Distraction Alert: 'nother FL school shooting, MSM goes Wall to Wall

[PatColo]

watch the (((magician's))) OTHER hand... :rolleyes:
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HIGH SCHOOL SHOOTING (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/02/14/parkland-high-school-shooting-at-least-14-victims-suspect-in-custody-florida-sheriff-says.html)

'At least 14 victims,' many feared dead from gunfire at Florida school; suspect in custody
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[PatColo]

vlogger James Munder

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[old steel]

Susan Rice's district no, i mean Debbie Wasserman Schultz, yeah that's it.

[cheka.]

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/world/active-shooter-reported-at-florida-high-school/news-story/49c0266125e20ee3d1fd7d0233966bb5

As many as seven people have been killed after another mass shooting at a US high school.

Many others were injured when an assailant opened fire at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida.

Police responded to first reports around 2.30pm local time on Wednesday (6.30am Thursday AEDT).

There were differing reports of the number of injured. AP reported at least 14. Al Boe News said at least 20 people were injured. Local media stated there could be as many as 50.

Still locked in. I checked the local news and there is 20 victims. Long live Majory Stoneman Douglas High. pic.twitter.com/4kQMAlCBWt
— Aj22000 (@TheCaptainAidan) February 14, 2018

US Senator Bill Nelson told Fox News there were “many deaths” in the shooting.

A fire alarm reportedly went off just minutes before the shooting started. Students were evacuating the school when the gunfire began.

CBS reports that students initially thought the shooting was a drill, after they had one earlier in the day.

“We thought it was a drill,” a student told CBS News. “We already had one earlier this morning...and then we heard gunshots; some students thought it was not that serious.”

Police initially reported that the suspect was still at large, but made an arrest just before 4pm local time.

Officers could be seen handling a white male in handcuffs at a community at 11735 NW 47th Drive.

It’s believed the shooter may have had a handgun as well as a rifle.

The shooter was said to have been wearing a black hat, a maroon or burgundy colored shirt and black pants.

BNO News reports that the suspect is being taken to hospital, but ithis has not been verified.
The Broward County Sheriff's Office in Florida is responding to reports of a shooting in a Florida high school. Picture: Seven News
Anxious family members wait for news of students. Picture: AP Photo/Wilfredo Lee

Follow @browardsheriff for latest info on the #stonemanshooting. Shooter still at large.
— Broward Sheriff (@browardsheriff) February 14, 2018

Images from the scene showed a number of people being treated by first responders.

Police officers in helmets, bulletproof vests and armed with automatic weapons could be seen stationed at several points around the school.

Police from neighboring Coral Springs advised teachers and students in the building to “remain barricaded inside until police reach you.”
Emergency crews on the scene near Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland. Picture: NBC
Aerial footage from CNN affiliate WSVN showed a number of people lying on the ground outside the school, being treated for injuries and moved to ambulances.

A student at the school, Michael Katx, told ABC News that he hid after he heard the gunfire. He said first he “heard what sounded like a garbage truck like banging”.

“Then also I hear, ‘Boom, boom, boom.’ I hear screaming everywhere,” he said. “I just got underneath my teacher’s desk.”

An ABC News reporter asked a witness how many shots he heard. He said: “Too many to count.”
ABC US live stream

Len Murray’s 17-year-old son, a student at the South Florida high school where shooting was reported, sent his parents a chilling text: “Mom and Dad, there have been shots fired on campus at school. There are police sirens outside. I’m in the auditorium and the doors are locked.” Those words came at 2:30 pm on Wednesday. A few minutes later, he texted again: “I’m fine.” Murray raced to the school only to be stopped by authorities under a highway overpass within view of the school buildings in Parkland.

The Parkland, Florida, school complex where the mass shooting has taken place.It is situated in the heart of a wealthy waterway residential district. A) Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School. B) Westglades Middle School

No information was immediately given to parents, Len Murray says. And he says he remained worried for all those inside.

“I’m scared for the other parents here. You can see the concern in everybody’s faces. Everybody is asking, ‘Have you heard from your child yet?”’
In this frame grab from video provided by WPLG-TV, students from the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School evacuate following the shooting. Picture: WPLG-TV via AP

Family members embrace after a student walked out from Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School. Police were warning that the shooter was still at large even as ambulances converged on the scene. Picture: AP Photo/Wilfredo Lee

Students were lined up in single file as they were evacuated.

One daughter told her mother to “be safe” and “stay away” from the school, reported ABC News.

But her mother refused to listen, saying, “I won’t stay away. I’m your mother.”

Parkland, about 48 kilometres north of Fort Lauderdale, is part of the realtively wealthy strip of enclaves on Florida’s east coast stretching between Miami and Palm Beach.

[cheka.]

nyc.hln tv news is reporting they picked up a suspect OFF SITE - not at the skool

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/14/florida-sheriffs-responding-reports-parkland-high-school-shooting1/

Sheriffs from Broward County said that they were looking for a 5’8” white male in a burgundy shirt, black trousers or shorts, and a black hat.

Sheriff Scott Israel of Broward County has just given a press conference.

He says:

He was not a current student.

He was previously a student, but I don't know the circumstances.

I wasn't there, but I was told there was no confrontation and he was taken into arrest without incident.

I believe he was approximately 18 years old.


Gunman reportedly a former student

Brandon, a student, said the suspected gunman was a former student.

"He told me he got kicked out of two private schools, and was held back twice.

"He seemed a little off."


Gunman "wearing a gas mask"

My colleague Rozina Sabur writes:

The gunman was wearing a gas mask, according to Mail Online.

Police surrounded Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, where the 'heavily armed' shooter, wearing a gas mask, pulled out a 'long' gun at just after 2pm and began shooting.

[PatColo]

http://www.sheriff.org/PublishingImages/Slider/2017-02-09_10-37-06.png

"Sheriff Israel" lolz :D Broward County Sheriff's Office (http://www.sheriff.org)


Susan Rice's district?

not sure, Broward split between 4

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broward_County,_Florida

Congressional districts 20th (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida%27s_20th_congressional_district), 22nd (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida%27s_22nd_congressional_district), 23rd (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida%27s_23rd_congressional_district), 24th (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida%27s_24th_congressional_district)

[PatColo]

watch the (((magician's))) other hand... :rolleyes:

I've had FOX on mute, no comm breaks for > 1hr, "Wall to Wall"

q #697, https://qcodefag.github.io

(https://qcodefag.github.io)


Feb 9 2018 18:17:44 Q !UW.yye1fxo ID: f81874 320057 (https://8ch.net//qresearch/res/319469.html#320057)
[Next week]
[Next week]
[Next week]
Suicide weekend?
Q

[cheka.]

https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/160460751/happening-school-shooting

Name is Nicholas Cruz, red head with freckles

Name could be spelled differently, heard it on the scanner

Now another kid saying it's a 20 yr old who was in the alternate school with him at one point. Why are 20 yr olds still in high school?!?!?!

so what they plant this kid in the bushes?
>Oh he's....like...still on the run or something...oh look we find him waiting 4 blocks away

He may be white but his profile says he speaks espanol. Start saving stuff from his social media before it's taken down
Nicholas Santa Cruz

SHOOTERS INSTA

https://www.instagram.com/cruz_nikolas/

https://www.instagram.com/cruz_nikolas/

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA SHOOTER'S INSTAGRAM! HE WANTED TO PUT A SCOPE ON A SHOTGUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here's his Instagram. He fun boys
https://www.instagram.com/p/BAQsBeercmi/?taken-by=cruz_nikolas

dyed his hair red. see his instagram up above

They took the instagram down

cell phone video -- https://www.infowars.com/shock-footage-student-films-shots-fired-inside-florida-high-school/

[StreetsOfGold]

The narrative of the "show" continues


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJUvEOqVgfc

[PatColo]

Here's his Instagram. He fun boys
https://www.instagram.com/p/BAQsBeercmi/?taken-by=cruz_nikolas


Sorry, this page isn't available. The link you followed may be broken, or the page may have been removed. Go back to Instagram. (https://www.instagram.com/)

[Joshua01]

Yep, quick deletion...False flags don't work as well as they used to
Sorry, this page isn't available.

The link you followed may be broken, or the page may have been removed. Go back to Instagram. (https://www.instagram.com/)

[PatColo]

New Q, < 10 mins ago, live discussion incl Corsi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4TEQNzFNzU



Q !UW.yye1fxo 02/14/18 (Wed) 15:06:27 No. (https://8ch.net/greatawakening/res/1.html#88)88 (https://8ch.net/greatawakening/res/1.html#q88)
MILITARY INTELLIGENCE TEAM
MILITARY INTELLIGENCE BATTALION (STRATEGIC SIGNALS INTELLIGENCE)
MILITARY INTELLIGENCE BRIGADE (STRATEGIC SIGNALS INTELLIGENCE)
DESIGNATION: _ MILITARY INTELLIGENCE TEAM,
_ MILITARY INTELLIGENCE BRIGADE (STRAT SIGINT)
32536AA00: _ MI TM (UTAH)(STRAT SIGINT)
32536AB00: _ MI TM (OCMC)(STRAT SIGINT)
32536AC00: _ MI TM (DET A)(STRAT SIGINT)
Q

[Joshua01]

Dude, this is too cryptic. What's the message?
New Q, < 10 mins ago, live discussion incl Corsi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4TEQNzFNzU


Q !UW.yye1fxo 02/14/18 (Wed) 15:06:27 No. (https://8ch.net/greatawakening/res/1.html#88)88 (https://8ch.net/greatawakening/res/1.html#q88)
MILITARY INTELLIGENCE TEAM
MILITARY INTELLIGENCE BATTALION (STRATEGIC SIGNALS INTELLIGENCE)
MILITARY INTELLIGENCE BRIGADE (STRATEGIC SIGNALS INTELLIGENCE)
DESIGNATION: _ MILITARY INTELLIGENCE TEAM,
_ MILITARY INTELLIGENCE BRIGADE (STRAT SIGINT)
32536AA00: _ MI TM (UTAH)(STRAT SIGINT)
32536AB00: _ MI TM (OCMC)(STRAT SIGINT)
32536AC00: _ MI TM (DET A)(STRAT SIGINT)
Q

[PatColo]

Q_Stream is speculating it's not "for us", but rather comm for other intel spooks--- numerous prior Qs like that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4TEQNzFNzU

[madfranks]

So is he White or is he hispanic? They are not the same, regardless of what the media tells you.

[Down1]

(((They))) deleted his pro Isis account.
Kept the MAGA account up.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/02/controlling-narrative-facebook-owned-instagram-quietly-deletes-cruz-account-displaying-interest-isis-leaves-one-wearing-maga-hat/

[PatColo]

Q_Stream is speculating it's not "for us", but rather comm for other intel spooks--- numerous prior Qs like that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4TEQNzFNzU


'nother drop, also hopelessly cryptic; they call these posts "stringers"-- seem like inner-intel comms.

see it & the previous drop at the bottom of https://8ch.net/greatawakening/index.html

for some reason https://qcodefag.github.io isn't updating properly right now; the live stream was wondering aloud what the issue is. They (specifically "Pamphlet-Anon") are the ones who set up & administer it.

this latest drop is unique, in that for the first time, Q signed off:

"Q, DELTA"

[cheka.]

student on tv just said that the school was filled with smoke - SHE said that it was too much smoke to be just from the gun

[cheka.]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/14/nicholas-cruz-florida-shooter-had-flagged-threat-talked-using/

Nicholas Cruz: Florida shooter 'had been flagged as a threat' and 'talked of using guns'

The gunman who allegedly killed at least 17 people at a Florida high school on Wednesday was reportedly a former student who had been flagged as a possible threat.

Police identified the suspect as Nicolas Cruz, a 19-year-old who used to attend Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland

Authorities later announced that they had taken the suspect into custody and took him to hospital after locating him in Coral Springs, a little over a mile away from the school.

Jim Gard, a maths teacher, said Cruz had been in his class last year.

“We were told last year that he wasn’t allowed on campus with a backpack on him,” Mr Gard told the Miami Herald.

“There were problems with him last year threatening students, and I guess he was asked to leave campus.”

However, Robert Runcie, the Broward County School District Superintendent, told reporters he was not aware of any concerns raised about the student.

“We received no warnings,” Mr Runcie said outside the school. “Potentially there could have been signs out there. But we didn't have any warning or phone calls or threats that were made.”

[cheka.]

alternate spelling

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida-shooting-suspect-identified-as-nikolas-cruz-a-former-student/

Florida school shooting: Suspect ID'd as Nikolaus Cruz, a former student

Sheriff Scott Israel identified the suspect as Nikolaus Cruz, 19. A law enforcement source briefed on the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School said the suspect appears to have pulled the school fire alarm, causing chaos, and then started shooting, reports CBS News news senior investigative producer Pat Milton.

Previously, Israel had said the shooter was a former student. He said the shooter was outside and inside the school at points during the attack, and taken into custody "without incident" about an hour after he left the school.

[cheka.]

https://twitter.com/The_Trump_Train/status/963902948181987328

JUST IN: Parkland, Florida school shooter Nicholas Cruz posted “allahu akbar” and followed multiple radical Islamic groups on Facebook.

also ANOTHER spelling -- nikolas was used on twitter account cruz_nikolas that is suspected to be his

[Cebu_4_2]

ANy 'dead' paid actor pictures yet?

Looks like a good boy too...

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9681&d=1518653407

9681

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/1518646873339.jpg

[cheka.]

and a FOURTH spelling - this one from AP

https://www.mediaite.com/online/florida-shooter-identified-as-former-high-school-student/

BREAKING: US official: Florida school shooter identified as Nicolas Cruz.

— The Associated Press (@AP) February 14, 2018

[PatColo]

uh oh, twas the dreaded "AR-15" :o gun control play.... :(

new Q again, https://8ch.net/greatawakening/index.html



Q !UW.yye1fxo 02/14/18 (Wed) 16:01:01 No. (https://8ch.net/greatawakening/res/1.html#91)91 (https://8ch.net/greatawakening/res/1.html#q91)
SEPT 7, 1776.





which was (at least)
World's first submarine attack - Sep 07, 1776 - HISTORY.com (https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/worlds-first-submarine-attack)

[Dogman]

17 dead so far

[cheka.]

https://heavy.com/news/2018/02/nikolas-cruz-florida-instagram-nicolas-nicholas-social-media/

Some news sites initially gave the suspect’s name as Nicolas de Jesus Cruz or Nicolas Cruz

According to The Washington Times, Nikolas Cruz “has been identified as a former Army JROTC member wielding an assault rifle,” although authorities have not yet confirmed that account.

[PatColo]

reco' listening to CBTS_Stream now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4TEQNzFNzU

apparently heavy mil air & sub activity right now...

FOX has remained Wall to Wall comm-free FL "event" distraction mode for at least past couple hours.

sidenote: the FOX blond hostess has the Ash-Wednesday schmere on her forehead, on air. Never seen that b4!

[Dachsie]

Define victim.

[Cebu_4_2]

17 dead so far

Have just 1 pic yet?

[PatColo]

zio-christian Jerome Corsi just said he thinks (((Pam Geller's))) "research" is pretty good, vouched for (((her))).

from (((her))) site,

GRAPHIC VIDEO: Islamic/Antifa links of Florida Mass Shooter was CAIR Follower, “Allahu Akbar” #BLM (https://gellerreport.com/2018/02/fla-schol-shooter-islamic-left.html/)

[Dogman]

9682


Very sad , twisting of sump thing that probably is very true.

Dead is dead and family's are grieving for there kids that are dead, or are seriously wounded.

17 and counting, depending on how bad they were hit.

Sad,

Sum very sick people on this forum.

[PatColo]

^ tip ur "meds" bottle a few more times 'til you pass out again; the grownups are having an important grownup discussion here now. --H H--


sidenote: the FOX blond hostess has the Ash-Wednesday schmere on her forehead, on air. Never seen that b4!

St. Valentine's plus Ash Wednesday combo; don't da dinjoo-nuffins have a fetish for spoiling Christian holy days with this kind of nonsense? :rolleyes:

Still Wall to Wall on FOX, no comms, 100% FL "event" distraction mode, for I don't know how many hours now.

[Dogman]

^ tip ur "meds" bottle a few more times 'til you pass out again; the grownups are having an important grownup discussion here now. --H H--





St. Valentine's plus Ash Wednesday combo; don't da dinjoo-nuffins have a fetish for spoiling Christian holy days with this kind of nonsense? :rolleyes:

9684

Comming from you, major hoot, thanks for the grin!

;D

Who are your masters?

Forget it I do not give a shit.!

[Cebu_4_2]

9682


Very sad , twisting of sump thing that probably is very true.

Dead is dead and family's are grieving for there kids that are dead, or are seriously wounded.

17 and counting, depending on how bad they were hit.

Sad,

Sum very sick people on this forum.


Asking for ONE picture, any real/actual event almost immediately has at least pictures of lumps covered with bloody sheets. In Fogmans view this as real as chemtrails are fake. May the "Fog" be with you Chuck.

[PatColo]

new Q re FL "event", first 3 sets of initials are clintons (w/Chelsea), then O'Bummer is Hussein. Hopefully it's coz they can't tweet from jail? :(??
QCODEFAG GITHUB CLONE (alternate when qcodefag not working):
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Feb 14 2018 17:34:20 Q !UW.yye1fxo ID: 0245cc 378936 (https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/378079.html#378936)
Where are the tweets from HRC, BC, CC, Hussein, others re: the shooting today?
Do you believe in EVIL?
Make no mistake, they will all PAY THE PRICE.
Q

[Dogman]

Asking for ONE picture, any real/actual event almost immediately has at least pictures of lumps covered with bloody sheets. In Fogmans view this as real as chemtrails are fake. May the "Fog" be with you Chuck. you are a sicko, bet bunch of phone vids will filter in soon. give you sumpthing to jack off to.

[cheka.]

gas mask + smoke grenades = no ability for witnesses to ID shooter?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5580690/florida-gunman-shooter-high-school-parkland-dead-injuries-latest/

AN expelled student wearing a gas mask and carrying smoke grenades went on a rampage at his former school armed with a semi-automatic rifle, killing at least 17 people and injuring dozens more.

Nikolaus Cruz, 19, reportedly pulled the fire alarm and opened fire at students with an AR15 assault rifle as they evacuated Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida.

[midnight rambler]

Here's the (alleged) perp, a wigger.

Note that he wore his school ROTC shirt for the occasion -

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2018/02/15/01/49394AE000000578-5392559-Nicolas_Cruz_19_was_arrested_after_he_stormed_Marj ory_Stoneman_D-m-1_1518657645987.jpg

[PatColo]

^ he don't look like the black haired (latino?) scary moozlem fanatic who (((Pam Geller))) is touting,
GRAPHIC VIDEO: Islamic/Antifa links of Florida Mass Shooter was CAIR Follower, “Allahu Akbar” #BLM (https://gellerreport.com/2018/02/fla-schol-shooter-islamic-left.html/)

archived that ^ page for posterity http://archive.is/Of2m9

[midnight rambler]

^ he don't look like the black haired (latino?) scary moozlem fanatic who (((Pam Geller))) is touting,
GRAPHIC VIDEO: Islamic/Antifa links of Florida Mass Shooter was CAIR Follower, “Allahu Akbar” #BLM (https://gellerreport.com/2018/02/fla-schol-shooter-islamic-left.html/)

archived that ^ page for posterity http://archive.is/Of2m9

Check the eyebrows, he's not a natural ginger. And the jughead ears match.

