Both Bush Presidents Worry Trump Is Blowing Up the G.O.P.

[EE_]

If the Bush's are attacking Trump he must be a tool of the government?, assuming the Trump haters here are Bush lovers.

Both Bush Presidents Worry Trump Is Blowing Up the G.O.P.
By PETER BAKERNOV. 4, 2017

WASHINGTON — President Trump is not a favorite in the extended Bush household. Former President George Bush considers him a “blowhard,” only interested in feeding his own ego. Former President George W. Bush, his son, thinks Mr. Trump fans public anger and came to office without any understanding of the job.

And both worry that Mr. Trump has blown up a Republican Party that they spent two lifetimes building, a party that was once committed to removing boundaries to trade and immigration, promoting democracy and civil society and asserting a robust American leadership role in the world, according to an author who has interviewed them.

A new book on the two Bushes who served in the White House provides a glance at their apprehension over Mr. Trump’s rise to power and what it means for the country. The first book ever written with their cooperation about their relationship, it also opens a window into the only father-and-son tandem to hold the presidency since John Adams and John Quincy Adams.

In “The Last Republicans,” Mark K. Updegrove chronicles an era that feels almost dated in today’s reality-show politics, when the Republican establishment controlled the party and Washington, and when a single family could occupy the presidency and vice presidency for a combined 20 years.

Neither of the two Republican former presidents voted for Mr. Trump — the father voted for Hillary Clinton and the son voted for “none of the above,” as he told Mr. Updegrove.

Indeed, at one point during the 2016 presidential campaign, the younger Mr. Bush confided to the author, “I’m worried that I will be the last Republican president.”

That inspired the title of the book — which will be published Nov. 14 by HarperCollins — as a quote that seemed to carry a double meaning.

“At the time, I think he was concerned that Hillary Clinton would win,” Mr. Updegrove, the author of several books on the presidency, said in an interview. “But if you look at his values and those shared by his father and Ronald Reagan, they are very much in contrast to the values of the Republican Party today, in particular the platform that Donald Trump ran on, which is essentially protectionism and a certain xenophobia.”

In discussing Mr. Trump, the elder president was blunter. “I don’t like him,” Mr. Bush said in May 2016. “I don’t know much about him, but I know he’s a blowhard. And I’m not too excited about him being a leader.” Rather than being motivated by public service, Mr. Bush said Mr. Trump seemed to be driven by “a certain ego.”

The younger Mr. Bush was more circumspect, but also clearly disapproving. The Bushes felt stung by Mr. Trump’s ground-burning attacks that helped destroy the campaign of Jeb Bush, the son and brother of the presidents.

“You can either exploit the anger, incite it,” George W. Bush told Mr. Updegrove, “or you can come up with ideas to deal with it.” Jeb, he said, came up with solutions, “but it didn’t fit with the mood.”

“If you’re angry with the powers that be,” he added, “you’re angry with the so-called establishment, and there’s nothing more established than having a father and brother that have been president.”

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When Mr. Trump first entered the race, Mr. Bush thought he would not last and was surprised by the real estate developer’s success at capturing the nomination. Still, he was not impressed.

When Mr. Trump declared that “I’m my own adviser,” Mr. Bush thought he did not understand the presidency. He also lamented Mr. Trump’s lack of humility. “As you know from looking at my family, it is a certain heritage, that’s what they expect, and we’re not seeing that” in Mr. Trump.

The release of the book comes weeks after the younger Mr. Bush delivered a speech seen as a rebuke of Mr. Trump’s approach to the presidency and the world.

Addressing a conference in New York, Mr. Bush decried what he called the “nativism” of today’s policies and the “casual cruelty” of today’s politics. Without mentioning Mr. Trump by name, Mr. Bush said that “bigotry seems emboldened” and “our politics seems more vulnerable to conspiracy theories and outright fabrication.”

Mr. Updegrove, the former director of the Lyndon Baines Johnson Presidential Library and Museum and now the founding chief executive of the National Medal of Honor Museum, got to know both Bushes in recent years and persuaded them to talk with him for a book on their relationship, a subject that they had been allergic to while their political careers were still active.

The two men disputed Shakespearean assumptions about father-son rivalries and insisted they remained close throughout the younger Mr. Bush’s presidency, despite suspicions about a rift over the Iraq war. But George W. Bush’s parents were clearly disturbed by the influence of Vice President Dick Cheney and neoconservative advisers.

The elder Mr. Bush, Mr. Updegrove reported, counseled his son to consider “shaking up the ticket” in 2004, meaning to replace Mr. Cheney as his running mate — just as the younger Mr. Bush suggested to his father about Vice President Dan Quayle in 1992. Like his father, the son disregarded the advice.

