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Twisted Titan
26th September 2017, 12:38 AM
his Border Wall Reduced Illegal Immigration By Over 99%



Mac Slavo
September 20th, 2017
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There is a border wall in existence that reduced illegal immigration by over 99%. Viktor Orban, the Prime Minister of Hungary put up a double fence along the border of his country with Serbia, and the results were staggering.



This tweet sums up the statistical data behind the wall and reduction in illegal immigration. However, somehow the debate over Donald Trump’s wall (http://thehill.com/policy/technology/351527-trump-using-targeted-facebook-ads-to-reaffirm-that-he-will-build-a-border) is still ongoing.



#HUNGARY (https://twitter.com/hashtag/HUNGARY?src=hash) Illegal Immigration Numbers
2015: 391,000
::::::::::::::::::::::::WALL BUILT::::::::::::::::::::::::
2016: 18,236
2017: 1,184 pic.twitter.com/eJhx3a7FuX (https://t.co/eJhx3a7FuX)



— The Daily Sheeple (@TheDailySheeple) September 19, 2017 (https://twitter.com/TheDailySheeple/status/910038073848643584)




Recent Facebook ads assure (http://thehill.com/policy/technology/351527-trump-using-targeted-facebook-ads-to-reaffirm-that-he-will-build-a-border) social media users who support Trump’s wall that he will succeed at building it as promised during his campaign.



“There’s been a lot of noise and a lot of rumors,” reads the ad on Trump’s personal Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump/). “WE WILL BUILD A WALL (NOT A FENCE) ALONG THE SOUTHERN BORDER OF THE UNITED STATES,” it adds, calling the issue “non-negotiable.”


The WALL, which is already under construction in the form of new renovation of old and existing fences and walls, will continue to be built.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 14, 2017 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/908274366739345409)





As pointed out by Reason (http://reason.com/archives/2017/03/31/why-the-wall-wont-work), discussions should be had about the cost and burden on the taxpayers (http://www.npr.org/2017/01/26/511861462/trumps-suggested-import-tax-would-mean-americans-pay-for-that-wall) because of the proposed wall. But setting the cost issue aside, as evidenced by the Hungary numbers, barriers actually do the heavy work of keeping people out. Hungary’s wall was built over two years ago (https://hotair.com/archives/2017/09/17/heres-border-barrier-cut-illegal-immigration-99/), and the flood of people illegally entering the country has all but stopped.



Speaking on the second anniversary of the government’s move to seal Hungary’s border with Serbia — which is also an external border for the European Union — Prime Minister Viktor Orbán’s Chief Security Advisor György Bakondi announced that the fences have caused illegal immigration to collapse from 391,000 in 2015, to 18,236 in 2016, to just 1,184 in 2017.


“The system of technical barriers is the key to the success of border security, and without it, it would be impossible to stop the mass arrival of immigrants”, the security chief explained. –Hot Air (https://hotair.com/archives/2017/09/17/heres-border-barrier-cut-illegal-immigration-99/)




The simple statistics on the wall’s efficacy are staggering. In 2015 there were an estimated 390,000 illegal border crossings. So far this year that number is barely over one thousand. It’s hard to say that a barrier or wall won’t do the trick when it comes to stopping the flood of illegal immigrants. And the Prime Minister of Hungary is all too happy to do what’s best for his country.


Viktor Orban was originally told by the European Union that he couldn’t put the fence up (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4213822/The-EU-country-cracked-Muslim-migrants.html) in the first place. He proceeded to build it anyway, doubled its size, and then sent a bill for half the cost to the EU (https://hotair.com/archives/2017/09/01/perfect-hungary-sends-eu-bill-border-fence/). It’s doubtful he’s expecting repayment, however, the little jab at the EU was probably payment enough. Then, when Angela Merkel announced that Hungary would have to stop defying (http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/09/16/hungary-builds-a-wall-cuts-illegal-immigration-by-over-99-per-cent/) the edicts of Brussels, he thanked her for her input and then basically told her to go pound sand (https://hotair.com/archives/2017/09/12/merkel-hungary-cant-disobey-eu-immigration-policy/). Orban has stood up to tyrants trying to tell him what to do for years, and his wall has proved all of them wrong.


This isn’t to say that we don’t face more challenges than Hungary. The United States has a much larger border and more variable terrain to cover. But the problem is not with engineering or the physics behind the building of a wall – it’s the politics.



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Neuro
26th September 2017, 04:17 AM
This border wall stopped 100% of illegal immigration attempts...

http://cdn.history.com/sites/2/2015/04/hith-10-things-berlin-wall-construction-306-bn-104-1-AB.jpeg



Sorry, just playing devils advocate here. There were a few other things that stopped west Berliners from attempting to escape to East Germany as well... ;D

EE_
26th September 2017, 04:49 AM
The US has a different problem then Hungry, Trumps wall will reduce "Illegal Democrat voter" immigration by over 90%

hoarder
26th September 2017, 09:10 AM
This border wall stopped 100% of illegal emmigration attempts...Fixed it for you.

Neuro
26th September 2017, 09:38 AM
Fixed it for you.

;D Yeah walls can have dual purposes certainly...

singular_me
26th September 2017, 05:23 PM
just like anything else :) open borders follow the same logic, when tyranny controls borders, getting out IS a problem


remaining emotionally centered = no need for a wall/border

(well that should have been understood centuries ago and now we are going to pay the price for failing to get it)


;D Yeah walls can have dual purposes certainly...

Horn
26th September 2017, 06:57 PM
" But the problem is not with engineering or the physics behind the building of a wall"

This guy's an idiot.

Neuro
27th September 2017, 12:14 AM
remaining emotionally centered = no need for a wall/border

Well you have the old adage, that a good fence allows for good neighborly relations= remaining emotionally centered.

For sure there are many things though that have been mismanaged in US neighborly relations for decades. The government refusing to enforce existing laws re entrance to US, government paying healthcare and schooling to illegal aliens. The insane idea that if you are born in US to illegal aliens you automatically become an American citizen, in other words an anchor baby.

It is obvious that the US could control immigration and even make it something that was to its advantage if you go back 50 years or more, when it turned to cultural Marxist immigration policies, without having a wall. So I do agree with you that if you stay relatively sane it is possible to have relatively open borders. But then you can't have politicians that want their cities to be sanctuaries for illegal alien criminals, a politicized justice system that goes into high gear to block even temporary limitations on immigration from countries that have a large proportion of extremist islamists. You can't have an abundance of politicians that believe justice is to take tax payers money and pay illegal immigrants education, housing, healthcare and burial. You can't consistently let corporations that hires illegals get a pass for breaking the labor laws.

The problem is the longer you have a system that practices cultural Marxism, the more defenders of that you will have within the system. The idea that good hard working citizens should pay for those who are not, and their offspring, is very pervasive, after a few generations you don't have many people that are good and hard working, but you'll have plenty that knows it to be there "human rights" to get free shit, and the politicians they vote in to represent them. And these Cultural Marxist representatives thinks it is perfectly fine to import low IQ lazy analphabet Somali Islamist baby factories into Scandinavian societies, to be supported by the social security systems, because we are all equal. Sick Fucks!

Neuro
27th September 2017, 12:21 AM
This guy's an idiot.

Are you thinking of entering the border wall engineering business?