View Full Version : The Future of Global Capitalism with David Harvey
Horn
17th August 2018, 07:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hgszeNb8wU
Neuro
19th August 2018, 06:24 AM
A neo-comm?
Horn
19th August 2018, 08:14 AM
As far as labels go, these guys also have issue.
I'm not sure if they work hand in hand with global corporate/commune banking monopoly or that their intellect operates in some higher realm, removed by it.
The general "oligarchy" is applied.
osoab
19th August 2018, 10:58 AM
You can't use your own stupidity to claim fraud. Why interview a professor about capitalism. He only spends other people's money.
Horn
19th August 2018, 03:28 PM
Deep Purple said it best, re: the future of global capitalism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqM5L5JQseI
Dogman
19th August 2018, 04:04 PM
Deep Purple said it best, re: the future of global capitalism
nbou
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqM5L5JQseIDam man, I forgot about them, their tunes helped change the world...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OorZcOzNcgE
;D
Thanks Horn..
Real music that was true to the times ,
Again, thanks for triggering memory's.
Horn
19th August 2018, 06:14 PM
Between Statist Republicans yearning for Communist type import tariff
and capitalist golf infomercials on Leftist CNN, it's nice to be able to go back to Deep Purple.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P97r9Ci5Kg
Neuro
20th August 2018, 01:06 AM
Between Statist Republicans yearning for Communist type import tariff
and capitalist golf infomercials on Leftist CNN, it's nice to be able to go back to Deep Purple.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P97r9Ci5Kg
Springtime for Marxism and the dictatorship of the proletariat via democracy. He holds up Soviet Union of 1975 as a marvel of economic success, while the truth is that if Nixon/Ford hadn’t sent over millions of tons of wheat for virtually nothing in “The great grain robbery” in the early 1970’s half the population of Soviet Union would have starved to death. Just like they did in “The Great Leap Forward” in communist China, which was also heralded as a roaring economic success.
I do agree that unchecked capitalism, tend to lead towards fascism, cronyism, cleptocracy and political corruption. It is not in the interest of the capitalists to keep government at a minimum level. But you have pretty much the identical issues within the communist system. But instead of the capitalists controlling all wealth you have the dictatorship of the proletariat controlling it.
I am certain that it is within human nature to be hierarchical. There are three classes of people, some are leaders, some are followers/workers, and then you have a middle class that is in between of professionals, managers, creatives. The only reason the 1% of the 1% of the 1%, the 63 richest people brought up as an example in the video, control more resources than the bottom half of the worlds population, is because of globalism. If they couldn’t unhindered peddle the produce to the world they wouldn’t be able to amass the wealth they did.
Still free market capitalism is the best way of creating wealth in a system, but if the imbalances between the haves and have nots is to great, the system collapses. Needs to get rid of globalism (communists have the same thing but calls it internationalism), divide the world in smaller geographical units (less than nations/countries), restrict the free flow of goods and people over the geographical units. The leaders/upper class of each geographical unit may still be 1000 times richer than the poorest or 100’s of times richer than the workers/professionals, but at least these are the people he sees every day, and thus may feel more impelled to direct some resources to help.
Perhaps the production capacity of wealth in a system that limits free trade between geographical units isn’t as great as one that has unlimited trade, but it would build a system of more fairly distributed wealth, compared to what we have now where the wealthiest possesses millions of times more than the poor. Further globalism is very resource intensive compared to locally produced.
Another thing is governments and their administrations tend to grow exponentially with the size of a country. And with a growing government comes a growing complexity of government, which increases potential for corruption (probably exponentially too), and the reduces the possibility of oversight by the people over the government.
Anyhow all the above will probably happen automatically as the current globalist capitalist cleptocracy crashes because of the systems inherent inequality and corruption. That’s pretty much what happened in Eastern Europe following the fall of communism (even though they haven’t been able to shield themselves completely against globalism). They divided into smaller more ethnically homogenic societies, who are conservative of their culture and heritage, and protectionist of their economy and workers. Probably a good place to go to too weather out the globalist collapse if you can assimilate (I wonder how General of Darkness is doing in Croatia?).
Horn
20th August 2018, 08:19 AM
It is not in the interest of the capitalists to keep government at a minimum level.
There should be only 2 kinds of Capitalists.
Those who welcome competition at any level and those who do not.
The latter needs patentless and more creative ways to be put down by any capitalist competitive support government. No outsourcing to China (unwelcoming competitors) is not viable.
Ofcourse, when any government becomes the main contract/vestor and patent supplier to any capitalist industry, the conflict of interest that ensues at all levels of the economy and any other contract becomes apparent, as is evident currently.
The solution from academia is to cure our current patented government-run monopoly with another patented (Marx TM) government-run monopoly.
Like any Oligarch's philosopher might offer.
Horn
20th August 2018, 08:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsO8R8u0MYk
http://www.tomwbell.com/images/(C)Term&MMCurve.gif
Sonny Bono < true capitalist killer, even looks like Marx.
Cebu_4_2
20th August 2018, 02:17 PM
http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9921&stc=1
Neuro
20th August 2018, 03:17 PM
Another thing, kneeling represents surrendering. Let them surrender, if they prefer not to stand proud. Nothing to be upset about.
osoab
20th August 2018, 03:20 PM
Sonny Bono < true capitalist killer, even looks like Marx.
Hasn't hurt Cher's ticket sales.
Cebu_4_2
20th August 2018, 05:12 PM
Hasn't hurt Cher's ticket sales.
She's still alive?
osoab
20th August 2018, 06:03 PM
She's still alive?
botox and the blood of children have their advantages.
Cebu_4_2
20th August 2018, 06:10 PM
botox and the blood of children have their advantages.
As much as I know I shouldn't look....
Ok shese still purdy.
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Horn
21st August 2018, 11:11 AM
Another thing, kneeling represents surrendering. Let them surrender, if they prefer not to stand proud. Nothing to be upset about.
The upset part typically warrants more unnecessary change than the kneeling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJmc-cI7sGQ
Neuro
25th August 2018, 02:28 AM
The upset part typically warrants more unnecessary change than the kneeling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJmc-cI7sGQ
I guess one could just turn ones back toward the flag, or go and re-arrange ones bag while the national anthem is playing.
Re the video: No invention in Sweden? Perhaps it is a thing of the past... But plenty of innovation came from Swedes like cell phone technology, LCD computer screens, refrigeration tech, monkey wrench, safe dynamite, safety matches, gas powered lighthouses, the propeller, the tetra packs, steel alloys, IKEA.
Lately maybe not so much, some computer games comes to mind.
Horn
25th August 2018, 03:00 PM
maybe its changed 80 years?
The Swedish police used the first official mobile phone in 1946
http://www.tech-faq.com/history-of-cell-phones.html
I'm not sure the exact context, but think the innovation reference was used to describe a lack of reward for it with socialisms(ts). When the opposite is also true in capitalist west. Overcompensation for patent name branding/Trumpism.
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