Barbara Bush told Mr. Updegrove that she believed Mr. Cheney changed because of his health troubles, including a heart attack followed by a stent operation shortly after the 2000 election. “I do think he was different,” she said. “I think his heart operation made a difference. I always liked him, but I didn’t like him so much for a while because I thought he hurt George. I wasn’t that fond of him. I think he pushed things a little too far right.”

The younger Mr. Bush resented the implication that anyone was steering him. “The fact that there was any doubt in anyone’s mind about who the president was blows my mind,” he said. He added that Mr. Cheney and Donald H. Rumsfeld, his defense secretary, “didn’t make one fucking decision.”

But he insisted Mr. Cheney served him well and said that the vice president’s sometimes dark reputation was inevitable. “I understand the way the system works,” he said. “Somebody has to be the bad guy.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/04/us/politics/bush-president-book-trump.html

[hoarder]

If the Bush's are attacking Trump he must be a tool of the government?, assuming the Trump haters here are Bush lovers.What's the difference? BushTrumpClintonObama all Jew selected presidents. Any conflict between them is staged.

[EE_]

What's the difference? BushTrumpClintonObama all Jew selected presidents. Any conflict between them is staged.

The global elite/Jews did not want Trump to win. They did everything to stop him. Trump is hated by more Jews then any president in our lifetime.

[hoarder]

The global elite/Jews did not want Trump to win. They did everything to stop him. Trump is hated by more Jews then any president in our lifetime.Oh, bullshit. If they didn't want him to win they would have adjusted the voting machines accordingly.

[EE_]

Oh, bullshit. If they didn't want him to win they would have adjusted the voting machines accordingly.

You just can't admit our country is so much better off then if Hillary had won.

[Cebu_4_2]

You just can't admit our country is so much better off then if Hillary had won.


Hilary couldn't even stand, that's what we need in a president...

[EE_]

Hilary couldn't even stand, that's what we need in a president...

Crooked Hillary and the DNC should give back all the donations to the Bernie supporters she defrauded. He never had a chance to win in a rigged election.
There should be a class action suit.

It's funny that Bush voted for Crooked Hillary, the election rigger.

[Stop Making Cents]

God is using Trump to expose evil. (NFL, Hollywood, Bush family, to name a few). Prayers are being answered while we watch! Amen!

[EE_]

God is using Trump to expose evil. (NFL, Hollywood, Bush family, to name a few). Prayers are being answered while we watch! Amen!

I believe it was divine providence. We almost lost our country forever. There would be no evil/crimes exposed with Hillary. We would have never known about Uranium One, or the Diversity lottery. Our country would have been browned out with illegals and Muslims in just 4 years of Hillary. To the point of no return.

[hoarder]

Hilary couldn't even stand, that's what we need in a president...It's not whether they stand, it's what they stand for.

[Dachsie]

Daddy BushFraud blew up a president. That should be his worry.

[crimethink]

They did everything to stop him.

Which assassination attempts did I miss?

[crimethink]

Our country would have been browned out with illegals and Muslims in just 4 years of Hillary. To the point of no return.

Did I miss the boxcars returning the 25,000,000+ illegals to Mexico?

[EE_]

Which assassination attempts did I miss?

That's not something that is broadcast to the public. Trump has 3X the security of the halfrican.

Your question "did I miss" implies you are hopeful it happens and you don't want to miss it. Sad

[EE_]

Did I miss the boxcars returning the 25,000,000+ illegals to Mexico?

There again, you don't want to "miss it". I miss your Nazi avatar, it suits you so much better.
Nothing is ever quick enough, or good enough. Hate has colored your reasoning, or your perception, sad.

[crimethink]

Your question "did I miss" implies you are hopeful it happens and you don't want to miss it. Sad

Again, you stated: They did everything to stop him.

Obviously not.

[crimethink]

Hate has colored your reasoning, or your perception, sad.

Why do you hate facts?

[hoarder]

Why do you hate facts?Because he's a bagel-muncher.

[Hitch]

Why do you hate facts?

You don't know the facts. Neither do I, or EE. What we do know, is you focus on the negative, where EE has hope for the future.

Here's the thing. Trump is playing the game. He knows the media will not cover anything good he does, so he feeds them distractions. He tweets something stupid, exposes the NFL, or the democrats, hollywood, the list goes on. The media eats that up, and Americans love drama. Then, he can focus on what needs to get done in the background. Trump made millions because Americans love drama.

