The Manson cult murder hoax

[Neuro]

It didn’t happen...

http://mileswmathis.com/tate.pdf

“A few readers will say I am just following Mae Brussell's script so far, and Brussell did touch on some of these points above. But this is where I jet past her. I say that Manson was just one more actor, because all the top parts were played by actors. We already know that. Sharon Tate was an actor. Her career started in 1965 with the movie Eye of the Devil, a movie about devil worship and sacrificial murders, where Sharon plays a witch. More recently she had played a vampire in the Fearless Vampire Killers; then she played a slut in the Valley of the Dolls, one who has an abortion, becomes a soft-core porn actress and then kills herself with downers; then she had a bit part in Rosemary's Baby. Curious how all these films have to do with babies, blood, and death. In the Manson murders, she was just continuing a trend. You might say she was typecast. The same can be said for Roman Polanski.☼ He was the director of Fearless Vampire Killers and Rosemary's Baby, and he was one of the leads in the former, becoming a vampire at the end. If the FBI had been looking for someone to direct a Satanic slasher film, they could not have found a more perfect candidate. Does no one but me find that to be a big red flag? The murder takes place in the home of a director of Satanic murder films3, and actors are murdered? No one thought that was suspicious?”

It’s a long pdf 86 pages but as always with Miles Mathis well researched and worth the time.

[PatColo]

Manson was also a regular at CIA's Laurel Canyon pop star factory; apparently a pretty good musician.

I saw a docu a couple years ago making the case the Manson/Tate 'event' was hoaxed; very convincing. Can't find it again! :(

[singular_me]

I would not have accepted this possibility 15 years ago as I had no interest in satanism, but now it makes a LOT of sense

that are the biases and lies that create social narratives

[Amanda]

Thanks for posting. Looked at this a few years ago. Totally agree--another hoax. I think there are a couple of youtubes out there too, showing something about Tate still being alive-I think it had to do with her having a distinctive ear lobe, and then you see that same ear lobe on the woman pretending to be one of Tate's sisters

[Neuro]

Thanks for posting. Looked at this a few years ago. Totally agree--another hoax. I think there are a couple of youtubes out there too, showing something about Tate still being alive-I think it had to do with her having a distinctive ear lobe, and then you see that same ear lobe on the woman pretending to be one of Tate's sisters

I tried to copy paste the photos from the link in the OP, but it doesn’t work with PDFs. So you can go in and look at page 68. I think it is the strongest evidence that Pattie Tate actually is Sharon Tate.

[PatColo]

I don't think I got word that old Charlie died Nov last year, age 83.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Manson

[Neuro]

I don't think I got word that old Charlie died Nov last year, age 83.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Manson

I am pretty sure he didn’t spend any days in a real prison...

Here he is on ”death row” in San Quentin in 1972...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UroaafOhsTg&feature=share

How likely is it that an interview like this would be allowed by prison authorities, and he declined steak and ordered the goon to give it to Mike next door...

[jbeck57143]

Here are some of the photos, and text, from the pdf:

The first one shows Patti/Sharon from about 1992. Here's the the text from the pdf:

"None of the existing pictures or videos of Patti are of a quality where we could see scars or moles. But we do get this clue, left by someone who wants the truth to come out:

That is Patti/Sharon in front of a picture of Sharon, in about 1992. You can see that the resemblance is very close. Most can see that it is the same person, even without being given the clue. Patti/Sharon just wears less make-up than Sharon did. Patti/Sharon didn't even have to change her hair color, even though neither Sharon nor Patti are natural blondes. Patti/Sharon wanted to become a blonde again, and after a certain amount of time, she felt free to do so. She felt secure enough to do whatever she wanted, including going on TV and doing interviews. Unfortunately, she made one mistake. She went on TV with her hair up, and I saw her left ear."

The next 4 photos compare their ears, and show Patti/Sharon from a 1994 interview. Here's the text from the pdf:

"If you go to the interview, notice she tries to keep her right side to the camera. But in a couple of short instances we can see her left ear. You will say that sisters have the same ears, but they don't. Do you have the same ears as your siblings? No. Often, the overall shape may be similar, but things like this are individual traits, not family traits. The shape match all along the outside of the ear in photos one and two is too close to be passed off as coincidence or family.

