'indian' they lied to us?

[cheka.]

my skoolin' taught me that c columbus (or whoever) was looking for india when it landed in north america. the explorer mistakenly called the people in north america 'indians'. for some reason this erroneous label stuck - for a long frikkin time. why?

further, writers of history books of the 20th century also called the people of mexico, peru, brazil, venezuela, panama, chile, etc by same name - indians

in the last few decades there has been a movement to stop calling these groups indians -

why?

[singular_me]

latin america indians do not look like indians from india


but that is good, another divide and conquer is just being set into motion

one only judges people by their actions, the rest is subjectivity

[cheka.]

latin america indians do not look like indians from india


but that is good, another divide and conquer is just being set into motion

one only judges people by their actions, the rest is subjectivity

were you taught the b.s. story about the explorer naming them indians because india?

[crimethink]

in the last few decades there has been a movement to stop calling these groups indians -

why?

Because "Indian" is not from "(erroneously) presumed resident of India," but rather from "En Dios" - "in the care of God." An accurate term since the American Indians had an understanding of Father God, whom they call(ed) The Great Spirit (Romans 1:20).

Cultural Bolshevism aims to erase all vestiges of the Almighty and His Son from life.

I refuse to use "Native American" for this reason, and, because "native American" means any natural born person in the united States (or, arguably, either of the Americas). "Native American" originally meant "White American" (see the works of Madison Grant).

Russell Means (Indian Revolutionary) on "American Indian":

I Am an American Indian, Not a "Native American"

I abhor the term Native American. It is a generic government term used to describe all the indigenous prisoners of the United States. These are the American Samoans, the Micronesians, the Aleutes, the original Hawaiians and the erroneously termed Eskimos, who are actually Upiks and Inupiats. And, of course, the American Indian.

I prefer the term American Indian because I know its origins. The word Indian is an English bastardization of two Spanish words, En Dio, which correctly translated means in with God. As an added distinction the American Indian is the only ethnic group in the United States with the American before our ethnicity.

At an international conference of Indians from the Americas held in Geneva, Switzerland at the United Nations in 1977 we unanimously decided we would go under the term American Indian. We were enslaved as American Indians, we were colonized as American Indians and we will gain our freedom as American Indians and then we will call ourselves any damn thing we choose.

Finally, I will not allow a government, any government, to define who I am. Besides anyone born in the Western hemisphere is a Native American.

-- Russell Means

[Neuro]

Because "Indian" is not from "(erroneously) presumed resident of India," but rather from "En Dios" - "in the care of God." An accurate term since the American Indians had an understanding of Father God, whom they call(ed) The Great Spirit (Romans 1:20).

Cultural Bolshevism aims to erase all vestiges of the Almighty and His Son from life.

I refuse to use "Native American" for this reason, and, because "native American" means any natural born person in the united States (or, arguably, either of the Americas). "Native American" originally meant "White American" (see the works of Madison Grant).

Russell Means (Indian Revolutionary) on "American Indian":

I Am an American Indian, Not a "Native American"

I abhor the term Native American. It is a generic government term used to describe all the indigenous prisoners of the United States. These are the American Samoans, the Micronesians, the Aleutes, the original Hawaiians and the erroneously termed Eskimos, who are actually Upiks and Inupiats. And, of course, the American Indian.

I prefer the term American Indian because I know its origins. The word Indian is an English bastardization of two Spanish words, En Dio, which correctly translated means in with God. As an added distinction the American Indian is the only ethnic group in the United States with the American before our ethnicity.

At an international conference of Indians from the Americas held in Geneva, Switzerland at the United Nations in 1977 we unanimously decided we would go under the term American Indian. We were enslaved as American Indians, we were colonized as American Indians and we will gain our freedom as American Indians and then we will call ourselves any damn thing we choose.

Finally, I will not allow a government, any government, to define who I am. Besides anyone born in the Western hemisphere is a Native American.

-- Russell Means

Very interesting, I was totally ignorant re this...

[hoarder]

Back in CC's day, most people could not recognize the nationality of brown people because they rarely saw one. It would have been real easy to assume the wagonburners were Indians from India if that's where they thought they landed. The Injuns themselves didn't know any different.

I agree, it's time to change their name from "Indians" to "Asian Interlopers", since that's who they really are.

Welcome back CT!

[crimethink]

Very interesting, I was totally ignorant re this...

Both the origin of "Indian" and "America" are not discussed in the Jewsmedia or in "academic" circles. Only in racial and the esoteric, respectively.

[crimethink]

Back in CC's day, most people could not recognize the nationality of brown people because they rarely saw one. It would have been real easy to assume the wagonburners were Indians from India if that's where they thought they landed. The Injuns themselves didn't know any different.

I agree, it's time to change their name from "Indians" to "Asian Interlopers", since that's who they really are.

Welcome back CT!

Interestingly, I've seen plenty of South Asians who are easily mistaken for Mestizos.

"Pre-Columbians" or "First Colonists" work for me, if they are "offended" by "Indian."

But then again, Kennewick Man's folks might have been "First Colonists"...and definitely Pre-Columbians.

(sorry, Indians, The Great Spirit did not create you in situ on "Turtle Island").

[Cebu_4_2]

Back in CC's day, most people could not recognize the nationality of brown people because they rarely saw one. It would have been real easy to assume the wagonburners were Indians from India if that's where they thought they landed. The Injuns themselves didn't know any different.

I agree, it's time to change their name from "Indians" to "Asian Interlopers", since that's who they really are.

Welcome back CT!


Big forgetful point, the Spanish. Or did they not play a part in your small brain? Spanish is everywhere that big boats could travel back then.

[hoarder]

Interestingly, I've seen plenty of South Asians who are easily mistaken for Mestizos.Native Hawaiians, Southeast Asians and Pacific Islanders physically resemble Yaquis and Aztecs much more closely than anyone whose ancestors might have walked the Bering Straight. MexIndians do not look like Koreans or Mongolians at all.
Another point I'd like to make is that Native Hawaiians, Southeast Asians and Pacific Islanders all used the very long dugout canoes and so did the Injuns of our West Coast. Bering Straight my ass. Some other tribes may have arrived that way, though.

[cheka.]

indi-an -- just like tex-an

indi-genous is root word

my hunch is that indian is slang/derivative of indigenous

that's why all of the people of north/south/central america are called 'indi-ans' in 20th century history writings

my question is why has nyc.dc skype decided that indian is bad label - must call them indigenous people. it's the same f-ing thing

(and ridiculous story about c columbus is a lie)

deep thoughts from my workout today :)

[Horn]

in the last few decades there has been a movement to stop calling these groups indians -

why?


in·dig·e·nous
inˈdijənəs/
adjective



originating or occurring naturally in a particular place; native.
"the indigenous peoples of Siberia"





Or Injuns, they've always been eradicated throughout history, they've just been taught to eradicate themselves recently.