes disinfo James Corbett. Corbett's main claim to fame was his 9/11 - The Truth In 5 Minutes - James Corbett - YouTube. While that video is short and entertaining and technically well produced, the content value is garbage.

Here is the best take on James Corbett
article by Alan Weisbecker -- as one of the original 9-11 truth researchers, this article is a real classic in my library...

http://blog.banditobooks.com/an-open-letter-to-james-corbett/

An Open Letter to James Corbett
by Allan Weisbecker on June 11, 2015 in Blog

Alan gives a clear short primer on NLP - Neuro Linquistic Programming - form of language deception to control the other person's thoughts.

James Corbett is a communicator like Cass Sunstein, MK Ultra specialists, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Alex Jones and all the other Swamp bottom dwellers. They give you the impression they are saying one thing on the surface but what they are actually doing is implanting a false idea in your subconscious. James Corbett is surreptitiously selling the slimy lie that a piloted big jet plane hit the Pentagon on 9-11.

It's about Truth and your love of it or you preference for lies be they subtle serpent lies or blatant, in your face lies.

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Yes Trump accepts a priori fact the official Lies of 9-11, and it is good for Titus Frost to point that out. But a whole slew of new lies and new liars were injected immediately into the "9-11 truth movement" from Day 1 and Titus Frost is using some of those injected lies and liars to refute Trump's promotion of the official narrative 9-11 Lie.

We don't know exactly or completely what happened on 9-11 but we do know that the official narrative, the official story, is a Big Lie. We do not have to "be united" on the specific different 9-11 theories, but we do have to be aware when someone is imposing a false theory on us in place of our continuing search for data, facts and truth and our continuing choosing the best of the best of those.

One thing almost all of the "mainstream 9-11 Truth movement" is a refusal to expose and explore the role of neocons and the CIA and intelligence apparatus's collusion with the Israeli Mossad in the USA, even though some of those mainstream "truthers" appear on the surface to be pointing their little finger at Israel, like Dr. Kevin Barrett and even Titus Frost.

monty
23rd August 2017, 08:42 AM
Donald Trump is a globalist. You don't get filthy rich in New York City by bucking their system. All his advisers and most of his cabinet are CFR new world order Goldman Sachs, his rhetoric doesn't match his actions.

Dachsie
23rd August 2017, 08:50 AM
Donald Trump is a globalist. You don't get filthy rich in New York City by bucking their system. All his advisers and most of his cabinet are CFR new world order Goldman Sachs, his rhetoric doesn't match his actions.

Yes, that is true about President Trump.

Yet I say that God is still on his throne and prayer changes things.

If righteous men pray fervently for Donald Trump, in spite of all his negative characteristics and history, God can use Donald Trump for "working all things for good."

I am sure each of us has experienced having had our prayers answered favorably by the agency of some most unlikely human beings.

We have had a president who has kept us out of nuclear world war for the fist 8 months of his presidency. Focus on and thank God for that, on behalf of every living human being on earth.

PatColo
23rd August 2017, 09:14 AM
I made a thread on that Corbett critique by Weisbecker.

Thread: James Corbett: a Boeing 757 (Flight 77) really did fly into the Pentagon (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?84275-James-Corbett-a-Boeing-757-%28Flight-77%29-really-did-fly-into-the-Pentagon)

Dachsie
23rd August 2017, 09:16 AM
I made a thread on that Corbett critique by Weisbecker.

Thread: James Corbett: a Boeing 757 (Flight 77) really did fly into the Pentagon (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?84275-James-Corbett-a-Boeing-757-%28Flight-77%29-really-did-fly-into-the-Pentagon)

Will go read it now and I guess respond in that other thread.

jimswift
23rd August 2017, 09:46 AM
If righteous men pray fervently for Donald Trump, in spite of all his negative characteristics and history, God can use Donald Trump for "working all things for good."

We have had a president who has kept us out of nuclear world war for the fist 8 months of his presidency. Focus on and thank God for that, on behalf of every living human being on earth.


Suppose everybody should be thankful for Bummer, Clintoons, & Booshes too?

You have known it all along, but there is no voting a way out of whats coming....or praying.

