What happens when we die? Ask the brain

[singular_me]

atheistic scientism baffled because it rather would want to keep the brain (matter) separated from the psyche/consciousness (metaphysics) . But as this doctors puts it: both evolve in synch, they are not separated, no egg-chicken dilemma... merging of science and spirituality just made another step ahead

While being declared clinically dead, people who came back say that there is no fear, they accepted that their own death while aware of what was going on.
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People who suffered cardiac arrest shows that human consciousness exists, even after the brain is dead. In the video above, Parnia makes the following claim.

Human mind and consciousness – that thing that makes us who we are, our self – does not become annihilated, when we’ve gone beyond the biological threshold of death.

Parnia and his colleagues have been studying what happens to consciousness and the brain during the period between physical death and when a person is resuscitated. Being one of the largest studies of this type, their research includes more than 2000 people. These individuals all met the physical criteria for death and were resuscitated. Out of the study subjects that were successfully brought back to life:

40% had a perception of having had awareness.
10% had a very vivid mystical or religious transformative experience.
5% had full visual and auditory awareness, to where they were even able to describe events in the room.
One had awareness for up to 5 minutes after doctors called time of death.

MORE: http://www.wakingtimes.com/2017/11/21/study-2000-cardiac-arrest-patients-demonstrates-consciousness-exists-well-beyond-physical-death/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=s6PYAK1mEU4

Sam Parnia What Is Consciousness?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhMJHIYgPJs

[Twisted Titan]

When The Decree has gone forth that you are to die 6 things happen


1 Your period of grace is over.
2 Your mortal remains are returned to where they come from(the Earth)
3 Your Breath of Life is returned to the Original Owner (The Most High)
4 Your Spirit self is Taken before The Great Throne to give account for what was done for the time you were allotted breath
5 Your Judgment is rendered and The Sentence is carried out........ There will be NO APPEALS
6 Your Taken into Abraham's bosom or The Place of Torments.

[Joshua01]

Your Judgment is rendered and The Sentence is carried out........ There will be NO APPEALS


That sounds really scary actually!

[Twisted Titan]

Your Judgment is rendered and The Sentence is carried out........ There will be NO APPEALS


That sounds really scary actually!

It is .


When we think about it.

No matter what has happened....you have some sort of recourse. ..whether it succeeds is not the point

You have the ability to take some sort of action and you can hope in the off chance it could go your way.

That is not the case.

There is no do overs
I made a mistake
I didn't understand.


That is why the book says over and over

DO NOT BE DIECIVED

your ignorance of The Law will not be accepted as a excuse.

Your mind and my mind can't understand it ....cause we never seen it.

But we will.

All of us will....that a personal promise

[singular_me]

I wanted to start a new thread about this, but then decided to post it here as it also is about the mystery of the brain. I seriously think that more people should do it, but since it is very potent, it surely is not for everybody. I'd figure that if 30% of population could see how the spiritual affects the material, the world would start really changing.

There are legal ayahuasca churches in america, if you are interested in this extremely healing out of body experience.

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'Some of Brazil's violent offenders are being offered the opportunity for radical rehabilitation via the powerful psychedelic experience of the ayahuasca ceremony.... In recent years, ayahuasca has piqued the interest and curiosity of people in the rest of the world, culminating in an ayahuasca tourism industry throughout Amazonian regions of Central America. As ayahuasca’s international popularity has grown, so has research into its therapeutic uses. The plant has shown potential to help people recover from trauma, PTSD, addiction and depression, as well as cancers and other afflictions.'
Read more: Brazil Is Giving Its Prisoners One of the World’s Most Powerful Psychedelics as Part of the Rehabilitation Process https://www.alternet.org/drugs/brazil-offers-ayahuasca-healing-some-its-prisoners

[Neuro]

I've done it a few times, gives an interesting perspective on reality...