I think your facts are what you want to believe are facts, not true facts. There's a lot going on that we don't know about, or likely will, know about.

[crimethink]

You don't know the facts. Neither do I, or EE. What we do know, is you focus on the negative, where EE has hope for the future.

Here's the thing. Trump is playing the game. He knows the media will not cover anything good he does, so he feeds them distractions. He tweets something stupid, exposes the NFL, or the democrats, hollywood, the list goes on. The media eats that up, and Americans love drama. Then, he can focus on what needs to get done in the background. Trump made millions because Americans love drama.

I think your facts are what you want to believe are facts, not true facts. There's a lot going on that we don't know about, or likely will, know about.

https://alleged2bdelicious.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/kool-aid-man.jpg

All cults "focus on the positive" (condemning facts as heretic negativity).

[Dogman]

Facts are like assholes, it all depends on individual life's bubbles and viewpoints. Facts are subjunctive, depending on the individual, one see one thing another sees sump thing different.


Fact of life , living long enough to see the difference, some can hope to do, but by that time, one just needs to understand to bukel up and ride the ride. And a good life is a wild ride, both sad along with joy. (mostly sad) (+ recovery time)

;D

[hoarder]

https://alleged2bdelicious.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/kool-aid-man.jpg

All cults "focus on the positive" (condemning facts as heretic negativity).The just think positive religion.

[Dogman]

The just think positive religion. Kool aid can wear off, if one has a true rational mind.

Then you have some chasing their own tails. And any dog catching their own tail and bites, will find , maybe not a good thing and the other dogs will think Idiot, as they chase their tails.

There is a parable in that somewhere .

[Twisted Titan]

Crooked Hillary and the DNC should give back all the donations to the Bernie supporters she defrauded. He never had a chance to win in a rigged election.
There should be a class action suit.

It's funny that Bush voted for Crooked Hillary, the election rigger.


Berne is in the tank and was bought off for a summer home and make her wife's charges go away.

He won't do shit against the clintooons

[Hitch]

https://alleged2bdelicious.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/kool-aid-man.jpg

All cults "focus on the positive" (condemning facts as heretic negativity).

One thing I actually admire and respect about you, CT, is your argumentative and abrasive nature. I think it's alright, and causes people to think.

However, this response to my post, just shows you have no argument, you concede to what I've said....and you are diverting the discussion to shaming tactics, (positive coolaid).

Give me a fucking break. Insulting me and others here is beneath you.

[Dogman]

One thing I actually admire and respect about you, CT, is your argumentative and abrasive nature. I think it's alright, and causes people to think.

However, this response to my post, just shows you have no argument, you concede to what I've said....and you are diverting the discussion to shaming tactics, (positive coolaid).

Give me a fucking break. Insulting me and others here is beneath you. Both partys need to be blown up, take the good from both sides, then use that as a base to get things back on track. Everyone happy ? = No, But what is good for the majority , other than the filthy rich can not help be but good.

Politics should be for the good for the majority, not just the rich few. With exceptions of the lazy asses that if want benefits need to do some kind of work for so ciety. Not hard in thought , politically = Never happen. Money can buy or influence votes.

But for dam sure, the very rich should not dictate what our country does, as they do now. Rich = corporations/individuals that can pay out of pocket change = what you earn in your living life.

Less than 5% probably less than 1% but own and rule dam near 90% of everything or out right own it.

[EE_]

Berne is in the tank and was bought off for a summer home and make her wife's charges go away.

He won't do shit against the clintooons

I don't expect Bernie to do anything, his donors need to demand, sue for damages for being defrauded by Clinton and the DNC. Wouldn't you want your money back?

[vacuum]

Which assassination attempts did I miss?

The thing with Trump is that it always seemed like he was about to implode, basically during the entire campaign. He caused self-inflicted wounds, seemingly made really bad decisions, etc. Then after he got elected, it looked like he was either going to be impeached or imminently prosecuted.

I think many in the deep state saw he was about to self destruct and were waiting for that to happen. If they knew what they know now, they would have assassinated him long ago. But they always had one more thing in the works that they were convinced would take care of it.

They did steal a few states: New Hampshire, Colorado, Virginia, Maine. They thought that was going to be enough.

Afte the election, they knew they had Manafort, Flynn, Rosenstein, Comey, McCabe, and some stuff they set up with Kushner and Don Jr, and had half the country thoroughly brainwashed. They thought they had a clear path to impeachment.

Simply put, there was never a time when they felt cornered and like they were definitely going to lose. They underestimated him because he acts like a retard who has brain damage.