PatColo
23rd August 2017, 10:17 AM
Will go read it now and I guess respond in that other thread.

I just pointed to my other Weisbecker/Corbett thread as an FYI, for further reading if interested. Didn't mean to imply you should move the discussion there! Except maybe if that topic is what you want to address! :)

Titus Frost's message, which he only explained in the YT "More Info" box-- was that DT evoked the 911 fraud as his pretext for further Afghan action. That's bad; say DT is full globalist owned, contrary to his campaign rhetoric. :(

Dachsie
23rd August 2017, 10:21 AM
Suppose everybody should be thankful for Bummer, Clintoons, & Booshes too?

You have known it all along, but there is no voting a way out of whats coming....or praying.



The One Who is Good Incarnate has a different defintion of good that is infinitely beyond what our finite minds can grasp.

"Getting out of" the "bad things to happen" is the thinking of an ordinary man.

The Incarnate Word, the Logos, tells us in His written word from Genesis to the Apocalypse that we must know, love and honor Truth, the One Who is Truth, and we do that through

Fides et Ratio.

The fervent and effectual prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

We are to pray unceasingly and the praise and thank the One Who is Truth with our every thought, word, and deed.

The suffering and death of human beings in this Satanic Swamp world system is not ultimate bad.

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And fear ye not them that kill the body, and are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him that can destroy both soul and body in hell.

Mathew 10:28

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2 Timothy 1:7

For God hath not given us the spirit of fear: but of power, and of love, and of sobriety [sound mind].

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We seek Truth and expose lies and falsity through fides et ratio.

Dachsie
23rd August 2017, 10:28 AM
I just pointed to my other Weisbecker/Corbett thread as an FYI, for further reading if interested. Didn't mean to imply you should move the discussion there! Except maybe if that topic is what you want to address! :)

Titus Frost's message, which he only explained in the YT "More Info" box-- was that DT evoked the 911 fraud as his pretext for further Afghan action. That's bad; say DT is full globalist owned, contrary to his campaign rhetoric. :(

I did go to that other thread but would not say "I moved the discussion there." We don't do much in the way of discussion on GSUS. More just exposure and way to vent and I enjoy that for what it is.

I feel your frustration but I operate by faith and reason. We all hunger and thirst for justice.

What DT is saying and appears to be doing is one thing. What he is actually doing and for what reasons may be, and most likely is, something we know little or nothing about.

"Always remember the admonition that "between man's plan in time and God's plan in eternity - there is an infinite quality of difference". We are to stand on God's side in all that we do - and having done all - to stand. " Quote Dr. Stan Monteith

Neuro
23rd August 2017, 10:35 AM
We have had a president who has kept us out of nuclear world war for the fist 8 months of his presidency. Focus on and thank God for that, on behalf of every living human being on earth.
You sure are easy to please. By the same token, Stalin kept us out of nuclear world war for decades...

Dachsie
23rd August 2017, 10:37 AM
I believe in thanking God for favors, large and small, and it all depends on how you define "easy to please."

What THEY don't do to us is just as important as what THEY do do to us.

Neuro
23rd August 2017, 10:52 AM
I believe in thanking God for favors, large and small, and it all depends on how you define "easy to please."

What THEY don't do to us is just as important as what THEY do do to us.

I really do appreciate not being nuked, but it doesn't distinguish Trump as a good president after a whole 8 months in office.

Dachsie
23rd August 2017, 11:28 AM
I really do appreciate not being nuked, but it doesn't distinguish Trump as a good president after a whole 8 months in office.

Maybe Trump is good bad but he's not evil.

Neuro
23rd August 2017, 11:37 AM
Maybe Trump is good bad but he's not evil.

Which is more evil, unleashing nuclear annihilation on the first day of the presidency or the last?

Dachsie
23rd August 2017, 11:49 AM
Which is more evil, unleashing nuclear annihilation on the first day of the presidency or the last?

Only God knows.

Evil is what it is. It is not a matter of degree.

crimethink
30th August 2017, 04:47 PM
Maybe Trump is good bad but he's not evil.

Is habitual lying evil?

Is loving money more than God evil?