[cheka.]

Check the eyebrows, he's not a natural ginger. And the jughead ears match.

earlier post mentioned hair is dyed

[Cebu_4_2]

you are a sicko, bet bunch of phone vids will filter in soon. give you sumpthing to jack off to.

Fuck you Fogman, go back into your induced alcohol slumber to pass through this as a slug from another day to never awaken again.

[StreetsOfGold]

Hoax, Crisis actors and what a day for it.
Valentines day combined with the Baal worshipers BLACK MARK (on the fore head) day


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0FQ9wBECiQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS3ueVlcgF8

[cheka.]

gun grabbers no like this

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/02/breaking-dont-let-maga-hat-fool-hispanic-shooter-nicolas-de-jesus-cruz-registered-democrat/

BREAKING: Don’t Let The MAGA Hat Fool You, Hispanic Shooter “Nicolas de Jesus Cruz” Was A Registered Democrat

It was just discovered that the full name of the shooter is “Nicolas de Jesus Cruz” and that he is a registered Democrat in the state of Flordia. It is becoming more clear that this individual was NOT, in fact, an actual Trump supporter, as is being reported by the media as the result of the image that shows Cruz wearing a MAGA hat.

[Dogman]

Fuck you Fogman, go back into your induced alcohol slumber to pass through this as a slug from another day to never awaken again. Touchy tant we, well your own posting history shows that you lust for bloody pics.

Feel the pain, sweetheart , truth hurts .

9685

[PatColo]

4 new Qs in the past 20 mins, last #760 https://qanonmap.github.io/?

[Hitch]

I have a hard time believing this happened.

Schools are gun free zones. Nobody with a gun can cause harm in a gun free zone. A gun free zone is safe for our kids. I just don't understand.

[Dogman]

I have a hard time believing this happened.

Schools are gun free zones. Nobody with a gun can cause harm in a gun free zone. A gun free zone is safe for our kids. I just don't understand.

9686

Nice try

[Hitch]

9686

Nice try

I was trying to back ya up Dogman, in an indirect way. Keep on the good fight, my friend!!

[Dogman]

I was trying to back ya up Dogman, in an indirect way. Keep on the good fight, my friend!! Family pain, ..Well is real !

Sad for the ones killed + their family's..(17 and maybe counting) ?

Not all is an illusion.

But for a dam fact, illusions will be created here and on the web..

Which is truly sick.

Be well friend, "Onward thru the fog"

We go in life !


;D

[Hitch]

But for a dam fact, illusions will be created here and on the web..

Which is truly sick.

Indeed. We live in times now, where illusions, from the media, or the internet, can be created. And people believe. On this forum too, as you point out.

But, people like yourself, that speak out their opinions in disregard of what others think about it, matter. Probably matter the most, imo. Free thought and free speech is imperative to our survival.

[Dogman]

Indeed. We live in times now, where illusions, from the media, or the internet, can be created. And people believe. On this forum too, as you point out.

But, people like yourself, that speak out their opinions in disregard of what others think about it, matter. Probably matter the most, imo. Free thought and free speech is imperative to our survival. But also counter points are very important, to separate the wheat from the bullshit !

Hive minds need to be avoided, along with cluster fucks..

;D

Take note friend..

Avoid assimilation into the local hive mind, as it seems your direction of thoughts are going, over the last year or so.. ;D

9687

feer for u.

Truth!

Peace !

9688

[PatColo]

U believe the (((official Sandy Hook story))) too then dog? :(?? The "family pain", the "26 murdered".... ???

Boston Hoax-A-Thon?

Orlando Nightclub Homocaust?


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OOe22YTrf9s/maxresdefault.jpg

[PatColo]

28 sec video inside: https://twitter.com/DewsNewz/status/963919612088868865



Rob Dew‏ @DewsNewz (https://twitter.com/DewsNewz) 8h8 hours ago (https://twitter.com/DewsNewz/status/963919612088868865)

#FloridaHighSchool (https://twitter.com/hashtag/FloridaHighSchool?src=hash)
Father reports student told him they had a fire drill and were supposed to have an active shooter drill.

[singular_me]

no surprise here....

=============
Florida shooting suspect Nikolas Cruz: Guns, depression and a ...
Feb 15, 2018 · Florida shooting suspect Nikolas Cruz: Guns, ... And Broward County Mayor Beam Furr told CNN that Cruz had been getting treatment at a mental health clinic for a ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/02/15/florida-shooting-suspect-nikolas-cruz-guns-depression-and-a-life-in-free-fall/?utm_term=.d162eee4972a

[Cebu_4_2]

Touchy tant we, well your own posting history shows that you lust for bloody pics.

Feel the pain, sweetheart , truth hurts .

9685


No Fogman, I asked to see any possible evidence that this did in fact happen. Keep your bloody semen pics to yourself... Happy Valentines day Sweetie.

[Dogman]

No Fogman, I asked to see any possible evidence that this did in fact happen. Keep your bloody semen pics to yourself... Happy Valentines day Sweetie.

Humm>?<

Nice try twirp, what pics , you are the one that wants to see the blood and guts, your history posting shows that,

Done with you on this one, my time is limited..

U sick punk !

;D

Have a great day....snicker

[Cebu_4_2]

Humm>?<

Nice try twirp, what pics , you are the one that wants to see the blood and guts, your history posting shows that,

Done with you on this one, my time is limited..

U sick punk !

;D

Have a great day....snicker


Up yours girlyman... even though I know you like that.

[Dogman]

9689

9690

[EE_]

I think mass shootings like this will continue to become more common. I have never seen our country this hateful of it's fellow man. Am I the only one to see it?

The left, with the help of the liberal MSM, has been indoctrinating kids and all people on the left to be hateful of anyone that doesn't agree with their ideology. Violence on the left has become acceptable, as we've all been watching on liberal campuses, at protests and sports celebrations. Racial hatred is at a level we haven't seen in decades.

I think our society is in a very bad place thanks to the liberal progressive left and Obama. Might as well get used to it, there's no sign of liberals letting up on hatred anytime soon.

Why hasn't anyone been pushing harder to arm teachers? I think there should be teacher firearm training in every school with an incentive of higher pay for those licensed to carry on campus. Also, why aren't schools looking at facial recognition technology to enter schools? The government has been installing this technology all over our country, why not schools too?
Maybe it's too simple of a solution?

We can thank the globalist, the left and Obama for the hatred and racism they brought to our society. Their plan is working perfectly.

[EE_]

As society breaks down, you can expect to see this happening with more frequency.
Keep your firearm handy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyRdZg55Mjg

[ziero0]

NBC Today was interviewing a girl who had been shot and whose friend next to her had been killed. She made a statement such as "we had just completed a test on the holocaust when the shooter ... .". I was sort of drowsy and wasn't paying close attention so this might just be my imagination.


Junior Samantha Grady said she was working on an assignment about the Holocaust when she heard two shots in the hallway. Her best friend pushed her down, and the two then ran toward a big bookshelf.

https://www.today.com/news/florida-school-shooting-survivor-recounts-horrific-scene-classroom-t123254

There .. I verified it.

[Dachsie]

As society breaks down, you can expect to see this happening with more frequency.
Keep your firearm handy.


Wise words.

If you shoot the person while they are outside or partially outside your abode, remember to drag the body inside before notifying the police.

[ziero0]

If you shoot the person ...

A person is an actor. It is the face you put on before appearing in public.

[madfranks]

I have a hard time believing this happened.

Schools are gun free zones. Nobody with a gun can cause harm in a gun free zone. A gun free zone is safe for our kids. I just don't understand.

I think they need to make the gun free zones bigger, like expand them to 500 feet around the school, that should help.

[Dachsie]

I think they need to make the gun free zones bigger, like expand them to 500 feet around the school, that should help.

This is all "tongue in cheek" Right?

[PatColo]

Not sure what to make of this one! (((Laura Loomer))) was/is a big name in the indy LV "event" investigation. Girl in this 1m 41s interview vid... talk about demeanor not synching with story/events! :o Vid inside:
https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer/status/964006493900234752



Laura Loomer‏ @LauraLoomer (https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer)
#BREAKING (https://twitter.com/hashtag/BREAKING?src=hash): Alexa Miednik, a Senior at #MarjoryStonemanDouglasHighSchool (https://twitter.com/hashtag/MarjoryStonemanDouglasHighSchool?src=hash) in #Parkland (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Parkland?src=hash) #Florida (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Florida?src=hash) said she believes there was a SECOND SHOOTER because she saw and spoke to the shooter #NikolasCruz (https://twitter.com/hashtag/NikolasCruz?src=hash) after shots were fired and heard shots coming from the other side of the school.

[Dachsie]

Not sure what to make of this one! (((Laura Loomer))) was/is a big name in the indy LV "event" investigation. Girl in this 1m 41s interview vid... talk about demeanor not synching with story/events! :o Vid inside:
https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer/status/964006493900234752



Laura Loomer‏ @LauraLoomer (https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer)
#BREAKING (https://twitter.com/hashtag/BREAKING?src=hash): Alexa Miednik, a Senior at #MarjoryStonemanDouglasHighSchool (https://twitter.com/hashtag/MarjoryStonemanDouglasHighSchool?src=hash) in #Parkland (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Parkland?src=hash) #Florida (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Florida?src=hash) said she believes there was a SECOND SHOOTER because she saw and spoke to the shooter #NikolasCruz (https://twitter.com/hashtag/NikolasCruz?src=hash) after shots were fired and heard shots coming from the other side of the school.




Cannot get to the actual video. When I go to twitter link, takes me to Sensitive Material questionarire.
How about the full URL of a YouTube video if available or a full URl video link on any platform?

[PatColo]

Cannot get to the actual video. When I go to twitter link, takes me to Sensitive Material questionarire.
How about the full URL of a YouTube video if available or a full URl video link on any platform?

found this longer version, haven't watched all.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/dKRU46UPnYs/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEXCNACELwBSFryq4qpAwkIARUAAIhCGAE=&rs=AOn4CLDfd5EbKDbcUZED2WmZImaaOetxvA 5:55
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKRU46UPnYs) THERE WAS A 2ND SHOOTER BESIDES NIKOLAS CRUZ AT THE FLORIDA HIGH SCHOOL? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKRU46UPnYs)
MARTY TV (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6VzZfIFg420WlNoDE46KHA)


8 hours ago
811 views

Alexa Miednik, a Senior at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland Florida Says, THERE WAS A 2ND SHOOTER


New




Loomer's tweet is still productive, with its 321+ comments, which will prolly ask/answer many of ur inevitable questions
https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer/status/964006493900234752

[Dachsie]

"Not sure what to make of this one!"

Really, PatColo?

This is typical Sunsteinian super souped-up crisis actor.

Sounds like this very pretty young lady has a multi-syllable Russian last name. Israel and Jesus and Cruz all the elements piled in on this one!

[madfranks]

This is all "tongue in cheek" Right?

Ha ha, yes, just like Hitch was being sarcastic.

[PatColo]

"Not sure what to make of this one!"

Really, PatColo?

This is typical Sunsteinian super souped-up crisis actor.

Sounds like this very pretty young lady has a multi-syllable Russian last name. Israel and Jesus and Cruz all the elements piled in on this one!

Alexa had me thinking, now (((they're))) planting "bad crisis actors" at their events, who take the "wild eyed FF/Hoax CT" side of the story.

Where she was saying how she spoke with Cruz after he'd finished shooting.... looks away & smiles for a second, OMG... and other anomalies in her interview I won't even bother typing up.

And WHO was interviewing her?! That was "unusual", not to have an identified TV network splashed around the borders of the video! "Marty TV", I guess. :rolleyes:

Just to say, imagining this was an FF, with a 2nd shooter; Alexa would've been employed by the (((perps))) to discredit the truther movement!!

[Dachsie]

Yeah, you get it.

Jesus Campos, Jesus Cruz --JEEZ that's a lot Jesus's

Cruz means cross.

"bad crisis actor"

"good crisis actor"

it's all good.

[ziero0]

I think we all know where this is going. There is certainly a trend line. Since we cannot guarantee the elimination of firearms there is only one possible solutions:

PUBLIC SCHOOLS NEED TO BE ABOLISHED

Much harder for a single or multiple shooter to take out any number of homeschooled kids than it is when they are assembled in these mass illusion institutions.

This works out well for a crumbling infrastructure as well. All those construction workers who derive their living from tearing down and rebuilding schools can be used to construct bridges and roads. All those bus drivers put out of business can be gainfully employed by UBER. All those teachers unemployed ... well, Peace Corp always has openings.

[cheka.]

when will it come out that the suspect is daca?

[cheka.]

comments from those the knew him

https://www.thedailybeast.com/nick-cruz-parkland-florida-shooting-stoneman-douglas-high-school

[cheka.]

https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/78dc7cb6c80452579447b938fdeebeba76f676fc/c=37-0-1162-1500&r=537&c=0-0-534-712/local/-/media/2018/02/15/USATODAY/USATODAY/636542751600691091-nikolas-cruz-021518.jpg

usa today is running this photo

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/02/15/nikolas-cruz-who-florida-shooting-suspect-social-media/340092002/

[Bigjon]

From Jim Stone: (http://82.221.129.208/.zg4.html)

BOOM!!!!! TOTALLY CONFIRMED: FLORIDA SHOOTING WAS A SHADOW STATE OP, AND NICHOLAS CRUZ WAS NOT INVOLVED.
After this little tidbit of info, I need not say more. Florida was done by Soros/CIA/whoever, to put a shooting on Valentines day, to embed it in the public concience like 911.


PROBLEM: IN THE FOLLOWING NEWSCAST, A WITNESS REPORTED WALKING DOWN THE SCHOOL HALLWAY WITH NICHOLAS CRUZ, GUNSHOTS CAME FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE WHILE SHE WAS WITH CRUZ, AND SHE TOLD HIM GEE, I THOUGHT THAT WHEN THIS HAPPENED IT WOULD BE YOU DOING IT. HA HA HA HA HA, OFFICIAL STORY DESTROYED IN ONE LITTLE NEWSCAST,

Supposedly Cruz did this with an assault rifle. Howd he hide that from her when she was walking beside him? That kills the second shooter angle of this!!! This was so damning I knew it would be deleted, so I am going to serve it from here and deal with whatever bandwidth issues happen.

The following video comes in as a highly compressed but perfectly usable 3gp. This will play on phones and usually on windows and always on Knoppix. Right click it to save, double click it to play.


Nicholas cruz did not do the shooting and a bumbling media blew the whole psy op clean open (http://82.221.129.208/nicholascruz.3gp)

http://82.221.129.208/nicholascruz.3gp

http://82.221.129.208/floridaschoolshooting.jpg (http://82.221.129.208/nicholascruz.3gp)

"She said, Hey I just heard shots fired, I'm surprised it's not you. Just kidding. And then he had this reaction like "what?"

http://82.221.129.208/snoopydance.jpg
FAT CHANCE HE COULD HAVE HID AN AR FROM HER JUST CASUALLY WALKING DOWN THE HALL!!!!
Here's a social media comment on this video - PRICELESS:


"holy shit....! IF SHE WAS WALKING WITH HIM DOWN THE HALLWAY AFTER THE INITIAL SHOTS WERE FIRED BY HIM...THEN WOULDN'T HE HAVE THE FUCKING GUN OR GUNS RIGHT FUCKING THERE??????"

THIS THING IS DOA!! DEAD ON ARRIVAL!! I HOPE SHE IS SAFE AND STAYS SAFE....

DOWN LOAD AND SAVE THIS VIDEO....TRIPLE BACK UP AND LOCK YER FUCKIN DOOR!!



School shooting in Florida.
My comment: Unlike Sandy Hook, this time around real people are dead. However, it was definitely a state run event, set up most likely by the CIA. Obviously we are going to have tons of theories until all this pans out, but here's where we start:


Real people dead, and the media reporting what web sites this kid visited FAR TOO EARLY. Impossibly early. When anything "impossilbe" happens, the state definitely had a hand in it. Swat arrived impossibly quick also. That's where we are at right now with uncovering exactly who did this, this time they apparently did not go for "patsy dead", he's still alive.

Hispanic.
Democrat.
Muslim?!!? GTFO!
Rumors are now surfacing he was Antifa! Expelled from school.

I have to put the drill theme back up because it looks like it has legs. A girl was on Twitter saying there was a drill for a mass shooting underway,only they did not shoot blanks, they shot real bullets. This is unconfirmed, but now more people are saying it started out as a drill.

[midnight rambler]

What I'd like to know is, how'd they find the alleged shooter so quickly some distance from the school? How'd they know it was him immediately, and how'd they locate him?


From Jim Stone: (http://82.221.129.208/.zg4.html)

BOOM!!!!! TOTALLY CONFIRMED: FLORIDA SHOOTING WAS A SHADOW STATE OP, AND NICHOLAS CRUZ WAS NOT INVOLVED.
After this little tidbit of info, I need not say more. Florida was done by Soros/CIA/whoever, to put a shooting on Valentines day, to embed it in the public concience like 911.


PROBLEM: IN THE FOLLOWING NEWSCAST, A WITNESS REPORTED WALKING DOWN THE SCHOOL HALLWAY WITH NICHOLAS CRUZ, GUNSHOTS CAME FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE WHILE SHE WAS WITH CRUZ, AND SHE TOLD HIM GEE, I THOUGHT THAT WHEN THIS HAPPENED IT WOULD BE YOU DOING IT. HA HA HA HA HA, OFFICIAL STORY DESTROYED IN ONE LITTLE NEWSCAST,

Supposedly Cruz did this with an assault rifle. Howd he hide that from her when she was walking beside him? That kills the second shooter angle of this!!! This was so damning I knew it would be deleted, so I am going to serve it from here and deal with whatever bandwidth issues happen.

The following video comes in as a highly compressed but perfectly usable 3gp. This will play on phones and usually on windows and always on Knoppix. Right click it to save, double click it to play.


Nicholas cruz did not do the shooting and a bumbling media blew the whole psy op clean open (http://82.221.129.208/nicholascruz.3gp)

http://82.221.129.208/nicholascruz.3gp

http://82.221.129.208/floridaschoolshooting.jpg (http://82.221.129.208/nicholascruz.3gp)

"She said, Hey I just heard shots fired, I'm surprised it's not you. Just kidding. And then he had this reaction like "what?"

http://82.221.129.208/snoopydance.jpg
FAT CHANCE HE COULD HAVE HID AN AR FROM HER JUST CASUALLY WALKING DOWN THE HALL!!!!
Here's a social media comment on this video - PRICELESS:


"holy shit....! IF SHE WAS WALKING WITH HIM DOWN THE HALLWAY AFTER THE INITIAL SHOTS WERE FIRED BY HIM...THEN WOULDN'T HE HAVE THE FUCKING GUN OR GUNS RIGHT FUCKING THERE??????"

THIS THING IS DOA!! DEAD ON ARRIVAL!! I HOPE SHE IS SAFE AND STAYS SAFE....

DOWN LOAD AND SAVE THIS VIDEO....TRIPLE BACK UP AND LOCK YER FUCKIN DOOR!!



