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Bigjon
10th June 2018, 11:20 PM
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Evolution BUSTED: NEW STUDY: 90 percent of all species appeared at the same time.
I had a hunch this was the case but never made a big issue of it. As it turns out, DNA barcoding has proven that 90 percent of all species on earth appeared at the same time, as if aliens came and seeded the earth with life. OR (gasp) GOD DID IT. Gee, maybe there is some substance to the God theory???
I know I have said this before: Expecting evolution to produce an advanced life form out of nothing is like expecting a hurricane to blow over a mineral deposit and leave in it's wake a brand new 747 jet. That really is about it, and now there is strong evidence life came to earth either by design, or was placed here from elsewhere.
From Tech Times (http://www.techtimes.com/articles/228798/20180530/massive-genetic-study-reveals-90-percent-of-earth-s-animals-appeared-at-the-same-time.htm)
"Landmark new research that involves analyzing millions of DNA barcodes has debunked much about what we know today about the evolution of species.
In a massive genetic study, senior research associate at the Program for the Human Environment at Rockefeller University Mark Stoeckle and University of Basel geneticist David Thaler discovered that virtually 90 percent of all animals on Earth appeared at right around the same time.
More specifically, they found out that 9 out of 10 animal species on the planet came to being at the same time as humans did some 100,000 to 200,000 years ago.
"This conclusion is very surprising," says Thaler, "and I fought against it as hard as I could."
What Is DNA Barcoding?
Over the last decade, hundreds of scientists collected around 5 million DNA barcodes from 100,000 animal species in different parts of the globe. Stoeckle and Thaler looked through these 5 million genetic imprints to find one of the most surprising discoveries about evolution to date.
There are two types of DNA. Most people know nuclear DNA. This is the DNA containing the genetic blueprint for each single individual. It is passed down from the parents to the offspring. The genome is made from kinds types of molecules arranged in pairs. There are 3 billion of these pairs, which are then used to form thousands of genes.
More at the link above.
Neuro
11th June 2018, 12:58 AM
That’s the thing, this is not surprising, evolution only happen when environment is exceedingly harsh, when species die out. The survivors are the strongest of the previous species, and the change in the environment made them change their epigenetics which over time changes their offsprings DNA.
The mistake most people do in regards to this is that they think of evolution as a slow ongoing process. Nothing can be further from the truth, it is preceded by extinction events and the very small %-age that manages to survive and adapt to the new world, are the mothers and fathers of a new species. Most of the time in mild to moderate environments most species are in devolution. And of course never in history has humanoids gone through as rapid devolution as we do now. Where morons are being payed to breed, while the brightest women are encouraged to focus on their careers until the end of their reproductive age.
Evolution the primary tool of god, together with environmental disaster.
Bigjon
11th June 2018, 08:28 AM
That’s the thing, this is not surprising, evolution only happen when environment is exceedingly harsh, when species die out. The survivors are the strongest of the previous species, and the change in the environment made them change their epigenetics which over time changes their offsprings DNA.
The mistake most people do in regards to this is that they think of evolution as a slow ongoing process. Nothing can be further from the truth, it is preceded by extinction events and the very small %-age that manages to survive and adapt to the new world, are the mothers and fathers of a new species. Most of the time in mild to moderate environments most species are in devolution. And of course never in history has humanoids gone through as rapid devolution as we do now. Where morons are being payed to breed, while the brightest women are encouraged to focus on their careers until the end of their reproductive age.
Evolution the primary tool of god, together with environmental disaster.
Sorry no cigar.
Expecting evolution to produce an advanced life form out of nothing is like expecting a hurricane to blow over a mineral deposit and leave in it's wake a brand new 747 jet
Neuro
11th June 2018, 04:12 PM
Sorry no cigar.
Expecting evolution to produce an advanced life form out of nothing is like expecting a hurricane to blow over a mineral deposit and leave in it's wake a brand new 747 jet
I certainly agree, but thats not what I said. I don’t think chance meeting of molecules created the simplest life form even. However once simpler life was CREATED evolution could have made it more complex...
You know it’s not an all or nothing proposition.
Bigjon
11th June 2018, 04:21 PM
I certainly agree, but thats not what I said. I don’t think chance meeting of molecules created the simplest life form even. However once simpler life was CREATED evolution could have made it more complex...
You know it’s not an all or nothing proposition.
Still not buying it.
From simple to complex does not happen, in my book.
I could be wrong, but I will only believe it when it is demonstrated in a lab or in nature.
Horn
11th June 2018, 05:35 PM
the change in the environment made them change their epigenetics which over time changes their offsprings DNA
unless ofcourse you are able to un then rewind your DNA, like I do.
My offspring are only carbon copies of myself.
cheka.
11th June 2018, 09:33 PM
Still not buying it.
From simple to complex does not happen, in my book.
I could be wrong, but I will only believe it when it is demonstrated in a lab or in nature.
your grandfather is a rock. ridiculous. but dont question that....if you do, it is anti-sem hate speech
Neuro
12th June 2018, 12:44 AM
Still not buying it.
