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EE_
16th December 2017, 08:39 PM
Evidence points to Bitcoin being an NSA-engineered psyop to roll out one-world digital currency
Sunday, December 10, 2017 by: Mike Adams

(Natural News) I’m going to assume the readers who make it to this article are well informed enough that I don’t have to go into the history of the global money changers and their desire for a one world currency. (If you don’t yet understand the goal of the globalist banking empire and the coming engineered collapse of the fiat currency system, you’re already about 5,000 posts behind the curve.)

With that as a starting point, it’s now becoming increasingly evident that Bitcoin may be a creation of the NSA and was rolled out as a “normalization” experiment to get the public familiar with digital currency. Once this is established, the world’s fiat currencies will be obliterated in an engineered debt collapse (see below for the sequence of events), then replaced with a government approved cryptocurrency with tracking of all transactions and digital wallets by the world’s western governments.

NSA mathematicians detailed “digital cash” two decades ago

What evidence supports this notion? First, take a look at this document entitled, “How to make a mint: The cryptography of anonymous electronic cash.” This document, released in 1997 — yes, twenty years ago — detailed the overall structure and function of Bitcoin cryptocurrency.

Who authored the document? Try not to be shocked when you learn it was authored by “mathematical cryptographers at the National Security Agency’s Office of Information Security Research and Technology.”

The NSA, in other words, detailed key elements of Bitcoin long before Bitcoin ever came into existence. Much of the Bitcoin protocol is detailed in this document, including signature authentication techniques, eliminating cryptocoin counterfeits through transaction authentication and several features that support anonymity and untraceability of transactions. The document even outlines the heightened risk of money laundering that’s easily accomplished with cryptocurrencies. It also describes “secure hashing” to be “both one-way and collision-free.”

Although Bitcoin adds mining and a shared, peer-to-peer blockchain transaction authentication system to this structure, it’s clear that the NSA was researching cryptocurrencies long before everyday users had ever heard of the term. Note, too, that the name of the person credited with founding Bitcoin is Satoshi Nakamoto, who is reputed to have reserved one million Bitcoins for himself. Millions of posts and online threads discuss the possible identity of Satishi Nakamoto, and some posts even claim the NSA has identified Satoshi. However, another likely explanation is that Satoshi Nakamoto is the NSA, which means he is either working for the NSA is is a sock puppet character created by the NSA for the purpose of this whole grand experiment.

The NSA also wrote the crypto hash used by Bitcoin to secure all transactions

On top of the fact that the NSA authored a technical paper on cryptocurrency long before the arrival of Bitcoin, the agency is also the creator of the SHA-256 hash upon which every Bitcoin transaction in the world depends. As The Hacker News explains. “The integrity of Bitcoin depends on a hash function called SHA-256, which was designed by the NSA and published by the National Institute for Standards and Technology (NIST).” THN also adds:

“If you assume that the NSA did something to SHA-256, which no outside researcher has detected, what you get is the ability, with credible and detectable action, they would be able to forge transactions. The really scary thing is somebody finds a way to find collisions in SHA-256 really fast without brute-forcing it or using lots of hardware and then they take control of the network.” Cryptography researcher Matthew D. Green of Johns Hopkins University said.

In other words, if the SHA-256 hash, which was created by the NSA, actually has a backdoor method for cracking the encryption, it would mean the NSA could steal everybody’s Bitcoins whenever it wants. (Call it “Zero Day.”) That same article, written by Mohit Kumar, mysteriously concludes, “Even today it’s too early to come to conclusions about Bitcoin. Possibly it was designed from day one as a tool to help maintain control of the money supplies of the world.”

And with that statement, Kumar has indeed stumbled upon the bigger goal in all this: To seize control over the world money supply as the fiat currency system crumbles and is replaced with a one-world digital currency controlled by globalists.

Think cryptography is bulletproof? Think again…

Lest you think that the cryptography of cryptocurrency is secure and bulletproof, consider this article from The Hacker News: Researchers Crack 1024-bit RSA Encryption in GnuPG Crypto Library, which states, “The attack allows an attacker to extract the secret crypto key from a system by analyzing the pattern of memory utilization or the electromagnetic outputs of the device that are emitted during the decryption process.”

Note, importantly, that this is a 1024-bit encryption system. The same technique is also said to be able to crack 2048-bit encryption. In fact, encryption layers are cracked on a daily basis by clever hackers. Some of those encryption layers are powering various cryptocurrencies right now. Unless you are an extremely high-level mathematician, there’s no way you can know for sure whether any crypto currency is truly non-hackable.

In fact, every cryptocurrency becomes obsolete with the invention of large-scale quantum computing. Once China manages to build a working 256-bit quantum computer, it can effectively steal all the Bitcoins in the world (plus steal most national secrets and commit other global mayhem at will).


Ten steps to crypto-tyranny: The “big plan” by the globalists (and how it involves Bitcoin)

In summary, here’s one possible plan by the globalists to seize total control over the world’s money supply, savings, taxation and financial transactions while enslaving humanity. (And it all starts with Bitcoin.)

1) Roll out the NSA-created Bitcoin to get the public excited about a digital currency.

2) Quietly prepare a globalist-controlled cryptocurrency to take its place. (JP Morgan, anyone?)

3) Initiate a massive, global-scale false flag operation that crashes the global debt markets and sends fiat currencies down in flames. (Hoax alien invasion, hoax North Korean EMP attack, mass distributed power grid terrorism network, etc.)

4) Blame whatever convenient enemy is politically acceptable (North Korea, “the Russians,” Little Green Men or whatever it takes…).

5) Allow the fiat currency debt pyramid to collapse and smolder until the sheeple get desperate (i.e. Venezuela-style desperation with people eating out of dumpsters).

6) With great fanfare, announce a government-backed cryptocurrency replacement for all fiat currencies, and position world governments as the SAVIOR of humanity. Allow the desperate public to trade in their fiat currencies for official crypto currencies.

7) Outlaw cash and criminalize gold and silver ownership by private citizens. All in the name of “security,” of course.

8) Criminalize all non-official cryptocurrencies such as Bitcoin, crashing their value virtually overnight and funneling everyone into the one world government crypto, where the NSA controls the blockchain. This can easily be achieved by blaming the false flag event (see above) on some nation or group that is said to have been “funded by Bitcoin, the cryptocurrency used by terrorists.”

9) Require embedded RFID or biometric identifiers for all transactions in order to “authenticate” the one-world digital crypto currency activities. Mark of the Beast becomes reality. No one is allowed to eat, travel or earn a wage without being marked.

10) Once absolute control over the new one-world digital currency is achieved, weaponize the government-tracked blockchain to track all transactions, investments and commercial activities. Confiscate a portion of all crypto under the guise of “automated taxation.” In an emergency, the government can even announce negative interest rates where your holdings automatically decrease each day.

With all this accomplished, globalists can now roll out absolute totalitarian control over every aspect of private lives by enforcing financial “blackouts” for those individuals who criticize the government. They can put in place automatic deductions for traffic violations, vehicle license plate taxes, internet taxes and a thousand other oppressive taxes invented by the bureaucracy. With automatic deductions run by the government, citizens have no means to halt the endless confiscation of their “money” by totalitarian bureaucrats and their deep state lackeys.

How do you feel about your Bitcoin now?

https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-12-10-evidence-points-to-bitcoin-being-an-nsa-psyop-roll-out-one-world-digital-currency.html

Ares
16th December 2017, 08:57 PM
Mike Adams is an idiot. I showed his nonsense back in another thread.

This is why Mike Adams is an idiot when it comes to crypto currencies. The paper he touts as "proof" that the government invented crypto currencies fails to mention that their design is a CENTRALIZED model. This diagram is from the very paper Mike Adams linked too and believes is proof the government invented crypto currencies: :rolleyes:


http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9530&d=1513341942

I love this comment from Mike Adams to prove just how stupid he really is:


What evidence supports this notion? First, take a look at this document entitled, “How to make a mint: The cryptography of anonymous electronic cash.” This document, released in 1997 — yes, twenty years ago — detailed the overall structure and function of Bitcoin cryptocurrency.

Bitcoin network:

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9531&d=1513342277

Honestly does this even remotely look similar to how the above diagram shows their model working? Yet this idiot says it details the "structure and function of Bitcoin"? He should stay with what he knows, which is health and wellness. He doesn't have the understanding to delve into the crypto space.

Try as he and Brandon Smith may, they cannot form any logical arguments on how a decentralized system is government controlled. They tried with the cryptography (SHA-256) AES-256 was also created by the government and is used extensively in securing data. Does the fact that the government invented the protocol (and open sourced it by the way) mean that it's insecure or that they control it? Nope.

This takes the cake right here LMAO:


Researchers Crack 1024-bit RSA Encryption in GnuPG Crypto Library

This guy is such a moron he thinks that finding a vulnerability in a LIBRARY (software used to create a private key) is actually breaking the encryption. SHA-256 (which is a hash) isn't even in the same category as RSA. Yet this idiot thinks SHA-256 is vulnerable, which is a hash and occurs in memory and is not dependent upon a library.

Anyway if anyone wants to, they can view the SHA-256 source here, you know to look for those government backdoors.... :rolleyes:

https://github.com/B-Con/crypto-algorithms/blob/master/sha256.c

Neuro
16th December 2017, 09:15 PM
Mike Adams is an idiot. I showed his nonsense back in another thread.

This is why Mike Adams is an idiot when it comes to crypto currencies. The paper he touts as "proof" that the government invented crypto currencies fails to mention that their design is a CENTRALIZED model. This diagram is from the very paper Mike Adams linked too and believes is proof the government invented crypto currencies: :rolleyes:


http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9530&d=1513341942

I love this comment from Mike Adams to prove just how stupid he really is:



Bitcoin network:

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9531&d=1513342277

Honestly does this even remotely look similar to how the above diagram shows their model working? Yet this idiot says it details the "structure and function of Bitcoin"? He should stay with what he knows, which is health and wellness. He doesn't have the understanding to delve into the crypto space.