[singular_me]

how many times exactly.?

anybody who has done it several times, more than 5x, does no longer process "fear" the same way and will develop a great sense of personal responsibility and a much deeper connection with Nature/Universe... hence spends more time working on solutions rather than blame games.

Strange you do not talk like Max Igan yet...

But keep at it, thats a good beginning

max igan: jungle medicines

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3NMicoQPtM



I've done it a few times, gives an interesting perspective on reality...

[old steel]

You don't die, you just shift into a higher consciousness. 4D/5D or whatever your earth experiences allowed you to grow and accept as truth so don't get to tied up into this insane fucked up world.

[Neuro]

how many times exactly.?

anybody who has done it several times, more than 5x, does no longer process "fear" the same way and will develop a great sense of personal responsibility and a much deeper connection with Nature/Universe... hence spends more time working on solutions rather than blame games.

Strange you do not talk like Max Igan yet...

But keep at it, thats a good beginning

max igan: jungle medicines

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3NMicoQPtM

What bullshit, everyone responds differently, there is no quantity response to Ayuhuasca, I know some who have gotten profound life changing mindsets after 1 ceremony (I did), and I know others who didn't change much after dozens, even though they claim they did. Instead of using the experience to actually realize changes in their lives, they make the experience their life. I liked what the 'fire master', who had done the ceremony 100's of times, said, this is not reality [ceremony], reality is everyday life, this you do to get better in touch with yourself, connecting your mind with your soul, so that you can deal with reality better.

And really the purpose of it is not to create a world of Max Igans, people have different outlooks. Edit: Having said that I just started listening to Max Igans cast, where he mentions how some people had difficulty re-entering the matrix, and yes I can see if you have lived in the center of corporocrazy pursuing careers selling your soul to the beast on a daily basis. I can see that it would be difficult to re-integrate into that, and I can see that a subset of these people makes the ceremony circuit their lives, just trying to get away from the beast. Now I continue listening

To answer your question I did 5 over the last 2 years. The following three after the first profound, were relatively worthless for me, in those I got more benefit from the steam/smoke sauna tent. The last one was a bit more profound, especially as I did Kambo the following day. It becomes interesting when you feel like you prefer to die vs continuing the 'trip'.

I would say it has honed my spiritual quests, which in turn makes me less hesitant in calling out bullshit when spouted from some self appointed experts on the matter, like yourself. Some do it because they don't know better, some do it to intentionally mislead and misdirect.

And you? How many times did you have appointments with 'GRAND mother', did you meet 'Grandfather' too? Did you meet them together? Edit: Igan speaks of iboga as grandfather, in my ceremonies San Pedro was referred to as grandfather.

[Cebu_4_2]

What bullshit, everyone responds differently, there is no quantity response to Ayuhuasca, I know some who have gotten profound life changing mindsets after 1 ceremony (I did), and I know others who didn't change much after dozens, even though they claim they did. Instead of using the experience to actually realize changes in their lives, they make the experience their life. I liked what the 'fire master', who had done the ceremony 100's of times, said, this is not reality [ceremony], reality is everyday life, this you do to get better in touch with yourself, connecting your mind with your soul, so that you can deal with reality better.

And really the purpose of it is not to create a world of Max Igans, people have different outlooks. Edit: Having said that I just started listening to Max Igans cast, where he mentions how some people had difficulty re-entering the matrix, and yes I can see if you have lived in the center of corporocrazy pursuing careers selling your soul to the beast on a daily basis. I can see that it would be difficult to re-integrate into that, and I can see that a subset of these people makes the ceremony circuit their lives, just trying to get away from the beast. Now I continue listening

To answer your question I did 5 over the last 2 years. The following three after the first profound, were relatively worthless for me, in those I got more benefit from the steam/smoke sauna tent. The last one was a bit more profound, especially as I did Kambo the following day. It becomes interesting when you feel like you prefer to die vs continuing the 'trip'.