School shooting in Florida.
My comment: Unlike Sandy Hook, this time around real people are dead. However, it was definitely a state run event, set up most likely by the CIA. Obviously we are going to have tons of theories until all this pans out, but here's where we start:


Real people dead, and the media reporting what web sites this kid visited FAR TOO EARLY. Impossibly early. When anything "impossilbe" happens, the state definitely had a hand in it. Swat arrived impossibly quick also. That's where we are at right now with uncovering exactly who did this, this time they apparently did not go for "patsy dead", he's still alive.

Hispanic.
Democrat.
Muslim?!!? GTFO!
Rumors are now surfacing he was Antifa! Expelled from school.

I have to put the drill theme back up because it looks like it has legs. A girl was on Twitter saying there was a drill for a mass shooting underway,only they did not shoot blanks, they shot real bullets. This is unconfirmed, but now more people are saying it started out as a drill.

[cheka.]

What I'd like to know is, how'd they find the alleged shooter so quickly some distance from the school? How'd they know it was him immediately, and how'd they locate him?

yup. and he had a gas mask on...

the early reports said they were looking for white guy with maroon shirt, black pants or shorts

[midnight rambler]

WTF is this shit??

I smell bagels.

http://wivb.com/2018/02/15/white-nationalist-militia-says-school-shooting-suspect-was-member/

[Dachsie]

"My comment: Unlike Sandy Hook, this time around real people are dead. "

BigJohn, you have the same opinion as does Jordan Sather about there being real shooting and real people shot dead and shot injured. Sather makes distinction "false flag hoaxes" and there are "false flags with real shooting and real dead victims."

...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOxgnEI8_NI...

I have not followed this Florida shooting incident except on this forum. I do not watch TV and just get everything from computer media.

Could you tell me what makes you and others here understand that

there were actually real guns and real bullets being shot

there were real people shot dead and real people with gunshot wounds ?

[cheka.]

WTF is this shit??

I smell bagels.

http://wivb.com/2018/02/15/white-nationalist-militia-says-school-shooting-suspect-was-member/

here we go --- get-whitey agenda being rolled out. using a cuban/mexican mystery meat...wtf

note the leader of the group below didnt know the shooter. we need to look into that 'leader'

White nationalist militia says school shooting suspect was member

(AP) — The leader of a white nationalist militia says Florida school shooting suspect Nikolas Cruz was a member of his group and participated in paramilitary drills in Tallahassee.

Jordan Jereb told The Associated Press on Thursday that his group wants Florida to become its own white ethno-state. He said his group holds “spontaneous random demonstrations” and tries not to participate in the modern world.

Jereb said he didn’t know Cruz personally and that “he acted on his own behalf of what he just did and he’s solely responsible for what he just did.”

He also said he had “trouble with a girl” and he believed the timing of the attack, carried out on Valentine’s Day, wasn’t a coincidence.

Nineteen-year-old Cruz has been charged with 17 counts of premeditated murder in the shooting.

[cheka.]

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2014/militiaman-down

Jordan Jereb, the head of the Republic of Florida (ROF), a would-be militia made up of kids barely old enough to buy guns, was missing. He was a no-show for an interview we had scheduled with him in August. He wasn’t answering his phone. He hadn’t told us he was going to be late. At best, he was standing us up. At worst, he had played us for fools and very soon would post secretly recorded video of “SPLC goons.”

It wasn’t out of the realm of possibility.

Jereb had been posting an onslaught of videos for months. Filming with a handful of high school friends, Jereb and company had warned of a tyrannical global power running the world, instructed viewers on knife fighting and emergency “bug out” bags — and more than a few videos showed Jereb rolling down hills in what was supposed to be a demonstration of paramilitary tactics and training.

But when opportunity finally knocked, the man who liked to roll down hills as he played Army was nowhere to be found. It turned out his outlaw fantasies had finally caught up with him.

It all looked pretty silly, like the kids who hang out at the Army surplus store after school and play army while their friends are out chasing girls.

But it was just enough to bring us to Tallahassee, Fla., last August. Heidi Beirich, director of the Intelligence Project, and I had hoped Jereb might take us on patrol, that we could ask him about his antics with ROF and, most importantly, tell us just what he hoped to achieve by embracing just about every right-wing ideology there is — from neo-Confederate calls for secession, to survivalism and prepping, even the occasional Nazi salute in front of a webcam.

Jereb was a weird character even in the extremist underworld to which he so badly wanted to belong. While almost every neo-Nazi, militiaman, nativist and racist despises the Intelligence Report, Jereb wanted desperately to be mentioned in these pages. He flooded us with pleas for attention. In one E-mail, he even included a manual titled Jackass Warfare: How punk kids could destroy an oppressive government, filled with ways to blow things up and descriptions of how “legally being an asshole” can change the world.

In another E-mail, Jereb welcomed the chance to explain his ideas. “We embrace SPLC because your organization helps us with out [sic] outlaw image. … The spirit of rebellion is not stopped by SPLC but rather fueled [sic] for the flames,” Jereb wrote.

But when the day came for our interview, Jereb was nowhere to be found.;

We sipped on our sodas, debated getting some lunch, counted the minutes and felt very much that we’d been had. His voicemail message warned of the New World Order, but neither it nor Jereb was answering. The attendant at his extended-stay hotel hadn’t seen him in days.

What followed was a quick and dirty tour of Tallahassee to figure out just what had happened to Jereb. His last E-mail said he had a court appointment for eight-month-old burglary charges the day of the interview, but he didn’t expect that to take too long. We checked a mailing address for the ROF, an empty home, spoke with a few confused neighbors and finally landed at the steps of the Leon County Jail.

Turns out Jereb’s outlaw fantasies weren’t fantasies at all.

The day before our interview, Jereb, along with his second-in-command, C.J. Taylor, was picked up by law enforcement, which had grown increasingly worried of the threatening rhetoric coming from Jereb and his friends. They were charged with trespassing after allegedly entering their old high school. And while Taylor was later released, Jereb remained jailed without bond at press time.

It’s hard to say just what Jereb had hoped to achieve chasing after these pages, or what his foray into the radical right was all about. Maybe he read all the wrong books, if he read them at all, and found in the underbelly of American hate and extremism a subculture he could call his own. Maybe this is only a beginning.

But as a final message to Mr. Jereb, in case this falls into his lap in jail, while this may not be the profile you desperately wanted, it’s all we had to work with. Just know that we’ll be waiting when you get out to go on patrol with you through those quiet neighborhoods of Tallahassee.

But you may want to rethink your job. Tallahassee seems to be doing just fine without you.

[Dachsie]

" cuban/mexican mystery meat...wtf" Thanks for the only good belly laugh I have had in quite a while.

Notice Russian spelling of Nikolas Cruz.
Noticed blond girl who told about the second shooter had Russian last name.
So definitely some borscht soup mixed in to all this.

Also we have the hit on Christians and Catholics big time in this.
Ash Wednesday date of event.
Hispanic with cross marks on their foreheads from Ash Wednesday church service

I remember under Obama - Joe Biden admin, Biden came on TV news talking about some event and he had ashes on his forehead but not visible as a cross.
Somebody called in to Dr. Stan's radio show and said Biden had "the mark of the beast"
I had to call in and tell that it was Ash Wedesday and Biden puports to be a Catholic so he got the mark at a Catholic church service.

[cheka.]

it's reported that his dead adopted mother's name is (((lynda))) cruz

and the skool is named after a jewish writer/social activist/feminist

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marjory_Stoneman_Douglas

[PatColo]

Notice Russian spelling of Nikolas Cruz.
Noticed blond girl who told about the second shooter had Russian last name.
So definitely some borscht soup mixed in to all this.

nothing "definite" re peeps' identities in these (((PsyOps))), ;)

several POTUS tweets since yest re the FL "event", https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump incl one 20 mins ago.

[midnight rambler]

Splashing on Drudge right now: Cruz The White Supremacist

http://abcnews.go.com/US/students-parents-desperate-answers-police-investigate-florida-school/story?id=53103817

[PatColo]

flurry of Q posts in past 1-2 hrs all about mind control, incl via frequencies, phones, MK Ultra; mentions:

Have any recent [shooters] received therapy in the past?

https://qcodefag.github.io/

[Dachsie]

"nothing "definite" re peeps' identities in these (((PsyOps)))"

"mystery meat"

reminds me

of Fox TV news slogan...

"Fair and Balanced" and "We Report, You Decide."

In both cases the exact opposite was usually true.

_________

They've got us so overloaded with data that we are so confused and can't make a lick of sense out it.

THEY have turned us into a bunch of rats running around in a broken maze -- just where THEY want us.

Still holding on to a little hope in Q and saving our republic but moving over more to prayer time these days.

Q is bombarding us with Q posts and a deluge of military code and other code that nobody knows what it means.
That is no help to us, Q.

"Everything is believable and nothing is knowable."

frequent expression of Dr. James Fetzer

___________

I believe in looking for and loving Truth.
Expose and illuminate error and let the light of Truth shine through.

THEY want us to just "wake up"

and

"ever learning but never coming to the truth"

and

just make "my personal opinion and interpretation" to be the new "truth."

forget the God-given nature of man as a rational reasoning creature.

Forget

Fides et Ratio

[Horn]

Mr Cruz was member of the Republic of Florida (ROF), a white supremacist group, US media reported. The head of the ROF, Jordan Jereb, is quoted as saying

"Mr Cruz had once trained with them, but the group had not wanted or ordered him to carry out a school shooting."


Did you order anyone else to?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43070359

[midnight rambler]

Cruz confesses -

https://www.apnews.com/892a28db92924e2faa15e7b90a5b843f/The-Latest:-Police-report:-Suspect-confessed-to-shooting

[cheka.]

israel guy just said that tomorrow is the sabbath, we are aware of that (paraphrased)......he was talking about the deceased and releasing them to their families

what did he mean by the sabbath comment?

edit -- maybe he said shabbat? i cant find anything on the sabbath and death timeline

[Dachsie]

israel guy just said that tomorrow is the sabbath, we are aware of that (paraphrased)......he was talking about the deceased and releasing them to their families

what did he mean by the sabbath comment?

Source? Then maybe can answer.

[cheka.]

him comment about sabbath/shabbat was probably for the handful of jewish

https://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-students-among-dead-injured-in-florida-school-shooting/

Jewish students among dead, injured in Florida school shooting

One of the 17 victims identified as Jaime Guttenberg; local rabbis offer counseling, services after rampage

Rabbi Bradd Boxman of Kol Tikvah, a Reform congregation in the town inland from Boca Raton, said he knew of at least four Jewish high school students among the wounded, including three from his congregation. They were in area hospitals and had undergone surgery.

Local 10 News, an ABC affiliate, named one of the dead students as Jaime Guttenberg, who was Jewish.

“A huge number went to that school,” Bosman said of his congregants.

Health professionals who gathered at Kol Tikvah walked the high school students through the beginning stages of coping with the trauma, Boxman said. “Within our own community we have many mental health professionals to rely on,” the rabbi said, and many of them rushed to the synagogue to set up counseling services. “It was a place to come for refuge.”

“We just pulled together as a community, the surrounding congregations, to be there for our kids and families, getting the kids to have an opportunity to speak to their experience and begin the healing process in the community,” said Geri Pomerantz, the president of Kol Tikvah.

[Dachsie]

him comment about sabbath/shabbat was probably for the handful of jewish

https://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-students-among-dead-injured-in-florida-school-shooting/

Jewish students among dead, injured in Florida school shooting

One of the 17 victims identified as Jaime Guttenberg; local rabbis offer counseling, services after rampage

Rabbi Bradd Boxman of Kol Tikvah, a Reform congregation in the town inland from Boca Raton, said he knew of at least four Jewish high school students among the wounded, including three from his congregation. They were in area hospitals and had undergone surgery.

Local 10 News, an ABC affiliate, named one of the dead students as Jaime Guttenberg, who was Jewish.

“A huge number went to that school,” Bosman said of his congregants.

Health professionals who gathered at Kol Tikvah walked the high school students through the beginning stages of coping with the trauma, Boxman said. “Within our own community we have many mental health professionals to rely on,” the rabbi said, and many of them rushed to the synagogue to set up counseling services. “It was a place to come for refuge.”

“We just pulled together as a community, the surrounding congregations, to be there for our kids and families, getting the kids to have an opportunity to speak to their experience and begin the healing process in the community,” said Geri Pomerantz, the president of Kol Tikvah.



Checka,

I just went to the full, 9 or 10 page article, put it in print view and did two searches on the word Sabbath and then Shabbat

Would you believe noting came up at all. For some reason I do not think Control F feature works on articles from that timesofisrael site.

Anyway, I was looking for the part where they would be "released to their families."

I will give you my interpretation but do not have the sentences around or the specific text to comment upon.

This rabbi did some kin of healing ceremony for families and kids who went to same school where the Levin boy was said to have died and they had that ceremony today, Thursday Feb 15, which is the day before sabbath, which begins at sundown on Fridays.

So I think what he meant was the "kids" at the healing of community ceremony held by the rabbi were going to be "released" to their families meaning the ceremony was ending and all present would go home to be together with their families and bring in the sabbath on the next "day" -- in Hebrew a "day" begins at sundown one day and then goes to sundown the next day. Evening and morning etc... just like Genesis days of Creation.

Best I could do.

[JDRock]

As usual, the best and most detailed facts about yet another "random" shooter ANYWHERE on the web is found here! Kudos! great job again!

[midnight rambler]

Lyin' Brian Williams asks student what should be done about this sort of situation, (hopefully) setting up a comment supporting gun control, gets a surprise instead (@ 3:28)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Myrpp7xhmm4

[Dachsie]

Lyin' Brian Williams asks student what should be done about this sort of situation, (hopefully) setting up a comment supporting gun control, gets a surprise instead (@ 3:28)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Myrpp7xhmm4

Hate to be cynical again, but although said some words that appear to have been unexpected and off script, I assure you that could have been totally on script to make it sound more unscripted.

[midnight rambler]

Hate to be cynical again, but although said some words that appear to have been unexpected and off script, I assure you that could have been totally on script to make it sound more unscripted.

So...what's your preference? Indica, sativa, crack, or salvia divinorum??

[Dachsie]

Guess I do not understand what you just wrote, but you seem to be saying ' stop being cynical ' "stop expressing your thoughts' 'Be positive." "take good news at face value and believe Brandon was the real deal'

My preference is to look at all angles and try to come to the best most truthful interpretation.

[PatColo]

I see Jake Morphonios, "Blackstone Intelligence" channel formerly "End Times News Report", prolly the most watched indy/YT Vegas "event" investigator, has taken up the FL event. Here's a dump since yesterday.

1m 24s cell phone video at the top of Jake's https://www.blackstoneintel.com with shooting & blood.




https://i.ytimg.com/vi/dqqWr2jAfgI/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEXCNACELwBSFryq4qpAwkIARUAAIhCGAE=&rs=AOn4CLDcdptSe_azhGn_klzfu3WAEBWmBw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqqWr2jAfgI) 7:37
Florida School Shooting - FBI Knew About Nikolas Cruz In Advance of Massacre (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqqWr2jAfgI)

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2 hours ago




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Students At Florida School Shooting Report Crisis Drills and Multiple Shooters (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g67mCOP75sk)

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BOMBSHELL - Florida High School Student Heard Multiple Shooters & Talked To Nikolas Cruz (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5rl366Z6b8)

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YouTube Censorship, Zionism & Mass Mind Control (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ8eX1K_hQw)

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The Florida School Shooting Cell Phone Footage is Frightening (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTjqBPkVFLs)

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Florida High School Shooting - FIRST PHOTOS - #Parkland (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiUeUnkKEPA)

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Florida High School Shooting in #Parkland - Latest News on #FloridaShooting from the Sun Sentinel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjP4zQqBtGQ)

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[cheka.]

Source? Then maybe can answer.

no source, this is what i saw on live tv press conference

[Dachsie]

I only watched one of the videos of Jake.

https://www.blackstoneintel.com/

The cell phone footage. I could tell by the sounds/audio, it was the real deal. Did not have the guts to actually watch the video.

So this has convinced me the event was not a false flag hoax. It was a real deal false flag with real gunshots and real people really shot and injured.

Still this is a false event and though the tragic aspect of this is real and real people killed or injured. It carries almost all the major traits of other false events of the past where real people were not actually killed or injured by the "shooter." I guess that is why I am not going to watch any of the other videos of Jake's you dumped.

It is particularly difficult to find truth when you see that the false event was most real, true and accurate in its most important trait.

P.S.

Wonder why Jake changed his YouTube channel name to Blackstone Intelligence. Hope it has nothing whatsoever to do with The Blackstone Group. That company has a very dicey history.

Here is one item.

http://inthesetimes.com/article/19564/3-reasons-to-be-worried-about-the-blackstone-groupand-their-friend-hillary


http://inthesetimes.com/article/19564/3-reasons-to-be-worried-about-the-blackstone-groupand-their-friend-hillary

Web Only / Features » October 19, 2016
3 Reasons To Be Worried About the Blackstone Group—and Their Friend, Hillary Clinton

Leaked emails show Clinton’s advisers sought to “develop a real relationship with” the controversial private equity firm.
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Buried among the thousands of John Podesta’s emails released over the last week, you’ll find a short, revealing exchange between Hillary Clinton campaign chair John Podesta and Neera Tanden, president of the Center for American Progress and Clinton advisor-in-waiting.

[cheka.]

it's reported that his dead adopted mother's name is (((lynda))) cruz

and the skool is named after a jewish writer/social activist/feminist

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marjory_Stoneman_Douglas


from (((lynda))) to this:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-15/florida-school-shooter-linked-white-supremacist-group

After his mother died, he and his brother were left in the care of family friend (((Barbara Kumbatovich))), of Long Island, New York, but unhappy there, he moved in with a former classmate in a mobile home park in northwest Broward.

[cheka.]

from same link above:

Meanwhile, the Mail has published a detailed list of all the alleged "warning signs" about Cruz and his intentions that were simply missed or ignored...

1. 'I'm going to be a professional school shooter'

Nikolas Cruz left a comment on a YouTube video back in September using his own name that simply read: 'I'm going to be a professional school shooter'

2. FBI was warned about the comment but couldn't identify him

Vlogger Ben Bennight alerted the FBI to the comment shared by Cruz. The FBI was quick to respond, arriving at his office the next day but only after Bennight called a local field agent, revealing his initial attempts to send in a screengrab of the comment failed when the email address he found listed on the agency's website came back with a domain error saying it did not exist. The FBI was unable to identify the person who posted the comment.

3. Bought an AR-15 age 18

After Cruz's mother died, he eventually moved in the the family of a former classmate, where he brought his AR-15 which was kept in a locked cabinet that he had the key to. He was able to purchase the rifle in the past year and passed a required background check. Federal law allowed people 18 and over to legally purchase long guns. At 21, people can legally buy handguns from a license dealer

4. Troubling Instagram page

Cruz's Instagram page is filled with disturbing posts of what appears to be himself showing off with weapons with his face covered, asking for advice on buying firearms, and making racist comments about Muslims.

5. Was a member of a white nationalist group and came to training exercises

Jordan Jereb claims that Cruz was a member of the Republic of Florida, which aims to make Florida its own white-entho state. Jereb claimed Cruz, who was adopted, was brought up in the organization by another member and he reportedly carpooled to at least two training exercises held by the group.

6. Boasted about hurting animals

Students who say they knew Cruz claimed he liked to kill animals.

'He was crazy because he liked to kill small things, like little animals - frogs and other animals like that and he just had a crazy mind,' one told 10ABC news.

