Florida man who invoked 'stand your ground' after fatally shooting a black man over a [Archive]

Cebu_4_2

13th August 2018, 02:39 PM

Florida man who invoked 'stand your ground' after fatally shooting a black man over a parking dispute is charged with manslaughter

Michael Drejka, 47, was arrested on Monday over the shooting death of 28-year-old Markeis McGlockton in Clearwater, Florida on July 19
Drejka was charged with manslaughter after the State Attorney decided to pursue charges
Pinellas County Sheriff's Office had initially declined to arrest Drejka because of the state's controversial 'stand your ground' law
McGlockton was shot dead by Drejka outside a store following a dispute about a disabled parking spot
McGlockton had shoved Drejka to the ground before Drejka then pulled out his handgun and fired

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6056167/Florida-man-charged-stand-ground-shooting.html

midnight rambler

13th August 2018, 02:46 PM

Shooter was looking for trouble; he was successful.

Dogman

13th August 2018, 02:51 PM

Shooter was looking for trouble; he was successful. Yup !

He will probably be convicted for the murder it was. The evidence is all in the tape/video.

Down1

13th August 2018, 04:21 PM

More Negro appeasement

JDRock

13th August 2018, 07:03 PM

He Dindu nuffins

Cebu_4_2

13th August 2018, 09:09 PM

The shooter antagonized the situation. The father blasted him a body slam. The antagonizer did this at least 3 times to others. He was looking for a fight. He is guilty of murder just due to the fact he was looking for it.

The dude that slammed him slammed him hard, hard enough to produce much physical damage.

Shooter took 5-10 seconds to aim the gun. Was it to be on track or to make sure he didn't fuck anyone else up?

Shooter got what he wanted, a clear shot after many attempts.

dude should be electrocuted slow motion. No jury, no bullshit.

He did have an altercation tho, that dude was not going to stop fucking with him. only backed away after he saw a gun.

Tumbleweed

14th August 2018, 03:23 AM

That nigger had it coming to him for assaulting the white guy and a lot more of them should get the same treatment when they attack someone.

Tumbleweed

14th August 2018, 06:06 AM

cheka.

14th August 2018, 07:19 AM

I'm going to add to what I said above because that was a violent attack by the nigger and it could have been life threatening if the guy he attacked had hit his head on the pavement. I saw a guy get in a wreck riding a horse and roping a steer one time. He came off the horse and hit his head on the ground. His brain swelled and he was dead a short time later.

I've seen countless videos of them kicking people when they're down -- brain damage, deaths, etc. also seen countless videos of them attacking, pausing, and attacking again....and again...and again

shooter was right. attacker was wrong. claiming shooter is wrong is a stretch -- it's based on the assumption that the attacker had finished his attack. there is no evidence of that. there is evidence of a violent assault. that is all.

midnight rambler

14th August 2018, 07:38 AM

Camp Bassfish

14th August 2018, 07:50 AM

Well, regardless whether the nigger needed to be stopped from attacking further the point is that if this guy hadn't put himself in the position of being parking enforcement on a property he had NO business doing so on then he wouldn't be facing manslaughter charges now. While many of us may consider this a good shoot the aftermath is still a motherfucker. He was definitely looking to get into trouble and that's where he found himself.

"A man is responsible for the thoughts he chooses to entertain." --Richard Alan Miller

Anyone who is responsible and heeled should seek to AVOID having to shoot some two-legged varmint UNLESS absolutely necessary. (The law of necessity is that 'there is no law'.)

Exactly... I'm sure the argument is going to be that the boyfriend was invoking his girlfriends right to stand your ground. They will say the she was in fear for her life from inside her vehicle when the shooter verbally confronted her.... I was always taught to never pull a gun that you're not about to use...but in this case I MIGHT have pulled it just to get my point across and prevent further attack.... the pause to take dead aim was enough to get the attacker to turn away... That's going to be the shooters downfall.

Dogman

14th August 2018, 08:01 AM

Well, regardless whether the nigger needed to be stopped from attacking further the point is that if this guy hadn't put himself in the position of being parking enforcement on a property he had NO business doing so on then he wouldn't be facing manslaughter charges now. While many of us may consider this a good shoot the aftermath is still a motherfucker. He was definitely looking to get into trouble and that's where he found himself.

"A man is responsible for the thoughts he chooses to entertain." --Richard Alan Miller

Anyone who is responsible and heeled should seek to AVOID having to shoot some two-legged varmint UNLESS absolutely necessary. (The law of necessity is that 'there is no law'.) Agree!