At this point they are cornered though. And we just saw 2 huge false flag shootings.

[EE_]

Both partys need to be blown up, take the good from both sides, then use that as a base to get things back on track. Everyone happy ? = No, But what is good for the majority , other than the filthy rich can not help be but good.

Politics should be for the good for the majority, not just the rich few. With exceptions of the lazy asses that if want benefits need to do some kind of work for so ciety. Not hard in thought , politically = Never happen. Money can buy or influence votes.

But for dam sure, the very rich should not dictate what our country does, as they do now. Rich = corporations/individuals that can pay out of pocket change = what you earn in your living life.

Less than 5% probably less than 1% but own and rule dam near 90% of everything or out right own it.

Trump is blowing up both parties!

[Hitch]

Trump is blowing up both parties!

Rgr that! And it's what needs to be done, for the better of our country!

[Dogman]

Trump is blowing up both parties! Trump is a very rich idiot when it comes to what he has never done..

Nuff said..But I will and can say he reminds me of that movie.

'Idiocy'

Long day, may the major lunatics not pressurize me in the morning. (Rational thoughts)

For all may your week be a good one for all. (Despite cases of mind lock)

;D

[EE_]

Trump is a very rich idiot when it comes to what he has never done..

Nuff said..But I will and can say he reminds me of that movie.

'Idiocy'

Long day, may the major lunatics not pressurize me in the morning. (Rational thoughts)

For all may your week be a good one for all. (Despite cases of mind lock)

;D

Can't be too much an idiot to become a billionaire building the best hotels, resorts, world class golf courses, and win the most brutal election in history.
I know, you don't like his tone.

[crimethink]

I'd like to note that Devin Patrick Kelley, the killer in Texas, liked the "Power of Positivity" on his Fagbook page:

https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2017/11/kelley5.png?w=575&h=531

:rolleyes:

[crimethink]

One thing I actually admire and respect about you, CT, is your argumentative and abrasive nature. I think it's alright, and causes people to think.

However, this response to my post, just shows you have no argument, you concede to what I've said....and you are diverting the discussion to shaming tactics, (positive coolaid).

Give me a fucking break. Insulting me and others here is beneath you.

"Insulting you" was not my purpose. It is an illustrated reminder of the lack of discernment involved.

Con man Trump demonstrably betrayed Americans, yet many still want to place faith in him: "I think your facts are what you want to believe are facts, not true facts. There's a lot going on that we don't know about, or likely will, know about." The translation of that is "we must place blind faith in him because he 'has more information than we do'."

Have you ever studied how cults operate, and, especially, how their "leaders" retain power?

[Stop Making Cents]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/05/george-w-bush-bashes-cheney-rumsfeld-didnt-make-one-f-decision/


The 43rd president pushed back against critics who claim he did not make major decisions during his presidency, and that former Vice President Dick Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld made most of the important decisions in the White House.
They “didn’t make one f****** decision,” Bush claimed. “The fact that there was any doubt in anyone’s mind about who the president was, blows my mind.”

[Jewboo]

Trump is blowing up both parties!


https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1509/60/1509600276506.png

[Twisted Titan]

The thing with Trump is that it always seemed like he was about to implode, basically during the entire campaign. He caused self-inflicted wounds, seemingly made really bad decisions, etc. Then after he got elected, it looked like he was either going to be impeached or imminently prosecuted.

I think many in the deep state saw he was about to self destruct and were waiting for that to happen. If they knew what they know now, they would have assassinated him long ago. But they always had one more thing in the works that they were convinced would take care of it.

They did steal a few states: New Hampshire, Colorado, Virginia, Maine. They thought that was going to be enough.

Afte the election, they knew they had Manafort, Flynn, Rosenstein, Comey, McCabe, and some stuff they set up with Kushner and Don Jr, and had half the country thoroughly brainwashed. They thought they had a clear path to impeachment.

Simply put, there was never a time when they felt cornered and like they were definitely going to lose. They underestimated him because he acts like a retard who has brain damage.

At this point they are cornered though. And we just saw 2 huge false flag shootings.








Law 21: Play A Sucker To Catch A Sucker — Seem Dumber Than Your Mark

48 Laws Of Power Summary Series




Judgement


“No one likes feeling stupider than the next person. The trick, then, is to make your victims feel smart — and not just smart, but smarter than you are. Once convinced of this, they will never suspect that you may have ulterior motives.”

Keys To Power




This feeling is especially prevalent in the insecure who feel inferior to their surroundings. Many will condemn the skills and accomplishments of others by using justifications that placate their ego and satisfy their self worth. They’ll say things like,



“She only has book knowledge, I got real knowledge.”

