Immigration and Libertarianism

[Down1]

The cultural Marxists know this, and that is the reason why they adopted the very same victimology. The left-libertarians do apparently not know this and are thus the cultural Marxists’ useful idiots on their march toward totalitarian social control.
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/07/hans-hermann-hoppe/immigration-and-libertarianism/

[Bigjon]

I consider myself to be a Libertarian. As in almost no government and for sure no gov handouts, bailouts or any other kind of welfare crap.

Come here fine, make sure you pay your own way and are a productive member of society.

Don't confuse communism with libertarianism.

[hoarder]

Jews run the Libertarian party just like all others. Most of the Libertarian "great thinkers" are Jews, making sure the temporary freedom they offer us is compatible with one world government and race mixing.

[Horn]

Jews run the Libertarian party just like all others. Most of the Libertarian "great thinkers" are Jews, making sure the temporary freedom they offer us is compatible with one world government and race mixing.

Libertarian and party should not exist in the same sentence for all intent purposes.

Hence its failure to produce in a U.S. partisan communistic type political system.

When any Repug. points out that Libertarians are for open borders, I think they miss the part about not many Marxists wanting at all to live near any Libertarians.

Mexicans simply would not show up for Libertarians.

[Bigjon]

Jews run the Libertarian party just like all others. Most of the Libertarian "great thinkers" are Jews, making sure the temporary freedom they offer us is compatible with one world government and race mixing.

OK, what is your idea of an alternative to the form of communism we now have?

You take pot shots, but offer no positive alternative.

[hoarder]

OK, what is your idea of an alternative to the form of communism we now have?

You take pot shots, but offer no positive alternative.Just because they have left us with no alternative doesn't meant it ain't so. Ideologies are weapons. Why would they allow us to have any? Sure the Republican and Libertarian parties are better than Democrats, but they are only the lesser of evils and also must be weighed with the complacency that goes with them.
If you're looking for political parties to solve our problems, you're not focused on the problems.

Suppose we had a Libertarian POTUS..... the only Libertarian inroads he would accomplish is opening our borders wider and more permanently to third world people and products.

edit: I used to be a card-carrying member of the Texas Libertarian Party.

[Bigjon]

Just because they have left us with no alternative doesn't meant it ain't so. Ideologies are weapons. Why would they allow us to have any? Sure the Republican and Libertarian parties are better than Democrats, but they are only the lesser of evils and also must be weighed with the complacency that goes with them.
If you're looking for political parties to solve our problems, you're not focused on the problems.

Suppose we had a Libertarian POTUS..... the only Libertarian inroads he would accomplish is opening our borders wider and more permanently to third world people and products.

edit: I used to be a card-carrying member of the Texas Libertarian Party.

How would those third worlders support themselves?
True libertarianism has no welfare system. It is a pay your own way system.

You seem to want blame all these communist inspired ideologies on libertarianism when it just is not so.

I think you are confused.

[Horn]

While Libertarianism may be an ideal. Libertarians themselves should be free or not to associate with it.

I do believe if it were a world full of Libertarians, natural segregation and integration would be the result.

Or if there are limits and low interest in guarding any national border, you guard your own selfborder of the nation yours belong.

[hoarder]

How would those third worlders support themselves?
True libertarianism has no welfare system. It is a pay your own way system.

You seem to want blame all these communist inspired ideologies on libertarianism when it just is not so.

I think you are confused.When a Democrat POTUS is in power, does he change everything to an absolute Democratic Party system? When a Republican is in power, does he change everything back to an absolute Republican Party system? Of course not. They each change a few small things, talk a lot of party rhetoric, but do very little that inconveniences the ruling class. Why would you think it would be any different for Libertarians? Why do you think a Libertarian POTUS would end welfare?

Besides, even if there were no welfare, the third worlders would still move to first world countries if they could so that they could escape prosecution, have better paying jobs and be with their relatives and have lots of babies while waiting for the next election so they could get welfare back.

.....and the borders would be wide ass open thanks to the Libertarian.

[Bigjon]

When a Democrat POTUS is in power, does he change everything to an absolute Democratic Party system? When a Republican is in power, does he change everything back to an absolute Republican Party system? Of course not. They each change a few small things, talk a lot of party rhetoric, but do very little that inconveniences the ruling class. Why would you think it would be any different for Libertarians? Why do you think a Libertarian POTUS would end welfare?

Besides, even if there were no welfare, the third worlders would still move to first world countries if they could so that they could escape prosecution, have better paying jobs and be with their relatives and have lots of babies while waiting for the next election so they could get welfare back.


.....and the borders would be wide ass open thanks to the Libertarian.


Good points, I guess I'm confused.

I was never aware that it was a libertarian position to open our borders to all comers. The point about having a libertarian society is to keep it that way that society has to be kept a closed society.

[hoarder]

Good points, I guess I'm confused.

I was never aware that it was a libertarian position to open our borders to all comers. The point about having a libertarian society is to keep it that way that society has to be kept a closed society.Yes, open borders are "freedom". Also take note that whenever they give examples they never mention groups, tribes, secret societies or races...it's allways "individual liberties".

[Horn]

Besides, even if there were no welfare, the third worlders would still move to first world countries if they could so that they could escape prosecution, have better paying jobs and be with their relatives and have lots of babies while waiting for the next election so they could get welfare back.

I challenge that statement, its the limited protective Police State, that affords easy/peace of mind for indigenous folks to permit migration by lower classes.

A jew may start a ball rolling, but indigenous peoples live and perish from state protective services.

"I do not need to worry only or for myself and kin my state has it covered"

Liberty - freedom from the state is the only ideal.Without the guardian state there would be no exiles.

All ofcourse unless your definition of 1st world is a police state, which may be your case. If such then no choice.

[ziero0]

indigenous peoples live and perish from state protective services

In this context an interesting movie is Interstate 60 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_60_(film). In the Kurt Russell section he plays the police chief of a small town where residents make the choice of becoming addicted to an ecstasy type drug or leaving. The context is not drugs so much as welfare state. You either choose it or you don't. If you do then the rest of your life you live H.A.P.P.Y.!!!