Exactly... I'm sure the argument is going to be that the boyfriend was invoking his girlfriends right to stand you ground. They will say the she was in fear for her life from inside her vehicle when then shooter verbally confronted her.... I was always taught to never pull a gun that you're not about to use...but in this case I MIGHT have pulled it just to get my point across and prevent further attack.... the pause to take dead aim was enough to get the attacker to turn away... That's going to be the shooters downfall. Yep ! Exactly, the video shows it all, murder. (Plus his history that is still being revealed) (shooter) the vid shows it all, if he pulled the gun and fired immediately, different story. But he took his time, and the guy was not advancing, but turning away= doom for him.

Aries u still got me wrong.

Peace

cheka.

14th August 2018, 08:11 AM

the guy that was attacked was blacking out from the impacts of the assault and of his body hitting the ground.

stop the attack or die getting kicked in the head (like so many before him). that demo LOVES to beat/kick people that are down/out.

insert any of the thousands of documented videos here: {--->){--->){--->)

Horn

14th August 2018, 10:20 AM

looks like a man was slaughtered to me.

cheka.

14th August 2018, 11:35 AM

you guys that say it was murder -- what sentence would you give him? would you actually throw him in prison for shooting a worthless thug that was attacking him? if so, how long?

Neuro

14th August 2018, 01:04 PM

So he had arguments three times prior with people who had parked at the handicap spot. Any evidence that he actually physically attacked anyone before? If he had no history of never before having argued with assholes about parking in the handicap spot would that then make it a better “stand your ground” case?

Arguing with assholes isn’t a crime. Pushing someone violently to the ground is.

Tumbleweed

14th August 2018, 04:04 PM

Maybe all nigger bucks and their Ho's need to be given handicap license plates so they won't be getting killed going to the stowe.

Horn

14th August 2018, 04:20 PM

Arguing with assholes isn’t a crime. Pushing someone violently to the ground is.

The now dead offender did not "push", but bodyslam/fall.

He were smart enough at that time to make it appear (or have an excuse) that he stumbled/tripped into his future executioner.

no so smart anymore, eitherway initial force was not enough to equate the response.

the body slamming would've had to be continuing or flight to life been compromised, it was not.

Cebu_4_2

14th August 2018, 06:45 PM

The now dead offender did not "push", but bodyslam/fall.

He were smart enough at that time to make it appear (or have an excuse) that he stumbled/tripped into his future executioner.

no so smart anymore, eitherway initial force was not enough to equate the response.

the body slamming would've had to be continuing or flight to life been compromised, it was not.

The loser of this game had his hands in his pockets appearing to not be a threat until he totally body slammed the shooter, otherwise shooter would have most likely backed off and possibly pulled the gun if the loser continued. Loser also did not start backing up until he saw the gun, which could have been the end of it. He appeared he was going to continue attacking but then the gun came out. The shooter did not have to shoot at that point but if he didn't pull the gun he also could have been kicked in the head to death. His few second pause as the loser backed away was where he fucked up.

His priors with provoking trouble will not end well in his trial.

I see total failure on both sides.

With no gun the loser would be charged with murder / attempted murder.

Shooter is a provoking asshat that really had no business saying a thing unless there were no other spots to park AND he was handicapped or a family member with him.

Period case closed, this will have to play out in court.

I see 100% wrong on both sides.

cheka.

14th August 2018, 08:27 PM

the alleged victim's criminal record is so long that they just listed some of it -- i do appreciate them including the aggravated battery in their partial list. shooter did society a favor

http://www.fox13news.com/news/local-news/backlash-continues-following-stand-your-ground-shooting

McGlockton’s criminal record includes drug charges, petit theft, and an aggravated battery arrest

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let's look at some more of it's work

https://www.pcsoweb.com/InmateBooking/SubjectResults.aspx?id=1309676

AGGRAVATED BATTERY DOMESTIC (felony)

RESISTING ARREST W/VIOLENCE

DISORDERLY CONDUCT

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more pieces to it's history

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/fl-markeis-mcglockton-shot-and-killed-in-front-of-family-clearwater-july-2018.381656/page-10

MM has several convictions:

POSSESSION OF MARIJUANA
POSSESSION OF COCAINE
POSSESSION OF COCAINE
RESISTING AN OFFICER WITH VIOLENCE

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Cebu_4_2

14th August 2018, 08:45 PM

Shooter still an asshat.

cheka.

14th August 2018, 08:47 PM

lmao! and his brother/sister are his equals in crime -- ho li fuk

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cheka.

14th August 2018, 08:49 PM

Shooter still an asshat.

justice for trayvon! niggers should be able to commit battery without victim defending himself

burn that mutha fucka down

Horn

14th August 2018, 08:51 PM

in any case he were clearly not "standing his ground" obviously bruising his ass on the ground.

had he taken the time to stand back up the law may have applied better.

Cebu_4_2

14th August 2018, 09:01 PM

This is a fukt case all the way around. The nigger needed shooting but the shooter didn't need to shoot.

