free trade = globalism = open borders

[cheka.]

wrestling with the disconnect....people's free trade propaganda lernins iz hard to deprogram. they cling to it like a religion (despite the proof of crushing the middle class)

i see so many intellectually challenged people advocating for closed borders and free trade. that is like being half bolshevik globalist

it's time to tie it all together -- globalism = free trade + open borders

working on a good term to call these diseased individuals --- free-trade-open-border globalist is a bit too long

help? :confused:

[Horn]

the religion of freetrade is not free trade, a litany of numerous detailed to state submittals is required with exacting overseer penalty for any omissions and errors on inspection, they are however good for coorporate monopoly and collusion.

Freetrade religion should be named by monopoly only corporate trade agreement.

Free trade is beneficial to you and me and why the globalist sovereign states are guilty of theft by freetrade agreements.

if trade were free, people would reject any chinese based upon a slave to state labor condition, by U.S. state agreement that trade has been approved, when it should've been prohibited.

All or nothing, no permit by select tariffs which is globalization mince trading with unfree nations.

What U.S. does is, expects nation states to revise through Central bank (up the wazoo) taxes to be imposed upon income, which is wholly backwards and unfree. Reason the Fed rejects Sales Tax, cause it leaves too much #s control $% up to bargaining individuals.

Borders are unrelated or only enhanced by any kind of state agreement.

[cheka.]

the 'free' trade that i was referring to is the actual reality of how nyc.dc uses it (and not the theoretical variety they we we've been plied with for decades - but doesnt exist)

[Horn]

Any trade agreement will strengthen a border.

You have no idea the amount of coorporate/state bureacracy involved in freetrade until attempting it.

Most of it is all for patent and monopoly protection rackets.

Free trade is hijacked by agreement. They see any upstart company coming from miles away and deflate it on arrival.

Nationalist is globalist, if you want succeed as a nation in trading you only trade when its profitable for the nation.

Its most likely that there wouldn't be any trading at all.

[Horn]

Costa Rica recently formed a freetrade agreement with Chile. The news coverage then reported that: well there really were not many items that costa rica did not already have coming from chile and vice versa. Chile has everything costa rica has.

Regardless port authorities were notified to put any boats coming from that direction into getting freelytraded.

Both nations most likely lost from the decision to remove existing tariffs between them by creating 1000 people at import authority to critique those anticipated arrivals from either country for dotted I and crossed T

[hoarder]

What you are referring to is international trade. The government should not interfere with most transactions between one American and another, IOW they should allow free trade in markets, including labor. Jews have taken that kind of free trade and combined it with trade across borders and called it "free trade" instead of international trade. The latter is what we should oppose, not advocate for more laws regulating domestic trade.

[cheka.]

Any trade agreement will strengthen a border.

You have no idea the amount of coorporate/state bureacracy involved in freetrade until attempting it.

Most of it is all for patent and monopoly protection rackets.

Free trade is hijacked by agreement. They see any upstart company coming from miles away and deflate it on arrival.

Nationalist is globalist, if you want succeed as a nation in trading you only trade when its profitable for the nation.

Its most likely that there wouldn't be any trading at all.

from what i gather, trade agreements as applied today, are simply legal frameworks that protect the megacorp from the sovereign. this gives the megacorp vast comparative advantages against anybody not megacorp/included in the contract

in effect, the OPPOSITE of free trade (upside down, like everything else these days)

[Horn]

Absolutely, further empowers the existing corporate monopoly, a net effect is that with so much swag in globalcorp. that they
are the main movers of immigration. They will empower those agreements and the strongest of borders to its finality though.

I almost think the current tariff will endup in being freetraded with China, now that IT is all sorted into corps. IT is seeking those agreements before "opening"

The rest of the planet besides China is basically kaput either way played out with any corporate migration, Well except for Filipinos, the entire planet will be Filipino, there's no avoiding that apparently.

[singular_me]

no man-made laws can prevent collusion (free association) and the ownership of Nature , so yes, there is a problem. Nature owns us instead. Any theory that says otherwise will cause human suffering and the destruction of Nature.

The ownership of nature is the centerpiece of capitalism, so capitalism owns Life, which is an atheistic premise

Working along with Nature brings about a greater good... love is the real name of the game.

unless humanity wakes up fast, we are freaking doomed

[Horn]

China Prepares "Emergency Response Plan" Amid Escalating US Trade War

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-18/china-prepares-emergency-response-plan-amid-escalating-us-trade-war

Here's China force reached into seeking those same agreements. What it'll do is hook them into copyright laws that those Eurofags and others can sue to recoupe "intellectual property" while also demanding compliance before shipment.

Trump's direction is to corner China into those "freetrade" agreements.

[Horn]

This were a good associated topic on hedge.


In other words, to supply the world with dollars, the United States would always have to run a trade deficit whereby the dollar amount of imports exceeds the dollar amount of exports. Running persistent deficits, the United States would become a debtor nation. The fact that other countries need to hold U.S. dollars as reserves tends to offset the effects of consistent deficits and keeps the dollar stronger than it would have been otherwise.

The arrangement is as follows: Foreign nations accumulate and spend dollars through trade. To manage their economies with minimal financial shocks, they must keep excess dollars on hand. These excess dollars, known as excess reserves, are invested primarily in U.S. denominated investments ranging from bank deposits to U.S. Treasury securities and a wide range of other financial securities. As the global economy expanded and more trade occurred, additional dollars were required. Further, foreign dollar reserves grew and were lent back, in one form or another, to the US economy. This is akin to buying a car with a loan from the automaker. The only difference is that trade-related transactions occurred with increasing frequency, the loans are never paid back, and the deficits accumulate (Spoiler Alert – the auto dealer would have cut the purchaser off well before the debt burden became too onerous).
The world has grown dependent on this arrangement as there are benefits to all parties involved. The U.S. purchases imports with dollars lent to her by the same nations that sold the goods. Additionally, the need for foreign nations to hold dollars and invest them in the U.S. has resulted in lower U.S. interest rates, which further encourages consumption and at the same time provides relative support for the dollar. For their part, foreign nations benefited as manufacturing shifted away from the United States to their nations. As this occurred, increased demand for their products supported employment and income growth, thus raising the prosperity of their respective citizens.
While it may appear the post-Bretton Woods covenant was a win-win pact, there is a massive cost accruing to everyone involved. The U.S. is mired in economic stagnation due to overwhelming debt burdens and a reliance on record low-interest rates to further spur debt-driven consumption. The rest of the world, on the other hand, is her creditor and on the hook if and when those debts fail to be satisfied. Thus, Triffin’s paradox simply states that with the benefits of the reserve currency also comes an inevitable tipping point or failure.


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-18/triffin-warned-us

[Horn]

christ this formatting thing is barely manageable

[Cebu_4_2]

christ this formatting thing is barely manageable

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