From simple to complex does not happen, in my book.
I could be wrong, but I will only believe it when it is demonstrated in a lab or in nature.
Not a huge change in complexity, but I guess an equivalent would be if some humans evolved the capacity to metabolize cellulose...
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14094-bacteria-make-major-evolutionary-shift-in-the-lab/
Hillbillies perhaps?
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/305/436/a18.jpg
Neuro
12th June 2018, 12:53 AM
unless ofcourse you are able to un then rewind your DNA, like I do.
My offspring are only carbon copies of myself.
Dear lawd have mercy on us!
Bigjon
12th June 2018, 05:26 AM
Not a huge change in complexity, but I guess an equivalent would be if some humans evolved the capacity to metabolize cellulose...
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14094-bacteria-make-major-evolutionary-shift-in-the-lab/
Did so and so researcher eliminate the possibility that the bacterium's stomach acquired a new enzyme which made the change possible?
We can change our diet via the enzymes we have in our stomach's.
I would put this down as an adaptation using the existing life entities.
Now I would really like an eye in the back of my skull or a third arm so I could hold both wires and solder them with the third arm. Or maybe some wings then I could be an angel?
ziero0
12th June 2018, 05:34 AM
The original premise is not accurate. All species materialized in a single instant. This is without exception.
The plain truth is that 'specie' is a concept that appeared at some point in time in the mind of a man. Before this man had this concept there was no such thing as a 'specie' or 'species'. Even a millisecond prior to the thought appearing they did not exist. The thought is what brought the concept into being. A caveman looked out over the primordial plain and saw a wooly mammoth being stalked by a saber toothed tiger and thought to himself "These beings are not the same. Which is more likely to eat me?"
The process of being is called ification. The process of being again is called reification. Thoughts don't happen over a decade, century or millennia. Ification is nothing more than a thought (like a bubble) floating to the surface where it creates a concept.
Your entire universe is made up of nothing more than the thoughts formed in your own mind. The origin of many of these thoughts are from others. You get to share the illusions of your ancestors.
On a lighter note ... what do you call a veterinarian that works on only a single species?
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Wait for it.
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A Physician.
Neuro
12th June 2018, 06:56 AM
Did so and so researcher eliminate the possibility that the bacterium's stomach acquired a new enzyme which made the change possible?
We can change our diet via the enzymes we have in our stomach's.
I would put this down as an adaptation using the existing life entities.
Now I would really like an eye in the back of my skull or a third arm so I could hold both wires and solder them with the third arm. Or maybe some wings then I could be an angel?
Bacterium doesn’t have a stomach. An enzyme is a protein structure which has the ability to break down another molecule into other molecules. That enzyme is manufactured by the bacterium itself (or in a more complex kring, in a specialized in the salivary glands, stomach, pancreas, liver, intestines) from the blueprint which is the DNA molecule. E Coli doesn’t have the ability to break down citrate, but some of the E Coli in the Petridishes after being exposed to citrate for approximately 31,500 generations acquired this capacity, and thus they are not defined as E coli any longer. They are a new species
Bigjon
12th June 2018, 07:10 AM
Bacterium doesn’t have a stomach. An enzyme is a protein structure which has the ability to break down another molecule into other molecules. That enzyme is manufactured by the bacterium itself (or in a more complex kring, in a specialized in the salivary glands, stomach, pancreas, liver, intestines) from the blueprint which is the DNA molecule. E Coli doesn’t have the ability to break down citrate, but some of the E Coli in the Petridishes after being exposed to citrate for approximately 31,500 generations acquired this capacity, and thus they are not defined as E coli any longer. They are a new species
Let me know when they start talking.
Neuro
12th June 2018, 07:19 AM
Let me know when they start talking.
Bacterium? I think you have set the bar rather high for proof of evolution theory...
Neuro
12th June 2018, 07:19 AM
Let me know when they start talkingBut still they do communicate... And that it is the next evolutionary step for a solitary bacteria to become a more complex multicellular organism, group together in a colony and start cooperating as a unit.
https://www.nature.com/articles/nrmicro1383
Individual bacteria can alter their behaviour through chemical interactions between organisms in microbial communities ? this is generally referred to as quorum sensing. Frequently, these interactions are interpreted in terms of communication to mediate coordinated, multicellular behaviour. We show that the nature of interactions through quorum-sensing chemicals does not simply involve cooperative signals, but entails other interactions such as cues and chemical manipulations. These signals might have a role in conflicts within and between species. The nature of the chemical interaction is important to take into account when studying why and how bacteria react to the chemical substances that are produced by other bacteria.
Let me know when you are prepared to have an adult discussion on the subject.
Horn
12th June 2018, 07:24 AM
The original premise is not accurate. All species materialized in a single instant. This is without exception...
..Ification is nothing more than a thought (like a bubble)...
On a lighter note ... what do you call a veterinarian that works on only a single species?