“His parents paid for his educational, if only my parents had the money.”

“If only I was that smart.”

“if only I was as fast and athletic as him.”




We see this every single day, people will downplay the talents, skills and achievements of others to avoid the pain of feeling bad about their lack of character, skills and accomplishments. People do not like to feel like they are inferior to others.





What if we flipped it around? What if we used peoples achievements and skills to push us to greater heights, instead of using negativity to protect our self worth. Once you figure out how to take positive inspiration from people who ‘make it’, you set yourself up for even greater heights of fulfillment and success. Find someone who looks like you who has what you have, and you grant yourself the mental fortitude and momentum of self belief that it can be done. Everyone is their own unique individual and no situation will be exactly the same, but at least you have a rough blueprint to follow that may produce similar results to what you want.


“Given how important the idea of intelligence is to most peoples vanity, it is critical never inadvertently to insult or impugn a persons brain power. Subliminally reassure people that they are more intelligent than you are, or even that you are a bit of a moron, and you can run rings around them. The feeling of intellectual superiority you give them will disarm their suspicion muscles.”



By successfully ‘Conceal Your Intentions’ (Law 3) (https://medium.com/@asandalis/law-3-conceal-your-intentions-48-laws-of-power-904195288040#.s28t7rxu4) and ‘Always Say Less Than Necessary’ (Law 4) (https://medium.com/@asandalis/law-4-always-say-less-than-necessary-48-laws-of-power-summary-7f12b20fb25b#.k3yitmc8i) you set yourself for constructive positive social interactions, especially when you’re in the presence of someone with insecure tendencies who may be threatened and offended by your boasting of achievements.




You don’t have to always use your intelligence to conceal your skill set and ‘seem dumber than your mark’. You can shape your taste, sophistication and clothing in a manner that causes people to feel as if they’re more sophisticated and superior to you. When a person feel’s more superior to you they feel more comfortable — their guard drops down and they don’t have to watch what they say and do so much because they don’t perceive you as a threat.


“In general, then, always make people believe they are smarter and more sophisticated than you are. They will keep you around because you make them feel better about themselves, and the longer you are around, the more opportunities you will have to deceive them.”



Note, Greene sais “more opportunities to deceive”, phrasing like this is why a many people see this book as ‘manipulative’ and even ‘evil’. Most read statements like this out of context, making it very easy to believe this. Part of my interpretations of the laws is aiding in removing ambiguity and adding secondary meanings to what lines like this can potentially mean.


For this example, a consequence of this law doesn’t have to be for the purpose of deception. By making those around you feel better through tactful behaviour modification, “the more opportunities you will have to potentially excel and climb the hierarchy”. That is a potential secondary meaning that may add clarity and value to some.






Reversal



“To reveal the true nature of your intelligence rarely pays; you should get in the habit of downplaying it at all times.”



There is a time a place for everything. Sometimes exaggerating and boasting your skills and talents is needed when you are trying to accomplish something that is based off leaving a positive impression of your achievements and character. Example, an interview for a scholarship or a basketball tryout is usually not a good time to downplay your talents.
However Greene notes a thought provoking point.


“If people inadvertently learn the truth — that you are actually much smarter than you look — they will admire you more for being discreet than for making your brilliance show.”


By not displaying acts of audacious braggadociosness you become like the humble warrior that quietly get’s the work done without need for credit or fanfare. This is an admirable trait that demands respect in almost everyone. As your peers and superiors naturally find the skills and talents you possess, your reputation increases.


“There is, however, one situation when it pays to do the opposite — when you can cover up a deception with a show of intelligence. In matters of smarts as in most things, appearances are what count. If you seem to have authority and knowledge, people will believe what you say. This can be very useful in getting you out of a scrap.”




Originally Posted

[crimethink]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/05/george-w-bush-bashes-cheney-rumsfeld-didnt-make-one-f-decision/


The 43rd president pushed back against critics who claim he did not make major decisions during his presidency, and that former Vice President Dick Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld made most of the important decisions in the White House.
They “didn’t make one f****** decision,” Bush claimed. “The fact that there was any doubt in anyone’s mind about who the president was, blows my mind.”

What mind, Dumbya?

The "decisions" you made on 9/11/01, while Dick Cheney commanded the non-response to hijacked airliners?

[Neuro]

What mind, Dumbya?

The "decisions" you made on 9/11/01, while Dick Cheney commanded the non-response to hijacked airliners?

Sure he made all the decisions...
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