I guess the shooter will do time manslaughter cause he didn't need to shoot.

The thug got what he needed.

50/50 case here. I don't like niggers and I don't like asshole crackers with guns.

I bet the shooter gets some time so there isn't some 'Protest" and then gets let off. He deserves to be held for manslaughter IMO.

cheka.

14th August 2018, 09:05 PM

very active discussion here: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/179573058/

Horn

14th August 2018, 09:06 PM

This is a fukt case all the way around. (deleted N word for future presidency possibility)

The thug got what he needed..

CNN had a spot where the initial offender were the one to "stand his ground" due to harassment, it was convincing enough.

cheka.

14th August 2018, 09:09 PM

i might go to walmart more often if i had that shooter with me

maybe trump will start a 'go fund me' for the shooter. he did promise law and order :)&

shooter saved a lot more victims from the WELL established unemployed violent criminal/leech

cheka.

14th August 2018, 09:11 PM

CNN had a spot where the initial offender were the one to "stand his ground" due to harassment, it was convincing enough.

i have the same feeling about niggers parking in the handicap spaces -- it's pervasive in the hellhole they call houston. niggers parked in hc, niggers committed battery -- finally somebody called them on their bullshit - ripped the nigger bitch for the hc, killed the nigger buck after it attacked him. shooter is a hero

how else will we get them to stop killing/raping/assaulting the humans? midnight basketball? more free shit?

Horn

14th August 2018, 09:18 PM

i have the same feeling about niggers parking in the handicap spaces -- it's pervasive in the hellhole they call houston. niggers parked in hc, niggers committed battery -- finally somebody called them on their bullshit - ripped the nigger bitch for the hc, killed the nigger buck after it attacked him. shooter is a hero

how else will we get them to stop killing/raping/assaulting the humans? midnight basketball? more free shit?

That's the gentrified CNN conspiracy, trying to turn persons of color into white Europeans.

Genocidal, call it whatever Black Lives Matter.

Dog calling Trump same thing, he claims the dog connotation as he is our first ever person of color, black president.

midnight rambler

14th August 2018, 09:48 PM

Nothing new here, just a nigger noggin'.

lmao! and his brother/sister are his equals in crime -- ho li fuk

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OPERATING VEHICLE W/OUT INSUR

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DRIVING UNREGISTER VEHICLE *NCTC 101811 @830A

POSSESSION OF MARIJUANA

SALE OR DELIVERY OF COCAINE

POSSESSION OF COCAINE

POSSESSION OF COCAINE

RESISTING AN OFFICER WITH VIOLENCE

AGGRAVATED BATTERY DOMESTIC

DISORDERLY CONDUCT

SALE OF COUNTERFEIT DRUG

FELONY FLEEING & ELUDING

VIOLATION OF RESTRICTION FOR

MPROPER EQUIPMENT/MOTORCYCLE

FAIL/LV/INFO/UNATTENDED VEHIC

VIOLATION OF RESTRICTION FOR

MPROPER EQUIPMENT/MOTORCYCLE

FELONY FLEEING & ELUDING

FTA LEAVE SCENE OF ACC W/UNATTENDED PROP

midnight rambler

14th August 2018, 09:50 PM

SALE OF COUNTERFEIT DRUG

Really? I had no idea there was such a thing. No one wants to see the crackheads get ripped off. Makes perfect sense. /s

midnight rambler

14th August 2018, 10:25 PM

Neuro

15th August 2018, 11:51 AM

What I want to know is: how many of you cheering on the shooter in this instance have ever actually shot at a violent nigger varmint with a bad attitude fully intending to kill it? I have, and I did my very best to dispatch it to Hell (just missed blowing his head clean off with 00 buck from a range of 7 yards, his head was definitely where the pattern impacted at some point). It would have been a totally justified shoot as he had grievously injured me and I was exsanguinating with less then 15 minutes before expiring due to loss of blood (spent 3 days in ICU). The sheriff expressed his disappointment that I failed to dispatch the violent nigger varmint to Hell.

So here's some perspective from someone who's been there, done that. The aftermath is always worse than the shooting. It is far better to disengage than to shoot UNLESS absolutely necessary to shoot.

ETA: I have zero sympathy for the shooter in this case. He was being stupid in a no stupid zone. He brought his troubles on himself with malice aforethought.

A pity you didn’t manage to take him out... What is he doing nowadays?

I don’t have much sympathy for the shooter either, in current framework he is somewhere within his right and not, and a court will decide whether he was (and I dont think he is very likely to get a fair hearing). In a different time he may have been heralded as a hero who took out a violent criminal nigger who had harassed his community for too long time. Now if he had shot him a second earlier he would have been within his right, but since he backed off he wasn’t now. However perhaps his physical shock of being attacked may excuse the delay?