Try as he and Brandon Smith may, they cannot form any logical arguments on how a decentralized system is government controlled. They tried with the cryptography (SHA-256) AES-256 was also created by the government and is used extensively in securing data. Does the fact that the government invented the protocol (and open sourced it by the way) mean that it's insecure or that they control it? Nope.

But the post above doesn't tout bitcoin as the new world order currency, it says the new world order will crush it, and roll out its own version with bio-metric identifiers where every transaction will be instantly recorded and monitored centrally. It could be done couldn't it? Isn't it possible that they created the opposite, a decentralized cryptocurrency first to create the technology to their own, and then fund its ascent, to finally destroy it and introduce their own centralized version utilizing all the technology created during its ascent?

Ares
16th December 2017, 09:20 PM
But the post above doesn't tout bitcoin as the new world order currency, it says the new world order will crush it, and roll out its own version with bio-metric identifiers where every transaction will be instantly recorded and monitored centrally. It could be done couldn't it? Isn't it possible that they created the opposite, a decentralized cryptocurrency first to create the technology to their own, and then fund its ascent, to finally destroy it and introduce their own centralized version utilizing all the technology created during its ascent?

Then you have to ask yourself a couple of questions, and see which one makes more sense.

1.) The state writes up a white paper detailing a method for digital currencies back in 1997 which is centralized in nature and they relinquish zero control over the protocol.

or

2.) The state writes up a white paper detailing a method for digital currencies back in 2009 which is decentralized in nature and they relinquish 100% of their control and people start viewing money and the states role in it in a different light.


Which one makes more sense?

EE_
16th December 2017, 09:23 PM
Mike Adams is an idiot. I showed his nonsense back in another thread.

This is why Mike Adams is an idiot when it comes to crypto currencies. The paper he touts as "proof" that the government invented crypto currencies fails to mention that their design is a CENTRALIZED model. This diagram is from the very paper Mike Adams linked too and believes is proof the government invented crypto currencies: :rolleyes:


I believe you...are you also saying there's no way the NSA is involved in cryptos, or this is the beginning of the roll out of a global digital currency.
They already got you all to stand in line for the chip (iPhone).

Ares
16th December 2017, 09:27 PM
I believe you...are you also saying there's no way the NSA is involved in cryptos, or this is the beginning of the roll out of a global digital currency.
They already got you all to stand in line for the chip (iPhone).

From a creation perspective I do not believe they are involved in it at all. From a tracking perspective, I believe they have been monitoring the blockchain attempting to track down individuals who use it. Which spurred the creation of Monero, ZCash, DeepOnion and a couple others. Those are totally anonymous crypto currencies, the transactions (to and from address) the amounts transferred, etc are all encrypted in the block chain and only the 2 parties who transacted know the amounts as well as the sender and recipient addresses.

Technology is agnostic meaning it does not care if its used for good or bad. Good people use smartphones for communication, web surfing, a navigation device, monitoring their calorie intake etc. Bad people use it for a tracking device, spy on the communications, as well as navigation function. Just because the features exist does not mean the bad actions for those features were it's intended design attribute.

madfranks
16th December 2017, 09:30 PM
The OP scenario cannot happen without a one-world government in place, which isn’t going to happen, at least not in our lifetimes.

EE_
16th December 2017, 09:34 PM
From a creation perspective I do not believe they are involved in it at all. From a tracking perspective, I believe they have been monitoring the blockchain attempting to track down individuals who use it. Which spurred the creation of Monero, ZCash, DeepOnion and a couple others. Those are totally anonymous crypto currencies, the transactions (to and from address) the amounts transferred, etc are all encrypted in the block chain and only the 2 parties who transacted know the amounts as well as the sender and recipient addresses.

Technology is agnostic meaning it does not care if its used for good or bad. Good people use smartphones for communication, web surfing, a navigation device, monitoring their calorie intake etc. Bad people use it for a tracking device, spy on the communications, as well as navigation function. Just because the features exist does not mean the bad actions for those features were it's intended design attribute.

I think the NSA is very much involved in cryptos and the NWO currency is almost here. I also believe the bad people will get their way. The sad part is, I talk to enough people that really don't care what is going on in our country. The bad people love that.

cheka.
16th December 2017, 09:42 PM
The OP scenario cannot happen without a one-world government in place, which isn’t going to happen, at least not in our lifetimes.

with all due respect - imo it is here, been here. and that includes almost all currencies and banks too

see bailouts and swaps for proof. frbny 'saved' numerous so-called competitors over the last decade. huge farce promoted by charlatan-rickards -- the currency war meme

crimethink
16th December 2017, 09:42 PM
While it could be a sham to give credibility to the product, the Federal regime and the EUSSR are freaking out about digital currencies to the point of legislation. At this point, I'm convinced Bitcoin is a legitimate tool "they" don't like. Would I stake my life on that position, though? NOPE.

As for Bitcoin mining, it's already well-known Ft. Meade is the largest consumer of electricity in the State of Maryland, and, I imagine the Utah Data Center is likewise in Utah. A whole lotta computing power there, for various purposes...

Ares
16th December 2017, 09:46 PM
I think the NSA is very much involved in cryptos and the NWO currency is almost here. I also believe the bad people will get their way. The sad part is, I talk to enough people that really don't care what is going on in our country. The bad people love that.

They can try to shit out their own crypto currency but it's going to compete with Bitcoin and other cryptos. There are nations that are not friendly with TPTB, if they set up an Exchange, or allow crypto trading within their borders or deal with crypto currencies they will become very wealthy. I'm not so sure they'll be able to get their way. There are too many ways to hide your transactions (which they hate) in the crypto space.

For example, say I take my BTC holdings, I send them all to an Exchange and convert them to Monero, or DeepOnion. I withdraw them (Monero or DeepOnion), how does the state know what I have done with my Bitcoins? Answer is they don't know.

If push comes to shove, I can always leave the states taking my purchasing power with me to whatever country allows for crypto currencies since cryptos have no border I can go where I am appreciated. I can memorize a phrase, delete the wallet and app from my computers, smartphone etc. Go through an inspection they'll never see it and once I arrive at my destination restore from the backup phrase and I have access to all of my funds again.

crimethink
16th December 2017, 09:48 PM
The OP scenario cannot happen without a one-world government in place, which isn’t going to happen, at least not in our lifetimes.

A one-world government has existed for over a century. The various provinces, purported to be "countries," are merely instruments of those who really run this planet. Occasionally, one or more of these provinces plays a game with the other provinces, leading to war. On rarer occasions one of the provinces becomes destabilized and falls into the hands of actual opposition, leading to World War II, the Gulf Wars, and quite possibly the thing with North Korea.

The worldwide campaign against "racism" (White genocide) is the most obvious evidence of the existence of this one-world regime...the one-world monetary system (SDR, USD, and the almost total coordination of other fiat currencies)...as well as "intellectual property" protection yet more evidence.

Mystery Babylon is here. It's been here. America is the foundation of it...her "money" is the universal currency, her "culture" the universal culture (even our "enemies" love Talmudvision and Holowood)...the merchants of the Earth depend upon Pax Americana, and they will wail when she falls.

Ares
16th December 2017, 09:52 PM
While it could be a sham to give credibility to the product, the Federal regime and the EUSSR are freaking out about digital currencies to the point of legislation. At this point, I'm convinced Bitcoin is a legitimate tool "they" don't like. Would I stake my life on that position, though? NOPE.

As for Bitcoin mining, it's already well-known Ft. Meade is the largest consumer of electricity in the State of Maryland, and, I imagine the Utah Data Center is likewise in Utah. A whole lotta computing power there, for various purposes...

You can view hashing distribution within the blockchain. The vast majority of the pools that are mining blocks are located in China. (I believe the top 3 are all Chinese Bitcoin mining pools)

https://blockchain.info/pools

Russia is also dumping $100,000,000 to build Bitcoin mining facilities there they are wanting to capture 1/3rd of the network hash rate. They have cheaper power than the Chinese do. 3-5 cents per kilowatt hour.

singular_me
17th December 2017, 12:55 AM
achieving the freedom of the mind before material freedom is essential, the bitcoin game is all coordinated between several major players. Blockchain or not most of the bitcoins are already in ((their)) hands or the globalists supporting them. Govs will eventually create their own blockchains. When materialism isnt backed up by metaphysics it enslaves, just look back at history, because materialism is an illusion, there is no security because knowledge ever progresses. Seeking for security is a flight to nowhere. It is only when people will understand this that science, economics and metaphysics will merge.

china, the beacon of freedom, bitcoin mined by slaves? Bitcoin will be proven a very costly distraction....er deathtrap. Max Igan nails it at 10mins or so, MUST listen. Everything is designed to satisfy the status quo... A lock down of phenomenal proportion is coming, no if but when
We Are Being Modified For The Smart Grid (Igan)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oprO0OKO6rU&t=214s

yeah, just follow bitcoin incredible boom at your own risks, not derailing the thread but showing the shortsightedness of money/profit hunting.

