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ziero0
5th February 2018, 07:07 AM
Delusion is a belief that, though false, has been surrendered to and accepted by the whole mind as a truth; illusion is an impression that, though false, is entertained provisionally on the recommendation of the senses or the imagination, but awaits full acceptance and may not influence action.

While it is ok to accept an illusion at face value best withhold action until you become fully delusional. The system is great at creating illusions. Nothing wrong with that at all. But when you surrender to an idea that is false you are said to be delusional. Your actions are what determine whether you are being entertained by magicians or informed by priests.

Perhaps an illustration would be in order to differentiate between illusion and delusion.

A pilot was flying in north Minnesota in winter. He wanted to land at a small out of the way unmaintained airport to see his girlfriend. As he approached the airport at 2,000 feet he spotted a plane performing touch and go landings at the airport. He also noted there was snow. Thinking nothing further than his soon meeting he made his approach, flare and landing. Except there was 3 feet of snow covering the runway and he flipped his plane. As he crawled out he noticed the other plane which had been performing the touch and goes departing the airspace.

The pilot of the other plane hadn't been performing touch and goes. He had been doing low flyby's to try to determine if the runway was safe to land. From the air these flyby's were the illusion of touch and goes. The pilot that crashed was under a delusion ... false information that he took action on.

Hence the claim that illusions are around us at all times. The delusion requires an action based upon the false information of the illusion. The pilot that had been performing the seemingly touch and goes performed the action of departing the area. He was under no delusion. His quest for information as to the safety of the runway had been answered succinctly.

Can you come up with an example where someone presents information and then waits for your response? The person presenting the information originally gets to act on the information you provide when you either succeed or fail.

In case you can't think of an instance of this take a look at any court decision where the action of a man is being considered to determine if it was performed in truth or in falsehood.

ziero0
5th February 2018, 04:40 PM
An illusion is global warming or climate change. Trying to convince people the earth is changing and blaming that entire change on the activities of man is the illusion. One volcano has more effect on weather than all the activities of man.

Delusion is when you decide to walk rather than use an internal combustion engine based upon information Al Gore has underwritten.

ziero0
5th February 2018, 04:41 PM
You are on the llano estcado and spot a mirage of a waterhole. That is an illusion. You start to stumble toward it. That is a delusion. You made an action based upon a mistaken belief.

What you should have done is sat and waited for the illusion of a chauffeured limousine to take you there.

Twisted Titan
7th February 2018, 12:30 PM
The are at least 40 million people in this country that actually believe in their heart of hearts that Trump is a Russian hack

Even though there is not a shred of court acceptable proof that has been offered by those who make the claim.


This is amazing sight to behold: a successful large scale brain washing operation implemented

Dachsie
7th February 2018, 01:04 PM
The are at least 40 million people in this country that actually believe in their heart of hearts that Trump is a Russian hack

That is not illusion or delusion. That is the psychological defense mechanism of denial.

Somewhere along the line a certain faction of our people have crossed the line between the accepted reality that "all is mutual use" anyway and so play any dirty trick to get your way, and this world is all there is. Nobody will get caught because everybody is involved in the wrong kind of mutual back scratching and the whole bribery - extortion- blackmail grid is securely in place.

It is based on this world's system, you know, the one Our Lord told us not to be conformed to.

The Truth is that there is God and he hears our prayers and He will grant us the grace to have faith, hope and charity if we will only accept it and give our all to Him.

No decent person should ever run for any elected office, or accept any appointment, even at small local government level, unless they are sure they have a strong Christian full-time set of prayer warriors to protect them from the swamp creatures' tricks and scams.

I guess it was illusion for about 40 million people to believe in their heart of hearts that Hillary Clinton would definitely win.

Some, if not many, of the 40 million people are now coming to the awakening that their heroes in government do not care about their good at all and have not the slightest intention of serving the people as they are charged to do.

It will take a Christian who is willing to take up their cross and enter the swamp and try to make our USA one nation under God.

Twisted Titan
7th February 2018, 02:59 PM
It will take a Christian who is willing to take up their cross and enter the swamp and try to make our USA one nation under God.




Not gonna happen.

America is a gentile nation and the time of the gentile has not been fully fulfilled.

But when it does .....The seat of all worldly power will go back to Jerusalem.