A Physician.
You obviously is the premise of error in the above question.
Time itself has not been given any wait in your equation.
Please join your fellow scientific weigh rite Orthodox Saturnites in calling him soloperroano.
madfranks
12th June 2018, 07:42 AM
The evolution/creation debate is tough because while much of the scientific principles of evolution make sense, there are major parts of it that to me seem impossible. Such as, life forming from non-living material, or a single celled organism somehow combining with other single celled organisms to become multi-cellular organisms, or the fact that DNA is a digital code and relies on a coding language (language = intelligence) to encode and decode what the little strands of DNA represent. All of that convinces me beyond any doubt that God created life/us. However, like Neuro said earlier, it's not necessarily 100% one or the other; what if evolution is a method (not "the" method, but a method) that God uses to direct the development of humanity? And really, I don't know the answer to that question. But I am very interested in learning more about it.
Neuro
12th June 2018, 08:04 AM
Personally I find it totally impossible, that all the hundreds of different and many times complex molecules that make up the simplest of self replicating life forms (bacteria), could come together by chance not only must all these specific molecules be there, they must also be there in right amounts, and in the correct locations in relation to each other. It is totally impossible this is a chance occurrence. Life must have been created. There is no primordial soup anywhere ever that could possibly turn into life by chance alone.
I was an agnostic until 1995, and I was in first year of chiropractic college studying biochemistry, under a teacher who is an atheist, when I came to this conclusion. If you are geared towards math and science like me, this is mathematical proof of a creators or rather gods existence
Neuro
12th June 2018, 08:04 AM
God can’t of course be another complex life form (alternative creator), since it created life.
Horn
12th June 2018, 08:08 AM
what if evolution is a method (not "the" method, but a method) that God uses to direct the development of humanity?
That would also imply a missing link in communication feedback loop.
And answer the immediate question, Why all prayers should go unanswered, no matter what their value.
The law of demand and your law of prices dictates that this type of God is not wanted or even desired.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX8YsJ0TbMc
Horn
12th June 2018, 08:41 AM
I do believe the question is an important one for knowing another conscious human being and that is all.
So much so, that any who claim to know the answer crucified with only the proper amount remorse.
We won't get into what I judge to be a proper amount.
ziero0
12th June 2018, 08:46 AM
You obviously is the premise of error in the above question.
Time itself has not been given any wait in your equation.
Please join your fellow scientific weigh rite Orthodox Saturnites in calling him soloperroano.
Huh?
Sensing no disagreement I believe you are in complete agreement.
Horn
12th June 2018, 08:53 AM
Huh?
Sensing no disagreement I believe you are in complete agreement.
Good God, did anyone ever tell you what a torturous Polar Bear you are, solo perro ano?!
Its as IF, I pay you with my pinky finger and you delight at claiming the entire right arm!!
ziero0
12th June 2018, 09:30 AM
you delight at claiming the entire right arm!!
Are you asking for address to ship your arm to?
Bigjon
12th June 2018, 09:34 AM
Let me know when you are prepared to have an adult discussion on the subject.
I'll never be ready for that.
I'll let Jordan explain it to you.
Take your pick, I'm not intelligent enough to chose for you.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Jordan+B+Peterson+logos&t=opera&ia=videos
Horn
12th June 2018, 09:45 AM
Are you asking for address to ship your arm to?
If you've got 15% tariff first, I hate competitors to my sovreignadiginity, myopy.
Its the cyclopitic Neanderthal in me, made of steel.
Horn
12th June 2018, 10:03 AM
This what happens when you add an instance or any time to a God equation or question,
and my reason for crucifixion of many men. Even Palani deserves his fair share of.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkuAcgAZkn8
Horn
12th June 2018, 06:28 PM
But what does this have to do with Saturn transmitting a frequency of Satan?
According to information monitored by the Cassini spacecraft, Saturn is a source of 'intense radio transmissions.' These transmissions have rising and falling tones, which are interestingly like Earth’s radio transmissions. The rings of Saturn, according to David Icke, are “a massive broadcast system, broadcasting a fake reality.” Not only can we hear this frequency, but we are decoding it, and thus, living in it. In plain speak, we have been hacked into this fake reality. Icke believes that there are invisible frequency bands being emitted from Saturn’s rings that can induce a virtual reality experience – he refers to this as the Saturn Moon matrix. We are assimilating this fake reality right down to our DNA. DNA holds all the information we will ever need to build and maintain the human body. Researchers at Boston University and Harvard Medical School studied the 98 percent of our DNA that remains unable to be decoded and is thus called 'trash' DNA. They found that in that percentage, "Non-decoded DNA sequences do contain a structured language fundamentally unlike the coding in genes…We, therefore, need to consider the possibility that the junk DNA may carry some kind of message”says Head Researcher Eugene Stanley.
https://www.motmag.com/new-blog/2017/8/5/the-rings-around-saturn-the-subliminal-frequency-of-satan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTkoYWLdvU4
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