Dachsie
15th March 2018, 01:08 PM
Read some interesting information about a book that claims that the lower classes in America have always been treated like dirt and that the country was not founded on Christian principles or God or anything like that. Says it was founded on England's aristocracy getting rid of poor white trash by sending them to USA.
I think I agree with some of the facts about our true founding, but when I went to Amazon I could see that it was an Eisenberg / Winfrey type screed and not really about telling whole story. Catholic social teach takes no position of what form of government is the best but states clearly that the American "Constitutional Republic" is not consistent with Catholic social teaching where there is no separation of church and state and where Christ the King rules here and now and in the hereafter. So I personally early questioned all the sappy patriotic propaganda from Hollywood movies, etc.
But still think it is worth discussing.
https://ppjg.me/2018/02/27/human-waste-the-buying-selling-trading-of-the-elderly-children-and-prisoners/
The second main part of this article is another article about Administrative Law Courts, like the kind with state and federal agencies, and how it is those non-courts of law determine the fate of the Elderly, Children and Prisoners.
Human Waste: The Buying, Selling & Trading of the Elderly, Children and Prisoners
February 27, 2018
ppjg Uncategorized Administrative tribunals, Christian Principles, human trafficking, human waste, humans as property, Marti Oakley, slavery, The PPJ Gazette, White Trash Leave a comment
Marti Oakley
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https://ppjg.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/white-trash.jpg?w=93&h=150
The book titled, “White Trash. The 400-Year Untold History of Class in America”, by author Nancy Isenberg, exposes our true beginnings as a nation. We were NOT founded on Christian principles…….we were founded on land ownership, slavery and indenture-ship. No religion, other than greed, was ever a consideration. That’s another one of those carefully crafted myths that are used to keep you stupid. As long as you think God had a hand in it, everything must be ok. God must have shed many tears over this.
The poor, orphaned, widowed, street beggars and those in prisons, including debtors prisons, were sold by the Crown to titled land owners in the new country. These were the only people allowed to own land. England purged what it considered to be “human waste” and sent it to this new land to be used as property for any reasons whatsoever, by these titled landowners. These landowners were the only people who had any say in anything. The Crown claimed it was necessary as these “human waste” populations were costing the England economy.
If you are at all aware of the current and ongoing buying, selling and trading of America’s children, the elderly, and the selling of prison labor, the entire process and practice has been with us since the beginning of what we now know as “America”.
And just as an aside: Did you know that the Thanksgiving holiday did NOT come from the pilgrims eating a meal with the Indians? That was another carefully crafted myth created during the Civil War. Its in the book and fully documented as is every other observation and statement made. The indexing to the original documents and any other relevant material is exhaustive.
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Here is what Amazon has about this book...
https://www.amazon.com/White-Trash-400-Year-History-America/dp/0143129678/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1521140125&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=%E2%80%9CWhite+Trash.+The+400-Year+Untold+History+of+Class+in+America%E2%80%9D%2 C+by+author+Nancy+Isenberg
Here is one of the many comments on this book.
1.0 out of 5 starsDisappointing, sometimes incoherent
ByRobert H. Stine Jr.on August 21, 2016
Format: Hardcover|Verified Purchase
After reading "White Trash", I gather that Nancy Isenberg is mad. Really mad. She's furious at the denial of the central role of class in our country, now and throughout its history. She is even more angry at the blatant unfairness of it all. People at the bottom economic rungs are systematically denied so much: decent housing, adequate food, education, and respect. And then, salt in the wound, they are blamed for their own problem, which are diagnosed as the result of moral turpitude.
I get that. What a raw deal! But Isenberg is inarticulate, sometimes incoherent in describing the problem. When relating the history of class and class bias in our country, she adopts the tactic of "proof by vigorous assertion", stating her conclusion again and again (e.g., saying people were labeled as trash, and the colonies were seen as a dumping ground), but little or not support. The text has endnotes, but determining how or whether the citations support her points is left as an exercise to the reader. In addition, an interplay between sweeping generalizations and concrete examples is sorely missing -- the narrative seems stuck at the 10,000 foot level.
In addition to largely unsupported claims, the text contains some howlers that sabotage its credibility. Isenberg claims that Thomas Paine supported class distinctions and hierarchy, an absurd, slanderous charge to make against a man who risked his life and fortune by challenging the notion of aristocracy. She cites the land-owning, church deacon and USNA graduate, Jimmy, Carter, as an example of white trash, which makes it clear she has no clue as to the denotation and connotation of that term. And she claims that denying abortion services to low income, minority women is a form of eugenics(!), which makes my head spin every time I think of it.