I would say it has honed my spiritual quests, which in turn makes me less hesitant in calling out bullshit when spouted from some self appointed experts on the matter, like yourself. Some do it because they don't know better, some do it to intentionally mislead and misdirect.

And you? How many times did you have appointments with 'GRAND mother', did you meet 'Grandfather' too? Did you meet them together? Edit: Igan speaks of iboga as grandfather, in my ceremonies San Pedro was referred to as grandfather.

Will this be detected in a drug test if I actually wanted to get a job?

[Ares]

Will this be detected in a drug test if I actually wanted to get a job?

No, it metabolizes relatively quickly. Most drug tests are not designed to detect Ibogaine (Iboga).

[Dogman]

Reminds me of acid , shrooms and mescaline, tho the last two leave your mouth either dry or feeling weard! (Cotton mouth?)

But all trips one has a chance to change yourself, mescaline to me is more of a godhead experience!

Most tests are geared towards thc, heroin, meth or cocaine!

Try a 4way hit of orange mini barrel by yourself from the early 70s wild ride! (Yellow sunshine)

Set and setting is everything!

Repeat I do mean everything!

You will never be the same, for the good or not, but many are better , self examination is huge! Many do not like who they see they are! And change.

And for a dam fact you can while tripping and beyond the trip, which is only the key to unlock yourself to be better than you were before!

But sadly some go nuts , can't handle it or to stupid or afraid to try to change, because while tripping your faults will surface and stair yourself in the eye!

Nuff said!

Interesting thread!

[old steel]

Dogman have you ever done Ayahusca?

[singular_me]

I said 5 times because it it is the average number of ceremonies occurring in a 1 FULL week retreat. which is not that many.

But what you said, Max Igan said it too about existential outlooks. I am referring to a mindset, not that everybody must think alike. That following actions are geared toward Humanity, regardless the goals and their scale. However, anybody who had done it and got serious insight from it, STOP fueling the problems in the world as they are more focused on solutions, ((inner)) solutions at their own level while developing more awareness, that is what I meant. One does not need to think the same way to endorse what is said but it expands thinking processes. I was saying this because I espouse Igan-Icke-Passio and the like thinking which you call disinfo (???). That is where I draw the line.

I drunk the amazonian vine brew 20 times (in Mexico), and every time I received the cosmic and non dual Vibration of the One, extremely tough journey, the spear of the Truth Vibration, but so much healing.. I now walk on the fine line - with the Source - in the middle as much as possible, because most problems in the world come from not grasping the pitfalls duality/polarity aka us vs them. That is how ((they)) get society at every street corner.

You call BS what I mention as facts, numerology in the bible is real, as real as it is in all other belief systems... it is not your reality, but it is really in there. Cosmic Natural Laws do exist too, the knowledge embedded in the pyramids doed not come from bronze age IQs because it reveals astronomical proportions that could not have been known before the telescope among other things, etc, etc.. sorry, you cannot debunk but merely disagree.

PS: I also think that Igan speaks common sense about the world and threats. All conflicts have multi-layers and he goes far deep to peel them off. I for sure encourage anybody to dig deeper every day.

This forum has lost its prime diversity and it is sad, when I come here, all I see is the same polarity destroying the planet.


What bullshit, everyone responds differently, there is no quantity response to Ayuhuasca, I know some who have gotten profound life changing mindsets after 1 ceremony (I did), and I know others who didn't change much after dozens, even though they claim they did. Instead of using the experience to actually realize changes in their lives, they make the experience their life. I liked what the 'fire master', who had done the ceremony 100's of times, said, this is not reality [ceremony], reality is everyday life, this you do to get better in touch with yourself, connecting your mind with your soul, so that you can deal with reality better.