Did he know his injuries at that point perfectly? Obviously you were way more injured when you were attacked, but where you fully aware of your injuries when you shot against the nigger that attacked you? Usually the injured party is the last to know the extent of his/her injuries compared to any bystanders. This man may even been thinking, in the heat of the moment, believed he had been stabbed.

Objectively it looks like the shooting was unjustified when he shot the perp, but in the mind of the brutally attacked? I think it is likely he seriously feared for his life, based on what happened to him just a few seconds prior.

Would he have been justified to complain about someone parking in the handicap zone if he was handicapped himself, or if someone in his family was, or a friend? Or are you never justified to complain about selfish niggers parking wherever they want, because it is a provocation to them?

midnight rambler

15th August 2018, 12:32 PM

What is he doing nowadays?

Taking a dirt nap.

where you fully aware of your injuries when you shot against the nigger that attacked you?

Oh yeah, I knew I was dying. It was extremely serious, about as serious as it gets. What kept me going was that I was extremely pissed off and determined to take him out on my way out.

Would he have been justified to complain about someone parking in the handicap zone if he was handicapped himself, or if someone in his family was, or a friend? Or are you never justified to complain about selfish niggers parking wherever they want, because it is a provocation to them?

No. He should have minded his own business for his own safety. When in pavement ape environment one must use discretion in everything one does. Don't poke sheboons with a stick and you won't have it's pavement ape partner attack you. Pretty simple actually, ANYONE who ventures into pavement ape environment SHOULD know this. This shooter was suffering from JPS syndrome (just plain stupid). Again, the shooter was looking for trouble and he got his wish.

Neuro

15th August 2018, 04:23 PM

Oh yeah, I knew I was dying. It was extremely serious, about as serious as it gets. What kept me going was that I was extremely pissed off and determined to take him out on my way out.

One reason I asked was that when I was 16 years old I had an accident where I fell down a cliff and broke my hip, wrist, jaw and 11 teeth. I fell about 15 ft. As far as I know I didn’t lose consciousness. But I came in a state of shock, had no pain at all. It was in the middle of the night in Austria at a ski-resort, and I was determined to continue home to the Hotel. Couldn’t support myself on my leg, so I ended up jumping backwards on one leg, until some good Samaritans saw me in my pityful state and helped me to a bar where they called an ambulance.

While waiting for the ambulance two American dudes came up and asked me who beat me up. I couldn’t really explain what had happened to me, but I knew I hadn’t been beaten up. But they were nagging me about it. And my body was full of Adrenalin from the trauma, so I stood up going to fight them because they annoyed me. Then came the ambulance and then I don’t remembered anything until I was in the hospital. Stayed there for 11 days until I was deemed fit enough to fly home, a pin in my hip, a cast around the wrist, and hadn’t been able to eat anything but fluids because of the broken teeth situation. The dentist discovered I had broken the jaw as well, when he started working on me and took a dental x-ray, but it was pretty much healed then.

My point is that the initial reaction to a trauma may differ a lot from case to case. In this case the nigger approaching
didn’t seem threatening at all. I doubt the man knew what hit him, his adrenaline hit the roof, just seeing the nigger coming at him again, he draws, the nigger backs. A professional may in that situation come to his senses, an untrained probably not. He shoots him because he doesn’t yet know if he is mortally injured or not.

I do agree with you that it is a very bad idea to approach these pavement apes at all, if you have any self preservation. But in a civilized society you should be able to argue with people who misbehaves or take advantage of privileges that don’t belong to them without fear of a physical attack. 50 years ago it was a certainty you could do that, and people did behave themselves. Perhaps the perp would come up with a half assed excuse, “sorry I didn’t see the sign”, or “my husband just ran into the store to get some spam, and our kid got colic, we’ll be on our way”. I guess we are already well into post-civilization by now.

Neuro

15th August 2018, 04:28 PM

Taking a dirt nap.

LOL Good! That’s usually what happens to these sooner or later anyway, but the sooner the better!

Horn

15th August 2018, 04:56 PM

I doubt the man knew what hit him.

Hence, manslaughter charges.

The strange annoying americans probably saved your life, Neuro.

woodman

15th August 2018, 05:19 PM

When I am carrying, I am specially careful not to engage in arguments. I mind my own business. I even drive more carefully.

Cebu_4_2

15th August 2018, 05:50 PM

When I am carrying, I am specially careful not to engage in arguments. I mind my own business. I even drive more carefully.

"An armed society is a polite society"

woodman

15th August 2018, 05:53 PM

"An armed society is a polite society"
Maybe this holds true for those with an intellect above the 'grass hut' level. Most people who initiate violence are not very intelligent and have never had an original thought in their life.