Another classmate claims he would tell him he shot rats with a BB gun.

7. Took knives and bullets to school

Former classmate Joshua Charo, 16, said all he 'would talk about is guns, knives and hunting'.

Another student said he started selling knives out of a lunchbox when he started high school.

8. Was banned from carrying a backpack

Jim Gard, a math teacher, who had Cruz in his class last year, said he believes the school sent out an email warning teachers he shouldn't be allowed on campus with a backpack.

'There were problems with him last year threatening students and I guess he was asked to leave campus'.

9. Expelled for fighting

The deeply troubled 'loner' was expelled last year for 'fighting over his ex-girlfriend' with her new boyfriend.

10. Abusive to his ex-girlfriend

Students claim the gunman was abusive to his girlfriend

11. Stalked another girl

Mr Gard also claimed that he was taken with another student 'to the point of stalking her', while another student who claims to have been friends with Cruz said he had to cut him off because he started 'going after' and 'threatening' a female friend of his.

12. Peeping Tom

Neighbor Christine Rosburgh said she, and all the other neighbors, were terrified of the teen who would bang his head against a cement wall if his legal guardians tried to send him to school.

She also claims she caught him peeking in her window and when she confronted him, he said he was looking for golf balls.

'I said, "This isn't the golf course".

13. Stopped his mental health treatment

Cruz had been getting treatment at a mental health clinic, but stopped about a year ago and dropped off the radar. He was showing signs of depression.

Broward County Mayor Beam Furr said: 'It wasn't like there wasn't concern for him. We try to keep out eyes out on those kids who aren't connected... In this case, we didn't find a way to connect with this kid.'

14. Possible fetal alcohol syndrome

Natalie Brassard, a program director at the non-profit FASCETS, which works with FASD children, said some of Cruz's characteristics 'suggest that he might have been living with an invisible brain-based condition - it could have been FASD or many others.'

Conditions of FASD can range from mild to severe but can include learning disabilities, intellectual disability or low IQ, poor reasoning and judgment and a host of other issues.

15. Orphaned

Cruz's adoptive mother, Lynda Cruz, 68, died of pneumonia in November last year. She was one of the only people that was remotely close to Cruz. His adoptive father Roger Cruz died of a heart attack several years ago.

After his mother died, he and his brother were left in the care of family friend Barbara Kumbatovich, of Long Island, New York, but unhappy there, he moved in with a former classmate in a mobile home park in northwest Broward.

[Dachsie]

"alleged "warning signs" about Cruz and his intentions that were simply missed or ignored.."

I still do not assume that the shooter or shooters was Cruz, but going with the Cruz info for argument's sake, all those major warning signs and every one of them over a long period of time was "simply missed or ignored" by all.

Now doesn't that revelation add insult to injury and make all the parents and family and school students feel deeply afraid and distrustful of "the system"?

Could that be the reaction wanted to be evoked?

Still going with Cruz-only-shooter idea, could not Cruz have been a sort of "targeted individual" combined with a "Manchurian candidate" engineered long gunman?

[Dachsie]

In regard to


BOMBSHELL - Florida High School Student Heard Multiple Shooters & Talked To Nikolas Cruz

Urban Moving YT channel just put out this video. I have not watched any of his other videos on this event but plan to do so tomorrow as I regard him as a truth teller.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXO3J7pBZyA

Alexa Miednik Witness Who Saw Cruz While Shots Were Being Fired Is a Real Person
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Says Alex is a real person. Thinks she is a typical high school millennial type or age group. Has extensive social media history. Sure hope that is not the accepted behavior of the typical high school girl, but Urban Moving thinks it is, so maybe it is. Anyway, he thinks she is a real regular high school girl at that school. He says the girl points to Cruz being "SET UP" and not being the actual shooter. At first I had the impression that Alexa's main message was that there was a "second" or "more than one" shooter, but really her main message is that there was no way Cruz was the shooter because she was talking with Cruz while the shooting was actually going on.

Urban Moving then goes on to castigate Broward County Sherriff and law enforcement for not doing their job in gathering evidence on this event.

[PatColo]

New from Jake M.; sounds like an FL/Vegas combo meal; another one in my "will listen later" queue :)

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bw-SeKOgnZg/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEXCNACELwBSFryq4qpAwkIARUAAIhCGAE=&rs=AOn4CLDvJwgY2HySjhawPGxm21Lm5JunUA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw-SeKOgnZg) 54:05
Florida Shooting & Las Vegas Autopsy - Patriot Nation Radio Interview (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw-SeKOgnZg)



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Mark (((Left v Right))) Dice today-- among other points, highlights how Adam Schiff was actually arguing how the (((Russian Bots))) have also been influencing the (((2nd Amendment "debate"))) lol :D

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Dehn1M0rTDk/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEXCNACELwBSFryq4qpAwkIARUAAIhCGAE=&rs=AOn4CLBIPs85I0TXcUGOTLR5AQF-6tLBsA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dehn1M0rTDk) 4:54
Guess What the Russian Bots Did Now! �� (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dehn1M0rTDk)



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[PatColo]

"Black Conservative Patriot (https://www.youtube.com/user/semajthethird/videos)", who I discovered last year when he was more of a P*Gate activist. Check his other vids while you're there,



https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uFII41XSNVM/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEXCNACELwBSFryq4qpAwkIARUAAIhCGAE=&rs=AOn4CLBaYAe-AtTP9ny0q3drAHBXE53k0Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFII41XSNVM) 10:06
Parkland Shooting Has ALL THE TELL-TALE SIGNS of a False Flag: Timing, MK Ultra, Lone Wolf, Drills (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFII41XSNVM)

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Black Callous Patriot: FL Story a Planned Distraction (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSE1BhjZRBM)

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9 hours ago

[vacuum]

We should give Trump some credit for not cucking on guns. He could easily do so, but so far hasn't.

[Down1]

The White Nationalist/Supremacists angle is a lie.

[Dachsie]

Just a reminder that this school shooting is the type of "false flag" event that entails very real shooting and very real dead and injured persons. But all around this fact are many many signs that the whole event was false in that it was designed, planned and orchestrated in every way and there is much falsity in the after math public media coverage of the event and the way "the government" is presenting the event to the public so as to social engineer and manipulate the public rather than show professional investigating and dealing with the case in a way that will strongly uphold justice.

THEIR goal is to get us all going down the tried and true rabbit holes and not ever being able to effect justice in the management of this event. Unless this case plays out very different from all the other false events, there will be no truth and justice served, only the political manipulation and goals served.

[Cebu_4_2]

Now this is some very scary stuff:


'He was crazy because he liked to kill small things, like little animals - frogs and other animals like that and he just had a crazy mind,' one told 10ABC news.

Another classmate claims he would tell him he shot rats with a BB gun.

[PatColo]

The White Nationalist/Supremacists angle is a lie.

Laura Ingram, she of >2M twitter followers, agrees. Can skim 1.8K comments:
https://twitter.com/IngrahamAngle/status/964282389374619649


(https://twitter.com/IngrahamAngle/status/964282389374619649)
Laura Ingraham‏Verified account @IngrahamAngl (https://twitter.com/IngrahamAngle)
The white nationalist connection to shooter was #FakeNews (https://twitter.com/hashtag/FakeNews?src=hash)
http://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/2018/02/15/florida-school-shooting-suspect-nikolas-cruz-member-white-nationalist-militia-tallahassee-leader-say/341751002/
3:36 PM - 15 Feb 2018




So (((SPLC's))) implausible 'evil white nationalist :o' spin attempt has withered up & blown away; waiting for (((Pam Geller's))) 'scary muzzie extremist :o' gambit to do the same.

As these dinjoo-nuffins know though, their psych agenda is already achieved just by injecting their lies into the narrative while the story is 'hot', still unfolding, (((MSM))) still in Wall-to-Wall mode. Those who receive said (((lie injection))) while 'traumatized', internalize it, and un-doing those (((internalized lies))) even after those lies have withered & collapsed, not likely.... :rolleyes:

[PatColo]

couple segments from last night's Richie Allen Show,



https://i.ytimg.com/vi/DkKSqhEjHd4/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEXCNACELwBSFryq4qpAwkIARUAAIhCGAE=&rs=AOn4CLA5XzbxSkCfB2sDcrnOR6Lg2zS0mQ 17:31 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkKSqhEjHd4)
The Truther Industrial Complex Is On Fire After The Florida School Shooting. Click Bait Rules. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkKSqhEjHd4)

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Wayne Madsen On Mass Shootings, Gun Control, Militarised Police, Mental Health & Guns & More. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D5sT_vsZ8Y)

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[cheka.]

and as usual, a strong connection to nyc.dc

also, cops were called to his house 39 times

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article200373444.html

It started with the killer arriving in an Uber. It ended with his peaceful arrest, after he escaped to a Walmart, where he bought a drink at the Subway inside.

An arrest report makes it clear that staffers at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High immediately recognized Nikolas Cruz as a “former troubled student” as he emerged Wednesday from a small gold Uber car, carrying a black duffel bag and wearing a black hat. One staffer radioed a co-worker to alert authorities that Cruz was “walking purposefully” toward the school in Parkland.

But within seconds, it was too late. Cruz, according to an arrest report, methodically began firing an AR-15 assault rifle that had been stashed in the bag, methodically mowing down students and adults in the hallways. As chaos ensued, Cruz admitted to homicide detectives, the gunman ditched the gun to “blend into the crowd” fleeing the school.


The charging document filled in some details of the shooting that left 17 people dead and 15 wounded but did not address perhaps the biggest question — why. Cruz, who fellow students and former teachers say had a troubled history of fighting and had once been suspended for bringing bullets in a backpack, had been formally expelled from the school a year earlier. Many at the school speculate that’s why he picked out his old school as a target for revenge.

But whether Cruz, who made his first court appearance in Broward County criminal court on Thursday and was held with no bond, gave detectives a clear or coherent motive for the crime during hours of questioning remains unknown. He said little during a brief hearing as a judge declared there was probable cause for him to be held on 17 counts of first-degree murder.

He is now on suicide watch at the Broward County jail. The details of his mental health and his tumultuous life could become a factor as lawyers begin to mount a defense. Broward chief assistant public defender Gordon Weekes, whose office represented Cruz at the brief hearing told reporters: “He is deeply troubled.”

Suspected school shooter Nikolas Cruz makes a video appearance in Broward County court before Judge Kim Theresa Mollica. Cruz is facing 17 charges of premeditated murder in the mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland.


That was no surprise to his former neighbors in Parkland, who recalled a troubled child.

Police repeatedly visited his Parkland home because of his erratic, sometimes violent behavior, which included pelting a neighbor’s car with eggs. Jug-eared with freckles, he sometimes sat on the curb alone, avoided by neighborhood kids. He tormented animals, shooting at rodents and chickens with a BB gun.

“That child had an extremely cold stare,” said neighbor Rhonda Roxburgh. “He was going to hurt somebody. I just didn’t know it would be this bad.”

While the exact nature of Cruz’s mental state remains unknown — one relative said he suffered from autism — it is clear the teenager struggled with deep emotional outbursts for years, providing plenty of warning signs preceding the worst school shooting in Florida history. How Broward schools dealt with his episodes, and whether anything could have prevented his rampage, remain shrouded in secrecy because of federal student-privacy laws.

Cruz and his young brother, Zachary Cruz, were adopted at a young age by Lynda and Roger Cruz, who moved to South Florida from New York. Lynda was a stay-at-home mother, while Roger worked in advertising before his death nearly 15 years ago, relatives said.

As Nikolas got older and acted out, Cruz’s adoptive mother was always “very apologetic,” said former neighbor Shelby Speno, whose car was pelted by eggs hurled by the boy.

“I think she had her hands full,” Speno said.

His adoptive father died in 2004, according to court records. And Cruz’s troubling behavior grew worse as he got older in a quiet neighborhood of spacious homes, some gated or fenced off from the street. Speno said she once saw him shooting at a neighbor’s chickens. Other neighbors reported him shooting at squirrels, poking a rabbit hole with a stick and setting his family’s dog on another neighbor’s piglets.

He was “just a little bit creepy,” Speno said. “I would wave and he would stare back.”

Cruz’s younger brother, Zachary, was quiet and caused no problems, often skateboarding around the neighborhood, residents said. The Cruz family sold the home for $575,000 in early 2017, according to Broward County property records.

At school, classmates knew Cruz as a loner who talked mostly about his love of weapons. In his social media posts, he sported dark bandanas over his face, and beanies and baseball caps on his head. In one post, he wielded knives between his fingers as though they were claws. In another, he showed off a small black handgun.

In one image, Cruz appeared to wear a red Make America Great Again cap, boasting the campaign slogan of President Donald Trump. But what ideology, if any, Cruz espoused is unclear — he also posted an image of an Arabic phrase meaning “God is great.”

The leader of a Florida white militant group on Wednesday claimed Cruz was a member, but offered no proof and acknowledged he himself had not met the teen.

Speaking on WIOD-610 AM radio Thursday morning, Broward Sheriff Scott Israel said Cruz’s social media posts were troubling.

“We saw a pic yesterday where he took a chameleon and he splattered the chameleon,” Israel said. “Things like this, that’s not normal behavior.”

His posts certainly caught the attention of fellow students at Douglas High, where Cruz joined the Junior Reserve Officers’ Training Corps but was known for having few friends.

Cruz had a troubled history there, where he had been suspended for fights and having ammunition in his backpack, leading administrators to ban him from having a backpack, according to students. He was later expelled for “disciplinary reasons” — although exactly why remains unknown.

Despite his alarming behavior over the years, Cruz had no record of arrests. He was able to purchase a .223-caliber rifle from Sunrise Tactical, a gun shop in Coral Springs in February 2017 after instantly clearing an FBI background check, according to police.

Ironically, Cruz could not have bought a handgun such as a 9mm Glock pistol because the purchaser has to be at least 21 years old under U.S. law. Yet, anyone who is at least 18 and clears a criminal background check can legally buy a rifle or shotgun in the United States.

There was another warning sign across the country later that year.

Cruz appeared to have left an ominous comment on a Mississippi man’s YouTube channel in September. Ben Bennight, a Gulfport bail bondsman who goes by “Ben the Bondsman” on YouTube, said in a video posted Wednesday night that he spoke to FBI agents in September about a comment left on one of his videos by someone with the username “nikolas cruz.”

“Im going to be a professional school shooter,” the commenter wrote.


In the video, Bennight says he immediately reported the comment to YouTube and to the local FBI field office.

But South Florida’s FBI Special Agent in Charge told reporters that investigators — after “reviews and checks” — could not identify the user behind the YouTube comment.

“We were unable to identify the person who made the comment,” Rob Lasky said at a news conference, adding that no other information included with that comment would “indicate a time, location, or the true identity of the person who made the comment.”

On Wednesday, FBI agents in Mississippi and South Florida contacted Bennight again in the hours after the shooting to ask questions about the disturbing comment.

“I wish that the information could have prevented this from happening,” he said near the end of the video. “But it was a generic comment, and you know, people say things. Keyboard commandos type things all the time that they don’t mean.”

In November, just a few months after the online comment was made, Lynda Cruz died. She succumbed to a respiratory illness, according to a relative in New York.

Weekes, the defense lawyer, said: “Emotionally, he has gone through a lot in a very short period of time with the loss of his mother.”

By January, Cruz had enrolled at Pompano’s Cross Creek School — a campus specifically for emotionally troubled students — where employees had to escort him from class to class. He also moved in with a friend in Pompano Beach, attending class and working at a nearby Dollar Tree store in Parkland.

The friend’s father, James Snead, asked him to keep the AR-15 locked in a cabinet. However, Cruz did not go to school Wednesday morning, delivering a cryptic remark to a friend.

“He said, ‘It’s Valentine’s Day and I don’t go to school on Valentine’s Day,’ ” said attorney Jim Lewis, who is representing the Snead family.

That afternoon, Broward authorities say Cruz took the Uber to his former school, carrying a black duffel bag with his rifle and plenty of extra ammo.

According to Israel, the shooter at 2:19 p.m. entered the east stairwell of building 12, walking back and forth into classrooms firing. He went to a second story, fired into classroom 1234, then fled to the third story, where he dropped the bag and the weapon.

Cruz, police said, ran down the stairs and ran across a field — along with other students. “With others who were fleeing, he tried to mix in,” Israel said.

Then Cruz walked into a Walmart, where he bought a drink at the Subway there. At 3:01 p.m., Cruz walked into a nearby McDonald’s and sat down for awhile. By 3:41 p.m. as police were scrambling to find the slender teen wearing a burgundy polo, Coconut Creek patrolman Michael Leonard spotted Cruz while scouring the neighborhood.

[Dachsie]

There is much MSM news coverage of Cruz on the subjects of his long history of problems with the law. Cops called to his house 39 times in last few years - etc.

All of this may be true but it all ASSUMES Cruz is the "lone shooter" or is "a shooter at all."

May be the old Sunsteinian "mysterious pods, In Plane Sight, on the cartoon plane" that crashed into the South Tower on 9-11 routine.

[madfranks]

Now this is some very scary stuff:


'He was crazy because he liked to kill small things, like little animals - frogs and other animals like that and he just had a crazy mind,' one told 10ABC news.

Another classmate claims he would tell him he shot rats with a BB gun.



What's kinda disturbing about this is that there's a brand new show out on Netflix glorifying this exact thing, making it look cool and edgy. I'm not kidding:

https://www.spin.com/2018/01/the-end-of-the-fing-world-is-a-nearly-perfect-single-season-of-tv-hopefully-it-stays-that-way/


He suspects he is a psychopath, and plans to use the trip as an opportunity to murder his travel mate, Alyssa. He has good reason for his suspicions: In the opening episode, James recounts sticking his hand in a deep fryer as a child in an effort to feeling something. More recently, he’s become obsessed with death, killing stray animals and cataloging them in his mind.

This ^^ is the "entertainment" that young kids are watching today.

[midnight rambler]

What's kinda disturbing about this is that there's a brand new show out on Netflix glorifying this exact thing, making it look cool and edgy. I'm not kidding:

https://www.spin.com/2018/01/the-end-of-the-fing-world-is-a-nearly-perfect-single-season-of-tv-hopefully-it-stays-that-way/



This ^^ is the "entertainment" that young kids are watching today.

It's (((programming))), (((they))) know exactly what they're doing and it is definitely intentional.

[Horn]

I watched that Netfli, kid realizes once he gets a piece of ass and changes his attitide. He is hero otherwise.

[madfranks]

I watched that Netfli, kid realizes once he gets a piece of ass and changes his attitide. He is hero otherwise.

How many teenagers feel isolated and alone, that nobody understands them? Lots. And in this show, it's the isolated kid nobody understands who is the cool psychopath killer. So, how many of the teenagers who watch the show will identify with this "hero" and want to be more like him, since he's the cool hero of the show?

[Horn]

Must've been a different series, my Netfli the dude weren't cool. He just stabbed some rapist by chance and became a hero of sorts.

