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65strat
29th April 2018, 08:02 PM
https://fitzinfo.wordpress.com/2018/03/20/why-soviet-russia-helped-trump-get-elected/

Trump’s over-the-top behaviour and persona makes a convenient caricature out of conservatism. It has provided a rallying point around which Leftists can punch holes in an easily deflatable strawman blow-up clown doll. This is only possible because Trump does not embody genuine conservative values. He is the creature of New York, Jewish yuppy culture and is led by his lust, greed, and narcissism. This caricaturization is being used the same way the Zionists used the caricature of Hitler to galvanize the fractured Jewish community. It lead to to an intense period of cohesion for Hitler’s opponents, while he and the Nazis became more and more discredited. The Hitler caricature also enabled the Jewish money power to inoculate the world against any return to nationalism, which is the natural opponent of communism (and Zionism). The Soviets strive for the same goals, despite pretending to be nationalists themselves. Do you think the world will ever look at conservatism and nationalism with any validity, in the post-Hitler, Post-Trump future?

ziero0
29th April 2018, 08:07 PM
I thought the Russians were trying to get Hillary elected because ... she can be bought.

65strat
29th April 2018, 08:28 PM
I thought the Russians were trying to get Hillary elected because ... she can be bought.

read the article!

ziero0
29th April 2018, 08:35 PM
read the article!
I read your abstract.

But ... there are no Russians. Neither are there space aliens or Bigfoot (Bigfeet?) (Bigfoots?) (darn ... big hairy critters that bear a resemblance to Michelle).

65strat
29th April 2018, 08:53 PM
I read your abstract.

But ... there are no Russians. Neither are there space aliens or Bigfoot (Bigfeet?) (Bigfoots?) (darn ... big hairy critters that bear a resemblance to Michelle).

The quote is not an abstract. It's just a paragraph taken from the article. An abstract would be that soviet Russia still exists, that perestroika was just a sham to lull the west, that the Russian troll farms supported both the left and the right during the last elections because their goal is to divide America. And so much more.

ziero0
29th April 2018, 09:03 PM
The quote is not an abstract. It's just a paragraph taken from the article.
A quote appears as the sentence above.

Horn
29th April 2018, 10:31 PM
Russian troll farms supported both the left and the right during the last elections because their goal is to divide America. And so much more.

Its just non-committal diplomacy, there's no doubt boatloads of other countries that court either U.S. candidate.

Russia antes up most likely to get trade restrictions removed, others so relations remain unchanged.

Neuro
29th April 2018, 11:13 PM
There is a problem though with the argument. Russia has seen a revival of conservatism and christianity, and unless the “Russian-communists-Soviets” foresee a Third World War where themselves are beaten into the ground same way as Germany was in WWII. I can’t see how they have a successful strategy. First of all pussyfied cultural Marxist west can’t possibly win a WW against Russia. Second being beaten into the ground is not a good strategy for victory.

Conservative revival and Christianity in Russia is something that is not easily reversed, after the obvious failure and defeat of communism in Russia 30 years ago. Instead I would suggest another theory as to the cultural Marxism rampant in the West. It was created by the same group of Jewish Zionists, as created Bolshevism in Russia 100 years ago. George Soros stands out among them. (:;)

Bigjon
30th April 2018, 01:17 AM
By Timothy Fitzpatrick
March 20, 2018 Anno Domini

While the two sides of the Right-vs-Left partisan theatre continue to squabble over the how, when, and where of Russian collusion with the Trump presidency, the most important question—why—is ignored.

Let us consider the reasons why Putin and the “Russian federation” helped bring Trump to the Oval Office, within the context of Soviet defector Anatoliy Golitsyn’s Perestroikadeception thesis.

First, let’s assume that Golitsyn is correct that the Soviet Union still exists but with the deceptive mask of capitalism and democracy in order to lull the West to sleep over the communist threat so that Russia can later more easily take over the slumbering Western power. (“Perestroika” is Russian for restructuring. The feigned democratization of the USSR was sold to the West as “Perestroika” of the old Soviet system into a new democratized system. Golitsyn said it was a lie.)

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Corroborating Golitsyn’s hundreds of predictions—which goes back to the 1950s and has a better-than-ninety-percent accuracy rate—is the simple fact that the Soviet’s cultural Marxist subversion program has completely taken over the social order in the West. In fact, it’s a completed mission. Pro-Russian conservatives seem to think that the radical Left and its identity politics evolved on its own, perhaps from the hippie movement or something. But it came from the Soviet Union—part of the subversive demoralization phase of what another Soviet defector, Yuri Bezmenov, claimed was part of a four-pronged Soviet strategy of overtaking the West and absorbing it into Lenin’s communistic world government.

With the demoralization phase already complete, we now move on to what Bezmenov described as the destabilization phase. This is where Donald Trump comes in. Here are some basic points to consider when we look at Trump’s usefulness to the crypto-Soviet state of Russia under Putin and it’s long-range goal of weakening America and the West for Soviet takeover:


He is more easily kompromat (compromised and controlled than Hillary, due to sexual compromise, financial and economic blackmail, Jewish-Russia mob deals, etc. Golitsyn called it “co-operation blackmail”.)
He has caused more social and political division domestically and, perhaps, abroad. (divide and conquer strategy).
He has fractured the Right (the destruction of conservatism is top priority for world communism).
He has discredited the Right (by shaping it into a strawman and caricature).
He has emboldened, strengthened, and galvanized the radical Left (sort of like how the Zionists used Hitler to galvanize all the previously divided Jews worldwide).
Trump is bringing America closer to the realization of world government, despite appearances of opposition to globalism (mainly through economic deals and partnerships).