Neuro

15th August 2018, 06:14 PM

Hence, manslaughter charges.

The strange annoying americans probably saved your life, Neuro.

No it wasn’t them that took me to the bar where they called the ambulance. They only triggered me while I was sitting waiting for the ambulance covered in blood. Or do you mean I should be grateful to them that they didn’t shoot me, when I became aggressive to them?

Manslaughter charge is valid in states where they don’t have stand your ground legislation. But IF you have good enough reason to suspect that an attacker would kill or seriously injure you, using deadly force to defend you is permissable.

Neuro

15th August 2018, 06:21 PM

Maybe this holds true for those with an intellect above the 'grass hut' level. Most people who initiate violence are not very intelligent and have never had an original thought in their life.

Yes not every armed society is a polite society...
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Cebu_4_2

15th August 2018, 06:30 PM

No it wasn’t them that took me to the bar where they called the ambulance. They only triggered me while I was sitting waiting for the ambulance covered in blood. Or do you mean I should be grateful to them that they didn’t shoot me, when I became aggressive to them?

I think it's possible they kept your adrenaline going long enough that you didn't pass out and away. I heard of one guy working skeleton night shift got his arm chopped off. He walked all the way across the factory until he found another worker. As soon as the worker saw him he collapsed and was out, the worker tied his belt around the guys arm and then called for help. I think the injured guy would have kept walking until he found someone. Survival is an instinct and so is adrenaline to provide for survival. Note the black guy walked back to the store where he collapsed too. Then again his engine may have run out of oil by then so it's not a good example in this case.

Cebu_4_2

15th August 2018, 06:36 PM

Yes not every armed society is a polite society...
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That isn't a society, it's an army. WTF would they be shooting without gunpowder anyways?

Neuro

15th August 2018, 07:07 PM

I think it's possible they kept your adrenaline going long enough that you didn't pass out and away. I heard of one guy working skeleton night shift got his arm chopped off. He walked all the way across the factory until he found another worker. As soon as the worker saw him he collapsed and was out, the worker tied his belt around the guys arm and then called for help. I think the injured guy would have kept walking until he found someone. Survival is an instinct and so is adrenaline to provide for survival. Note the black guy walked back to the store where he collapsed too. Then again his engine may have run out of oil by then so it's not a good example in this case.

Possible, the injuries per se wasn’t life threatening, even though my jacket was destroyed with the cut in my chin and blood coming from my broken teeth, but blood loss wasn’t that much maybe a quarter pint or so. But the reason I got so irritated with them was that my adrenaline levels were already so high. If I hadn’t so much adrenaline in my brain already what they said wouldn’t have triggered me... it takes a lot for me to raise my fists, normally...

Cebu_4_2

15th August 2018, 07:51 PM

it takes a lot for me to raise my fists, normally...

Besides my 21 year old boy I haven't had to do anything in like 30 years, he stopped trying to be alpha with me.

With others A little push and shove and grab perhaps but no need to wrestle or fight. Most if not all I have to deal with realize it might not be in their best interest to fuck with me. I call it word kill. If that don't work I am more than ready to exercise, save me a trip to the exercise room.

Broken ribs not fight related except one time, heavy dude and I tripped him up and he landed on me. That did suck but adrenaline worked and I got the job done anyway.

Besides a few broken ribs multiple times I am good and those healed up good. The really weird thing is after the ribs healed they re-broke themselves 2 times in separate situations (without getting jacked up) for no reason at all. Same pain and everything but they healed quicker and there is no deformation of my stomach or back muscles. (A welcome anomaly). Like my body said fuk this shit, lets fix it right. I looked this stuff up for many many hours with no idea what happened. It just did.

ANyways, drinking and rambling. Hope you like the results of me reporting your post.

Neuro

15th August 2018, 08:34 PM

Besides my 21 year old boy I haven't had to do anything in like 30 years, he stopped trying to be alpha with me.

With others A little push and shove and grab perhaps but no need to wrestle or fight. Most if not all I have to deal with realize it might not be in their best interest to fuck with me. I call it word kill. If that don't work I am more than ready to exercise, save me a trip to the exercise room.

Broken ribs not fight related except one time, heavy dude and I tripped him up and he landed on me. That did suck but adrenaline worked and I got the job done anyway.

Besides a few broken ribs multiple times I am good and those healed up good. The really weird thing is after the ribs healed they re-broke themselves 2 times in separate situations (without getting jacked up) for no reason at all. Same pain and everything but they healed quicker and there is no deformation of my stomach or back muscles. (A welcome anomaly). Like my body said fuk this shit, lets fix it right. I looked this stuff up for many many hours with no idea what happened. It just did.

ANyways, drinking and rambling. Hope you like the results of me reporting your post.
We’ll see if the messages reaches our beloved lord. They reached me anyway...