And really the purpose of it is not to create a world of Max Igans, people have different outlooks. Edit: Having said that I just started listening to Max Igans cast, where he mentions how some people had difficulty re-entering the matrix, and yes I can see if you have lived in the center of corporocrazy pursuing careers selling your soul to the beast on a daily basis. I can see that it would be difficult to re-integrate into that, and I can see that a subset of these people makes the ceremony circuit their lives, just trying to get away from the beast. Now I continue listening

To answer your question I did 5 over the last 2 years. The following three after the first profound, were relatively worthless for me, in those I got more benefit from the steam/smoke sauna tent. The last one was a bit more profound, especially as I did Kambo the following day. It becomes interesting when you feel like you prefer to die vs continuing the 'trip'.

I would say it has honed my spiritual quests, which in turn makes me less hesitant in calling out bullshit when spouted from some self appointed experts on the matter, like yourself. Some do it because they don't know better, some do it to intentionally mislead and misdirect.


And you? How many times did you have appointments with 'GRAND mother', did you meet 'Grandfather' too? Did you meet them together? Edit: Igan speaks of iboga as grandfather, in my ceremonies San Pedro was referred to as grandfather.

[Dogman]

Dogman have you ever done Ayahusca?
Sadly no...Back in the day Ayahusca was not on the radar.

One that I did not mention in my post is Salvia, short but very very intense trip, now that was available back when I used to trip.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvia_divinorum

Good shit ! ;D

[Neuro]

I said 5 times because it it is the average number of ceremonies occurring in a 1 FULL week retreat. which is not that many.

But what you said, Max Igan said it too about existential outlooks. I am referring to a mindset, not that everybody must think alike. That following actions are geared toward Humanity, regardless the goals and their scale. However, anybody who had done it and got serious insight from it, STOP fueling the problems in the world as they are more focused on solutions, ((inner)) solutions at their own level while developing more awareness, that is what I meant. One does not need to think the same way to endorse what is said but it expands thinking processes. I was saying this because I espouse Igan-Icke-Passio and the like thinking which you call disinfo (???). That is where I draw the line.
David Icke is definitely disinfo.

I drunk the amazonian vine brew 20 times (in Mexico), and every time I received the cosmic and non dual Vibration of the One, extremely tough journey, the spear of the Truth Vibration, but so much healing.. I now walk on the fine line - with the Source - in the middle as much as possible, because most problems in the world come from not grasping the pitfalls duality/polarity aka us vs them. That is how ((they)) get society at every street

-I wonder how many more ceremonies you need to do before you become humble!

You call BS what I mention as facts, numerology in the bible is real, as real as it is in all other belief systems... it is not your reality, but it is really in there. Cosmic Natural Laws do exist too, the knowledge embedded in the pyramids doed not come from bronze age IQs because it reveals astronomical proportions that could not have been known before the telescope among other things, etc, etc.. sorry, you cannot debunk but merely disagree.

-Why do you consistently bring up subjects that isn't part of the actual discussion at hand, if you want to discuss these things, bring it up in a thread which is appropriate. Further this is something that have been discussed at length, obviously you don't remember the answers given, but really it is your problem. Why instead don't you use the search function dig out the threads and re-read them, instead of constantly spamming the forum.

PS: I also think that Igan speaks common sense about the world and threats. All conflicts have multi-layers and he goes far deep to peel them off. I for sure encourage anybody to dig deeper every day.

-I haven't listen to him too many times, as I don't prefer to listen to too long interviews, but I do think the ones I have listened to have been worthwhile. However I prefer to learn through reading or charts

This forum has lost its prime diversity and it is sad, when I come here, all I see is the same polarity destroying the planet.
Fewer people overall post on forums. We are about 20 regular posters here. This was from the beginning the people that rejected the censorship of GIM primarily re the Jewish Zionist and Freemason question.

[Devonte]

Sadly no...Back in the day Ayahusca was not on the radar.

One that I did not mention in my post is Salvia, short but very very intense trip, now that was available back when I used to trip.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvia_divinorum

Good shit (http://mega-joker-slot.com) ! ;D

Interesting, thanks for the read!