Orwell's Dystopian CCTV Surveillance State Comes to Life in China - Who's Next
video included
http://www.wakingtimes.com/2017/12/15/orwells-dystopian-cctv-surveillance-state-comes-life-china-whos-next/

No Need To Wait – Dystopia Is Almost Upon Us
http://truepublica.org.uk/united-kingdom/no-need-to-wait-dystopia-is-almost-upon-us/

The Lunatic Technocracy to Introduce Truth Algorithms for Us
https://journal-neo.org/2017/12/01/the-lunatic-technocracy-to-introduce-truth-algorithms-for-us/

The Carnegie Council Calls for Global Governance to Regulate Geoengineering
https://www.activistpost.com/2017/12/the-carnegie-council-calls-for-global-governance-to-regulate-geoengineering.html


GENERATION ZAPPED OFFICIAL TRAILER

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7R4gKs8ViI

WI-FRIED - Top Ten Things You Need to Know about Wireless Radiation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOOlNv50P_g

Bigjon
17th December 2017, 04:03 AM
The OP scenario cannot happen without a one-world government in place, which isn’t going to happen, at least not in our lifetimes.

I think It's already happened.
One Bank to rule them all.

woodman
17th December 2017, 06:13 AM
They can try to shit out their own crypto currency but it's going to compete with Bitcoin and other cryptos. There are nations that are not friendly with TPTB, if they set up an Exchange, or allow crypto trading within their borders or deal with crypto currencies they will become very wealthy. I'm not so sure they'll be able to get their way. There are too many ways to hide your transactions (which they hate) in the crypto space.

For example, say I take my BTC holdings, I send them all to an Exchange and convert them to Monero, or DeepOnion. I withdraw them (Monero or DeepOnion), how does the state know what I have done with my Bitcoins? Answer is they don't know.

If push comes to shove, I can always leave the states taking my purchasing power with me to whatever country allows for crypto currencies since cryptos have no border I can go where I am appreciated. I can memorize a phrase, delete the wallet and app from my computers, smartphone etc. Go through an inspection they'll never see it and once I arrive at my destination restore from the backup phrase and I have access to all of my funds again.

As others have stated, the world government is and has been in place. Bitcoin has purchasing power for only as long as they allow it. The reason I say this is that 'they' own all the corporations that mean anything. They own the mines, the exchanges and anything else that really matters in the world of finance and trade and production. They will allow bitcoin to purchase from them until they decide not to. Once they decide not to accept it as payment, it is over. The ultimate digital currency is not yet here. It is certainly in the making though. It is like the Lord of the Rings; One ring to rule them all......and if you think they will allow bitcoin or any digital currency to function as a means of economic freedom for the masses, I believe you are mistaken. I wish you were right.

Ares
17th December 2017, 06:24 AM
As others have stated, the world government is and has been in place. Bitcoin has purchasing power for only as long as they allow it. The reason I say this is that 'they' own all the corporations that mean anything. They own the mines, the exchanges and anything else that really matters in the world of finance and trade and production. They will allow bitcoin to purchase from them until they decide not to.

No they don't, if they did there wouldn't be conflicts for rare earth metals, oil, etc.


Once they decide not to accept it as payment, it is over. The ultimate digital currency is not yet here. It is certainly in the making though. It is like the Lord of the Rings; One ring to rule them all......and if you think they will allow bitcoin or any digital currency to function as a means of economic freedom for the masses, I believe you are mistaken. I wish you were right.

China, Venezuela, have not had much luck fighting crypto currencies. These people are not god, and they do not control all. I think some of you keep forgetting that. They are people, and people make mistakes and are short sighted. No one can tell you the future.

woodman
17th December 2017, 06:34 AM
No they don't, if they did there wouldn't be conflicts for rare earth metals, oil, etc.



China, Venezuela, have not had much luck fighting crypto currencies. These people are not god, and they do not control all. I think some of you keep forgetting that. They are people, and people make mistakes and are short sighted. No one can tell you the future.


For a while I was onboard with the idea that the state, by and large, would actually go to bat in order to protect bitcoin. The reason being that those in control and all their myriad cyborgs in the deep state are certainly vested in cryptos and would love to see their value appreciate. I don't neccessarilly see this as being the way it will play out now. As far as the chaos we see and the seeming rivalries between plantations; I don't think they are too concerned about these kind of things getting out of control. Order through chaos and all that. They do love their little experiments too. It must fascinate them to watch Goyim die in horrible ways such as what occurred under the Bolshevik regime in the Soviet Union.

Ares
17th December 2017, 06:44 AM
For a while I was onboard with the idea that the state, by and large, would actually go to bat in order to protect bitcoin. The reason being that those in control and all their myriad cyborgs in the deep state are certainly vested in cryptos and would love to see their value appreciate. I don't neccessarilly see this as being the way it will play out now. As far as the chaos we see and the seeming rivalries between plantations; I don't think they are too concerned about these kind of things getting out of control. Order through chaos and all that. They do love their little experiments too. It must fascinate them to watch Goyim die in horrible ways such as what occurred under the Bolshevik regime in the Soviet Union.

If that were the case they wouldn't be attempting to pass oppressive legislation to stop Bitcoin. They do not want it, or like it. The EU is passing laws to try and suppress Bitcoin, U.S. is attempting to do the same with Senate Bill S.1241.

midnight rambler
17th December 2017, 08:50 AM
All original wealth comes out of the ground, therefore bitcoin is not original wealth.

Dogman
17th December 2017, 08:54 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beanie_Babies

In many ways come to mind... ;D

C.Martel
17th December 2017, 09:04 AM
All original wealth comes out of the ground, therefore bitcoin is not original wealth.

What gives value to Bitcoin is the electricity used to find them.

Ares
17th December 2017, 09:10 AM
All original wealth comes out of the ground, therefore bitcoin is not original wealth.

The chips used contain gold and they are used to do the hashing to secure the blockchain. The infrastructure used, as well as not needing a 3rd party to facility the transaction has value.

If you haven't caught on this late in the game, value is subjective and ABSOLUTELY NOTHING has intrinsic value. Humans have used different mediums of exchange throughout human history. This is just an evolutionary step and if it takes the controlling power away from the (((parasites))) I'm going to support it.

midnight rambler
17th December 2017, 09:12 AM
What gives value to Bitcoin is the electricity used to find them.

No.

midnight rambler
17th December 2017, 09:16 AM
The chips used contain gold and they are used to do the hashing to secure the blockchain. The infrastructure used, as well as not needing a 3rd party to facility the transaction has value.

If you haven't caught on this late in the game, value is subjective and ABSOLUTELY NOTHING has intrinsic value. Humans have used different mediums of exchange throughout human history. This is just an evolutionary step and if it takes the controlling power away from the (((parasites))) I'm going to support it.

Bitcoin adherents are grasping at a phantasm. “The chips used contain gold” line is genuinely funny.

Jewboo
17th December 2017, 09:19 AM
... it takes the controlling power away from the (((parasites))) I'm going to support it.

https://cointelegraph.com/images/725_Ly9jb2ludGVsZWdyYXBoLmNvbS9zdG9yYWdlL3VwbG9hZH Mvdmlldy82MDQ3ZjEzMzNmMDA3MmNkMDMxNTMwZDExMzUxYmE2 ZS5qcGc=.jpg

https://www.wisemoneyisrael.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Technology-Israel-keyboard.jpg

:rolleyes: digital shekel

Ares
17th December 2017, 09:19 AM
Bitcoin adherents are grasping at a phantasm. “The chips used contain gold” line is genuinely funny.

The saying that Bitcoin has no value is funny to me. You still have yet to explain how anything coming out of the ground has value. Humans used to use Seashells as a medium of exchange, do they have value?

Ares
17th December 2017, 09:20 AM
https://cointelegraph.com/images/725_Ly9jb2ludGVsZWdyYXBoLmNvbS9zdG9yYWdlL3VwbG9hZH Mvdmlldy82MDQ3ZjEzMzNmMDA3MmNkMDMxNTMwZDExMzUxYmE2 ZS5qcGc=.jpg

https://www.wisemoneyisrael.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Technology-Israel-keyboard.jpg

:rolleyes: digital shekel

Yeah the ledger is private for the owners, but Public for it's users. A true digital Shekal for the goyim. :)

Don't forget to download their wallet:

https://bitcoen.io/img/b1.png

LOL

https://bitcoen.io/

midnight rambler
17th December 2017, 09:31 AM
The saying that Bitcoin has no value is funny to me. You still have yet to explain how anything coming out of the ground has value. Humans used to use Seashells as a medium of exchange, do they have value?

Many moons ago when schools actually provided an education children were taught that (natural) resources consist of textiles, timber, livestock, produce, salt, oil, gas, coal, minerals, metals, etc. I’m thinking that your education may have lacked this concept.

One can use use one of one’s five senses to perceive natural resources while virtual* currency is a figment of the imagination.

*even what everyone calls it defines that it’s NOT real and ONLY exists in cyberspace (and in the imaginations of some people) lol

Ares
17th December 2017, 09:51 AM
Many moons ago when schools actually provided an education children were taught that (natural) resources consist of textiles, timber, livestock, produce, salt, oil, gas, coal, minerals, metals, etc. I’m thinking that your education may have lacked this concept.

Speaking from pure ignorance on your part. If that was the case I sure wouldn't be on a gold and silver forum.


One can use use one of one’s five senses to perceive natural resources while virtual* currency is a figment of the imagination.

Yet you use Federal Reserve Notes without an issue which is nothing more than a figment of a promise to pay from an imaginary entity. :rolleyes: Either you aren't very smart, or you like to preach irony.


*even what everyone calls it defines that it’s NOT real and ONLY exists in cyberspace lol

Doesn't matter what I call it, or don't call it. People (millions probably) have put more faith in it than national currencies. You can sit here on this forum and spout your ignorance on crypto currencies as I sure as hell am not going to stop you. But your only denying yourself the reality for what it is.
Gold and Silver aren't going to do it when the state owns 99% of it and manipulates it whenever it damn well sees fit to sack the little guy.