Horn

16th August 2018, 12:33 AM

No it wasn’t them that took me to the bar where they called the ambulance. They only triggered me while I was sitting waiting for the ambulance covered in blood. Or do you mean I should be grateful to them that they didn’t shoot me, when I became aggressive to them?

Manslaughter charge is valid in states where they don’t have stand your ground legislation. But IF you have good enough reason to suspect that an attacker would kill or seriously injure you, using deadly force to defend you is permissable.

Had you not gotten pissed off at them, your heart may have accidentally stopped, God sends Americans many places cause they are great again and again.

And reason was explained away by you at the last post by disorientation, its manslaughter or accidental death. That he were made disoriented really has nothing to do with his actions in the eyeball of the law.

Neuro

16th August 2018, 02:31 AM

Had you not gotten pissed off at them, your heart may have accidentally stopped, God sends Americans many places cause they are great again and again.

And reason was explained away by you at the last post by disorientation, its manslaughter or accidental death. That he were made disoriented really has nothing to do with his actions in the eyeball of the law.

Aha I see what you mean there you think I suggested that he didn’t know that the blow of whatever came from the nigger. I think he well knew that that the blow came from the nigger, but I think in the moment he didn’t know what kind of blow he had received. He could have been violently struck, or stabbed or even shot, from the eyes of the victim. The last two may have meant he was already mortally or seriously injured. And he has at that time stand your ground right to shoot the assailant. In the first hypothetical instance (which is that he was struck, which he was), even if it is obvious he isn’t mortally or seriously injured, he still have the right to defend himself as long he has reason to believe he may be at risk to be injured by the aggressor.

But if he didn’t know that the man who attacked him was the attacker, yes I agree it would be manslaughter or accidental killing if he shot him. It could even be pre-meditated murder if he shot him because he was a nigger, not because he thought he was the attacker, for instance.

Neuro

16th August 2018, 05:46 AM

That isn't a society, it's an army. WTF would they be shooting without gunpowder anyways?

True, I admit I googled “child soldiers” and photos like these came out... I didn’t see any pics of white child soldiers though. I guess white societies are polite societies...

Horn

16th August 2018, 09:40 AM

Horn

16th August 2018, 09:47 AM

When I am carrying, I am specially careful not to engage in arguments. I mind my own business. I even drive more carefully.

It is possible that they had prior involvement with each other and the triggerman knew that reaction would be forthcoming.

Cebu_4_2

16th August 2018, 12:16 PM

When is the court date?

Horn

16th August 2018, 03:11 PM

When is the court date?

Somewhen after they revoke his firearm permit, take away half his pension, place him on house arrest only to work on Amazon or until Trump gets finished chopping it down to a manageable sized government monopoly.

Neuro

16th August 2018, 03:41 PM

It would be an interesting case if Florida seeks the difference between voluntary or involuntary, added the disorientation.

I doubt the defense would step anywhere near it though or if it makes any difference in sentencing with Florida.

https://theydiffer.com/difference-between-voluntary-and-involuntary-manslaughter/

And then you have ”stand your ground” as well. I am pretty sure the man and his defense lawyer will keep arguing his case around that argument. I guess if the court doesn’t buy that argument it would be a case of voluntary manslaughter, as his intent when shooting his attacker couldn’t really be interpreted much differently. However as I have pointed out in this thread there are plenty of points that would support his “stand your ground” case.

If you are not allowed to “stand your ground” after having been brutally attacked, when are you? The fact that he has a history to complain about parkings is actually irrelevant, unless prosecutors can find witnesses that supports the notion that he did this to provoke a violent confrontation. Essentially he or a witness should confess to this was his goal.

Horn

17th August 2018, 02:41 PM

If you are not allowed to “stand your ground” after having been brutally attacked, when are you?

before,

I'm not sure a defense lawyer could argue the case with stand your ground stipulation or if he did he would lose.

I have not read the law, but from the video - standing ground would need to be established and then encroached upon after gun is unholstered or made visible/known to the assailant. "I have a gun right here, don't come any closer"

is not the case here based on evidence that his standing ground were encroached upon. if disoriented and unable to know (any closer or his ground) well than its manslaughter.

Cebu_4_2

17th August 2018, 03:08 PM

I think he will be made into an example of what not to do.

cheka.

17th August 2018, 09:27 PM

do we want a society where you are jailed/bilked for shooting a criminal thug that has attacked you and has you down on the ground?

or do we want one where it is no-fault to shoot it? what does the constitution say? does it say nigger can beat you to death before you have your enumerated right to defend?

how many times did he shoot it? once? more evidence of just stopping the attack

Cebu_4_2

17th August 2018, 09:37 PM

Watch the video and how the televits is going to portray it... Going to be just that little part where he hesitates to shoot, over and over.

cheka.