We need a serious discussion on the role of class in our society, both present and past. "White Trash" fails to fill this role.
I think I agree with some of the facts about our true founding, but when I went to Amazon I could see that it was an Eisenberg / Winfrey type screed and not really about telling whole story. Catholic social teach takes no position of what form of government is the best but states clearly that the American "Constitutional Republic" is not consistent with Catholic social teaching where there is no separation of church and state and where Christ the King rules here and now and in the hereafter. So I personally early questioned all the sappy patriotic propaganda from Hollywood movies, etc.
But still think it is worth discussing.
https://ppjg.me/2018/02/27/human-waste-the-buying-selling-trading-of-the-elderly-children-and-prisoners/
The second main part of this article is another article about Administrative Law Courts, like the kind with state and federal agencies, and how it is those non-courts of law determine the fate of the Elderly, Children and Prisoners.
Human Waste: The Buying, Selling & Trading of the Elderly, Children and Prisoners
February 27, 2018
ppjg Uncategorized Administrative tribunals, Christian Principles, human trafficking, human waste, humans as property, Marti Oakley, slavery, The PPJ Gazette, White Trash Leave a comment
Marti Oakley
_______________________
https://ppjg.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/white-trash.jpg?w=93&h=150
The book titled, “White Trash. The 400-Year Untold History of Class in America”, by author Nancy Isenberg, exposes our true beginnings as a nation. We were NOT founded on Christian principles…….we were founded on land ownership, slavery and indenture-ship. No religion, other than greed, was ever a consideration. That’s another one of those carefully crafted myths that are used to keep you stupid. As long as you think God had a hand in it, everything must be ok. God must have shed many tears over this.
The poor, orphaned, widowed, street beggars and those in prisons, including debtors prisons, were sold by the Crown to titled land owners in the new country. These were the only people allowed to own land. England purged what it considered to be “human waste” and sent it to this new land to be used as property for any reasons whatsoever, by these titled landowners. These landowners were the only people who had any say in anything. The Crown claimed it was necessary as these “human waste” populations were costing the England economy.
If you are at all aware of the current and ongoing buying, selling and trading of America’s children, the elderly, and the selling of prison labor, the entire process and practice has been with us since the beginning of what we now know as “America”.
And just as an aside: Did you know that the Thanksgiving holiday did NOT come from the pilgrims eating a meal with the Indians? That was another carefully crafted myth created during the Civil War. Its in the book and fully documented as is every other observation and statement made. The indexing to the original documents and any other relevant material is exhaustive.
____________
Here is what Amazon has about this book...
https://www.amazon.com/White-Trash-400-Year-History-America/dp/0143129678/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1521140125&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=%E2%80%9CWhite+Trash.+The+400-Year+Untold+History+of+Class+in+America%E2%80%9D%2 C+by+author+Nancy+Isenberg
Here is one of the many comments on this book.
1.0 out of 5 starsDisappointing, sometimes incoherent
ByRobert H. Stine Jr.on August 21, 2016
Format: Hardcover|Verified Purchase
After reading "White Trash", I gather that Nancy Isenberg is mad. Really mad. She's furious at the denial of the central role of class in our country, now and throughout its history. She is even more angry at the blatant unfairness of it all. People at the bottom economic rungs are systematically denied so much: decent housing, adequate food, education, and respect. And then, salt in the wound, they are blamed for their own problem, which are diagnosed as the result of moral turpitude.
I get that. What a raw deal! But Isenberg is inarticulate, sometimes incoherent in describing the problem. When relating the history of class and class bias in our country, she adopts the tactic of "proof by vigorous assertion", stating her conclusion again and again (e.g., saying people were labeled as trash, and the colonies were seen as a dumping ground), but little or not support. The text has endnotes, but determining how or whether the citations support her points is left as an exercise to the reader. In addition, an interplay between sweeping generalizations and concrete examples is sorely missing -- the narrative seems stuck at the 10,000 foot level.
In addition to largely unsupported claims, the text contains some howlers that sabotage its credibility. Isenberg claims that Thomas Paine supported class distinctions and hierarchy, an absurd, slanderous charge to make against a man who risked his life and fortune by challenging the notion of aristocracy. She cites the land-owning, church deacon and USNA graduate, Jimmy, Carter, as an example of white trash, which makes it clear she has no clue as to the denotation and connotation of that term. And she claims that denying abortion services to low income, minority women is a form of eugenics(!), which makes my head spin every time I think of it.
We need a serious discussion on the role of class in our society, both present and past. "White Trash" fails to fill this role.