Have fun using the figment of a promise of an imaginary entity. LOL

midnight rambler
17th December 2017, 09:54 AM
With regard to FRNs, you ASS-U-ME when you post I use FRNs “without an issue.” I routinely advise people I’m ‘paying’ with FRNs that I’m pawning off counterfeit money on them.

Are you as honest with people when YOU use Federal Commercial Paper/Instruments?

There’s a reckoning coming and the prudent will not be putting all their eggs in one basket.

Ares
17th December 2017, 09:57 AM
With regard to FRNs, I routinely advise people I’m ‘paying’ with FRNs that I’m pawning off counterfeit money on them.

So now you see the irony of your statement regarding crypto currencies? Both are imaginary. One deflationary, one inflationary. One centralized, one decentralized.

midnight rambler
17th December 2017, 10:04 AM
It would appear Ares smokes virtual crack. lol

Ares
17th December 2017, 10:26 AM
It would appear Ares smokes virtual crack. lol

It would appear that midnight rambler prefers people using a currency forced upon everyone at the barrel of a gun as well as forced to pay for the privilege.

Tell me midnight how is voluntarily using a medium of exchange without force or coercion a threat to you?

Horn
17th December 2017, 10:50 AM
The saying that Bitcoin has no value is funny to me. You still have yet to explain how anything coming out of the ground has value. Humans used to use Seashells as a medium of exchange, do they have value?

Seashells make good flatwear to cut and eat food with.

With Bitcoin there is No spoon

old steel
17th December 2017, 11:02 AM
Every time there is an article about Bitcoin they always show these shiny gold colored coins with a B on them. Why?

You know Bitcoin really isn't a coin, right?

Ares
17th December 2017, 11:13 AM
Every time there is an article about Bitcoin they always show these shiny gold colored coins with a B on them. Why?

You know Bitcoin really isn't a coin, right?

There was a user on Bitcon talk who made them physical with the private key on a tamper proof hologram on the back. If you redeemed the private key, the hologram would be destroyed and the coin would be worthless.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Casascius_physical_bitcoins

madfranks
17th December 2017, 12:26 PM
There was a user on Bitcon talk who made them physical with the private key on a tamper proof hologram on the back. If you redeemed the private key, the hologram would be destroyed and the coin would be worthless.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Casascius_physical_bitcoinsMore than just Casascius made physical BTC. One of my favorites is the Lealana coins; he actually made his out of silver with gold gilt, rather than Brass like Casascius. It has the same type of hologram on the back, with the private key to the wallet.

https://s33.postimg.org/os1nu32zj/IMG_2118-2.jpg

madfranks
17th December 2017, 12:29 PM
For everyone who thinks bitcoin is a scam, a government psyop, a phantasm, etc., consider this, that bitcoin has actually saved peoples lives, in third world shit holes like Venezuela where some people's only mechanism for purchasing food on the black market has been via bitcoin. It's actually doing good in this world, which says a lot. And if you don't like it, don't use it! You can't say that about the US Dollar/FRN if you live here in the states.

singular_me
17th December 2017, 01:05 PM
irrational exuberance again, madfranks you draw conclusions wayyyyyyyyyyy to fast... we talk again, no if but when

>>The saying that Bitcoin has no value is funny to me << :)

belief in a currency designed by a ghost... is irrational

madfranks
17th December 2017, 01:59 PM
irrational exuberance again, madfranks you draw conclusions wayyyyyyyyyyy to fast... we talk again, no if but when

>>The saying that Bitcoin has no value is funny to me << :)

belief in a currency designed by a ghost... is irrationalIrrational exuberance? You do know that on this forum we talk about money a lot, of course gold and silver but other types. I get that lots of people think BTC is a scam, and that's fine, nobody has to use it. But don't pretend this isn't changing people's lives for the better. What's so hard about that to understand?

crimethink
17th December 2017, 08:58 PM
No they don't, if they did there wouldn't be conflicts for rare earth metals, oil, etc.


Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia Eastasia.

Nearly all such conflicts are friendly competition...when things get ugly for little folks (i.e., war), it's preplanned for geopolitical interests.




China, Venezuela, have not had much luck fighting crypto currencies. These people are not god, and they do not control all. I think some of you keep forgetting that. They are people, and people make mistakes and are short sighted. No one can tell you the future.

They do indeed answer to a literal Devil, who has superhuman intelligence. Does anyone really believe these human devils like Rothschild, Rockefeller, Kissinger, or Soros are really THAT smart, to put all this shit together, and be so successful? I don't.

The Bible's prophecy is coming, and an independent Bitcoin will not survive, no matter how much faith people have in "blockchain technology": "that no one may buy or sell save he that hath the Mark."

crimethink
17th December 2017, 09:00 PM
All original wealth comes out of the ground, therefore bitcoin is not original wealth.

All original wealth comes from God, and His creations, including the Sun...and the Earth.

Bitcoin is a legitimate tool for combat, but, like fiat "money," it is still an invention of men.

Neuro
17th December 2017, 10:36 PM
I think one thing is fairly certain, bitcoin wouldn't be pumped to +$300 Billion (and around $600 Billion total cryptocurrency valuation) without central bank involvement...

Why would they buy into a major part of it?

My guess is that the purpose is to fund the opposition, in order to crush it by defunding it. They may lose "money" doing it, but it isn't much of a problem if you own the printing press.

Then they just use the technology being created the last decade in the creation of the Phoenix.

https://socioecohistory.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/theeconomist-phoenix_get_ready_for_world_currency_by_2018.jpg

Neuro
18th December 2017, 12:42 AM
I think one thing is fairly certain, bitcoin wouldn't be pumped to +$300 Billion (and around $600 Billion total cryptocurrency valuation) without central bank involvement...

Why would they buy into a major part of it?

My guess is that the purpose is to fund the opposition, in order to crush it by defunding it. They may lose "money" doing it, but it isn't much of a problem if you own the printing press.

Then they just use the technology being created the last decade in the creation of the Phoenix.

https://socioecohistory.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/theeconomist-phoenix_get_ready_for_world_currency_by_2018.jpg

It is also very interesting that this currency predicted 30 years ago, in the Rothschild rag the Economist, has an image that closely resembles those used by the cryptocurrencies in vogue today. Not a coincidence, imo!

I think Rothschild agents have been centrally involved in the creation of the cryptomarket boom from the beginning, they are the principal pumpers and dumpers. Probably the Vinklevoss twins got a tip off a few years ago, about the plans re bitcoins, to make a fortune to compensate for having Facebook stolen from them, which is the Rothschild version of "big brother sees you". I think they have +100,000 bitcoins, so they were made billionaires too.

singular_me
18th December 2017, 01:17 AM
seems like my train of thought gets some attention

nothing can beat/stretch the intrinsic value of Earth


All original wealth comes from God, and His creations, including the Sun...and the Earth.

singular_me
18th December 2017, 01:25 AM
well, there must be a black sheep everywhere :)

I call this irrational exuberance based on the evidence that we have entered a dystopian reality and it is mind boggling to see people put their own security bubble while the big picture is falling apart. This is precisely this very mentality that is the root cause of the problem. Eventually we'll have to recognize the identity of the Whole. Freedom only works within non coercive structures and monetarism has just achieved the opposite.


I believe in economics, the zero-sum game. The merging of philosophy, metaphysics and economics. I no longer deal with 'economics" alone, structures are a lot more complex than "competition". More over the ideas I am throwing around were already understood 2000+ years ago. I do not make that anything up.

what I am trying to convey here explains the origins of a power structure that is as old as mankind.



Irrational exuberance? You do know that on this forum we talk about money a lot, of course gold and silver but other types. I get that lots of people think BTC is a scam, and that's fine, nobody has to use it. But don't pretend this isn't changing people's lives for the better. What's so hard about that to understand?

Horn
18th December 2017, 08:10 AM
Irrational exuberance?.. don't pretend this isn't changing people's lives for the better.

Yes, singular Don't you know Bitcoin the new U.S. M@2 market driver.

Every incremental Bitcoin to $ exchange in any individual citizen's hands, means that many more dollars that Trump does not have to build his wall with and needs to get a loan for.

StreetsOfGold
18th December 2017, 09:29 AM
Cashiers in stores are now asking....is your CARD "Chipped"
This is just ONE step away from asking.... is you HAND "Chipped"

Revelation 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Revelation 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

IN, not ON like the plethora of fraudulent new "bibles" which CHANGE (corrupt) THIS to ON to deceive you!!
IN, God's word (the KING JAMES) says IN, the devils garbage "bibles" say ON

It will be IN, that's for CERTAIN!!

madfranks
18th December 2017, 09:52 AM
nothing can beat/stretch the intrinsic value of EarthOf course things can stretch the "intrinsic" value of the earth. Beyond the fact that value is subjective and not intrinsic, it is easy to increase the value of the raw earth. I assume you live in a house or dwelling of some sort, do you think your house is valued the same as raw wood in the forest? The fact that humans labored to harvest and develop raw materials and built you a house out of it is simple proof that it is easy to increase the value of the earth. Otherwise you have to admit that you could live on undeveloped land and value it the same as your home.

madfranks
18th December 2017, 10:01 AM
I believe in economics, the zero-sum game.

Economics is not a zero-sum game, otherwise you cannot explain why the entire world is wealthier today than it was thousands of years ago. Humans have increased the value of the earth, there cannot be any doubt about this.

https://globalciviliansforpeace.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/hdi-trends.png

Jewboo
18th December 2017, 11:11 AM
Economics is not a zero-sum game, otherwise you cannot explain why the entire world is wealthier today than it was thousands of years ago. Humans have increased the value of the earth, there cannot be any doubt about this.