17th August 2018, 09:49 PM

Watch the video and how the televits is going to portray it... Going to be just that little part where he hesitates to shoot, over and over.

when one has been slammed to the ground, it is reasonable to conclude that one is under attack. what more proof do you need? IT JUST ATTACKED....WITH VIDEO PROOF. ridiculous to claim that the victim should think/know that it isn't under attack

Horn

18th August 2018, 12:09 AM

ridiculous to claim that the victim should think/know that it isn't under attack

ignorance when pulling a trigger won't bode well with any jury.

Police often find themselves in similar situations but have immunity license, I certainly do not want to live in a society full of police.

Both men were policing in this video, neither had an immunity license

Neuro

18th August 2018, 01:58 AM

Down1

24th August 2019, 05:50 PM

Guilty.

Jury finds Michael Drejka guilty of manslaughter in "stand your ground" case

Updated on: August 24, 2019 / 1:27 PM / CBS/AP

A white Florida man was found guilty of manslaughter Friday for the July 2018 shooting death of an unarmed black man, CBS St. Petersburg affiliate WTSP reported. Michael Drejka claimed he acted in self-defense in the dispute over a handicapped-accessible parking spot at a Clearwater convenience store.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida-stand-your-ground-case-michael-drejka-verdict-jury-finds-man-guilty-of-manslaughter-2019-08-23/

Neuro

25th August 2019, 04:03 AM

Guilty.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida-stand-your-ground-case-michael-drejka-verdict-jury-finds-man-guilty-of-manslaughter-2019-08-23/

I guess not terribly surprising...

Cebu_4_2

25th August 2019, 07:08 AM

Instigating an attack, got the attack, then fired. He apparently didn't understand the rules. 3rd grade d- student.

Neuro

25th August 2019, 12:08 PM

Instigating an attack, got the attack, then fired. He apparently didn't understand the rules. 3rd grade d- student.

I drove around for two weeks in the US this summer. I never parked in a handicap parking square. I don’t see how complaining about someone not showing basic courtesy is instigating an attack.

Neuro

25th August 2019, 12:46 PM

Guilty.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida-stand-your-ground-case-michael-drejka-verdict-jury-finds-man-guilty-of-manslaughter-2019-08-23/

LOL, just looked at the video. “Justice for the family” a sheboon claimed. He was right to violently assault a man complaining to his girlfriend about parking in the handicap spot, and he didn’t have any right to defend himself.

I hope he appeals and wins.

hoarder

25th August 2019, 01:10 PM

Both parties are in the wrong. Only an asshole with authoritarian personality disorder would pack heat and then go around policing the public. A rational person would realize that forcing businesses to provide dedicated disabled parking spaces is unjust in the first place. If the shooter was not carrying he would not have been so brazen.

midnight rambler

25th August 2019, 01:18 PM

As I posted earlier in this thread, the shooter was out looking for trouble where he could use his handgun and ultimately he found it. When heeled deescalation is the name of the game.

Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

Jewboo

25th August 2019, 03:53 PM

A rational person would realize that forcing businesses to provide dedicated disabled parking spaces is unjust in the first place.

A "rational" WHITE man would not be within ten miles of these niggers. Irrelevant that these niggers parked in the convenience store federally-protected gimp parking space.

:rolleyes:

hoarder

25th August 2019, 05:00 PM

Back in the 70's I worked with a guy who had authoritarian personality disorder. He was a part time fireman. One day he showed up with a black eye. He saw a negro park in front of a fire hydrant and commenced to give him his authoritarian spiel. I didn't like negroes back then, but I didn't feel sorry for the asshole...as a matter of fact I laughed inside when I heard about it. Don't jab a hyena with a stick unless you have to.

Jewboo

25th August 2019, 06:06 PM

authoritarian personality disorder

I have a degree in (((Psychology))). This is a label that jews invented to denigrate all Fathers in decent Christian Families (https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51ev%2Bb9302L._SY445_.jpg).

:rolleyes:

hoarder

25th August 2019, 09:03 PM

I have a degree in (((Psychology))). This is a label that jews invented to denigrate all Fathers in decent Christian Families (https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51ev%2Bb9302L._SY445_.jpg).

:rolleyes:They never use it to describe cops. That's who it belongs to, IMO.

Neuro

26th August 2019, 01:19 AM

Both parties are in the wrong. Only an asshole with authoritarian personality disorder would pack heat and then go around policing the public. Sure he may be that. Should it matter in this case?

A rational person would realize that forcing businesses to provide dedicated disabled parking spaces is unjust in the first place.
The niggers were not freedom fighters. It is rude, illegal and inconsiderate to park in the handicap spot. In a rational society these types of behaviors are dealt with. Do you park in the handicap space?