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There is no doubt that Hillary Clinton is a compromised and dirty politician. But so is Donald, and more so.

Sexual compromise is the preferred form of blackmail in the political world and has been since the Bavarian Order of the Illuminati systematized the concept.
There is no way that Hillary can outmatch Trump in this department. From Russia’s point of view, Donald is the easier to manipulate in this respect. Whether the Russians had access to Mossad’s Jeffrey Epstein’s blackmail sex ring that is likely to have ensnared Trump and/or whether the Russian “pissgate” vice has any validity, the Russians have Trump by his balls. Add to that the financial obligations Trump has to the Russian-Jewish money lenders and business and political obligations he has to the Russia-Jewish mafiya that helped him win the presidency and there is no question how compromised Donald is. The Russians knew they could have no where near the same control with Hillary.

Part of the Soviet destabilization plan, outlined by both Golitsyn and Bezmenov, is to radicalize both sides of social discourse in America and the West. Golitsyn said this in the 1980s, yet we have really only seen it reach a head in the last three years.

Was Golitsyn psychic? No, he just knew Soviet strategy and made the simple prediction based on this knowledge. It has now come out that Russian troll farms were promoting extreme points of view from both Right and Left perspectives, especially identity politics, in a provokatsiya (provocation) program, which is an essential part of their massive psychological warfare program. It would be one thing if the troll farms were only promoting right-wing politics, but that they were promoting both corroborates the claims of the two aforementioned Soviet defectors. It shows the real cards of Putin and Russia, who are not out to revitalize conservatism, Christian Orthodoxy, and not out to fight globalism. They are there to destabilize the West so that they can ripen it for the final world government takeover.

Trump is also causing political divisions with his seeming protectionist policies, despite brokering scantly publicized partnerships and deals with nations, including and especially China. What’s more, his unfettered support of the illegal state of Israel is causing even more political divisions.

The Trump hysteria has fractured the Right. This is obvious. Perhaps there has never been more in-fighting and internal division in the conservative movement than now. This has been seen even inside of Trump’s own political party, the GOP.

The plethora of controlled opposition agents (many Russian sponsored) inside the conservative movement is only amplifying this division, as they are promoting bankrupt forms of conservatism, or neoconservatism, which just further muddies the water. Of course, Trump’s brand of conservatism is fake, too. It’s no more real than a three-dollar bill.

Trump’s over-the-top behaviour and persona makes a convenient caricature out of conservatism. It has provided a rallying point around which Leftists can punch holes in an easily deflatable strawman blow-up clown doll. This is only possible because Trump does not embody genuine conservative values. He is the creature of New York, Jewish yuppy culture and is led by his lust, greed, and narcissism.

This caricaturization is being used the same way the Zionists used the caricature of Hitler to galvanize the fractured Jewish community. It lead to to an intense period of cohesion for Hitler’s opponents, while he and the Nazis became more and more discredited. The Hitler caricature also enabled the Jewish money power to inoculate the world against any return to nationalism, which is the natural opponent of communism (and Zionism). The Soviets strive for the same goals, despite pretending to be nationalists themselves.

Do you think the world will ever look at conservatism and nationalism with any validity, in the post-Hitler, Post-Trump future?

The fracturing, discrediting, and caricaturization of the Right has only encouraged the Left that their ideologies are correct. They can now push forward implementing their “truth” all over the world—more easily than had caricatures like Trump never been in power. Now there is the convenient pretext to save the world from any more monsters.

Just accept their communism. Everything will be fine.

We will finally have peace.

Bezmenov illustrated that once the demoralization and destabilization phases had passed, a violent economic and political crisis would evolve. It would eventually lead to a normalization period of stability until the following cycle would reach a crisis point (dialectics).

Trump is merely part of a long-range Soviet strategy to take over the West and eventually absorb it into a world communistic system. This has been a long-time goal for world Jewry. It began, in its modern form, during the October Revolution of 1917 in Russia. So far, everything is going according to the Judeo-Soviet script. It’s just taken a little longer to implement than the Jewish revolutionaries had envisioned.

Neuro
30th April 2018, 02:29 AM
In terms of these “troll farms” making extremist leftist (or probably more often highlighting them) as well as rightist statements. I think it is pretty obvious why they would do that. What is considered extreme leftism today, really is total insanity, so it is easy to ridicule it from an objective normal human perspective. What is considered extreme rightism today, was considered pretty normal conservative values in the 1950’s. The article, I think, is trying to deflect blame for the current cultural Marxism infesting western societies today, to an entity that isn’t important (Russia-Soviet, falsely suggested led by Vladimir Putin), to the one that is. Western Jewish Communist/Capitalist/Zionist, fronted by George Soros.

As far as Trump goes it is obvious he is not a conservative, never was. He is a showman, who says what’s needed to say, to get the audience hooked. He can’t fracture conservatism.