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/e3YdJNfCbOc/maxresdefault.jpg


:rolleyes:

Horn
18th December 2017, 01:06 PM
Franks were refering to his New neighborhood in Colorado, not the gentrified pothole one he came from in New Orleans, which were probably more valuable as its original swamp land 200 years ago.

None of these ofcourse compare to Europe where everything is public and has 0 value to any individual.

Just like Bitcoin.

Horn
18th December 2017, 01:26 PM
https://globalciviliansforpeace.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/hdi-trends.png

Graphics Courtesy of G.I.E.F.

Globalists for an Irrational Exuberance Foundation

madfranks
18th December 2017, 03:16 PM
Ok, so every invention and development of mankind since the beginning of history has added nothing to the value of the world. Why do people work then, if it's all for nothing?

singular_me
18th December 2017, 03:30 PM
you do not understand the side-effect of profits

what earth value? that geoengenering for example is extremely profitable to "some", same could be said about micro wave radiations all over.... How about the GMOs... what value? what do you do with monsanto poisoning the whole planet ??? Thousands of acres of amazonian deforestation for livestock and palm oil... How about eating less meat and quit buying processed foods to address this... what earth value??

and I could go on and on... have countless examples that our civilization has committed utter destruction on earth and is committing suicide by the same token.

that is what happens when one doesnt understand the importance of keeping the balance of the zero-sum game as much as possible.

And you tell me that I am ignorant in economics... ROFLOL..

wake up and smell the coffee, BTC is NOT going to fix this. In fact such an answer of yours is the evidence that exuberance is hypnotizing you.



Economics is not a zero-sum game, otherwise you cannot explain why the entire world is wealthier today than it was thousands of years ago. Humans have increased the value of the earth, there cannot be any doubt about this.

https://globalciviliansforpeace.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/hdi-trends.png

singular_me
18th December 2017, 03:42 PM
that is right, all for nothing... in the materialistic sense of course. Humanity has been farmed for 1000s of years and it is well documented... L@@k at books picture, this is worth a 1000 words. The evidence that value is a perception that we cannot trust, and doing lots of damages

ares and you suffer from the same dichotomy


Ok, so every invention and development of mankind since the beginning of history has added nothing to the value of the world. Why do people work then, if it's all for nothing?

singular_me
18th December 2017, 03:45 PM
thanks Book and this is only the tip of the iceberg. when I have some time I will start a thread about destruction by profits

Madfranks and ares demonstrate as why fiat money was so easy to be enforced... there are many booms out there... LOL


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/e3YdJNfCbOc/maxresdefault.jpg


:rolleyes:

Horn
18th December 2017, 03:56 PM
Ok, so every invention and development of mankind since the beginning of history has added nothing to the value of the world. Why do people work then, if it's all for nothing?

For Zion and proper price assigned to everything smartly.

Only a jew would discuss added value like great value planet, with any exuberance.

It were priceless from the start, not what frankinsense or ramboy "agree" to.

EE_
18th December 2017, 04:21 PM
Funny thing about all this "value" that the world has today, I find so many other people have less value to me.
I can hardly wait to see all the value we have in 20 years.

Jewboo
18th December 2017, 04:37 PM
thanks Book...........................................LOL

http://www.livinghopeoutreachcenter.com/home/180005616/180005616/african-american-girl-white-boy-FC5143-73.jpg

LOL

madfranks
18th December 2017, 05:39 PM
Here’s the problem then. Anyone who believes in a zero-sum economy has to stop using the internet, and this forum then, because your benefit from this worldwide communication network is only possible because of the suffering of some other unfortunate folks. If you care about human suffering, you have to stop using the internet. Also, you have to stop using modern technology altogether because it’s only possible because of human suffering elsewhere.

Horn
18th December 2017, 06:25 PM
How "Centralized" Franks, you'd be better off replacing "value" with "The greater redcoat glory of Dizan"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0Ev2qiY08M&amp;t=32s

Hitch
18th December 2017, 07:11 PM
How about eating less meat

You had me at hello, but lost me at this.

All eating less meat will accomplish, is the further attack on testosterone in men, and the further feminization of society. By design. Eating meat lowers the cholesterol in men, lowers blood pressure, increases testosterone. You want healthy active men? Encourage men to eat meat. That is a fact. If you want more transexuals going into your public restroom to piss, dick in hand for you to view, ban meat, and encourage society to chastise anything men value, because "oh God it's so wrong".

Neuro
18th December 2017, 10:04 PM
http://www.livinghopeoutreachcenter.com/home/180005616/180005616/african-american-girl-white-boy-FC5143-73.jpg

LOL

There is no need for money for you two Lovebird/Mud Hutters ...

https://www.bestparentever.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/mud-hut-original2.jpg

singular_me
18th December 2017, 11:31 PM
first you do not acknowledge what I am saying when proving you completely wrong with your chart.

You comprehension of metaphysics is pretty weak. Man is not an animal but he can choose to behave like one, especially when brainwashed into thinking that he is. Money is okay if not hoarding it, because when doing so, one prevents others from access it, thus causing scarcity. Earth intrinsic value has never and will never change, because Nature's economics is the zero-sum game. She gives evenly. No predators have the monopoly on life... but humans think they have. Really? How about calling this the "fall of man" instead, caused by his own ego?

The German economist Gissell had understood it 1 century ago, that money must continually circulate, one must spend all the money earned. For humans, Nature works in a way to favor GENEROSITY and COOPERATION as opposed to dumb competition. Actually competition encourages slavery/slave wages. Look at the "black problem" it has created in america now. All races/cultures have promoted slavery because people take fraudulent premises for granted, so let alone the idea of getting rid of ((them)).

Jesus is right when saying that Love is the name of the game, respect for creation and cooperation. Just too bad that the NWO has subverted it for its own profit, but it still is the absolute truth, we just have to UNtwist it.

second you do not grasp polarity... (and why the NWO has been winning so far)

the downfall of civilization by profit can teach us something valuable about materialism, and why we must let it go... the same with the internet, it helps spread the word about the bigger scam/illusion that money has created. If you burn yourself with a flame, the lesson is learned... so there is no point in continuing to accept suffering? Yeah, because it has always been so ???

Just like aikido, using the adversary weakness to one's advantage. Internet is not the problem but the MIND... destruction by profit is the result of a faulty premise. Do guns or people kill?

Please note that I am not posting that much anymore on here because there are many people who start getting it and I spend more time being part of the next trend, and even hope to work for a international internet firm (crossing my fingers and toes) that has 8000 films/docs online about the realities (the very good and the very ugly) of this world.

conclusion: the merging of metaphysics, science and economics is inevitable of we wish to survive as a species... but cyborgs are waiting in the shadow and let me tell you: cyborgs do not give a damn about money but farming our DNA... the ultimate aftermath of 5000 years of civilization... all this suffering for that/what?

Back to square one


Here’s the problem then. Anyone who believes in a zero-sum economy has to stop using the internet, and this forum then, because your benefit from this worldwide communication network is only possible because of the suffering of some other unfortunate folks. If you care about human suffering, you have to stop using the internet. Also, you have to stop using modern technology altogether because it’s only possible because of human suffering elsewhere.

singular_me
19th December 2017, 12:38 AM
passion for what one does and principles of non-coercion are what the Universe has always had in the store for us. Man is just not an animal, and thinking otherwise is atheism

The Truth Vibration


There is no need for money for you two Lovebird/Mud Hutters ...

Neuro
19th December 2017, 02:06 AM
passion for what one does and principles of non-coercion are what the Universe has always had in the store for us. Man is just not an animal, and thinking otherwise is atheism

The Truth Vibration

Enjoy your mudhut that is the best you can achieve without a medium of exchange. No cement or nails for you.

We are a soul that has a mind and a body, and certainly our souls and minds are different than any animal.

singular_me
19th December 2017, 02:21 AM
brainwashing into OVERconsuming is very real. All good for the NWO.

the issue you mention has a lot more to do with GMOs, MSGs, chemicals, in foods and in the air, vaccines, fluoride, etc, it has nothing to do with meat, especially since essential amino acids are also found in plants, it is scientifically proven. As said in a previous posting the grain to feed our global livestock is becoming insane and could feed billions of people. Corporations cash in on both sides, while meat price is every increasing... scarcity by profits is around the corner again

but please be my guest and deny the fact that overconsumption is throwing us off the cliff for the sake of profits :)

often when people cannot handle truth, they just will avoid the big picture because it not convenient to see it as it is.

Somebody who eats 2lbs worth of meat weekly will remain in good health, after all one only needs 2oz meat daily... I know many people who eat 1lb of it daily, and yes this is addiction. But maybe the adrenaline and other toxins released at slaughter is what people find tasty. Just ask the chinese at their dog festival.

I lost you... no prob... your remark is pointless

No wonder that we are eaten alive by senseless materialism. Matter is the consequence of a Vibration, so matter is too of a metaphysical nature. Which means that materialism will forever remain elusive/misleading and a trap. But good job, religious fundamentalism and atheism/darwinism are working behind the scene so we can't find about the Truth

hurry up, BTC $40,000 in sight :)



You had me at hello, but lost me at this.

All eating less meat will accomplish, is the further attack on testosterone in men, and the further feminization of society. By design. Eating meat lowers the cholesterol in men, lowers blood pressure, increases testosterone. You want healthy active men? Encourage men to eat meat. That is a fact. If you want more transexuals going into your public restroom to piss, dick in hand for you to view, ban meat, and encourage society to chastise anything men value, because "oh God it's so wrong".

Ares
19th December 2017, 04:29 AM
You comprehension of metaphysics is pretty weak.

Because "Metaphysics" isn't going to feed, cloth or provide for him or any of our families. We live in the real world while you live in some bullshit fantasy.

midnight rambler
19th December 2017, 04:48 AM
Because "Metaphysics" isn't going to feed, cloth or provide for him or any of our families. We live in the real world while you live in some bullshit fantasy.