If the shooter was not carrying he would not have been so brazen. So if you’re carrying a gun you have no right to complain? If he hadn’t been carrying the nigger might have killed him.

This case makes 2 things clearer...
1) You have no right to complain if some in public engage in illegal, abusive or inconsiderate behaviors. The person is within its right to violently assault you, and you don’t have the right to reasonably defend yourself.

2)The stand your ground law isn’t valid any longer

The niggrification of society (heeled deescalation) will continue. Many white people (even on this forum) will not defend someone who tried his best to oppose it within what is (or was) lawful. Perhaps all niggers should be given handicap permits. It would be fun to look at the chimpouts occurring on and around the handicap parking. Then they could have half the bus with handicap seats in the front too. Restaurants with handicap tables, the waiters on those tables should be preferential hire African-Americans. The handicapped niggers will get the service they deserve, and the waiters will get the tip they deserve. LOL

hoarder

26th August 2019, 06:25 AM

Sure he may be that. Should it matter in this case?

The niggers were not freedom fighters. It is rude, illegal and inconsiderate to park in the handicap spot. In a rational society these types of behaviors are dealt with. Do you park in the handicap space?
So if you’re carrying a gun you have no right to complain? If he hadn’t been carrying the nigger might have killed him.

This case makes 2 things clearer...
1) You have no right to complain if some in public engage in illegal, abusive or inconsiderate behaviors. The person is within its right to violently assault you, and you don’t have the right to reasonably defend yourself.

2)The stand your ground law isn’t valid any longer

The niggrification of society (heeled deescalation) will continue. Many white people (even on this forum) will not defend someone who tried his best to oppose it within what is (or was) lawful. Perhaps all niggers should be given handicap permits. It would be fun to look at the chimpouts occurring on and around the handicap parking. Then they could have half the bus with handicap seats in the front too. Restaurants with handicap tables, the waiters on those tables should be preferential hire African-Americans. The handicapped niggers will get the service they deserve, and the waiters will get the tip they deserve. LOL

The glorification of "victims" is a genuine Jewish idea that we must reject. Jews imposed handicap parking on us because they help establish the concept of "victim status" and demand we bow to victims. Handicap parking laws are sick and perverted. So are a lot of laws. If I were to defend any laws, it would only be the just ones. To me, someone who has authoritarian personality disorder is someone who reveres laws and helps the authorities to impose those laws on others. A person who reveres laws reveres them regardless of whether or not they are just.

Jewboo

26th August 2019, 06:43 AM

If I were to defend any laws, it would only be the just ones. To me, someone who has authoritarian personality disorder is someone who reveres laws and helps the authorities to impose those laws on others. A person who reveres laws reveres them regardless of whether or not they are just.

Oy vey. Hoarder determines what is "just" for us and everyone else. (https://thesaurus.plus/img/synonyms/179/moralizer.png)

:rolleyes:

Horn

26th August 2019, 07:37 AM

Only an asshole with authoritarian personality disorder would pack heat and then go around policing the public. .

This sounds like what happened to Neuro, when he got the moderating position on forum.

Jewboo

26th August 2019, 08:17 AM

I don’t see how complaining about someone not showing basic courtesy is instigating an attack.

Like THIS ? (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1991868/Video-Man-filmed-cleaning-poo-dogs-butt-public-bubbler.html)

:(??

Tumbleweed

26th August 2019, 07:50 PM

Good thing the woman in this video didn't have a concealed carry pistol because if she'd have shot the black bastard she'd be looking at jail time. Always be careful not to get in the way of a nigger and don't shoot them when they attack you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC83CDGPizY

Horn

26th August 2019, 08:01 PM

Like THIS ? (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1991868/Video-Man-filmed-cleaning-poo-dogs-butt-public-bubbler.html)

:(??

Jewboo move if I ever saw one...

Neuro

27th August 2019, 12:27 AM

The glorification of "victims" is a genuine Jewish idea that we must reject. Jews imposed handicap parking on us because they help establish the concept of "victim status" and demand we bow to victims. Handicap parking laws are sick and perverted. So are a lot of laws. If I were to defend any laws, it would only be the just ones. To me, someone who has authoritarian personality disorder is someone who reveres laws and helps the authorities to impose those laws on others. A person who reveres laws reveres them regardless of whether or not they are just.

Well it seems like in your mind Jews are by default behind everything you dislike in life. Obviously they are your superiors and natural rulers then. Well now they have decided that if you have the nerve to comment on what you deem bad behavior among niggers, they have the right to violently assault you, and you don’t have any right to defend yourself against that. So you’ld better hunker down and shut your mouth and let the niggers roam freely. Or start doing something more just...