Notice that Patti/Sharon coughs twice in the 25th anniversary interview, which would have been 1994. This
cough is what allows us to see her left ear, since she turns away from the interviewer to cover her mouth. But what is she saying when she coughs? The first time she says, “I don't think Manson will ever get out of prison (cough).” The second time she says, “He is not a man that will ever be turned loose on free society—he's just too dangerous (cough).” These coughs would be read by any psychologist as a sign of stress. Most would say that just mentioning Manson's name still gives Patti stress. But since this is Sharon, we have a different interpretation. Sharon knows Manson is just another actor like herself, and that—since 1967—he has never been in jail. Like everything else, his jail interviews are fake. He comes into the studio when they need him, that's all (see below). Sharon is coughing to cover up the whopping lie she is telling. Her other lies are minuscule in comparison to that lie.

While you are studying that interview, I encourage you to compare Patti's voice to Sharon's. You can listen to Sharon here, at minute 1:09. Sharon's voice as Patti has become a bit rougher with age, but she has the same pitch and the same pacing and the same inflections. Someone should put a voice analyzer on these videos. You will say that sisters have the same voices, but of course they don't. Your voice is unique to you."

The interview is at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXelFWKaXrI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXelFWKaXrI

[Bigjon]

Another one I would like to look at is good old Bernie Madoff. Last I heard he was in solitary confinement.

Which seems to me like the perfect setup for someone who walks in the front door of prison and out the back door for a waiting ride to Israel and the beach.

[PatColo]

I don't think I got word that old Charlie died Nov last year, age 83.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Manson

this bit is interesting; might wanna look at Star's website(s)

Relationships and alleged child

In 2009, a Los Angeles disk jockey and songwriter named Matthew Roberts released correspondence and other evidence indicating that he might be Manson's biological son. Roberts's biological mother claims to have been a member of the Manson Family who left in mid-1967 after being raped by Manson; she returned to her parents' home to complete the pregnancy, gave birth on March 22, 1968, and put Roberts up for adoption. Manson himself stated that he "could" be the father, acknowledging the biological mother and a sexual relationship with her during 1967, nearly two years before the Family began its murderous phase.[67]
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Manson#cite_note-67)
In 2014, it was announced that the imprisoned Manson was engaged to 26-year-old Afton Elaine "Star" Burton and had obtained a marriage license on November 7.[68] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Manson#cite_note-68) Manson personally dubbed Burton with the name "Star". She had been visiting Manson in prison for at least nine years, and maintained several websites that proclaimed his innocence.[69] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Manson#cite_note-69) The wedding license expired on February 5, 2015, without a marriage ceremony taking place.[70] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Manson#cite_note-post-70) It was later reported, according to journalist Daniel Simone, the wedding was cancelled after it was discovered Burton only wanted to marry Manson so she and a friend, Craig "Gray Wolf" Hammond, could use his corpse as a tourist attraction after his death.[70] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Manson#cite_note-post-70)[71] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Manson#cite_note-independent_corpse-71) According to Simone, Manson believed he would never die, and may simply have used the possibility of marriage as a way to encourage Burton and Hammond to continue visiting him and bringing him gifts. Together with co-author Heidi Jordan Ley, and with the assistance of some of Manson's fellow prisoners, Simone wrote a book about Manson and was seeking a publisher for it. Burton said on her web site that the reason the marriage did not take place is merely logistical. Manson was suffering from an infection and had been in a prison medical facility for two months, and could not receive visitors. She said she still hoped the marriage license would be renewed and the marriage would take place.[70] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Manson#cite_note-post-70)

[Neuro]

“they” are the same...
http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9940&d=1537897578

“Them” ear anomaly is the same...
http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9941&d=1537897588

Now I wonder if Patti-Sharon died in 2000 at age 43-58, or if she only “died”, perhaps because it started becoming too obvious that Sharon was looking to old at 58 for being Patti at 43. It was becoming too hard to maintain appearances post menopause.