[JDRock]

The White Nationalist/Supremacists angle is a lie.
That has been sourced SHOCKINGLY to the adl.in they are desperate to pin this on a white guy. But hes a breed all the way- right down to his phony hair color. Dejesus cruz yeah hes white(sarc)

[Dachsie]

Here is Dr. James Fetzer's article about this Florida event.

http://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/2018/02/

Thursday, February 15, 2018
A "False Flag" for Valentine's Day: Suppressing "False Flags on Five Fronts"

Jim Fetzer

"It was bad enough when the purported Douglas High School shooter showed up wearing a MAGA hat to create a cartoon simple enough for most American's to "get it": This is what Trump means by "Making America Great Again"! But State of the Nation (14 February 2018) has done the nation a valuable service by exposing the most ludicrous elements of another in a seemingly endless series of fabricated shootings, this time, like Sandy Hook, at another school, only not a CT elementary but a FL high school, where the shooter has been reported to have been speaking with another student at the time the shooting was taking place:" SNIP

Here is the State of the Nation article referenced...

http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=94416

VALENTINE’S DAY MASSACRE: Here’s why the Florida high school mass shooting was a false flag black operation
Posted on February 14, 2018 by State of the Nation
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Immediate Demands for Gun Control
All the usual Democrats, who have attempted to gut the Second Amendment over many years, were tweeting the urgency to strip Americans of their right to bear arms while the crime scene was in the early stages of investigation.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=LmRG-fVi1iE

back to Dr. Fetzer's coverage ... he focused mainly on why anti-Trump and Democrat anti-guns theme fit perfectly for timing of Florida event, place of the event, and type of weapon said to have been used in the event.

Second shooter meme is present - not sure who first shooter is supposed to be .
Not sure Dr. Fetzer even believes any person was actually killed or injured in Florida or if anyone was actually shot as he seemed to question all that on a recent Gary King channel show on YouTube.

All I base my acceptance that real people were killed and hurt was on that very blurred 4 minute phone video. Sounds seemed very real and could not make myself look at the students being shot. But it is not impossible that that 4 minute phone video was somehow a fake too.

As usual we have no way to get quality information.
"Shooter" Cruz has been portrayed as white supremacist, Trump supporter, hispanic, mentally ill and long-time scrapes with the law.

[Dogman]

Looking at the latest.


This shooting and calls for political change and laws may have growing legs.

Mixed feelings myself, but this mass shooting crap in this country , needs to stop, but it really never will.

Tho sum here wish they can unload on they that disagree with them, because they do not follow nor agree with their particular agendas.

Now the question, these 17 and maybe one more that is critical will be the straw that breaks the camails back? And ether the political critters go along or get voted out of office ? ? ?

Being afraid of the nra, and such other groups that works on feer, mindless feer? (give an inch they will take a mile propaganda)

Interesting times.

Can see buyers getting closer looks at (deep?) before they get their toy.

[ziero0]

this mass shooting crap in this country , needs to stop, but it really never will.
Back in the dayz of the Gulf War with all those truck bombings going around I suggested that if you removed the trucks you would no longer have truck bombs. It follows. Let 'em use camels.

Do a root cause analysis on these public school shootings and you might come to the conclusion that only products of the public school system are doing most of the shooting. Eliminate public school and I guarantee they will no longer be
1) available to shoot up
2) turning out the product that does the shooting

[Joshua01]

Sir, the RCA would lead to one simple cause.....another false flag meant to distract common people's attention away from something else.
Back in the dayz of the Gulf War with all those truck bombings going around I suggested that if you removed the trucks you would no longer have truck bombs. It follows. Let 'em use camels.

Do a root cause analysis on these public school shootings and you might come to the conclusion that only products of the public school system are doing most of the shooting. Eliminate public school and I guarantee they will no longer be
1) available to shoot up
2) turning out the product that does the shooting

[ziero0]

false flag meant to distract common people's attention away from something else.

Something else would either be the Olympics or Valentines Day.

[Horn]

Looking at the latest.


This shooting and calls for political change and laws may have growing legs.

Mixed feelings myself, but this mass shooting crap in this country , needs to stop, but it really never will.

I bet if the dollar were still gold there'd be a lot less crazy persons on the street and everywhere else.

But No, you and your Mason cousin had to have things your way, complete with bailouts for bankers and institutionalized dreamer foundations.

[old steel]

9691

[PatColo]

This shooting and calls for political change and laws may have growing legs.

Mixed feelings myself, but this mass shooting crap in this country , needs to stop, but it really never will.


https://media.8ch.net/file_store/d5cab00252cd9caad0aeeb459a7d92cef9329f208d8b5b920f a5e26dfd0135dc.png

[Dogman]

Back in the dayz of the Gulf War with all those truck bombings going around I suggested that if you removed the trucks you would no longer have truck bombs. It follows. Let 'em use camels.

Do a root cause analysis on these public school shootings and you might come to the conclusion that only products of the public school system are doing most of the shooting. Eliminate public school and I guarantee they will no longer be
1) available to shoot up
2) turning out the product that does the shooting

9692

[Dogman]

I bet if the dollar were still gold there'd be a lot less crazy persons on the street and everywhere else.

But No, you and your Mason cousin had to have things your way, complete with bailouts for bankers and institutionalized dreamer foundations. Dam man smoke another banana skin... ;D


Think I remember you, from the old forum, (gim) family plot and you are managing it now, you had an interesting twist on life....

Kudo !

;D

Keep on trucking, and onward thru the fog , bro !!

[latemetal1]

If we don't give a shit about the Palestinians children, why would we worry about these kids?

[Horn]

If we don't give a shit about the Palestinians children, why would we worry about these kids?

If we dont, we risk the chance at being called barbaric relics.

Even though things were probably better when humans were Barbarians.

[StreetsOfGold]

Do they really WANT our guns or is it just an EXCUSE?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4ZLQthexGs

[old steel]

https://media.8ch.net/file_store/d5cab00252cd9caad0aeeb459a7d92cef9329f208d8b5b920f a5e26dfd0135dc.png



Bill Cooper had it figured and they shot him in the back for it.

RIP Bill.

[Dogman]

Total bullshit

He was a total foil head

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_William_Cooper

Tho, many here will eagerly soak it up.

[midnight rambler]

Only morons and shills base their reality on Wikipedia.

[Dogman]

Only morons and shills base their reality on Wikipedia. Konrad , only used to make a point but speaking to you is like trying to piss upwind in a hurricane.

I chose not to wast my time.

Be well

[PatColo]

http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Dogman http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?p=923777#post923777) Mixed feelings myself, but this mass shooting crap in this country , needs to stop, but it really never will.




https://media.8ch.net/file_store/d5cab00252cd9caad0aeeb459a7d92cef9329f208d8b5b920f a5e26dfd0135dc.png


Tho, many here will eagerly soak it up.


:rolleyes:

[Dogman]

Ether you are directly or indirectly making your living from others, (grab bag) you for sure are no wishing this country well, you want to destroy it. At least to inject doubt. I have just of for a grin , looked at ur history, hard but still it can be done, you have worked thru a few , avatar names.

Respect I have none for you. you you gay glasses guy you..

Who are your pay masters, how do you make a living? your posts are very detailed that takes time, so what is your income? And from who.?

Call me a drunk, but I am a very smart drunk, which I have been on the wagon, for a while.

what is your excuse.

comrade,

;D

[Cebu_4_2]

Fogman foggiing as he goes. It's all a blur to him, he wont remember it tomorrow without re-reading.

[Cebu_4_2]

Ether you are directly or indirectly making your living from others, (grab bag) you for sure are no wishing this country well, you want to destroy it. At least to inject doubt. I have just of for a grin , looked at ur history, hard but still it can be done, you have worked thru a few , avatar names.

Respect I have none for you. you you gay glasses guy you..

Who are your pay masters, how do you make a living? your posts are very detailed that takes time, so what is your income? And from who.?

Call me a drunk, but I am a very smart drunk, which I have been on the wagon, for a while.

what is your excuse.

comrade,

;D


Problem is your wagon has a broken fucking wheel...

[Dogman]

Expected the idiots to chime in, nice to know I was right

[latemetal1]

30 years ago, I would have said you were all nuts, now I'm certain you are all too conservative, unless you are a reptilian believer, then you are still nutz...

[PatColo]

fog man, still never heard back from you re the Qs below.

Maybe you're still waiting to hear back from your russian AI bot paymasters re what your answers should be? {0}


U believe the (((official Sandy Hook story))) too then dog? :(?? The "family pain", the "26 murdered".... ???

Boston Hoax-A-Thon?

Orlando Nightclub Homocaust?


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OOe22YTrf9s/maxresdefault.jpg

[Cebu_4_2]

fog man, still never heard back from you re the Qs below.

Maybe you're still waiting to hear back from your russian AI bot paymasters re what your answers should be? {0}


Fog time is anywhere from 12 to 120 hours, mattering how broken that wheel is, keep that idea open Pat.

[old steel]

BOMBSHELL: Senior at Douglas High School says she spoke to the suspect Nikolas Cruz at the school today while hearing gunshots from the other end of building. NEVER SEEN A GUN.

https://twitter.com/MAGAPILL/status/964002916708347904

[Dogman]

fog man, still never heard back from you re the Qs below.

Maybe you're still waiting to hear back from your russian AI bot paymasters re what your answers should be? {0}


Fog time is anywhere from 12 to 120 hours, mattering how broken that wheel is, keep that idea open Pat.

Lmfao,

One is a natural idiot and the other one is a payed shill/troll..

9693

Priceless !

9694

[Joshua01]

BOMBSHELL: Senior at Douglas High School says she spoke to the suspect Nikolas Cruz at the school today while hearing gunshots from the other end of building. NEVER SEEN A GUN.

https://twitter.com/MAGAPILL/status/964002916708347904

Arm the teachers and this problem magically goes away!

9695

[Dachsie]

"Arm the teachers and this problem magically goes away!"

Yes, that is definitely a long overdue good idea.

The public high schools have been a combat zone for decades even not with a false flag event happening there.

Problem is, we have been under the Saul Alinsky school plan for a very long time and the festering infection is really almost terminal at this point.

Getting very tired of watching the aftermath investigations, and way discussions in forums, play out on these school "shootings."

We still have no idea what actually happened at Florida shooting, and that is always the plan. Keep the people completely in the dark.

I am satisfied that this Florida event is a false event and has all the major earmarks of how we define a "false flag" school shootings. However, and although I have not delved deeply in studying this event, we do appear to have some good valid looking data, not necessarily true "evidence", that there was real gunfire and there were some real students and maybe faculty that were shot and that some were killed, that fatality number keeps changing - 17 to 14 - who knows, and that also some several people at the school were injured and hospitalized. I cannot see that we have good solid proofs or evidence regarding deaths and injuries, and that too is what is planned.

We have been heavily fed information and history of "shooter" Cruz. We are supposed to research him and see he is a real person and then that makes us, in error, assume he is the shooter.

I notice the MSM, even including Fox TV news, are on to "the blame for this Florida shooting lies completely with the FBI" meme. That again, ASSUMES ( Ass you and me) there was an actually shooting and actual, even if number unknown, injuries and deaths. That assumption is also part of the plan.

All of this the typical deceive-the-public, and play the alternative media followers who are searching for facts and truth, playout of the aftermath of an event.

[Joshua01]

If communities aren't willing to protect their children like they protect their politicians the blood is on THEIR hands!
"Arm the teachers and this problem magically goes away!"

Yes, that is definitely a long overdue good idea.

The public high schools have been a combat zone for decades even not with a false flag event happening there.

Problem is, we have been under the Saul Alinsky school plan for a very long time and the festering infection is really almost terminal at this point.

Getting very tired of watching the aftermath investigations, and way discussions in forums, play out on these school "shootings."

We still have no idea what actually happened at Florida shooting, and that is always the plan. Keep the people completely in the dark.

I am satisfied that this Florida event is a false event and has all the major earmarks of how we define a "false flag" school shootings. However, and although I have not delved deeply in studying this event, we do appear to have some good valid looking data, not necessarily true "evidence", that there was real gunfire and there were some real students and maybe faculty that were shot and that some were killed, that fatality number keeps changing - 17 to 14 - who knows, and that also some several people at the school were injured and hospitalized. I cannot see that we have good solid proofs or evidence regarding deaths and injuries, and that too is what is planned.

We have been heavily fed information and history of "shooter" Cruz. We are supposed to research him and see he is a real person and then that makes us, in error, assume he is the shooter.

I notice the MSM, even including Fox TV news, are on to "the blame for this Florida shooting lies completely with the FBI" meme. That again, ASSUMES ( Ass you and me) there was an actually shooting and actual, even if number unknown, injuries and deaths. That assumption is also part of the plan.

All of this the typical deceive-the-public, and play the alternative media followers who are searching for facts and truth, playout of the aftermath of an event.

[Dogman]

"Arm the teachers and this problem magically goes away!"

Yes, that is definitely a long overdue good idea.

The public high schools have been a combat zone for decades even not with a false flag event happening there.

Problem is, we have been under the Saul Alinsky school plan for a very long time and the festering infection is really almost terminal at this point.

Getting very tired of watching the aftermath investigations, and way discussions in forums, play out on these school "shootings."

We still have no idea what actually happened at Florida shooting, and that is always the plan. Keep the people completely in the dark.

I am satisfied that this Florida event is a false event and has all the major earmarks of how we define a "false flag" school shootings. However, and although I have not delved deeply in studying this event, we do appear to have some good valid looking data, not necessarily true "evidence", that there was real gunfire and there were some real students and maybe faculty that were shot and that some were killed, that fatality number keeps changing - 17 to 14 - who knows, and that also some several people at the school were injured and hospitalized. I cannot see that we have good solid proofs or evidence regarding deaths and injuries, and that too is what is planned.

We have been heavily fed information and history of "shooter" Cruz. We are supposed to research him and see he is a real person and then that makes us, in error, assume he is the shooter.

I notice the MSM, even including Fox TV news, are on to "the blame for this Florida shooting lies completely with the FBI" meme. That again, ASSUMES ( Ass you and me) there was an actually shooting and actual, even if number unknown, injuries event.

9696

Typical texan transplant response, that replaces sanity with idealism..

;D

I own 2 ar15's and one super, super match m1a, given to me by my cuz which was done by the navy/marine along with a m1 garand navy model (.308 not 30-06, compleat with the navy brand on the inside of the stock also done by navy/marine gunsmiths) Both the m1 and m1a were used by my dad and cuzz on their match shooting teams.

I am all for keeping firearms out of the hands of idiots/flaky types..

;D

I do not feer losing my guns.

[ziero0]

Scissors or a compass in the wrong hands can become lethal.

But if they are lethal they need to be regulated.

I venture a guess that many more lives are lost because of handguns and rifles in the hands of LEOs and it seems only the colored community is complaining about that.

The difference between an unregulated killer and a professional killer is the lack of license in the former.

[Dogman]

Scissors or a compass in the wrong hands can become lethal.

But if they are lethal they need to be regulated.

I venture a guess that many more lives are lost because of handguns and rifles in the hands of LEOs and it seems only the colored community is complaining about that.

The difference between an unregulated killer and a professional killer is the lack of license in the former.Agree!

Fully , in so many ways, but with as in all things in life , with a few exceptions...;D

[cheka.]

"Arm the teachers and this problem magically goes away!"

Yes, that is definitely a long overdue good idea.

The public high schools have been a combat zone for decades even not with a false flag event happening there.

Problem is, we have been under the Saul Alinsky school plan for a very long time and the festering infection is really almost terminal at this point.

Getting very tired of watching the aftermath investigations, and way discussions in forums, play out on these school "shootings."

We still have no idea what actually happened at Florida shooting, and that is always the plan. Keep the people completely in the dark.

I am satisfied that this Florida event is a false event and has all the major earmarks of how we define a "false flag" school shootings. However, and although I have not delved deeply in studying this event, we do appear to have some good valid looking data, not necessarily true "evidence", that there was real gunfire and there were some real students and maybe faculty that were shot and that some were killed, that fatality number keeps changing - 17 to 14 - who knows, and that also some several people at the school were injured and hospitalized. I cannot see that we have good solid proofs or evidence regarding deaths and injuries, and that too is what is planned.

We have been heavily fed information and history of "shooter" Cruz. We are supposed to research him and see he is a real person and then that makes us, in error, assume he is the shooter.

I notice the MSM, even including Fox TV news, are on to "the blame for this Florida shooting lies completely with the FBI" meme. That again, ASSUMES ( Ass you and me) there was an actually shooting and actual, even if number unknown, injuries and deaths. That assumption is also part of the plan.

All of this the typical deceive-the-public, and play the alternative media followers who are searching for facts and truth, playout of the aftermath of an event.

this one, like all of the rest, has connections to the den of vipers in nyc.dc

the shooter family moved to fla from nyc....and fbi.dc.nsa was well aware (at the very least) of his threats

how come the serial killer in arizona isn't getting any coverage -- guy killed 9 (at least) over a couple of weeks before getting caught

[StreetsOfGold]

The ONLY solution is to get rid of the 18 year mandatory JAIL sentence, called PUBLIC school
You learn NOTHING useful for life except perhaps how to read (some jails do not even accomplish this) and write but you can learn this AT HOME and once you can read, you do LEARN ANYTHING (IF you are NOT LAZY!!!!!!!)

Then after the 18 yr jail sentence, you are now expected to get a mini mortgage (college loan) and then spend another unspecified amount of time in a different prison (Debt prison) in which you might receive a piece of paper which might get you a job you could have had and done without the jail sentence.

All this requires MANDATORY financial support by EVERYONE, since you MUST live somewhere and property taxes are TIED TO this funding (primarily) and thus you are FORCED to PAY FOR THIS MANDATORY JAIL TIME for YOUR children.

It is THAT important to your slavemasters, MORE than anything else which is WHY your property taxes are MOSTLY for the JAIL system!!

[monty]

Why all the discussion about informing the FBI and their failure to act, but not one word about the whether or not the local sheriff or police department were informed and failed to act? The local law enforcement has jurisdiction. The FBI can be called in by the locals to assist in investigating if desired.

Placing an armed guard at each entrance/exit and having them inspect purses, backpacks etc. would greatly reduce the ability for anyone to enter with a gun.

But the root of the problem is broken homes, transgenderism, homosexuality, violence in the movies, televsion and video games and total destruction of the family unit all pushed on society by the jews through their controlled media, Hollywood, and even the jew’s influence in the churches.

[Dogman]

Why all the discussion about informing the FBI and their failure to act, but not one word about the whether or not the local sheriff or police department were informed and failed to act? The local law enforcement has jurisdiction. The FBI can be called in by the locals to assist in investigating if desired.

Placing an armed guard at each entrance/exit and having them inspect purses, backpacks etc. would greatly reduce the ability for anyone to enter with a gun.

But the root of the problem is broken homes, transgenderism, homosexuality, violence in the movies, televsion and video games and total destruction of the family unit all pushed on society by the jews through their controlled media, Hollywood, and even the jew’s influence in the churches. Totally agree with most of what you say bro.

But there is one here that sorta reminds me of this.

9697

At least in spirit, totally insane.

9698

Dam bible thumpers !

All conviction and no mind, between the ears and behind the eyes !

;D

[Joshua01]

9699

This is the single, most compelling reason why our young children are dying in their classrooms! Blame and punish the cause, not the effect!

[Dachsie]

Biden could be shut up permanently by somebody just exposing his "alleged" pedophilia practices.

I think the whole anti-gun meme going on again right now is a distraction.
Little of no chance as long as Trump is president that new gun legislation will go anywhere.
More and more chance THEY do not want us focused on investigations of foundations and pedophilia and human trafficking and crimes from top to bottom at CIA, FBI and DOJ.
So roll out the old No-Guns issue for the sheeple to focus on.
People who are even semi-awakened to the Saul Alinksky Marxist takeover of the USA know
we should never never ever give up our guns.