FYI in case you don’t get it already we’re in a spiritual battle and by its very nature that’s metaphysical. The competition wants to pull you down by having you believe it’s otherwise.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians%206:12&version=KJV&interface=amp

Ares
19th December 2017, 04:59 AM
FYI in case you don’t get it already we’re in a spiritual battle and by its very nature that’s metaphysical. The competition wants to pull you down by having you believe it’s otherwise.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians%206:12&version=KJV&interface=amp

That may be, but it still doesn't put food on the table, clothes on our backs or even a roof over our head. That requires a medium of exchange which she believes we do not need.

midnight rambler
19th December 2017, 05:52 AM
That may be, but it still doesn't put food on the table, clothes on our backs or even a roof over our head. That requires a medium of exchange which she believes we do not need.

http://biblehub.com/kjv/luke/12.htm#22

Horn
19th December 2017, 05:58 AM
That requires a medium of exchange which she believes we do not need.

You mean 3 seashells for the change difference, correct?

Cause I'll only Really value any usb device for the silicon sand its made from.

What are you willing to spend many unending threads to convince me otherwise that there is some more important info. contained or scribbled upon it?

An numismaticaly Decreed usb device?

Ares
19th December 2017, 06:08 AM
http://biblehub.com/kjv/luke/12.htm#22

That's nice, if that was the case then there wouldn't be a single church asking for donations.

midnight rambler
19th December 2017, 06:35 AM
That's nice, if that was the case then there wouldn't be a single church asking for donations

501(c)(3) creations of the state ‘ask for donations’, one tithes to Jesus’s church. That’s an indication of your confusion.

Ares
19th December 2017, 06:41 AM
501(c)(3) creations of the state ‘ask for donations’, one tithes to Jesus’s church. That’s an indication of your confusion.

Bullshit!!

The church asked for donations LONG before the IRS and its' ridiculous statutes ever came into existence. The Vatican ran the state (Holy Roman Empire). All of this You, Singular etc is nothing more than a thread derailment. Singular spouting her typical bullshit, and surprisingly you attempting (yet failing) to provide her validation for her delusions.

Horn
19th December 2017, 07:40 AM
As a god Ares powers are technically omnipotent, however each god has a role which they do not often stray away from. Ares is most often associated with fire, one poem describes a city as bursting into flame merely upon the unsheathing of his blade and numerous plays associate him with fire. Ares is credited as a great warrior of master weapon use, as god of war his technical fighting skills were second to none, this

however does not include tactics, something Athena specifically emphasized and he ignored in favor of brute force and personal combat prowess. Ares is portrayed as one of the physically strongest gods, at least of the second generation of Olympians, the likes of Zeus and Poseidon were far, far above any of their children.

Ares favorite ability was turning men against each-other.

He rode with the goddess of discord, Eris, by his side constantly. Ares loved Eris as her very presence would cause petty bickering, enraged arguments and would cause lines in the sand to be drawn even between dear friends and family, at which point Ares fanned these arguments even further until both sides of any given disagreement were driven into murderous fervor. This was Ares standard process to sew the seeds of war, have Eris created a base divide between friends and then escalating the disagreements into all out war.

http://villains.wikia.com/wiki/Ares_(mythology)

Neuro
19th December 2017, 08:14 AM
http://villains.wikia.com/wiki/Ares_(mythology)

Coward!

Dogman
19th December 2017, 08:19 AM
http://villains.wikia.com/wiki/Ares_(mythology)

Good year for bananas I guess?

Horn
19th December 2017, 08:25 AM
the Phoenix.

https://socioecohistory.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/theeconomist-phoenix_get_ready_for_world_currency_by_2018.jpg

Notice the coincidental backing and fire to Ares helmut plumage..

https://www.igreekmythology.com/images/Ares.jpg

Jewboo
19th December 2017, 10:01 AM
That may be, but it still doesn't put food on the table, clothes on our backs or even a roof over our head. That requires a medium of exchange...



http://cdn1-www.craveonline.com/assets/uploads/2016/12/GettyImages-74214360-900x601.jpg

Exactly. Jews control every "medium of exchange" and will eventually control the single OFFICIAL digital version also.

JEW'S ENFORCER (https://www.google.com/search?bih=718&biw=1515&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=ClA5Wp6qG8GojwT7oJHYDg&q=fbi+raid&oq=fbi+raid&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0l6j0i30k1j0i5i30k1l2j0i24k1.311984.314668.0 .315188.8.8.0.0.0.0.154.1134.0j8.8.0....0...1c..64 .psy-ab..0.8.1132...0i67k1.0.dLsHfxCI2Xc)





https://i.ytimg.com/vi/mwpXa1a3qvE/hqdefault.jpg
https://pilbox.themuse.com/image.jpg?fmt=jpeg&w=900&h=600&q=90&mode=crop&pos=center&url=https%3A%2F%2Fassets.themuse.com%2Fuploaded%2F companies%2F1505%2Fabout_modules%2F10004%2F98ba826 0-6b48-42cc-b958-2a674901b35d.jpg%3Fv%3D2edd8dcebea4cbbfecbd3c4ff18 c30987e92dba866c1f395540ee9f2e66579c4
Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland

:rolleyes:We all here know that the FRB is jew-privately-owned and not actually Federal

Horn
19th December 2017, 10:22 AM
And also why forum member osoab calls Silver, wilver.

Ares
19th December 2017, 10:33 AM
http://cdn1-www.craveonline.com/assets/uploads/2016/12/GettyImages-74214360-900x601.jpg

Exactly. Jews control every "medium of exchange" and will eventually control the single OFFICIAL digital version also.



Not forever Desu :)

https://pics.onsizzle.com/whats-missing-from-a-schwitz-what-are-you-waiting-for-15379046.png

midnight rambler
19th December 2017, 10:39 AM
http://cdn1-www.craveonline.com/assets/uploads/2016/12/GettyImages-74214360-900x601.jpg

Exactly. Jews control every "medium of exchange" and will eventually control the single OFFICIAL digital version also.

JEW'S ENFORCER (https://www.google.com/search?bih=718&biw=1515&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=ClA5Wp6qG8GojwT7oJHYDg&q=fbi+raid&oq=fbi+raid&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0l6j0i30k1j0i5i30k1l2j0i24k1.311984.314668.0 .315188.8.8.0.0.0.0.154.1134.0j8.8.0....0...1c..64 .psy-ab..0.8.1132...0i67k1.0.dLsHfxCI2Xc)





https://i.ytimg.com/vi/mwpXa1a3qvE/hqdefault.jpg
https://pilbox.themuse.com/image.jpg?fmt=jpeg&w=900&h=600&q=90&mode=crop&pos=center&url=https%3A%2F%2Fassets.themuse.com%2Fuploaded%2F companies%2F1505%2Fabout_modules%2F10004%2F98ba826 0-6b48-42cc-b958-2a674901b35d.jpg%3Fv%3D2edd8dcebea4cbbfecbd3c4ff18 c30987e92dba866c1f395540ee9f2e66579c4
Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland

:rolleyes:We all here know that the FRB is jew-privately-owned and not actually Federal






Right, the Chosenites are not going to relinquish their control without a fight to the death.

The reason for that gigantic vault door is to maintain the illusion that the silly paper they keep in there actually has a value.

singular_me
19th December 2017, 12:56 PM
>> midnight rambler View Post
FYI in case you don’t get it already we’re in a spiritual battle and by its very nature that’s metaphysical. The competition wants to pull you down by having you believe it’s otherwise.<<

BINGO, as long as we compete between each others we empower the pyramid of control. The plan is definitely and indeed devilish. It is so twisted but if you want to have a confrontation with the devil, that is where to start.

yes money could work IF... nobody hoard it, then it would remain a "medium of exchange", but as soon as we hoard it, then starts monetary coercion.

If we take a honest look at the state of the planet, ecologically and social, we are being destroyed from within by a premise that is unsuited for humans. Exactly why we cannot get rid of the NWO...

Horn
19th December 2017, 02:36 PM
Costa Rica solves that problem by taxing at 30% any profits that remain in the bank at the end of the year.

Uncle Salty
19th December 2017, 03:51 PM
Mike Adams is a deep state, controlled opposition puppet, just like Alex Jones.

Lots of truth with plenty of bullshit.

Shami-Amourae
19th December 2017, 05:46 PM
Satoshi Nakamoto handed off Bitcoin development to Gavin Andresen, who shared Satoshi's vision of a decentralized Crypto that frees humanity. A banker/Rothschild back institution called Blockstream came in and kicked Gavin out of the project (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/may/06/bitcoin-project-blocks-out-gavin-andresen-over-satoshi-nakamoto-claims) and now Bitcoin has super high fees ($24 on average) and slow transaction speeds. They are doing this on purpose to sell the public on the Lightning Network. The Lightning Network is basically the banking system, so the idea is the bankers are trying to co-op it, and fold it into their control.

Myself and various original investors all support Bitcoin Cash as the true Bitcoin. It follows the original protocols of Satoshi Nakamoto.
It's better I just show you a video than explain it all in detail since I just don't have the time.

This is a long video, but the first 15 minutes are very important to watch to understand what's going on. The rest of the video is with the lead developer of the Bitcoin Cash ABC wallet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zfGihfcLT4


Anyone who believes Bitcoin was created by the NWO is ignorant on the issue.
Bitcoin and Cryptocurrencies are the #1 TOP threat to the Globalists. They are shitting their pants over it, and even the Bilderbergers have it as their top issue of discussion since they realize we can wipe them out completely with this technology.

If the world goes to a place where they can't print unlimited money anymore, they will lose all their power. Anti-Crypto FUD is actually funded and propagated by the Globalists.

