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Cebu_4_2
7th August 2018, 03:37 PM
NY bill mandates 3 months paid bereavement leave, even when grandparents die

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/06/ny-bill-mandates-3-months-paid-bereavement-leave-even-for-grandparents.html

New York lawmakers have approved a bill that would give employees in the Empire State three months paid bereavement leave to mourn the loss of a loved one – in turn, spurring concerns among business owners that the policy would create a staffing crisis.

The expansive bill would cover the death of a spouse, domestic partner, child, parent, in-law, grandparent or grandchild. It was passed by the state Senate and Assembly at the end of the legislative session in June and now awaits the signature of Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo.

The state’s current Paid Family Leave law gives employees paid time off to bond with a new child or care for a sick relative. But the new legislation significantly expands leave policies, allowing grieving employees to collect 50 to 67 percent of the average weekly wage for up to 12 weeks.

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Funke and the bill’s cosponsor, Assembly Majority Leader Joseph Morelle, a Democrat from Rochester, have both lost adult children.

Business owners and groups representing their interests, though, contend that the change would put an unnecessary strain on their companies.

“For a small business, I don’t know how anybody could survive with anything like that,” Tom Grech, president of the Queens Chamber of Commerce, told the New York Post. “At the end of the day, New York City and New York state are among the most expensive places to do business in the country. This just puts another burden on small businesses.”

The Business Council of New York State also opposes the paid bereavement.

“Who this really affects are the small employers who are being hit with another burden that’s difficult to manage,” group spokesman Zach Hutchins told the newspaper.


Cuomo supported the Paid Family Leave policy that starting this year gives paid time off to new parents, people caring for a loved one with a serious health condition and those facing family pressures when a loved one is called to active military service abroad.

A spokeswoman for Cuomo, Dani Lever, said they plan to review the bereavement leave bill.

midnight rambler
7th August 2018, 03:40 PM
More evidence the Demonrats are living in Lala Land.

osoab
7th August 2018, 04:32 PM
More evidence the Demonrats are living in Lala Land.

It ain't their money. It's easy to tell and mandate others what they should do with what they have.

midnight rambler
7th August 2018, 04:33 PM
It ain't their money. It's easy to tell and mandate others what they should do with what they have.

Demonrats doing what they do best - telling others how to live their lives.

Cebu_4_2
7th August 2018, 05:25 PM
I see a lot more small companies closing just like when Obamacare was implemented.

woodman
7th August 2018, 05:45 PM
Personally, I hope they pass this law. It is insane. How could any business possibly make a profit or even stay afloat? Boiling the frog? I think not. The frog will jump right out of the water with this type of legislation and go apeshit.

Cebu_4_2
7th August 2018, 08:35 PM
Might just instantly turn into Detroit or Chicago.

madfranks
8th August 2018, 07:09 AM
I see a lot more small companies closing just like when Obamacare was implemented.Me too. Imagine a small, like really small business, maybe 3 or 4 employees. If one of them takes off for 3 months, you just lost 25-33% of your work force, and you still have to pay them? I can't imagine many businesses being able to do this.

Cebu_4_2
8th August 2018, 04:12 PM
Me too. Imagine a small, like really small business, maybe 3 or 4 employees. If one of them takes off for 3 months, you just lost 25-33% of your work force, and you still have to pay them? I can't imagine many businesses being able to do this.

Pay them AND have to hire a temp replacement. I've run a small company for 35 years, this would not be sustainable. One person had jury duty for 2 weeks and I was fizzing out. I wonder what the law says about terminating them.

I like when they try to fight it, I write a letter to unemployment saying they quit and they were a very valuable employee that takes a year to train and want them back. You know, they can clean the inside of the dumpster or sweep the roof in summer... And of course they come back to minimum wage as an added bonus! Have not had a single unemployment claim.

osoab
8th August 2018, 06:48 PM
Me too. Imagine a small, like really small business, maybe 3 or 4 employees. If one of them takes off for 3 months, you just lost 25-33% of your work force, and you still have to pay them? I can't imagine many businesses being able to do this.

But it will only be at 65% of their pay. It's only fair. /s

Why wouldn't most take advantage of this? This is an extended paid vacation. Heck, time it with your standard vacation and just enjoy life for a longer while. /s

Seriously though, this all but law would be the end of small business up to 200-500 employees. It will be used and abused extensively. Employee demographics and location would be a definite factor in the level of abuse.

I see the vacations even more probable for .gov employees. They even added in the article that the two sponsors both lost adult children.


Funke and the bill’s cosponsor, Assembly Majority Leader Joseph Morelle, a Democrat from Rochester, have both lost adult children.

woodman
8th August 2018, 07:06 PM
But it will only be at 65% of their pay. It's only fair. /s

Why wouldn't most take advantage of this? This is an extended paid vacation. Heck, time it with your standard vacation and just enjoy life for a longer while. /s

Seriously though, this all but law would be the end of small business up to 200-500 employees. It will be used and abused extensively. Employee demographics and location would be a definite factor in the level of abuse.

I see the vacations even more probable for .gov employees. They even added in the article that the two sponsors both lost adult children.
I can envision hated relatives being offed simply to garner a decent vacation. It's a win win!

madfranks
8th August 2018, 09:20 PM
I can envision hated relatives being offed simply to garner a decent vacation. It's a win win!
And who, exactly, verifies that the claimed deceased is actually deceased? What if the boss asks for proof that the alleged family member actually died, and died recently? What if an employee makes it up and refuses to give the boss all the details because it’s a very personal issue?

Ares
9th August 2018, 05:34 AM
Deleted Hitch and Cebu's post. Take it to the Thunderdome. Either one of you personally attack the other you're getting a 3 day ban.