Starting at about 24:00 on this audio track,....
Dave at X 22 report does a good rundown on Florida and the many questions we have about that event...

https://x22report.com/

Warning, Huge Amount Of Chatter, Something Possible, Imminent:Q – Episode 1501
On: February 18, 2018

Dave misuses the term "a second shooter" and misapplies the different kinds of False Flag events but those are fairly minor errors.

[Joshua01]

9700

[JDRock]

Arming teachers? How about re instituting prayer in schools, post the10 commandments. And SEPERATE children by race and place them in different schools as you pull weeds out of a garden and put them in a different pile. And the most important- remove talmudic jewish influence from the children at every level.especially the federal level.

[boogietillyapuke]

9701They’ve still got cowboys in Oklahoma.

[Dogman]

<img src="http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9701"/>They’ve still got cowboys in Oklahoma.

Texas also !

[ziero0]

Texas also !

All hat. No cows.

[Dogman]

All hat. No cows. LMFAO!

Now that was funny!

Bunch of beef/hamburger on the hoof here! Tho population growth is slimming pasture land now, compaired to back when!

;D

Edit:

Side note, I need to check but still have ? near 10 pair of boots, but all need retreading, the uppers are still good to go, name the brand I probably have one, and a few custom.

Hats, Been years, think my last one went when I kicked my only wife of 3 years out. prefer ball caps as my pict shows.

Tho with my hair growing out, (near 16" now )

I am thinking of doing the cowboy felt/straw hat again, (depending on weather) just for gins and styling.... And keeping things real in my part of my state !

;D

[Neuro]

LMFAO!

Now that was funny!

Bunch of beef/hamburger on the hoof here! Tho population growth is slimming pasture land now, compaired to back when!

;D

Edit:

Side note, I need to check but still have ? near 10 pair of boots, but all need retreading, the uppers are still good to go, name the brand I probably have one, and a few custom.

Hats, Been years, think my last one went when I kicked my only wife of 3 years out. prefer ball caps as my pict shows.

Tho with my hair growing out, (near 16" now )

I am thinking of doing the cowboy felt/straw hat again, (depending on weather) just for gins and styling.... And keeping things real in my part of my state !

;D

Yeah this is the proper thread to discuss your style in Fogman! ;D

[Dachsie]

Checka" "how come the serial killer in arizona isn't getting any coverage -- guy killed 9 (at least) over a couple of weeks before getting caught "

Because Cruz is the groomed and chosen patsy, who may have or may not have done some shooting.

Sometime, please tell us about the Arizona person, apparently ignored in alternative media sites on the web too.

[Dachsie]

Why all the discussion about informing the FBI and their failure to act, but not one word about the whether or not the local sheriff or police department were informed and failed to act? The local law enforcement has jurisdiction. The FBI can be called in by the locals to assist in investigating if desired.

The local law enforcement jurisdiction goes out the window on operations of the Deep State. The FBI comes in and totally takes over the "investigation." Has happened that way in all of the major "false flags" in US in last 15 years or so.

Here's a little information on Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel and possibly explains his failure to perform as sheriff.

https://bigleaguepolitics.com/loomer-broward-county-sherriff-pals-around-hillary-clinton/

Investigative journalist Laura Loomer revealed Saturday that the sheriff in Broward County, Florida pals around with prominent Democrats including Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, and Bernie Sanders, and Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

[cheka.]

All hat. No cows.

you yankees are not too bright on non-metrosexual issues.....it's no CATTLE

[cheka.]

shooting stories dated 2 days early


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=h1yos5gbRGE

[Dachsie]

Wow, what a find!

Reminds me of Jane Stanley annoncing on BBC TV the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 on 9-11-01 twenty-five minutes before the building went down and with the standing building in her background while she was making her live premature new cast. No one ever heard from Ms. Standley ever again.

We are learning how sometimes THEY get the timeline and the script mixed up.

Oh well, mistakes were made.

[Joshua01]

Anyone can make a mistake! Since we hold no one in politics, the media or law enforcement accountable for anything any longer these things just fade into history.
Wow, what a find!

Reminds me of Jane Stanley annoncing on BBC TV the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 on 9-11-01 twenty-five minutes before the building went down and with the standing building in her background while she was making her live premature new cast. No one ever heard from Ms. Standley ever again.

We are learning how sometimes THEY get the timeline and the script mixed up.

Oh well, mistakes were made.

[Ares]

How about that massive stabbing attack in China a couple of years ago? 2 Women killed 33 people and wounded 143 with just knives.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2570996/At-27-dead-109-injured-gang-knife-wielding-men-attack-train-station-China.html

Lets ban guns, that will stop it. We need sensible gun control.... /sarcasm lol

[ziero0]

it's no CATTLE

Pssst .... the HAT is cattle

cattle (n.)

mid-13c., "property" of any kind, including money, land, income; from Anglo-French catel "property" (Old North French catel, Old French chatel), from Medieval Latin capitale "property, stock," noun use of neuter of Latin adjective capitalis "principal, chief," literally "of the head," from caput (genitive capitis) "head" (from PIE root *kaput- "head"). Compare sense development of fee, pecuniary.

in later Middle English especially "movable property, livestock" (early 14c.), including horses, sheep, asses, etc.; it began to be limited to "cows and bulls" from late 16c.

You southerners might think of a HAT as chattel


chattel (n.)

early 13c., chatel "property, goods," from Old French chatel "chattels, goods, wealth, possessions, property; profit; cattle," from Late Latin capitale "property" (see cattle, which is the Old North French form of the same word). Application to slaves is from 1640s and later became a rhetorical figure in the writings of abolitionists.

[midnight rambler]

How about that massive stabbing attack in China a couple of years ago? 2 Women killed 33 people and wounded 143 with just knives.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2570996/At-27-dead-109-injured-gang-knife-wielding-men-attack-train-station-China.html

Lets ban guns, that will stop it. We need sensible gun control.... /sarcasm lol

The War on Poverty and the War on Drugs have gone so well the War on Guns should go even more smoothly.

[Joshua01]

The War on Poverty and the War on Drugs have gone so well the War on Guns should go even more smoothly.
9702

[Ares]

The War on Poverty and the War on Drugs have gone so well the War on Guns should go even more smoothly.

I've been reading tweets from both sides and pretty much the gun owners have said they would shoot anyone trying to confiscate their weapons. Any laws the government passes will not be followed. There are 300 million plus guns in this country. I don't think the cultural marxists understand the shear stupidity involved in trying to confiscate that many weapons.

[Joshua01]

The American gun owners are the largest weaponized standing army in the world.
I've been reading tweets from both sides and pretty much the gun owners have said they would shoot anyone trying to confiscate their weapons. Any laws the government passes will not be followed. There are 300 million plus guns in this country. I don't think the cultural marxists understand the shear stupidity involved in trying to confiscate that many weapons.

[Tumbleweed]

Looks like Cruz was adopted but his biological mother was a Jew.

https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=41b_1518886886


from the comments
https://cdn.liveleak.com/80281E/ll_a_s/2018/Feb/17/LiveLeak-dot-com-953_1518889981-24rfe2_1518889990.jpg.resized.jpg?8VRDhlOGJh_TJ0Wj GdVMI5qPid1XWPJgbAcxELYyFyksn56YR9MQhuNwku2-InVl&ec_rate=499

[cheka.]

Looks like Cruz was adopted but his biological mother was a Jew.

https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=41b_1518886886


from the comments
https://cdn.liveleak.com/80281E/ll_a_s/2018/Feb/17/LiveLeak-dot-com-953_1518889981-24rfe2_1518889990.jpg.resized.jpg?8VRDhlOGJh_TJ0Wj GdVMI5qPid1XWPJgbAcxELYyFyksn56YR9MQhuNwku2-InVl&ec_rate=499

it is everywhere in this event. bio mom, likely adopted mom too, and the caretaker after adopted mom died, skool namesake, skool students, 'victims' of shots, etc

[ziero0]

Frankly someone needs to be held accountable for this abominable event. I think as long as the FBI is focused on the Russians they might as well indict a couple dozen of them for instigating this kid to the performance of his unlawful actions. They already have the form of the indictment down pat so with very little effort could modify this document.

[cheka.]

BOOM

now have nyc AND dc connections to the event. HE WAS LIVING WITH A DC SPOOK!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5405881/Couple-took-school-shooter-didnt-dark-side.html

The perturbed pair who took in Florida school shooter Nikolas Cruz back in November have opened up about living with the teen and say they didn't see the danger he posed.

Kimberly, 49, a neonatal intensive care nurse, and James Snead, 48, a military intelligence analyst, agreed to allow the 19-year-old live in their Parkland home after their son, a friend to Cruz, inquired.

[midnight rambler]

http://rense.com/general96/FLschoolexplodes.html

[Dachsie]

http://rense.com/general96/FLschoolexplodes.html

thanks for very important article.

Yoichi Shimatsu has written many great articles, all posted at Rense.com

Only thing Shimatsu got very wrong, and did so three times, was to say that there were two experienced professional shooters who killed the children at Sandy Hook School Shooting.

Nobody Died at Sandy Hook.

[Dachsie]

Strong indication of many lousy crisis actors...

Found 4 or 5 links to very short video clips of Florida shooting related students and teachers referring to their school as

STILLman Douglas

It is Stoneman Douglas

at this address / site
http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/news/#.WouVbedG3IU





https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLD841087C099E5B90&time_continue=101&v=3_nSu07ct_I

Florida teacher and gun owner: "No point to somebody having an AR-15"
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Cameron Kasky – “Stoneman Douglas student” who calls “his school” Stillman Douglas says: “I’ve never seen this ruse… I’ve never seen this in any school shooting” – 1 minute video
“Student”/Crisis Actor/Agent Of Florida Fake “Shooting” Still Hasn’t Figured Out “His School” Is Stoneman Douglas, Not Stillman Douglas – 43 second video

“Stoneman Douglas student” who has called “his school” Stillman Douglas mentions his dad is a police officer and says “we want to make America work for their weapons”- 1 minute video

Very old looking “teenager” at “Stoneman-Douglas” calls “her school” Stillman-Douglas – 19 second video

[cheka.]

a (fake?) student by the name of david hogg has internet researchers in an uproar -- may be the false flag fake actor smoking gun. just a few items (of many) posted below. no time right now to post more...

https://twitter.com/Thomas1774Paine/status/966008016486195201

BREAKING -- BUSTED: Trump-Hating School Shooting Survivor Visited CNN HQ Before the Shooting; Ranted Live on CNN After

https://truepundit.com/busted-trump-hating-school-shooting-survivor-visited-cnn-hq-shooting-ranted-live-cnn/

Things keep getting stranger with young David Hogg.

First, we learn the mainstream media’s school shooting darling is the son of an FBI agent (retired). Then he goes on television ranting against President Trump when the deadly Florida school shooting last week — it turns out — was more the fault of the FBI than anyone even close to the White House.

Hogg ranted live on CNN and CBS and all other networks as his anti-Trump and anti-GOP gun control comments went viral in the mainstream media vacuum.

Liberal Nation applauded.

But now we learn Hogg was hanging out at CNN headquarters in Atlanta, GA sometime Before the school shooting. Before the shooting. Posing behind an news anchor desk? Perhaps Hogg’s career dream is to sign on with the network — a young Jake Tapper — as he has portrayed himself since the deadly shooting that claimed 17 students as a “student journalist and entrepreneur.”

The kid who has been running his mouth about how Donald Trump and the GOP are teaming to help murder high school kids by upholding the Second Amendment is the son of an FBI agent.

David Hogg is a school shooting survivor in Florida. At least that is what the mainstream media has told us. We wouldn’t be surprised by anything involving the FBI at this point.

From Deep State CBS News:

“David Hogg was in school when the Parkland, Florida, shooting started. His father is a retired FBI agent, so he recognized immediately that this was a gun. Here’s what he did:”

And while the media allowed Hogg to adorn us with his worldly teen views on the Constitution, they conveniently left out the part where the FBI was warned that the Florida school shooter had promised to shoot up a school — at least twice — long before the massacre that killed 17 students last week.

If Hogg knew the shooter would snap — as he and other students have professed — perhaps he could have told his father about it.

Oh but wait, his father was in the FBI.

It would not have mattered anyway.

That’s the funny thing about the limelight, kid.

Often the lights can come crashing down on your head.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article200277689.html

[Uncle Salty]

This seems more like the military op at the Denver movie theater than Sandy Hook.

Sandy Hook was fake. People died here but methinks Cruz was the patsy.

He's a drugged up MK Ultra beta patsy slave. Orphans make good patsies.

[Ares]

David Hogg is a fucking fraud. He didn't even go to that fucking high school and graduated in 2015.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9707&d=1519181446

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9708&d=1519181456

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9709&d=1519181467


FALSE FUCKING FLAG!!!

[Dogman]

Love the reality deniers vs what they want reality to be vs the real.
Very sure this shit happened as reported..

Feel this one may be the straw that bury's the camel, normal people are tired of this carp.

No one here is 'normal' as shit goes, this developing movement has teeth in years to come more than likely.

Things will tighten up, the "public" (which the political critters , depend to reelect them will heed or be out of a job"

I think this movement has legs.. (maybe kids now, but voters by 2020)
remember the 1960's and political change that still resonates to this day?

Feel this will go national, and the political critters that love their easy jobs will make the changes to keep their jobs, new faces need to replace the old , in some cases very old critters.

[Ares]

Love the reality deniers vs what they want reality to be.

Very sure this shit happened as reported..

Feel this one may be the straw that bury' the camel, normal people are tired of this carp.

No one here is 'normal' as shit goes, this developing movement has teeth in years to come more than likely.

Things will tighten up, the "public" (which the political critters , depend to reelect them will heed or be out of a job"

This movement has legs.. (maybe kids now, but voters by 2020)

Renumber the 1960's and political change that resonated to this day?

Tell me Dogman, why the hell is a kid who didn't even go to that high school saying he was there and is a survivor?

Get the fuck out of here with your "reality" denier bullshit. Tell me why this kid graduated high school in 2015, yet the MSM touts this little faggot around with him saying he was there when REAL EVIDENCE says he wasn't?

[Dogman]

Tell me Dogman, why the hell is a kid who didn't even go to that high school saying he was there and is a survivor? Dude, not sure for sure, if this hypophysis brought up on this thread , but very sure this shit happened.

Dead is dead..

Tho inventive minds want to spin out story's without even a hent of real truth, nor reality.

Know sum people that live in that area..

May you just hope this kind of crap does not happen to they you love.

[Ares]

Dude, not sure for sure, if this hypophysis brought up on this thread , but very sure this shit happened.

Dead is dead..

Tho inventive minds want to spin out story's without even a hent of real truth, nor reality.

Know sum people that live in that area..

May you just hope this kind of crap does not happen to they you love.

Nice cop out. Here is some more evidence this kid is a fucking fraud.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9710&d=1519183279

So Dogman, why would a suppose "witness" and "school shooting survivor" need an ear piece?

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9711&d=1519183292

This faggot is being told what to say.

Notice the article date, December 1st 2017? Why would he be a Senior in 2017 when multiple sources show him actually graduating in 2015? Not to mention the "shooting" (yeah right) took place only 2 months later. So he moves across country in the middle of his senior year in high school with literally 5 months left before graduation? Yeah I don't think so.

IF this shooting actually happened and that's a BIG FUCKING IF at this point. Then he's only out clamoring for gun control to help distract from the fact that it was the FBI who failed to prevent it.

[Dogman]

Nice cop out. Here is some more evidence this kid is a fucking fraud.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9710&d=1519183279

So Dogman, why would a suppose "witness" and "school shooting survivor" need an ear piece?

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9711&d=1519183292

This faggot is being told what to say.Sorry dude, I reject your propaganda!

Real is real, people died!

I still love you as a cuz and the other miscreants that live here.(forum) (with a few exceptions ;D) !

9712

[Ares]

Sorry dude, I reject your propaganda!

Real is real, people died!

I still love you as a cuz and the other miscreants that live here.(forum) (with a few exceptions ;D) !

9712

Uh huh, prove it. I have evidence of the main "survivor" being touted by the MSM is a fucking fraud.

[Dogman]

9713

You need to prove yours first, and not from sum wack job forum or source.


Have fun, I go by real people, and the human grapevine.


Have a great life, may it be all you want it to be.

;D

Nite

[Ares]

9713

You need to prove yours first, and not from sum wack job forum or source.


Have fun, I go by real people, and the human grapevine.


Have a great life, may it be all you want it to be.

;D

Nite

http://eagleeye.news/feature/msd-senior-david-hogg-goes-viral-youtube/

Not good enough, Here is the link form the high school this faggot actually went too.. Shut the fuck up and prove this actually happened.

Human grapevine eh? I didn't know that's what they were calling Jack Daniels now.


The Mainstream news would never lie to us right dogman?? LOL

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9714&d=1519185433

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9715&d=1519185445

[cheka.]

http://investmentwatchblog.com/exposed-absolute-scriptagenda-collection-of-david-hogg-florida-school-shooting-interviews/

Exposed: absolute script/agenda (Collection of David Hogg Florida School Shooting Interviews)

edit: wow, they gas chambered both videos at link

[Ares]

http://investmentwatchblog.com/exposed-absolute-scriptagenda-collection-of-david-hogg-florida-school-shooting-interviews/

Exposed: absolute script/agenda (Collection of David Hogg Florida School Shooting Interviews)

edit: wow, they gas chambered both videos at link

Oy Vay!!! Shut it down

[cheka.]

heavy.com attempts to debunk the furor re hogg

https://heavy.com/news/2018/02/david-hogg-florida-school-shooting-california-video/

one in the comment section took heavy to task:

John Doe February 20th, 2018

You are horrible at researching before posting stuff. Please look at the time stamp on his Instagram post in which you are claiming to be from his vacation in August 2017. Good lord you are pathetic journalists.

[cheka.]

can't really see...but a starting point. did hogg get the control room ear piece for his performance?

http://www.northcrane.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/1519083261971.png

http://www.northcrane.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/1519083326602.png

[cheka.]

nyc.media reveals hogg's sister had two best friends killed

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/15/us/david-hogg-florida-shooting.html

While they were hiding, Mr. Hogg proceeded to interview his classmates on camera about their beliefs on gun policy.

Mr. Hogg’s younger sister, 14, was also in the building. Two of her best friends were among the 17 people who died, he said.

[Ares]

nyc.media reveals hogg's sister had two best friends killed

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/15/us/david-hogg-florida-shooting.html

While they were hiding, Mr. Hogg proceeded to interview his classmates on camera about their beliefs on gun policy.

Mr. Hogg’s younger sister, 14, was also in the building. Two of her best friends were among the 17 people who died, he said.

LOL So let me get this straight. There is an "Active Shooter" situation happening and this asshole interviews people about their views on gun control DURING THE SHOOTING? Really??? People like Dogman buy this bullshit?

[Dogman]

http://eagleeye.news/feature/msd-senior-david-hogg-goes-viral-youtube/

Not good enough, Here is the link form the high school this faggot actually went too.. Shut the fuck up and prove this actually happened.

Human grapevine eh? I didn't know that's what they were calling Jack Daniels now.

The Mainstream news would never lie to us right dogman?? LOL

dude keep. Your illusans, no real proofs!