The most powerful person in the world right now in my opinion is Jihan Wu, who is the top Bitcoin miner in the world. He owns 50% of all the Bitcoins that exist, and is the biggest proponent of Bitcoin Cash since he's fighting the bankers to make Bitcoin Cash replace Bitcoin Core which has been hijacked by the bankers. I consider Jihan Wu and Roger Ver (aka Bitcoin Jesus) the good guys though fighting the bankers heads on, so just saying. Roger Ver has a ton of haters though.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nihzliIDWpY

Jewboo
19th December 2017, 05:55 PM
...

https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1385/73/1385732369443.gif

Jewboo
19th December 2017, 06:12 PM
...The most powerful person in the world right now in my opinion is Jihan Wu, who is the top Bitcoin miner in the world. He owns 50% of all the Bitcoins that exist...

http://ibankcoin.com/en1gma/files/2017/09/Screen-Shot-2017-09-19-at-2.12.49-PM.png

Bitmain to Open AI R&D Center in Israel (https://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/news/exclusive-bitcoin-mining-giant-bitmain-open-ai-rd-center-israel/)
:rolleyes: OY

Ares
19th December 2017, 06:23 PM
Satoshi Nakamoto handed off Bitcoin development to Gavin Andresen, who shared Satoshi's vision of a decentralized Crypto that frees humanity. A banker/Rothschild back institution called Blockstream came in and kicked Gavin out of the project (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/may/06/bitcoin-project-blocks-out-gavin-andresen-over-satoshi-nakamoto-claims) and now Bitcoin has super high fees ($24 on average) and slow transaction speeds. They are doing this on purpose to sell the public on the Lightning Network. The Lightning Network is basically the banking system, so the idea is the bankers are trying to co-op it, and fold it into their control.

Myself and various original investors all support Bitcoin Cash as the true Bitcoin. It follows the original protocols of Satoshi Nakamoto.
It's better I just show you a video than explain it all in detail since I just don't have the time.

This is a long video, but the first 15 minutes are very important to watch to understand what's going on. The rest of the video is with the lead developer of the Bitcoin Cash ABC wallet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zfGihfcLT4


Anyone who believes Bitcoin was created by the NWO is ignorant on the issue.
Bitcoin and Cryptocurrencies are the #1 TOP threat to the Globalists. They are shitting their pants over it, and even the Bilderbergers have it as their top issue of discussion since they realize we can wipe them out completely with this technology.

If the world goes to a place where they can't print unlimited money anymore, they will lose all their power. Anti-Crypto FUD is actually funded and propagated by the Globalists.

The most powerful person in the world right now in my opinion is Jihan Wu, who is the top Bitcoin miner in the world. He owns 50% of all the Bitcoins that exist, and is the biggest proponent of Bitcoin Cash since he's fighting the bankers to make Bitcoin Cash replace Bitcoin Core which has been hijacked by the bankers. I consider Jihan Wu and Roger Ver (aka Bitcoin Jesus) the good guys though fighting the bankers heads on, so just saying. Roger Ver has a ton of haters though.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nihzliIDWpY

I kept up with the segwit drama between Core and the miners. The Bitcoin Core road map aren't really talking about lightning network, while it is on the road map Schnorr Signatures are the next planned addition to the Bitcoin Core software which will reduce the signature size to 1byte within the block freeing up the block space for literally hundreds of thousands of transactions. If they make that happen, Bitcoin Cash won't have much value (IMHO). As it stands right now when looking at transaction volume alone Bitcoin Cash pales in comparison.

An 8MB block size is not a fix its a kick the can solution. Bitcoin Cash is an Altcoin as far as the world is concerned. All of the infrastructure, mainstream attention is going towards Bitcoin Core. All alt coins are priced in Bitcoin (including Bitcoin Cash), but no altcoins are priced in Bitcoin Cash.

There were a number of reasons why Gavin was moved out of making changes to Bitcoin. This article is fair and explains it rather well:

https://www.coindesk.com/where-is-gavin-andresen-the-quiet-exile-of-bitcoins-former-face/

crimethink
19th December 2017, 08:48 PM
http://ibankcoin.com/en1gma/files/2017/09/Screen-Shot-2017-09-19-at-2.12.49-PM.png

Bitmain to Open AI R&D Center in Israel (https://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/news/exclusive-bitcoin-mining-giant-bitmain-open-ai-rd-center-israel/)
:rolleyes: OY

The Jew knows the "People's Republic" (sic) is the new superpower...they're in the process of shifting their focus.

crimethink
19th December 2017, 08:56 PM
That's nice, if that was the case then there wouldn't be a single church asking for donations.

There is only One Church, the invisible one, composed of all believers in Jesus Christ.

The worldly entities calling themselves "churches" are almost invariably state-licensed institutions designed to uphold the State and the Judeo-Freemasonic socio-politico-economic status quo, which is usually at odds with the Will of Yahweh.

Neuro
20th December 2017, 12:58 AM
Satoshi Nakamoto handed off Bitcoin development to Gavin Andresen, who shared Satoshi's vision of a decentralized Crypto that frees humanity. A banker/Rothschild back institution called Blockstream came in and kicked Gavin out of the project (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/may/06/bitcoin-project-blocks-out-gavin-andresen-over-satoshi-nakamoto-claims) and now Bitcoin has super high fees ($24 on average) and slow transaction speeds. They are doing this on purpose to sell the public on the Lightning Network. The Lightning Network is basically the banking system, so the idea is the bankers are trying to co-op it, and fold it into their control.

Myself and various original investors all support Bitcoin Cash as the true Bitcoin. It follows the original protocols of Satoshi Nakamoto.
It's better I just show you a video than explain it all in detail since I just don't have the time.

This is a long video, but the first 15 minutes are very important to watch to understand what's going on. The rest of the video is with the lead developer of the Bitcoin Cash ABC wallet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zfGihfcLT4

Anyone who believes Bitcoin was created by the NWO is ignorant on the issue.
Bitcoin and Cryptocurrencies are the #1 TOP threat to the Globalists. They are shitting their pants over it, and even the Bilderbergers have it as their top issue of discussion since they realize we can wipe them out completely with this technology.

If the world goes to a place where they can't print unlimited money anymore, they will lose all their power. Anti-Crypto FUD is actually funded and propagated by the Globalists.

The most powerful person in the world right now in my opinion is Jihan Wu, who is the top Bitcoin miner in the world. He owns 50% of all the Bitcoins that exist, and is the biggest proponent of Bitcoin Cash since he's fighting the bankers to make Bitcoin Cash replace Bitcoin Core which has been hijacked by the bankers. I consider Jihan Wu and Roger Ver (aka Bitcoin Jesus) the good guys though fighting the bankers heads on, so just saying. Roger Ver has a ton of haters though.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nihzliIDWpY
Excellent videos Shami. I got into bitcoin cash about a month ago, when it was trading slightly above $1100, now it's +$3000. It really seems bitcoin core (btc) has been intentionally destroyed, and thus bitcoin cash (bch) is the true inheritance of Satoshi Nakamoto's vision of a peer-2-peer low fee network to handle world wide transactions. Even a large 500$ online transaction subjected to a close to $25 transaction fee will cost far more than a credit card transaction for the business and customer in the bitcoin core network. Smaller transactions would have transaction costs in 10's of percents with bitcoin core. I think bitcoin cash will be more valuable than bitcoin core in a few months time!

Simply btc has none of its original utility, bch has!

singular_me
20th December 2017, 01:27 AM
He owns 50% of all the Bitcoins that exist.. is this decentralization ??? ???

ps: I did a small search and couldnt confirm this..... but if true, as it is often the case with exuberance, clues are right in our face but many overlook or dismiss them

as we can see, shami's point highlights the admiration for centralization of monetary power, while in reality, this should make anybody run in the opposite direction. It is that very mindset that helps NWO/monopolies prosper. That Jihan Wu is a monopoly onto himself and can be BOUGHT by/for at any moment! Thank you mindless speculation :(

but wait LITECOIN may be another next boom... the trap is getting bigger. Charlie Lee's 1 Billion Dollar Litecoin Bet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioOOX6f_2Ro

ps: Jeff Berwick, just like so many others that have invested so much into BTC and cryptos, must fuel the hype now.

http://cdn.onlyinyourstate.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/not-this-again-aw-geez-not-again.jpg

>>Originally Posted by Shami-Amourae View Post
...The most powerful person in the world right now in my opinion is Jihan Wu, who is the top Bitcoin miner in the world. He owns 50% of all the Bitcoins that exist<<<

e-currencies are the new faith ???

I'm Wu Jihan, bitcoin evangelist , Co-founder of BITMAIN. Ask me anything !
https://forum.bitcoin.com/ama-ask-me-anything/i-m-wu-jihan-bitcoin-evangelist-co-founder-of-bitmain-ask-me-anything-ama-dec-22-t4160.html

Jihan Wu of Bitmain Confident that Bitcoin Will be Valued $100,000 in 5 years. In an interview with Bloomberg

Horn
20th December 2017, 07:00 AM
Its De-Centralization, cause whoever holds 50% or more Bitcoin will obviously have a target on their head to be decapitated.

Imagine if he dies without notice and forgets to plant his key with someone, the Bitcoin market would be stripped of 1/2 its volume into the void never to return.

Shami-Amourae
20th December 2017, 12:52 PM
I think 2018 will be a year for privacy coins. I think there's a new trend to that since governments are starting to crack down on Cryptos and there's a need for a Crypto the government can't track.

Here are Cryptos to watch and possibly invest in that are all privacy coins.


Monero (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/monero/)(XMR) --is the best known and widely used privacy Crypto. This means it may not have as much room to grow, but its the safest place to be. I think everyone should own this in their main position no matter what since you may actually use it in transactions. Most of the dark web and black market use Monero.

Verge (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/verge/) (XVG) --Has had a huge run recently, and thankfully I got in before that happened, but I'm unsure if it will keep going. Some people believe it can dethrone Monero, but it seems like a risky buy with the recently run ups in price. Verge has a shit ton of excitement for it right now, which is a red flag for investing, but it may be a good bet too. McAfee thinks it may go to $15 in 2018. I think that's ridiculous, but anything is possible.

Digibyte (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/digibyte/) (DGB) -- It's been around since 2014 so its very old. It had a huge run in the past since people thought they'd get Digibyte for tasks completed in the video game Minecraft, but that never panned out, but it caused the price to explode. I like this one the least personally. It could still do very good though since it's way down from what it used to be.

ZCash (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/zcash/) (ZEC) -- The second safest bet after Monero. It may have troubles with growth since the price of a single ZCash is very high due to the few number of coins. People buy more of something when they psychologically perceive it to be cheap.

Safe Exchange Coin (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/safe-exchange-coin/) (SAFEX) -- The is John McAfee's top pick, and possibly the most dangerous, but possible huge upside. It recently got removed from the exchange it was on, so it's not trading on any exchange at all so it's impossible to name the value. Very little is invested into it so its a highly risky play if you can somehow manage to get some, but has possibly the highest upside potential from what I've researched.

singular_me
20th December 2017, 12:58 PM
your scenario is realistic, Horn, I agree

but look at this: Who is Jihan Wu, and Does He Basically Control Bitcoin Today?
https://www.investopedia.com/news/who-jihan-wu-and-does-he-basically-control-bitcoin-today/

still not about the 50% shami speaks about but still, the article above says that Jihan Wu is highly "influential" in the bitcoin community. But yes, according to the subject line, it is thus possible to control/centralize BTC despite blockchain.... by influence. The Mind is a tool for control no matter how complex systems seem to be. Nothing new under the sun.



Its De-Centralization, cause whoever holds 50% or more Bitcoin will obviously have a target on their head to be decapitated.

Imagine if he dies without notice and forgets to plant his key with someone, the Bitcoin market would be stripped of 1/2 its volume into the void never to return.

Shami-Amourae
20th December 2017, 01:04 PM
still not about the 50% shami speaks about but still

That's a rumor, so can't confirm it. I believe its likely true though.

If you guys want more Crypto stuff come to /biz/ on 4Chan.
http://boards.4chan.org/biz/

singular_me
20th December 2017, 02:00 PM
written 6 months ago... troubling... not so decentralized then, right?

ps: not too familiar with the crypto jargon but that seems easy to comprehend

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Jihan Wu: Aiming to Become the King of Bitcoin
This is where Bitcoin Unlimited (BU) comes in, playing a vital role in the coup of Bitcoin. In short, BU aimes to increase the storage size of blocks in order to create larger blocks. The statement proposed to the community as to why this is beneficial is that "it would provide smoother running by decongesting the blocks". To the majority of the community that know very little about blockchain (myself included) this sounds fine. However, the larger blocks make it harder for miners with limited resources to mine blocks. Meaning that the big fish like Antpool increase the amount of blocks they mine by eliminating small competitors. Forming the beginning of Oligopoly with Antpool at the top. This is how Jihan plans to initiate his coup.
https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@razmatazcnc/jihan-wu-aiming-to-become-the-king-of-bitcoin

Horn
20th December 2017, 02:02 PM
I think 2018 will be a year for privacy coins. I think there's a new trend to that since governments are starting to crack down on Cryptos and there's a need for a Crypto the government can't track.

Here are Cryptos to watch and possibly invest in that are all privacy coins.

You mean so that everyone caught trading those privacy coins is labeled Snowden and exiled to Russia?

Ares
20th December 2017, 02:23 PM
I think 2018 will be a year for privacy coins. I think there's a new trend to that since governments are starting to crack down on Cryptos and there's a need for a Crypto the government can't track.

Here are Cryptos to watch and possibly invest in that are all privacy coins.


Monero (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/monero/)(XMR) --is the best known and widely used privacy Crypto. This means it may not have as much room to grow, but its the safest place to be. I think everyone should own this in their main position no matter what since you may actually use it in transactions. Most of the dark web and black market use Monero.

Verge (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/verge/) (XVG) --Has had a huge run recently, and thankfully I got in before that happened, but I'm unsure if it will keep going. Some people believe it can dethrone Monero, but it seems like a risky buy with the recently run ups in price. Verge has a shit ton of excitement for it right now, which is a red flag for investing, but it may be a good bet too. McAfee thinks it may go to $15 in 2018. I think that's ridiculous, but anything is possible.

Digibyte (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/digibyte/) (DGB) -- It's been around since 2014 so its very old. It had a huge run in the past since people thought they'd get Digibyte for tasks completed in the video game Minecraft, but that never panned out, but it caused the price to explode. I like this one the least personally. It could still do very good though since it's way down from what it used to be.

ZCash (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/zcash/) (ZEC) -- The second safest bet after Monero. It may have troubles with growth since the price of a single ZCash is very high due to the few number of coins. People buy more of something when they psychologically perceive it to be cheap.

Safe Exchange Coin (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/safe-exchange-coin/) (SAFEX) -- The is John McAfee's top pick, and possibly the most dangerous, but possible huge upside. It recently got removed from the exchange it was on, so it's not trading on any exchange at all so it's impossible to name the value. Very little is invested into it so its a highly risky play if you can somehow manage to get some, but has possibly the highest upside potential from what I've researched.

Don't forget DeepOnion. Also very new coin, think it was released late summer / early fall.

singular_me
21st December 2017, 01:20 PM
another "mind engineered" boom

https://steemit-production-imageproxy-thumbnail.s3.amazonaws.com/DQmbqEb7STd4GKQuC2Ekc6ZB691ZYg8CN5iiaiAFRaje5hL_16 80x8400

singular_me
22nd December 2017, 12:46 AM
when the mind tries to manipulate value/money, it is indeed volatile, regardless of the framework itself.... sure it will bounce back

The Mind does magic, for the best and the worse... it is too tempting. "letting the market decide" is a half-truth, because if man indeed would ever allow that, we'd have a zero-sum game. What kills the zero sum game is speculating on the future, the fear of tomorrow... so booms and busts are here to stay. Fear is what turns Natural Laws against society/man. And the devil knows this of course.

ps: I wished I had known this 20 years ago though

==============
Total Crypto Market Cap Bleeds Out a Massive $90B | Nearly 1/6th of Total Market Cap in about 12 Hours...
https://steemit.com/crypto-news/@barrydutton/total-crypto-market-cap-bleeds-out-a-massive-usd90b-or-nearly-1-6th-of-total-market-cap-in-about-12-hours-it-is-not-even-fud

https://steemit-production-imageproxy-thumbnail.s3.amazonaws.com/DQmPNYe3NBHAkEnNMZctTXf1QYnek7LvM7wMG3y7DN17nm3_16 80x8400

Ares
22nd December 2017, 04:10 AM
when the mind tries to manipulate value/money, it is indeed volatile, regardless of the framework itself.... sure it will bounce back

So trading bots are "The mind"?

Get real.

https://venturebeat.com/2017/12/14/how-bots-are-manipulating-cryptocurrency-prices/

Horn
22nd December 2017, 07:37 AM
Ah yes, were starting to hint upon the root.

What 2 people (the market) state the value of something is, is only fiat upon itself.

Disregards true value, inlieu of 2 informed jews.

God has a hand in true value, if there is nothing to price there is no market for it.

singular_me
23rd December 2017, 02:12 AM
Just a start ??? security will forever remain elusive... cannot be bought

Sneaky cryptocurrency mining malware Loapi can literally melt your phone
https://www.rt.com/news/413921-loapi-cryptocurrency-mining-malware/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

singular_me
26th December 2017, 04:40 AM
staying aware is key

nothing, nobody will have the monopoly on Knowledge because the only currency is "voluntary cooperation", socialism has inverted that Truth

============================
Hijacking Computers to Mine Cryptocurrency Is All the Rage
Hackers are using old tricks and new cryptocurrencies to turn stolen computing power into digital coins.

by Mike Orcutt October 5, 2017
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/609031/hijacking-computers-to-mine-cryptocurrency-is-all-the-rage/

Neuro
28th December 2017, 07:03 AM
I think one thing is fairly certain, bitcoin wouldn't be pumped to +$300 Billion (and around $600 Billion total cryptocurrency valuation) without central bank involvement...

Why would they buy into a major part of it?

My guess is that the purpose is to fund the opposition, in order to crush it by defunding it. They may lose "money" doing it, but it isn't much of a problem if you own the printing press.

Then they just use the technology being created the last decade in the creation of the Phoenix.

https://socioecohistory.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/theeconomist-phoenix_get_ready_for_world_currency_by_2018.jpg

Crypto-Putin strikes 3 days prior to 2018.

Russia suggests creating single virtual currency for BRICS and EEU
https://www.rt.com/business/401969-brics-consider-joint-cryptocurrency/

Now they just need to burn the USD to the ground.

Horn
28th December 2017, 07:29 AM
Crypto-Putin strikes 3 days prior to 2018.

Russia suggests creating single virtual currency for BRICS and EEU
https://www.rt.com/business/401969-brics-consider-joint-cryptocurrency/

Now they just need to burn the USD to the ground.

Ahh, they've started to realize that they've been trading into Just nothing,

Now they're moving onto trading in an ultimately deeper sense of nothing.

singular_me
28th December 2017, 02:16 PM
.... indeed.... BRICS countries considering own cryptocurrency as settlement mechanism