Let's agree to disagree!

Leave it at that!

I stand by my thaughts and
posts!

:D

Agan good night, long day!

[cheka.]

hogg contradicts official story -- says shooting started before fire alarm. also was running for his life......but thought it was a drill

http://abc13.com/janitor-risks-his-life-to-save-students-from-gunmans-wrath-/3086332/

Senior David Hogg told Eyewitness News he thought he heard a gunshot during his afternoon class, but that was immediately followed by a fire alarm.

"After I started running with the people, I realized that wasn't the best choice because there was a janitor that thank God stopped me and all of my fellow students from going in that direction, towards the shooter," Hogg said.

Hogg and his classmates turned around, but needed a place to hide. That is when a teacher ran to open her classroom door.

"Without her, who knows how many of us would have died, 'cause we were easily 100 feet away from the freshman building, and again, we thought this was a drill," Hogg said.

[cheka.]

https://i1.wp.com/truepundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/12033146_10207855509059985_9193439422190761732_n-copy.jpg

https://i0.wp.com/truepundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/1936516_10207856685249389_3665057698166080985_n.jp g

[cheka.]

think this is one of the videos tube is hiding. hogg struggles mightily to recite his lines

https://153news.net/watch_video.php?v=A58MWA6G91WM

David Hogg Can’t Remember His Lines When Interviewed

[Ares]

dude keep. Your illusans, no real proofs!

Let's agree to disagree!

Leave it at that!

I stand by my thaughts and
posts!

:D

Agan good night, long day!

No real proof? LMAO are you drunk? That's from his fucking high school in California
How much proof do you need?

[cheka.]

interesting starting point for one of the alleged victims

https://153news.net/watch_video.php?v=NOKXMRAAMUU9

Mirror- Scott Beigel Teacher Hero ALIVE and WELL in New York

[Dogman]

http://eagleeye.news/feature/msd-senior-david-hogg-goes-viral-youtube/

Not good enough, Here is the link form the high school this faggot actually went too.. Shut the fuck up and prove this actually happened.

Human grapevine eh? I didn't know that's what they were calling Jack Daniels now.


The Mainstream news would never lie to us right dogman?? LOL

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9714&d=1519185433

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9715&d=1519185445That is your proof, you are a grin, shit I had more respect for you on critical thinking and researching! But also I do admit, sum here like to work their altar egos and make dream lands, mainly personal reality totally sucks. (for many)

Be well!

Lights out , (been working that way) for me, very soon. Got a new asus laptop , hitting the door tomorrow, and setting it up will take at least a week, good boxes. the one I am using still has ton's of life. but getting ahead of the curve from total distater. ;D

Never had 2 boxes fully working.. this one is 6 years old, for a laptop think dog years.

Night and out of this thread

;D

Remember I do have people , living in that area so I know it is real.
sum one needs to keep some shit very real..

;D

[Dogman]

No real proof? LMAO are you drunk? That's from his fucking high school in California
How much proof do you need? last post on this one.

No to the drunk, common attack directed at & or too me.!
Your proof is shit. mostly invented , similarity yes, exact no.

But gasp....!

Your reality is not mine, I tend to look at the real and not what I want to see.


Be well.

[cheka.]

must take with HUGE grain of salt....skype wrote article making all kinds of anti-sem claims (imagine that)

no wonder the shooter was expelled -- this article alleges it harmed a jew.

sounds like the perfect place to run a false flag - skype everywhere, fbi agent son ready to go on tv....dc spook housing the shooter....etc

https://medium.com/@natalielifson/the-florida-douglas-high-school-shooting-was-an-anti-semitic-hate-crime-e1977d46bcef

Was an Anti-Semitic Hate Crime And Nobody’s Talking About It

Yesterday, February 14th 2018, 19-year-old Nikolas Cruz took an Uber to Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, the institution he had been expelled from a year earlier, and, according to the police report released this morning, “began shooting students that he saw in the hallways and on school grounds.” 17 are confirmed dead and 14 injured. The Florida shooting seems to be all anyone is talking about. What people fail to mention, however, is that Douglas High School is more than 40% Jewish, Cruz believed that Jews were part of a conspiracy to unseat white people from power, and the shooting was potentially an anti-Semitic hate crime.

Personal accounts of students who attended high school with Cruz have pegged him as an anti-Semite. According to an individual who knew him*, he was actively hostile towards Jews, black people, and Muslims in particular throughout high school. In fact, multiple of the violent incidents he was expelled for were attacks against Jews.

*Since this article went viral, an individual has reached out to me with a personal account but wishes to remain anonymous to avoid backlash.

Not only did Nikolas Cruz actively and openly hate Jews, not only does he have a history of making threats and committing acts of violence against Jewish students, but he was part of a white supremacist organization called Republic of Florida Militia that self-identifies as a “white civil rights organization” that fights for the “ultimate creation of a white ethnostate.” Nikolas was a member of the ROF and participated in one or more of their “training drills” to prepare for the possibility of an attack by people of color and Jews against white people.

“We’re not a big fan of Jews,” Republic of Florida Militia leader Jordan Jerub stated in an interview with The Daily Beast. “I think there were a lot of Jews at the school that might have been messing with him.”

Jerub’s statement is very telling. Even if Cruz was not entirely motivated by anti-Semitism (there are certainly other factors as well, including but not limited to his expulsion from Douglas), his hatred of the Jews who attended his school undoubtedly played a major role in his motivations. While there is room to question Cruz’s exact motivations, I find it troubling that such a visible connection to anti-Semitism is being overlooked as irrelevant enough to entirely exclude it from many major news articles; if a white supremacist blatantly and frequently spoke about abhorrence for any other minority and then shot up a school- even one he used to attend- that consisted mostly of members of that ethnic group, people (people who care about social justice, that is) would at least be discussing the possibility that it was a hate crime. People are not having a discussion and not taking Cruz’s anti-Semitism seriously because common anti-Semitic tropes paint Jews as powerful and privileged, which leaves room for people to ignore the fact that our long history of oppression continues to this day.

While it makes sense that struggles of black communities, Muslim communities, and other frequently targeted groups, who have suffered at the hands of racism more than any other ethnic group in America, would be at the forefront of the social justice movement, it is important to not entirely ignore Jewish struggles, as is the alarming trend. It is vital for people on the left to understand that the fight against anti-Semitism is not at war with the fights against other forms of race-based oppression; we do not want to minimize the devastating effects of racism in America, but we do want to elevate anti-Semitism and start a discussion about the fight against anti-Semitism as a part of a much larger struggle to dismantle white supremacy.

Very few non-Jewish news sources have reported on the anti-Semitic connections to Cruz’s hate crimes at all, but news sources that have are inundated with anti-Semitic comments in Facebook groups. People are saying that “Jews want to be oppressed so badly.” People are saying we’re “appropriating struggles of people of color” simply by claiming that he killed Jewish kids because he’s a white supremacist. I’m sorry, why can’t we acknowledge that someone shot up a Jewish school because he was anti-Semitic without it taking away from the struggles of other minorities? Yes, white Jews are white and have systemic power over black people and many other racial groups (Jewish and non-Jewish POC alike). No, that does not mean we hold power because we are Jewish, nor does it mean we should be excluded from the conversation about the white supremacy that affects us due to our Judaism.

When Jews say we are oppressed, people often respond with “show me real hate crimes against Jews and then we’ll believe you when you say you’re discriminated against,” but then someone who talks about wanting Jews dead shoots up a school that’s largely Jewish and many people still refuse to acknowledge that it’s a real hate crime.

Regardless of Cruz’s motivations, the shooting has shaken the local Jewish community, which mourns the loss of 6 members. According to local Rabbi Shuey Biston, Parkland “is a small community where nearly half the population is Jewish, so everyone has been touched by what happened.” While town records state that only 1.6% of Parkland is Jewish, members of the Parkland Jewish community were quick to point out that the listed demographics only take into account religious Jews. According to Jews who live in Parkland, the majority of the Jewish population is secular, or ethnically and culturally Jewish but not religiously; in the census, these Jews were taken into account as atheist. Quite frankly, it is insulting, painful even, to watch people look for excuses to dismiss us completely while we mourn the losses of members of the Jewish community at the hands of someone who hated the victims for being Jewish.

The Jewish community is not a large one. I know people who knew some of those kids, who went to Jewish summer camp with them, whose parents were family friends. Fuck anti-Semites, fuck people who shoot children, and fuck people who refuse to acknowledge that people are targeted, assaulted, and even killed for being Jewish on a regular basis. According to the FBI, 1.7% of Americans are Jewish, but last year 54.2% of religiously motivated hate crimes were against Jews and 11.5% of overall hate crimes were against Jews.

If your intersectionality doesn’t include Jews, you’re doing social justice wrong.

UPDATE:

Jerub, who previously claimed Cruz as a member of ROF, has backtracked and stated that his claims that he trained Cruz with ROF were a “misunderstanding” propelled by the “lying Jew media.” While many are taking his retraction at face value, I would like to point out that it is only common sense- and advice any lawyer would give- to deny training a school shooter in the art of gun violence with the explicit purpose of targeting people of color and Jews in the event that they rise up against white people. ABC News claims to have three sources who were classmates with Cruz and confirm his involvement with ROF, but ABC has not yet commented on how they verified their sources.

We do not know for certain whether or not Jerub’s original statement is true, but anyone would have retracted that statement regardless of truthfulness in an attempt to protect themselves from both the law and media backlash. The evidence behind this article may be marginally flimsier with rising developments, but the point still stands; there is enough evidence to warrant a discussion about the possibility of the Douglas High School shooting being an anti-Semitic hate crime, but this discussion is just not happening because people do not take anti-Semitism seriously.

In fact, to further contribute to my point, the vast majority of articles on Jerub’s retraction do not mention his accusation of the “lying Jew media” at all. Those that do not omit this statement only do so because they have provided a screenshot and do not discuss the blatant anti-Semitism they have so callously brushed past.

This is not an isolated incident either. At the Nazi-led Charlottesville march in August 2017, Nazis- a group that initially formed with the explicit purpose of targeting Jews- chanted “Jews will not replace us!” over and over again throughout the march as one of their primary mantras. Yet, the only articles that mentioned the chant in anything but passing- and even articles that mentioned it in passing were few and far between- were Jewish.

EVEN IF Jerub’s statements were completely and utterly discredited, the larger point of the article still stands. When there was overwhelming evidence pointing to Cruz as a member of a white nationalist organization (and to be clear- members of the Parkland community are still adamant that he openly despised Jews), nobody discussed the possibility of an anti-Semitic hate crime or even an anti-Semitic connection to the shooting. This article is about more than just this one incident. It is about the fact that nobody seems to fight for the Jews except the Jews themselves. It is about the larger context of a society full of enablers, people who ignore anti-Semitism and think that is okay even if they are not participating in it.

It is time we start including Jews in the social justice movement in the discussion about white supremacy. We do not want to kick anyone else out of a seat, we just want a seat at the table to discuss issues that heavily relate to us.

[cheka.]

from the comment section of above......he shot up two holycost classrooms/shrines

pplause from Natalie Lifson (author)
Go to the profile of Aliza Worthington
Aliza Worthington
Feb 16

Thanks for writing this. And two of the classrooms into which he shot were where the teachers taught about the history of the Holocaust, and whether or not hate can ever be eradicated. Solidarity and strength for my fellow Jews.

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and look -- aliza is a nyc jewish advocate/blogger that has won many circle-jerk blogging awards

https://theworthingtonpost.net/

[Cebu_4_2]

That is your proof, you are a grin, shit I had more respect for you on critical thinking and researching! But also I do admit, sum here like to work their altar egos and make dream lands, mainly personal reality totally sucks. (for many)

Be well!

Lights out , (been working that way) for me, very soon. Got a new asus laptop , hitting the door tomorrow, and setting it up will take at least a week, good boxes. the one I am using still has ton's of life. but getting ahead of the curve from total distater. ;D

Never had 2 boxes fully working.. this one is 6 years old, for a laptop think dog years.

Night and out of this thread

;D

Remember I do have people , living in that area so I know it is real.
sum one needs to keep some shit very real..

;D

http://webapp1.dlib.indiana.edu/collections/cushman/full/P04410.jpg

[Dogman]

http://webapp1.dlib.indiana.edu/collections/cushman/full/P04410.jpgConsidering the source, and member, here!


Thank you

If only that old wagon could talk! (What story's it could tell? )

Punk!

Lmfao!

Just could not resist my favorite member here..

I wish I could crash for more than an hour or so..but such is life while we are blessed with it, for sum sleep is a fond memory, and naps become reality.

Hint:

You pay for the abuse you put your body tru life. One sign of end time and time is getting sort in life is when u wake up and you hurt, with dreams of tossing and turning. I suspect that if you wake up and do not hurt sum where you are dead and gone..Lmfao.. (you have more yesterdays than tomorrows) Then there are medical thingy's, that shorten even that..

Peace.

Cebu_4_2 hehe, u are still a punk, glad you are not my neighbor of live in my state...so you will not steal my internet bandwidth...



9716

Tho I keep an wireless net gear home network , thingy known as guest with full access 2.5 and 5 gig no password needed for full access to the net.

So far no abuse.. (5 years)

u still a punk, please send me another Private message wishing for my bloody death, (like you sent me this or ? last week..)

Entertaining.

;D

I like that picture, am getting old and defiantly broken down as far as my body goes.

Such is the circle of life.....

Punk, but still entertaining when it comes to your posts to me , dude.. Have a great life....hoot


Just leave off the death threats..

;D

[Ares]

last post on this one.

No to the drunk, common attack directed at & or too me.!
Your proof is shit. mostly invented , similarity yes, exact no.

But gasp....!

Your reality is not mine, I tend to look at the real and not what I want to see.


Be well.

It was a question, not an attack. The evidence is in black and white yet you refuse to see it. Talk about someone content on living in their own illusion. That link was only from his highschool in California. Yeah that's totally normal to have a kid going to school at one high school clear across the country. :rolleyes:

Your classmates just got slaughtered less than a week ago, and you survived. Smile for the camera!!!

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9717&d=1519218033

[Dogman]

It was a question, not an attack. The evidence is in black and white yet you refuse to see it. Talk about someone content on living in their own illusion. That link was only from his highschool in California. Yeah that's totally normal to have a kid going to school at one high school clear across the country. :rolleyes:

Your classmates just got slaughtered less than a week ago, and you survived. Smile for the camera!!!

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9717&d=1519218033Black and white, I feel sad for they that are into their own reality and mentally reject the real. Mostly to enforce their own false reality. Dude I did and still thought you were a cut above the herd. Tho I still hold hope...;D

It happened, blood was shed, family's were devastated, and young ones are into dirt sleep, and lifetimes of potential lost.

This time it will maybe change the nation, people are tired of the killings across our country, total ban ...NO..!

Tighter look at owners ...Yes.. Hell in my time I have met sum people that should be put in jail just for owning a screw driver.


There is responsible and and insanity.. Remember I am a gun owner, but I am a sane one, that also has the parts to convert my mag semis into full auto at the drop of a hat. ;D

Look at my posting history, and equipment owned.

But for once I do have to speak out against the ones that deny reality here.

Have fun in your own created world, True life does sum times suck, but reality is that way.

Its called life and living i!.

:)*#*

Peace bro...

[ziero0]

lI tend to look at the real and not what I want to see.

I have a theory that 3975 khz is not real. Could you help me understand why it is real?

[By the way I am hoping you can succeed 'cause I intend to stake my claim to it if it is real]

[Dogman]

I have a theory that 3975 khz is not real. Could you help me understand why it is real? Yep as you know, real, tad above the am broadcast band but below the 75 meter ham bands The freq has legs at night and especially during sun activity. Need huge antennas to work with it.

For example..


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremely_low_frequency

Lmfao..

KI5NM said that.Tho you knew the answer already..

You you, provocateur... You !

9718

Rotflmfao !

[ziero0]

Yep as you know, real,
Good. Then I can claim it. It is now my cattle.

Just illustrating that the brain is a poor instrument to use to differentiate between the real and the imaginary.

[Dogman]

Good. Then I can claim it. It is now my cattle.

Just illustrating that the brain is a poor instrument to use to differentiate between the real and the imaginary. Thank you for my first good laugh in a while..

Keep on keeping on and fight the good fight.. You made my morning..

9719

[Ares]

Black and white, I feel sad for they that are into their own reality and mentally reject the real. Mostly to enforce their own false reality. Dude I did and still thought you were a cut above the herd. Tho I still hold hope...;D

It happened, blood was shed, family's were devastated, and young ones are into dirt sleep, and lifetimes of potential lost.

This time it will maybe change the nation, people are tired of the killings across our country, total ban ...NO..!

Tighter look at owners ...Yes.. Hell in my time I have met sum people that should be put in jail just for owning a screw driver.


There is responsible and and insanity.. Remember I am a gun owner, but I am a sane one, that also has the parts to convert my mag semis into full auto at the drop of a hat. ;D

Look at my posting history, and equipment owned.

But for once I do have to speak out against the ones that deny reality here.

Have fun in your own created world, True life does sum times suck, but reality is that way.

Its called life and living i!.

:)*#*

Peace bro...

Like I said, just like at Sandy Hook, prove that someone was actually shot.

Instead you and the media are backing a 21 year old woman (Alexa Miednik), a fag who didn't even go to that school (show me proof Dogman, a school record anything.) Now you have CNN touting this same fag saying "I'm not a crisis actor" LOL Well if CNN is trying to shore up support then you know its fucking fake.

They've been called out for bullshit for years now. Yet you of all people are going to believe this crap?

Over 140,000+ kids have been murdered via abortion, but lets ban guns... :rolleyes:

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9720&d=1519220988

It's for the children.....

[Dogman]

Like I said, just like at Sandy Hook, prove that someone was actually shot.

Instead you and the media are backing a 21 year old woman (Alexa Miednik), a fag who didn't even go to that school (show me proof Dogman, a school record anything.) Now you have CNN touting this same fag saying "I'm not a crisis actor" LOL Well if CNN is trying to shore up support then you know its fucking fake.

They've been called out for bullshit for years now. Yet you of all people are going to believe this crap?

Over 140,000+ kids have been murdered via abortion, but lets ban guns... :rolleyes:

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9720&d=1519220988

It's for the children.....Feel sad for you.

Keep on trucking...!

Going to try and exit this stage, not worth my time, and keypad time,

One hint in life, is to recognize when one finds kicking a brick wall , only ends up with a sour foot and nothing changes other maybe knocking sum moss a brick or so. I will never change, and you also, so why get into an endless blowing of hot air..

Be well.

Peace!

;D

[monty]

Tracy Beanz sez . . .

https://twitter.com/tracybeanz/status/966290773133144064

“fake news”

[Dogman]

I have a theory that 3975 khz is not real. Could you help me understand why it is real?

[By the way I am hoping you can succeed 'cause I intend to stake my claim to it if it is real] Shit , shit, been a while, 80 meter ham band, am an idiot , other idiots crowd that band plus atmosphere noise/ qrm and general crap makes it hard to use. (unless using an amp) does have legs depending on the season and sun cycle. Been a while , been non radioactive for a tad.. Need to put up another full wave loop, last one died the good fight , but lost it due to a falling tree limb. (more like a full tree) But that is another story....;D

73,s knew sumpthing was wrong with my early post to you, I used to like the very top of the band, near the MAR'S band, (which I was a AF rely station in the day)

Getting old, you still made my day.

Keep on trucking

Still get confused, used to haunt the 3900 plus a few hundred kz up, 3.95 ? been a while, my confused Higher freq the the higher higher the band number. I loved the top end of the 8075 meter band, but still small band and everyone wanted to use it when it opened at night. (lower feqs took outrageous antenna sizes. 75 meters need good space very near 400 feet of wire needed. (375 or so feet, depending on center freq, iir) ;D

Or sump thing like 160 feet per side for a half wave dipole. a tuner is your friend despite the freq.

The square law , works not only in radio/power/pipes/water volume +++ so far as physical volume or data flow for dam near everything if you think about it... That dam law is universal.

Be well and enjoy your day...

[Ares]

Tracy Beanz sez . . .

https://twitter.com/tracybeanz/status/966290773133144064

“fake news”

The Yearbook photo posted by Laguna Beach Antifa no less is fake. They also tagged Russia, most likely to muddy the waters.

[ziero0]

Oh and now news is reporting that the Florida Teachers retirement fund is heavily invested in the company that made the AR15 used in the (presumed) shooting.

The level of man-ure is getting deep.

[madfranks]

think this is one of the videos tube is hiding. hogg struggles mightily to recite his lines

https://153news.net/watch_video.php?v=A58MWA6G91WM

David Hogg Can’t Remember His Lines When Interviewed

Wow, I watched that video and it REALLY looks like a kid struggling to remember memorized lines, and not recalling what he saw with his own eyes.

[Horn]

David will be sure to be onsite of the next high school shooting,

it will be conveniently timed just as soon as you start to forget the last school or mass shooting event.

[JohnQPublic]

This website claims a David Hoggs was in the Redondo Beach Union Class of 2016: http://redondounionhighschool.org/alumni/7751238/david-hoggs.html

Here is where the page is linked: http://redondounionhighschool.org/alumni-by-class.html

[Horn]

His name is all so strange when compared to the David and Goliath story.

Its only turned out about itself such that he is the David for the Hoggs.

[JohnQPublic]

Another site lists him as class of 2013: https://old-friends.co/class.php?s=16322&c=2013

Clearly people are screwing around here...
Someone needs to post a real Pilot Yearbook from 2015 online.

[JohnQPublic]

Another site lists him as class of 2013: https://old-friends.co/class.php?s=16322&c=2013

Clearly people are screwing around here...
Someone needs to post a real Pilot Yearbook from 2015 online.


All you need to do is fill out one of these forms: http://www.classmates.com/registration/registration.jsp?pageName=reg|step4&cType=school&communityId=3977

9721

For the record- I did not submit it.

[Dachsie]

Twitter and YouTube show a strong pattern of removing videos and ending channels or deleting accounts for anyone

who posts material related to Florida "shooting" AND "crisis actors"


YouTube appears to be suiciding itself and many are moving to D Tube over this specific pattern and problem, and other platforms. So far I do not see that other platforms are providing ways for account owners and posters to make any money, real money. Maybe that is a good thing as maybe it means no advertisers. Not sure.

One big thing THEY, like YouTube and other social media platforms, do NOT WANT, is for us to talk to each other and try to reason together and figure things out to some degree, aka searing for facts and truth.

I am still stuck in trying to figure out how exactly we know there was actual shooter or shooters and how we know or could know there were people killed and people injured.

My study of past false flag events tells me that it is extremely difficult to find that kind of fact and truth.

People are posting much good looking information about "crisis actors" and "the shooter" but all of that seems to accept, a priori, that there was a true "crisis" and that there was a true "shooter." Rabbit hole goes very deep.

[cheka.]

Wow, I watched that video and it REALLY looks like a kid struggling to remember memorized lines, and not recalling what he saw with his own eyes.

that must be why youtube keeps gassing it whenever somebody uploads it

[cheka.]

Twitter and YouTube show a strong pattern of removing videos and ending channels or deleting accounts for anyone

who posts material related to Florida "shooting" AND "crisis actors"


YouTube appears to be suiciding itself and many are moving to D Tube over this specific pattern and problem, and other platforms. So far I do not see that other platforms are providing ways for account owners and posters to make any money, real money. Maybe that is a good thing as maybe it means no advertisers. Not sure.

One big thing THEY, like YouTube and other social media platforms, do NOT WANT, is for us to talk to each other and try to reason together and figure things out to some degree, aka searing for facts and truth.

I am still stuck in trying to figure out how exactly we know there was actual shooter or shooters and how we know or could know there were people killed and people injured.

My study of past false flag events tells me that it is extremely difficult to find that kind of fact and truth.

People are posting much good looking information about "crisis actors" and "the shooter" but all of that seems to accept, a priori, that there was a true "crisis" and that there was a true "shooter." Rabbit hole goes very deep.

dachs -- dont sweat real or fake. doesnt matter - the effects are the same, the perps are the same, the 'solutions' the bolsheviks are pushing are the same

i think our time is better spent on the WHO

[Dogman]

Total hoot watching sum here trying to twist the real to fit their agendas.. Which is two stage , both entertaining and sickening at the same time..

Wait until this kind of crap hits any skool your kids or family attend. then lets see what tune you sing.

Sum folks here are beyond sick...

In their collective heads.. or in an singularity faction.

But such is life.

[Dachsie]

"dachs -- dont sweat real or fake. doesnt matter - the effects are the same, the perps are the same, the 'solutions' the bolsheviks are pushing are the same

i think our time is better spent on the WHO "


Yes, that seems to be true. But I still will always cling to finding basic FACTS first.

Many "truthers" in past false events, such as 9-11 will do a strong job of saying the Bolsheviks did it but they also adhere to very unfactual data and theories of what actually physically happened or did not happen.

But I remember that it was Dr. James Fetzer, Liberal Leftist agnostic, who took the idea that trying to find facts and learned what actually happened and what did not actually happen about 9-11-01 is the best way to show the WHO and point the finger squarely at the true WHO did it.

From his studies, Dr. Fetzer eventually cites the neocons and the Mossad, along with the CIA as the perpetrators of 9-11. But Dr. Fetzer arrived at those conclusion based on what did or did not happen during the destruction of the World Trade Center Buildings and the aftermath evidence of same. He also first came to the conclusion that it was definitely NOT what we call a "classic controlled demolition" and did not involve typical "explosives." He also first settled the matter that there were no planes, that is the four "hijacked" planes at the 3 "crash sites."

Christopher Bollyn, and others who have done extensive work about 9-11 gives his extensive reasons why the "Zionists" and "the Jews" and "the Mossad" did 9-11 YET AT THE SAME TIME Bollyn has almost a religious belief in Dr. Steven Jones' "nanothermite explosives" theory. Steven Jones is a Mormon and has a long history of sabotaging truth on behalf of the Judeo-Masonic-Mormon faction of the Deep State and the nanothermite theory has long since been totally shown to be false theory.


I admit it is almost impossible to find good data and facts about Florida, as all the other false events of the last two decades, but I will keep trying to find them and post them. I just think finding truth and exposing evil is the way I must go.

[cheka.]

cnn had the hogg guy on to deny crisis actor. more interesting, a staffer to a state rep was FIRED for speaking out. also they sent rubio out there to defend hogg

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43140105

Speaking on CNN, student David Hogg said he was a witness.

Conspiracy theorists online have accused the survivors of the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High of being paid actors who travel between the sites of mass shootings.

An aide to a Republican state representative has been fired for repeating the unsubstantiated claims.

David Hogg denounced the allegations on Tuesday night.

"I'm not a crisis actor," David said in an interview with CNN's Anderson Cooper.

"I'm someone who had to witness this and live through this and I continue to be having to do that."

"I'm not acting on anybody's behalf."

An aide to a Florida state representative, Benjamin Kelly, sent an email to the Tampa Bay Times repeating those online claims about David Hogg and his fellow students.

Florida representative Shawn Harrison, whom Mr Kelly worked for, fired his former aide on Tuesday night and denounced his behaviour in a tweet.

Tonight Mr. Kelly was terminated from his position as my District Secretary. I am appalled at and strongly denounce his comments about the Parkland students. I am again sorry for any pain this has caused the grieving families of this tragedy.

Florida senator Marco Rubio also denounced the claims made against David and his fellow students, calling those who made them "disgusting idiots"

[cheka.]

father worked at los angeles field office. need to look at the multiple false flags that have happened there

this also causes a problem with the claim that hogg was on 'vacation' when he was in the video on the cali beach. who 'vacations' back to a place they lived n 2014?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/parkland-teen-survivor-david-hogg-welcomes-the-conspiracy-theories

Until three and a half years ago, FBI agents of the Los Angeles field office knew just what to do with the stuffed animals their kids outgrew.

They had only to take the teddy bears and other unneeded stuffies to fellow agent Kevin Hogg, who was assigned to Los Angeles International Airport before his retirement to Florida in 2014.

In his time at LAX defending us against terrorists and smugglers and other evils, Hogg’s office was next to international arrivals and he saw a perpetual stream of refugee children arriving from distant lands with little or nothing besides the clothes they wore

“The hard work and dedication of the FBI agents of the Los Angeles field office,” the son said with enduring pride. “Passion and caring.”

[Dachsie]

My post # 49 in the Q Matters thread has Destroy the Illusion, Jordan Sather, giving specifics of this Hogg crisis actor appears at a "crisis" event in California a few months ago I think. Jordan comments on what are the odds that for both times, Hogg appeared as a "witness" to the event and was on a national TV news outlet telling his opinion, and opposite ends of the country.

Now that Destroy the Illusion video has been deleted by YouTube and it was just posted late Feb 20 evening.

[cheka.]

i found articles with kevin hogg in 2011 and 2014 with lax airport. i also read that he worked the day shift. his son said his dad reported to work every day at 6 am.

this mass shooting happened on his watch

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Los_Angeles_International_Airport_shooting

On November 1, 2013, a shooting occurred at around 9:20 a.m. PDT in Terminal 3 of the Los Angeles International Airport. Paul Anthony Ciancia, aged 23, opened fire with a rifle, killing a U.S. government Transportation Security Administration officer and injuring several other people.

On the morning of Friday, November 1, 2013, Ciancia entered Terminal 3 of Los Angeles International Airport after being dropped off there by a roommate.[4] He was carrying a bag filled with a semiautomatic,[5] .223-caliber Smith & Wesson M&P-15 rifle, five 30-round magazines, and hundreds of additional rounds of ammunition contained in boxes.[2][6] Walking up to a TSA checkpoint, he pulled the rifle out of the bag and opened fire, shooting TSA Officer Gerardo Hernandez in the chest at point-blank range. He then went up an escalator, but returned to the checkpoint and shot Hernandez again after seeing him move.[1][3][4]

Ciancia then moved up the escalator into the TSA screening area, passed the checkpoint area, and moved farther into the secure airside area of the terminal. At the time, many people fled by going into the concourse area or through doors leading into the airfield. Entering the concourse area, Ciancia continued firing, wounding two TSA agents and a passenger. People hiding in the concourse area then fled the terminal through street exits.[2][6] One witness, interviewed on CNN, said the gunman was walking, not running, down the terminal's concourse,[7] and actor Tim Daly reported hearing shooting while in the Virgin America first-class lounge.[8] According to several witnesses, Ciancia repeatedly asked passersby if they were TSA agents and then moved on without shooting when they said no.[4] At 9:20 a.m., the first calls to 9-1-1 were made, followed by the arrival of the first LAX officers two minutes later.[2]

Ciancia made it as far as the end of the terminal in the food court, where LAX police officers confronted him and shot him in a gunfight. He was wounded four times by gunshots and captured before being transported via ambulance to a nearby trauma hospital.[1][7] Witnesses saw a rifle with three magazines nearby on the floor of the waiting area near gates 35 and 36.[8] Police were unsure whether the terminal was safe for paramedics to enter, and as a result Hernandez lay wounded about 20 feet from an exit without medical attention for 33 minutes. He bled out from his gunshot wounds before being put in a wheelchair and escorted out of the terminal. He was taken to Harbor-UCLA Medical Center.[1]

Suspect

Paul Anthony Ciancia, age 23,[23] was identified as the sole suspect. An unemployed car mechanic, he lived in the Sun Valley neighborhood of Los Angeles and grew up in Pennsville, New Jersey.[24] In 2008, Ciancia graduated from Salesianum School.[25]

After the shooting ended, Ciancia was found to be carrying a note stating that he "wanted to kill TSA" and describing them as "pigs".[26] It also mentioned "fiat currency" and "NWO", the latter likely being a reference to the New World Order conspiracy theory.[6]

On the day of the shooting and before Ciancia was identified as the suspect, the LAPD went to his residence when concerned family members wanted to file a missing persons report after not having heard from him after repeated attempts to make contact. Ciancia was not at home at the time and his roommates told them that he had been there earlier in the day. The police left and could not file a report, because they had confirmation on where he was. Ciancia had talked about taking his own life a few days earlier.[26]

According to reports, on the day of the shooting, Ciancia burst into the room of an unidentified roommate and demanded him to drive him to the airport immediately, and the roommate, not sensing any intention of committing violence, agreed to do so. Days prior to the shooting, Ciancia had begun asking for a ride to the airport so he could fly back to New Jersey, claiming that his father was ill.[4]

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grabbing these before scrubbed from internet

https://www.dailybreeze.com/2011/06/30/nigerian-man-arrested-at-lax-on-stowaway-charges/

June 30, 2011 at 12:00 am | UPDATED: September 6, 2017 at 8:22 am

A Nigerian man was arrested on stowaway charges for flying from New York to Los Angeles International Airport with an expired boarding pass that belonged to someone else, the FBI said today.

Olajide Oluwaseun Noibi, 24, was carrying at least 10 other airline tickets that didn’t belong to him when he was arrested while trying to board a flight from LAX to Atlanta early Wednesday morning, according to an affidavit written by Kevin Hogg, an FBI special agent assigned to the airport.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/parkland-teen-survivor-david-hogg-welcomes-the-conspiracy-theories?via=desktop&social=Linkedin

.....Kevin Hogg, who was assigned to Los Angeles International Airport before his retirement to Florida in 2014.

Of course, Kevin Hogg also had his regular duties, which required him to leave home at 6 a.m. each day and usually not return until midnight. He sometimes finally got home only to turn around immediately and head back to attend to some urgent matter.

“This is atrocious, golf over children's blood?!?!,” David Hogg tweeted. “What does that say about our future. You are either for or against the children and right now you’re against them. This is why we must take action because these politicians won’t.”

But he remained reasonable in his positions on gun control when The Daily Beast reached him by phone on Monday. He was out in Los Angeles, where he had just been on Dr. Phil. He spoke to The Daily Beast as he grabbed some lunch, for all his maturity still being just 17, with a teenage appetite.

[cheka.]

hogg kid in los angeles doing tv shows, jews funding the protests

https://www.thedailybeast.com/parkland-teen-survivor-david-hogg-welcomes-the-conspiracy-theories?via=desktop&social=Linkedin

“This is atrocious, golf over children's blood?!?!,” David Hogg tweeted. “What does that say about our future. You are either for or against the children and right now you’re against them. This is why we must take action because these politicians won’t.”

But he remained reasonable in his positions on gun control when The Daily Beast reached him by phone on Monday. He was out in Los Angeles, where he had just been on Dr. Phil. He spoke to The Daily Beast as he grabbed some lunch, for all his maturity still being just 17, with a teenage appetite.

Steven Spielberg and Jeffrey Katzenberg had also pledged $500,000 each toward the March 24 demonstration.

[Dachsie]

hogg kid in los angeles doing tv shows, jews funding the protests

https://www.thedailybeast.com/parkland-teen-survivor-david-hogg-welcomes-the-conspiracy-theories?via=desktop&social=Linkedin

“This is atrocious, golf over children's blood?!?!,” David Hogg tweeted. “What does that say about our future. You are either for or against the children and right now you’re against them. This is why we must take action because these politicians won’t.”

But he remained reasonable in his positions on gun control when The Daily Beast reached him by phone on Monday. He was out in Los Angeles, where he had just been on Dr. Phil. He spoke to The Daily Beast as he grabbed some lunch, for all his maturity still being just 17, with a teenage appetite.

Steven Spielberg and Jeffrey Katzenberg had also pledged $500,000 each toward the March 24 demonstration.


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Very good info about Hogg and that blond girl who told us about "second shooter" is actually 21 years old, no way to be senior in high school.

Also good thoughts on how Deep State or Sunstein whatever are deliberately bothing this Florida false flag and planting false background info on Hogg and others. Be careful in posting what you think is "verified" inforamation as that is set up to use against us in the future.

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Watch this video fast because YouTube is deleting his videos right and left so may not be there in a few minutes.
Anti-School moving to D Tube and Steemit. Jordan may soon move too.

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"Steven Spielberg and Jeffrey Katzenberg had also pledged $500,000 each toward the March 24 demonstration. "

I was researching today what "blood libel" means.
Maybe this March 24 is the new kid of fake false phony cyber bot blood libel ceremony.

[cheka.]

who is the sexton family i keep hearing people refer to? i see they match the photo of the sandy hook - but who are they in this story?

[Cebu_4_2]

who is the sexton family i keep hearing people refer to? i see they match the photo of the sandy hook - but who are they in this story?

No clue in this story but as soon as I heard that name it related to the SH false flag. Weren't they one of them homeowners that had the house paid off after/prior to the 'incident'?

[Neuro]

"dachs -- dont sweat real or fake. doesnt matter - the effects are the same, the perps are the same, the 'solutions' the bolsheviks are pushing are the same

i think our time is better spent on the WHO "


Yes, that seems to be true. But I still will always cling to finding basic FACTS first.

Many "truthers" in past false events, such as 9-11 will do a strong job of saying the Bolsheviks did it but they also adhere to very unfactual data and theories of what actually physically happened or did not happen.

But I remember that it was Dr. James Fetzer, Liberal Leftist agnostic, who took the idea that trying to find facts and learned what actually happened and what did not actually happen about 9-11-01 is the best way to show the WHO and point the finger squarely at the true WHO did it.

From his studies, Dr. Fetzer eventually cites the neocons and the Mossad, along with the CIA as the perpetrators of 9-11. But Dr. Fetzer arrived at those conclusion based on what did or did not happen during the destruction of the World Trade Center Buildings and the aftermath evidence of same. He also first came to the conclusion that it was definitely NOT what we call a "classic controlled demolition" and did not involve typical "explosives." He also first settled the matter that there were no planes, that is the four "hijacked" planes at the 3 "crash sites."

Christopher Bollyn, and others who have done extensive work about 9-11 gives his extensive reasons why the "Zionists" and "the Jews" and "the Mossad" did 9-11 YET AT THE SAME TIME Bollyn has almost a religious belief in Dr. Steven Jones' "nanothermite explosives" theory. Steven Jones is a Mormon and has a long history of sabotaging truth on behalf of the Judeo-Masonic-Mormon faction of the Deep State and the nanothermite theory has long since been totally shown to be false theory.


I admit it is almost impossible to find good data and facts about Florida, as all the other false events of the last two decades, but I will keep trying to find them and post them. I just think finding truth and exposing evil is the way I must go.

I wasn’t aware that the nanothermite theory of 911 has been proven false. Would you care to show the evidence of that?

As it isn’t part of this threads gist, you could start a new thread laying out the evidence that nanothermite didn’t bring down the WTC buildings on 9/11-01.